

School of War
The Free Press
In School of War, CBS News National Security Analyst and Free Press columnist Aaron MacLean sits down with secretaries of state, top military historians, war planners, and key political decision-makers to help understand the lessons of war.
Tune in as School of War takes you to the front lines.
Aaron MacLean is a senior fellow at Hudson Institute. He has worked as a foreign policy advisor and legislative director to Sen. Tom Cotton of Arkansas and spent seven years in the U.S. Marine Corps.
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Tune in as School of War takes you to the front lines.
Aaron MacLean is a senior fellow at Hudson Institute. He has worked as a foreign policy advisor and legislative director to Sen. Tom Cotton of Arkansas and spent seven years in the U.S. Marine Corps.
Visit our Substack for episode transcripts
Follow along on Instagram
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Nov 25, 2025 • 48min
Ep 251: John Lee on Ukraine, Peace, and What China Wants
John Lee, a senior fellow at the Hudson Institute and former Australian national security advisor, dives into the strategic implications of Ukraine's war for the Indo-Pacific. He discusses the challenges of negotiating peace, analyzing the controversial 28-point plan. Lee connects the dots between the Ukraine conflict and China, arguing that it serves as a proxy for Chinese interests. He also explores nuclear deterrence, the importance of NATO concessions, and Japan's evolving stance on regional security, revealing the broader geopolitical stakes at play.

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Nov 21, 2025 • 1h 6min
Ep 250: Jeremy Armstrong on Ancient Rome’s Myths and Warfare
Jeremy Armstrong, a Professor of Classics & Ancient History at the University of Auckland and author of Children of Mars, delves into the fascinating history of early Rome. He explores the clan-based military structure and the personal nature of warfare, revealing how myths like those of Aeneas and Romulus shaped Roman identity and served political purposes. Armstrong emphasizes the significance of early republic transitions and the impact of trauma from events like the sack of Rome, illustrating the complex foundations of imperial ambitions in Rome's development.

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Nov 18, 2025 • 50min
Ep 249: Mick Ryan on the Ukrainian Way of War
Major General Mick Ryan, a retired Australian Army leader and military expert with recent experience in Ukraine, dives into the complexities of the ongoing war. He discusses the tactical innovations employed by both Ukraine and Russia, including the critical role of drones. Ryan explains how the Ukrainian military adapts to Russian tactics while reflecting on historical patterns from World War I. He also addresses the challenges of manpower, the industrial capacities of both nations, and the strategic thinking guiding Ukraine under President Zelensky.

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Nov 14, 2025 • 1h 3min
Ep 248: Marc Milner on D-Day and the US-UK Battle for Hegemony
Marc Milner, Emeritus Professor of History and author specializing in WWII, shares intriguing insights on the Anglo-American rivalry during the war. He delves into how 1917 shaped political tensions and the ambivalence of American attitudes toward Nazi fascism. The discussion unfolds around FDR's strategic decisions at the Tehran Conference and the delay of the Western second front. Milner also addresses the complexities behind Allied choices and how D-Day symbolized a shift in global power dynamics, revealing the intricate balance of imperial politics.

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Nov 11, 2025 • 53min
Ep 247: Nicholas Wright on the Brain Science of War
Nicholas Wright, a neuroscientist and author of 'Warhead,' delves into how neuroscience shapes wartime behavior. He discusses the brain’s architecture relevant to military tactics and the importance of mental models. The conversation covers enhancing military training through AI and realistic simulations, and how understanding fear can explain historical events like the fall of France in 1940. Wright also explores the relationship between AI and human cognition, emphasizing how technology will influence our decision-making and identity.

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Nov 10, 2025 • 14min
Ep 246: Veterans Day Special — Remembering Angus MacLean
Host Aaron MacLean honors his father, World War II and Vietnam veteran Angus MacLean. He shares powerful reflections on wartime photos, battlefield valor, and family legacy. Tales of combat on Monte Rotondo and Anzio highlight Angus's bravery and promotions. Aaron recounts formative lessons from his father's military experiences and addresses the impact of trauma and denial. The tribute emphasizes family connections, survival, and the values passed down to future generations.

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Nov 7, 2025 • 52min
Ep 245: Edward Luce on Zbigniew Brzezinski’s Twentieth Century
Edward Luce, U.S. national editor at the Financial Times and author of 'ZBIG', dives into the life of Zbigniew Brzezinski, a pivotal figure during the Cold War. He explores Brzezinski's profound influence on Carter's foreign policy and contrasts his strategic vision with Kissinger's. Luce shares insights on how WWII shaped Brzezinski's worldview, his role in the Vietnam War, and the significance of human rights in foreign policy. The conversation also touches on Brzezinski's legacy and warnings in a post-Cold War world.

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Nov 4, 2025 • 58min
Ep 244: Oren Cass on a Strategy of Reciprocity
Oren Cass, founder and chief economist of American Compass, discusses his insights on U.S. strategic policy towards China. He explores the flawed assumptions that shaped American views post-Cold War, advocating for a strategy of reciprocity in alliances and trade. Cass highlights the importance of recognizing spheres of influence and argues for selective economic decoupling to safeguard critical supply chains. He also addresses how a reciprocity-based approach could redefine U.S. partnerships, presenting a nuanced view on the future of global alliances.

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Oct 31, 2025 • 52min
Ep 243: Alexander Mikaberidze on Russia’s Failed Battle with Turkey… in 1809
Alexander Mikaberidze, a history professor and Napoleonic scholar, explores the strategic blunders of the Russo-Ottoman War, particularly the disastrous siege of Brăila in 1809. He discusses the importance of siege warfare alongside decisive battles and contrasts Russian and Ottoman military strategies. Mikaberidze delves into Kutuzov’s evolution as a commander, highlighting his shift from aggressive tactics to a more cautious approach. He also examines lessons on military culture, accountability, and adaptation drawn from the campaign's failures.

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Oct 28, 2025 • 42min
Ep 243: Joshua S. Treviño—Is Trump After Regime Change in Venezuela?
Joshua S. Treviño, Chief Transformation Officer at the Texas Public Policy Foundation, dives into the complexities of U.S. military strategy in Venezuela. He unpacks the state-cartel synthesis, shedding light on how drug cartels influence governance. Treviño discusses the legal justifications for military strikes and whether regime change is a goal. With insights on the Venezuelan opposition's readiness and Colombia's relationship with the U.S., he highlights the broader implications of military action in the region and the domestic impact of cartel integration.


