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This is just a preview of our Patreon exclusive bonus episode.You can hear the episode in its entirety by becoming a member at: https://www.patreon.com/indoctrination In this special bonus episode, Rachel shares her thoughts on the "Twin Flames Universe" cult and its leaders Jeff and Shaleia. After becoming aware of this strange online-based group around 2019 she received several disturbing reports to her therapy practice by former and current members and their concerned families. Throughout this talk, Rachel outlines the many red flags and dangerous ideologies of the group explaining how harmful their ideas can be for devotees. She goes on to analyze how the group's survivors have been perceived by the media and offers a more insightful perspective on how they should be represented in a more sensitive and accurate light. Watch the trailer for Escaping Twin Flames here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VePkIq4_q2k Watch the trailer for Desperately Seeking Soulmate here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nt-zr-R6cw Listen to Rachel's interview with Wonderey's Twin Flames podcast here: https://youtu.be/pL2mWHAPJbQ?si=ZA7t0xXAplsW3f8r Thanks to all of our Patreon supporters for making this episode possible! Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

David Hayward AKA NakedPastor is a former pastor turned artist and author whose work encourages seeking one's authentic self, religious deconstruction, and freedom of thought. He holds a Masters degree in Theological Studies, as well as Diplomas in Religious Studies and Ministry. David resides in Eastern Coastal Canada where the natural surroundings have helped him to find inner peace within the natural world as he pursues his art full time which he has done for the past decade. The idea of NakedPastor has since grown into a diverse global community of independent thinkers who support each other on their journey to personal spiritual freedom. Committed to truth, authenticity, and understanding, he supports LGBTQ+ people and groups, BIPOC, and women artists, and he encourages his fans to do the same. David is probably best known for his cartoons which in their powerful simplicity speak louder than words and go straight to the heart. Through these cartoons, he challenges problematic norms in religious spaces and life in general. They inspire, provoke, and start difficult conversations. In this thoughtful and revealing conversation, David shares some of the deeply personal insights that inform his artwork. Together he and Rachel explore what healthy spiritual seeking looks like and point out the ways in which people often get stuck. Throughout the discussion, Rachel and David offer advice on personal and philosophical growth from their respective experiences and traditions. Before You Go: Rachel emphasizes the importance of self-expression and explains how high-control organizations hinder individual assertion to ensure conformity among members. You can find David's cartoons, art, books, and newsletter on his website, http://www.nakedpastor.com David is offering a 10% discount to our listeners! Just use the discount code PODCAST at checkout. Check out his work on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/nakedpastor/ All of Rachel's free informational PDF documents are available here: www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/pdf.html All of Rachel's video lectures are available for purchase here: https://rachelbernsteintherapy.com/videos.html To help support the show monthly and get bonus episodes, shirts, and tote bags, please visit: www.patreon.com/indoctrination Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link: www.paypal.me/indoctrination Connect with us on Social Media: Twitter: twitter.com/_indoctrination Facebook: www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast Tik Tok: www.tiktok.com/@indoctrinationpodcast Instagram: www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast/ YouTube: www.youtube.com/rachelbernsteinlmft You can always help the show for free by leaving a rating on Spotify or a review on Apple/ iTunes. It really helps the visibility of the show Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

Katherine Spearing is a Certified Trauma Recovery Coach and the founder of “Tears of Eden”, a nonprofit supporting survivors of Spiritual Abuse, where she hosts its' affiliate podcast, “Uncertain.” Katherine is also the host of the “Trauma & Pop Culture” podcast. As a writer, Katherine has penned several nonfiction articles and is also the author of the historical romantic comedy, “Hartford”, a novel that challenges gender roles in a patriarchal society. It’s a story that Katherine says should appeal especially to fans of Jane Austen. She has been a guest on a number of podcasts, and a guest speaker at multiple events. In this honest and revealing conversation, Katherine opens up to Rachel about growing up in the "stay-at-home daughter" movement. She details her early skepticism of the patriarchal teachings she learned as a child and explains how she started to plot her escape from the toxic culture of high-control religion. Before You Go: Rachel offers insights into how patriarchal Christian teachings can have long-term negative impacts on members of all genders. She goes on to explain how to safely incorporate teachings from the Bible that may still resonate with faithful survivors after leaving behind a toxic church culture. You can find more info on Katherine and her work at: www.katherinespearing.com All of Rachel's free informational PDF documents are available here: www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/pdf.html All of Rachel's video lectures are available for purchase here: www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/webinar.html To help support the show monthly and get bonus episodes, shirts, and tote bags, please visit: www.patreon.com/indoctrination Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link: www.paypal.me/indoctrination Connect with us on Social Media: Twitter: twitter.com/_indoctrination Facebook: www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast Tik Tok: www.tiktok.com/@indoctrinationpodcast Instagram: www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast/ YouTube: www.youtube.com/rachelbernsteinlmft You can always help the show for free by leaving a rating on Spotify or a review on Apple/ iTunes. It really helps the visibility of the show Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

This is just a preview of our Patreon exclusive bonus episode. You can hear the full episode by becoming a member at: www.patron.com/indoctrination Jolie Holland is a world-renowned Los Angeles-based artist who has forged a timeless, captivating musical legacy mining the depths of her, at times harrowing, life experiences. Her fearless creative choices are rooted in honesty and presence. She is a co-founder of the musical trio The Be Good Tanyas and has been featured on Bob Dylan's "Theme Time Radio Hour" Jolie was raised as a fourth-generation Jehovah's Witness, and her music inherently carries emotional themes inextricable from her cult experience. These concepts of cult dynamics are subtly woven throughout her newly released album Haunted Mountain, including on the mesmerizing title track, a duet with Buck Meek, guitarist for the band Big Thief. In this very special episode, Jolie breaks down the emotional themes of her new record and explains how the cultic dynamics she sees in the world inform her perspective and work. She outlines the patriarchal and harmful teachings she experienced herself being raised as a Jehovah's Witness, and how the aftereffects permeate her creative expression. Haunted Mountain is available now on all streaming platforms and on CD & vinyl at: www.joliehollandmusic.com Thanks to all of our Patreon supporters for making this episode possible! Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

Jolie Holland is a world-renowned Los Angeles-based artist who has forged a timeless, captivating musical legacy mining the depths of her, at times harrowing, life experiences. Her fearless creative choices are rooted in honesty and presence. She is a co-founder of the musical trio The Be Good Tanyas and has been featured on Bob Dylan's "Theme Time Radio Hour" Jolie was raised as a fourth-generation Jehovah's Witness, and her music inherently carries emotional themes inextricable from her cult experience. These concepts of cult dynamics are subtly woven throughout her newly released album Haunted Mountain, including on the mesmerizing title track, a duet with Buck Meek, guitarist for the band Big Thief. In this unique and creativity-centered conversation, Jolie details how her childhood in a high-control group informed her musical output, explaining how music as a tool for communication can be a path to freedom of expression even while under the grip of authoritarian religion. Rachel and Jolie go on to discuss the lasting impacts of patriarchal ideology, explaining how its insidious nature can manifest personally and socially. Before You Go: Rachel expands on the idea that high-control groups often encourage feelings of self-loathing in their followers. She explains the devastating impacts that can result from these types of harmful teachings. Haunted Mountain is available now on all streaming platforms and on CD & vinyl at: www.joliehollandmusic.com All of Rachel's free informational PDF documents are available here: www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/pdf.html All of Rachel's video lectures are available for purchase here: www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/webinar.html To help support the show monthly and get bonus episodes, shirts, and tote bags, please visit: www.patreon.com/indoctrination Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link: www.paypal.me/indoctrination Connect with us on Social Media: Twitter: twitter.com/_indoctrination Facebook: www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast Tik Tok: www.tiktok.com/@indoctrinationpodcast Instagram: www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast/ YouTube: www.youtube.com/rachelbernsteinlmft You can always help the show for free by leaving a rating on Spotify or a review on Apple/ iTunes. It really helps the visibility of the show Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

Erin Burchwell is a Columbus, Ohio-based florist, designer and illustrator. She grew up as a faculty kid on the campus of Bob Jones University, an extremely conservative Christian college known for its strict rules and controversial beliefs. In 2014, Erin interviewed with GRACE, an independent ombudsman who reviewed the University’s mishandling of sexual assault reports. She and others chose to break their anonymity in the report when the school fired the GRACE team. Erin manages her own floral business specializing in events, décor and commissioned murals. Some of her work was recently featured online by Architectural Digest this year. She has illustrated three children’s picture books about Ohio and enjoys visiting schools and teaching students about publishing. Erin’s commitments extend well beyond her business. She is a dedicated volunteer teacher and fundraiser for many organizations including nursing homes, women’s prisons, after-school programs, and children’s museums. She lives with her husband, Jason, her daughter Gracie, and two dogs, Fred and Mose. In this engaging and important conversation, Erin details her experience as a "Faculty Kid" growing up on the grounds of the notorious Bob Jones University. She explains how the patriarchal and authoritarian culture of the organization was even more intense for the children of staff members. Erin goes on to share with Rachel how her own personal experiences motivated her to participate in the third-party investigation that came to be known as the GRACE report. Before You Go: Rachel explains how the unrealistic expectations and labor exploitation of the administration became easier to recognize as harmful after it was revealed that serious abuse was regularly covered up. Follow Erin on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/erin_burchwell/?hl=en Follow her shop at: https://www.instagram.com/thebloomshoppe/?hl=en All of Rachel's free informational PDF documents are available here: www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/pdf.html All of Rachel's video lectures are available for purchase here: www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/webinar.html To help support the show monthly and get bonus episodes, shirts, and tote bags, please visit: www.patreon.com/indoctrination Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link: www.paypal.me/indoctrination Connect with us on Social Media: Twitter: twitter.com/_indoctrination Facebook: www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast Tik Tok: www.tiktok.com/@indoctrinationpodcast Instagram: www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast/ YouTube: www.youtube.com/rachelbernsteinlmft You can always help the show for free by leaving a rating on Spotify or a review on Apple/ iTunes. It really helps the visibility of the show Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

This is just a preview of our Patreon exclusive bonus episode. You can hear the episode in full at: https://www.patreon.com/indoctrination In the second part of this unique two-part bonus episode, Rachel continues to provide further insight from her years of experience as a marriage and family therapist to explain the defining characteristics of trustworthiness in a variety of relationships and social settings. She points out the often subtle and nuanced details you should look out for when assessing safe and trustworthy relationships whether it's familial, plutonic, romantic, or even in the workplace. Thanks to our Patreon supporters for making this episode possible! Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

Beth McNamara is a Los Angeles-based television and documentary producer with over 25 years of experience in content development and production of more than 100 hours of entertainment garnering her two Emmy Nominations. Beth co-produced the 2018 Sundance documentary feature: INVENTING TOMORROW which won multiple awards including a 2019 Peabody. Currently, Beth is the Creator and Executive Producer of the multi-season investigative podcast: MURDER AT RYAN’S RUN which does a 50-year deep dive into the Philadelphia-based group known as MOVE. The indie podcast features exclusive insider sources that expose MOVE to be a destructive and deceptive cult that controlled, abused, and terrorized them. In addition to working on a book about MOVE, Beth is also developing other stories as documentary films, podcast series, television series, and movies. In this revelatory and rare interview with journalist Beth McNamara, you'll hear Beth reveal behind-the-scenes details from her investigation into the cult dynamics of the supposed Black Liberation group MOVE. Throughout the discussion, Rachel and Beth offer their insights into the harm neglectful parents and unofficial guardians needlessly inflict on children in cultic groups. They go on to discuss how MOVE hijacked the narrative about their group and avoided any legal consequences from their child endangerment and criminal intimidation. Before You Go: Rachel breaks down the manipulation inherent in calling the child victims of the horrific MOVE bombing "Revolutionary Martyrs" You can find more info about Beth and her podcast at: https://www.murderatryansrun.com/ All of Rachel's free informational PDF documents are available here: www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/pdf.html All of Rachel's video lectures are available for purchase here: www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/webinar.html To help support the show monthly and get bonus episodes, shirts, and tote bags, please visit: www.patreon.com/indoctrination Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link: www.paypal.me/indoctrination Connect with us on Social Media: Twitter: twitter.com/_indoctrination Facebook: www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast Tik Tok: www.tiktok.com/@indoctrinationpodcast Instagram: www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast/ YouTube: www.youtube.com/rachelbernsteinlmft You can always help the show for free by leaving a rating on Spotify or a review on Apple/ iTunes. It really helps the visibility of the show Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

Mike Rothschild is a journalist, researcher, expert witness, and debunker of conspiracy theories and fringe beliefs. Over the last decade, Mike has written extensively about politics, history, and pop culture. In particular, Mike is an expert on the QAnon conspiracy theory, tracing its evolution from a few 4chan posts to a massive, worldwide movement that draws on centuries of conspiracy theories and scams to induct its believers into a violent mythology. Mike is the author of the recently released book "Jewish Space Lasers: The Rothschilds and 200 Years of Conspiracy Theories,” The book debunks the myths of the Rothschild banking family He is also the author of “The Storm is Upon Us: How QAnon Became a Movement, Cult, and Conspiracy Theory of Everything,” and “The World’s Worst Conspiracies.” Mike has also written hundreds of stories for the Daily Dot, and other outlets. In addition to his work as an author, Mike has served as an expert witness in several legal cases related to conspiracy theories, has guest lectured at numerous colleges and conferences, and testified to Congress in June 2022 on the dangers of election-related disinformation. He has been interviewed by the New York Times, Washington Post, CNN, MSNBC, NPR, PBS, and hundreds of other news outlets and podcasts. In this highly informative and nuanced discussion, Rachel and Mike analyze the root causes of conspiracism from the vantage point of their respective fields of expertise. Throughout the conversation, they provide insights into the isolation and insecurities that lure people into extreme beliefs and examine the sunk costs that keep them entangled in deception. Before you go: Rachel further details the intoxication of exclusive knowledge and warns of its potentially dangerous consequences. You can find more info on Mike and his work at: https://themikerothschild.com/ His latest book Jewish Space Lasers: The Rothschilds and 200 Years of Conspiracy Theories is available here: https://bookshop.org/p/books/jewish-space-lasers-the-rothschilds-and-200-years-of-conspiracy-theories-from-waterloo-to-weather-w-eapons-mike-rothschild/19567587?ean=9781685890643 All of Rachel's free informational PDF documents are available here: www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/pdf.html All of Rachel's video lectures are available for purchase here: www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/webinar.html To help support the show monthly and get bonus episodes, shirts, and tote bags, please visit: www.patreon.com/indoctrination Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link: www.paypal.me/indoctrination Connect with us on Social Media: Twitter: twitter.com/_indoctrination Facebook: www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast Tik Tok: www.tiktok.com/@indoctrinationpodcast Instagram: www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast/ YouTube: www.youtube.com/rachelbernsteinlmft You can always help the show for free by leaving a rating on Spotify or a review on Apple/ iTunes. It really helps the visibility of the show Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

This is just a preview of our Patreon exclusive bonus episodes. You can hear the entire episode by becoming a member at: https://www.patreon.com/indoctrination In the first half of this unique two-part bonus episode, Rachel provides insight from her years of experience as a marriage and family therapist to explain the defining characteristics of trustworthiness in a variety of relationships and social settings. She outlines the underlying concepts of relational trust explaining how surrounding yourself with trustworthy people increases your capacity for living in freedom. Rachel goes on to explain how interpersonal betrayal can scar people emotionally and potentially lead to unhealthy and long-term paranoia in relationships. Thanks to our Patreon supporters for making this episode possible! Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands