Money Life with Chuck Jaffe

Brian Allen, chief investment officer at CS McKee, says "The market has done a lot of the easing work to launch the easing campaign in 2024," meaning that the Federal Reserve will not feel much pressure to cut rates more than four times this year. He says there's no pressure for more due to the bond market rallying over the last few months while the stock market was moving to all-time highs; that also raised valuations to where investors should lower their return expectations for both stocks and bonds this year. Also on the show, Jenny Naughton, executive vice president for Chubb Personal Risk Services, about the firm's recent study showing that wealthy Americans consider extreme weather -- and the damage it could do --as the biggest threats to their wealth this year, Roxanna Islam, head of sector and industry research at VettaFi, sizes up the ETFs that invest in closed-end funds, and William Smead of the Smead Value fund talks stocks in the Market Call.

Brett Ewing, chief market strategist at First Franklin Financial Services, says that while he expects large-cap stocks -- led by the Magnificent Seven names -- to have a positive year that could potentially see returns in the 8 to 9 percent range, the market has set up for smaller companies to really pay off. He says that small-and mid-cap stocks are trading at reasonable levels, giving them the potential to gain 15 to 25 percent in 2024. Meanwhile, Todd Rosenbluth is looking to stick with large-cap stocks -- but finding a cheaper way to own them while favoring value stocks -- as he picks a new large-cap index-based fund from Goldman Sachs as his ETF of the Week. Michael Young, director of education and outreach at the Sustainable Investment Forum, gives his outlook for ESG investing -- and for the controversies and politicization of funds with environmental, social and governance agendas -- in the year ahead, before Todd Jones, chief investment officer at Gratus Capital makes his debut in the Market Call talking stocks.

Kevin Mahn, president and chief investment officer at Hennion & Walsh, says that he expects interest rates, yields and inflation to all be lower over the next three years, and that the economy will start growing more robustly once the rate cuts start. That is setting up a strong three-year run for stocks and bonds, one that Mahn thinks most investors should intuitively be expecting and be comfortable with. Stanford University professor Anat Admati, co-author of "The Bankers' New Clothes: What's Wrong with Banking and What to Do about It," discusses how the collapse of Silicon Valley Bank and other troubles that occurred in 2023 are not really over, and why the system that has immunized banks from most troubles has also ensured that troubles will keep happening. Plus, in the Market Call, Craig Sarembock, wealth adviser at Bartlett Wealth Management, talks about finding growth stocks at reasonable prices.

Jeff Weniger, head of equity strategy at WisdomTree Asset Management, says that the "rip-roaring rally" that started in late October on account of declining interest rates, and it slowed in January but now "Boom, suddenly you're back off to the races" with the stock market at new highs and the Standard & Poor's 500 now eyeing 5000. Weniger notes that there are plenty of concerns for the rally, and he notes that a downturn could test the classic 60-40 portfolio, where he thinks investors may be disappointed with how fixed income does its job of providing portfolio protection. Talking technicals, Lawrence McMillan of McMillan Analysis says he is staying bullish, but he is on alert for changes because the current rally feels similar to January 2018 or 2020, both years that had solid starts only to turn ugly in February and March. Plus, Ronan McMahon discusses a study from International Living Magazine showing what countries people want to move to for their retirement years and what the most popular destinations have in common, and Jay Kaplan, portfolio manager of the Royce Small Cap Value fund, talks in the Market Call about being a business-valuation investor.

Bryan Shipley, co-chief executive/chief investment officer at Arnerich Massena, says that yields are more attractive overseas and there is the emergence of growth internationally, but domestic markets have deserved their higher valuation. Still, when he sees a struggle between domestic and international markets, it's usually a sign of leadership changing, which is one reason why he's keeping clients in foreign investments; it's part of a strategy where he recommends investors "choose their own reality," deciding where they want to participate among many opportunities and stories around the market. Ted Rossman, senior industry analyst at Bankrate.com, discusses the site's latest survey, which shows that 56 million credit cardholders have been revolving their debt on plastic for at least a year. David Trainer, founder and president at New Constructs revisits one of the original meme stocks and discusses why he thinks its picture is growing very dark, and hedge fund manager Steven Grey of Grey Value Management talks about "valuation investing" in the Market Call.

Zach Jonson, chief investment officer at Stack Financial Management, says that the top-heavy nature of the stock market -- with so few stocks driving the bulk of returns in 2023 -- is going to make it hard for the standard & Poor's 500 index to gain much ground this year, though he notes that as investors have been chasing the same small group of stocks in a few sectors, other "high quality parts of the market have become notably more attractive." He compared it to the tech bubble of the late 1990s -- "the last time you had concentration anywhere close to what you have now" -- where certain sectors that lagged while the bubble was inflating became bargains. As a result, Jonson suggested investors invest in the defensive areas that the market has left behind over the last year. Also on the show, Cheryl Pate, manager of the Angel Oak Financial Strategies Income Term Trust, gives her outlook for the banking sector this year and talks about the importance of focusing on credit quality as the rate cycle progresses, veteran financial journalist Allan Sloan discusses the lasting investment lessons from Charlie Munger -- Warren Buffett's right-hand man -- and Paul Daneshrad talks about his new book, "Money & Morons: How To Build Wealth And Protect Yourself From The Great Conflux."

Corin Frost, managing director at Helios Quantitative Research, says that while economic indicators are largely strong and positive, the stock market is not as connected to wave, largely because the Magnificent Seven stocks have driven so much performance that their ability to continue with good relative performance will go a long way to determining the year in the market, regardless of economic growth numbers. Todd Rosenbluth, director of research at VettaFi, picks his favorite of the brand new spot Bitcoin funds as the ETF of the Week and explains why his pick stands out from the crowd of new funds. Plus, Chuck answers a listener's question about Cathie Wood and the ARK Funds and discusses the feast-and-famine nature of their performance, and Josh West, portfolio manager at Buffalo Mid Cap, talks growth investing in the Market Call.

Technical analyst Michael Sincere of Michael Sincere's Long-Term Trader sees the market as being ready to struggle in 2024, but he notes that trends in earnings will do the most to determine how it turns out, and if any of the Magnificent Seven stocks -- which spearheaded the market's dramatic gains in 2023 -- should stumble, he forecasts a major market decline. Chuck Mitchell of The Conference Board discusses the group's "C-Suite Outlook for 2024," which showed that top executives both domestically and abroad are scared of inflation and a potential recession, but most say they have not prepared for those potential outcomes yet. Plus, financial adviser Christopher Manske discusses his new book, "Outsmart the Money Magicians: Maximize Your Net Worth by Seeing Through the Most Powerful Illusions Performed by Wall Street and The IRS" and, in the Market Call, Kevin Rendino, chief executive officer at 180 Degree Capital, discusses value investing and activist management in small- and micro-cap investing.

Mark Fleming, chief economist at First American, expects the housing market to be better in 2024, and while it won't be as hot as it was during the pandemic nor as cold as it was after that run, "it's not quite right yet either, just better." He says the Federal Reserve's actions -- and he expects three or four rate cuts this year -- will determine just how strong the economy and the housing market are this year. Still, he thinks a downturn for the broad economy could actually help the real estate market. Bryan Armour, director of passive strategies research at Morningstar, discusses last week's Securities and Exchange Commission approval of spot bitcoin ETFs, and how investors should size up the resulting boom of new cryptocurrency funds. In the Market Call, Michael Campagna, senior investment analyst at Moerus Capital Management talks about global deep-value investing.

Joseph Brusuelas, chief economist at RSM, says that the market "is a bit out over its skis" in terms of when the Federal Reserve will start cutting interest rates and how many cuts will happen in 2024, but that may create volatility and determine whether there is another rally in the current cycle. Brusuelas says the economy is in the middle of a soft landing and keeps looking strong, which should mute or limit just how much slowing happens moving forward. Jeffrey Bierman, founder of The QuantGuy.com and chief market technician at TheoTrade.com, says the market is overextended and due for a "garden variety 10 percent correction," but there is room for investors to hunt and peck for opportunities. Also on the show, Aaron Filbeck of the Chartered Alternative Investment Analyst Association says that it's naive for investors to lump a wide range of mainstream investment options under the label of "alternative." Plus, Justin Carbonneau of Validea.com talks about the expert methodologies that are working the best in current conditions and how to build the ideas of money-management legends into your portfolio.