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Amundi
Welcome to Outerblue, a podcast channel to guide professional investors on their financial journey
Four series are available:
Outerblue Convictions: Our monthly market analysis and investment convictions
This series presents our latest analysis of the markets, asset allocation trends and our investment convictions.
Each month, listen to Monica Defend, Head of Amundi Institute, discuss Amundi’s views with Swaha Pattanaik, your host on this podcast.
Outerblue Conversations: Latest insights and discussion on a variety of investment topics
This series discusses topical developments in the world of investment. Listen to expert views on the economic and geopolitical landscape, discover the insights, implications, and analysis as well as market views and asset allocation recommendations.
Outerblue Responsible investment: Responsible investing themes shaping the investment landscape
This podcast explores and explains the latest responsible investment themes.
Listen to experts from Amundi’s responsible investment teams share their insights on the latest environmental trends investors should be watching
Outerblue Talks Research: knowledge sharing on financial research
This podcast takes a closer look at current financial research topics and themes.
Join Swaha Pattanaik, Head of publishing and digital strategy, to learn more about the latest research, the findings and implications from Amundi’s research experts.
Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.
Four series are available:
Outerblue Convictions: Our monthly market analysis and investment convictions
This series presents our latest analysis of the markets, asset allocation trends and our investment convictions.
Each month, listen to Monica Defend, Head of Amundi Institute, discuss Amundi’s views with Swaha Pattanaik, your host on this podcast.
Outerblue Conversations: Latest insights and discussion on a variety of investment topics
This series discusses topical developments in the world of investment. Listen to expert views on the economic and geopolitical landscape, discover the insights, implications, and analysis as well as market views and asset allocation recommendations.
Outerblue Responsible investment: Responsible investing themes shaping the investment landscape
This podcast explores and explains the latest responsible investment themes.
Listen to experts from Amundi’s responsible investment teams share their insights on the latest environmental trends investors should be watching
Outerblue Talks Research: knowledge sharing on financial research
This podcast takes a closer look at current financial research topics and themes.
Join Swaha Pattanaik, Head of publishing and digital strategy, to learn more about the latest research, the findings and implications from Amundi’s research experts.
Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.
Episodes
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Apr 28, 2026 • 17min
Geopolitical friction and the new market reality - Market Analysis and Investment Views by Outerblue Convictions
Market Analysis and Investment Views by Outerblue ConvictionsMarkets have remained surprisingly resilient despite a fast-moving news cycle, rising geopolitical tensions and growing uncertainty around the outlook for growth and inflation. In this episode of Outerblue Convictions, host Swaha Pattanaik speaks with Monica Defend, Head of the Amundi Investment Institute, following the IMF spring meetings in Washington to discuss the structural shifts now shaping markets and what they mean for investors.They examine the implications of a more fragile global backdrop, including the impact of geopolitical risk on oil prices, inflation persistence and central bank policy. Monica shares why the ECB and the Fed may need to keep rates higher for longer, while the Bank of Japan remains an exception. They also explore what markets may be underestimating, from the risk of a new geopolitical regime, to the potential for a disorderly repricing of US assets.The discussion continues with a look at fixed income, equities, gold and the US dollar, as well as the importance of selectivity, quality and diversification in portfolios. With markets still pricing in optimism despite stretched valuations and persistent uncertainty, Monica explains why investment views may need to extend beyond traditional assumptions and prepare for a more demanding investment environment.Concise, timely and highly relevant, this episode offers valuable insight for investors and asset allocators looking to understand the key macroeconomic, geopolitical and market themes shaping the second half of the year. Tune in for expert perspectives on asset allocation, central bank policy and the role of diversification in a changing world.Thank you for listening to the latest Market Analysis and Investment Views, read our latest articles on the Amundi Research Center: https://research-center.amundi.com/ Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

Mar 24, 2026 • 14min
Iran conflict: A temporary shock or a more persistent shift? Global Investment Views by Outerblue Convictions
The war in Iran has shaken markets and is threatening the stability of the global economy. As energy prices surge and the news flow comes thick and fast, this month’s host, Silvia Di Silvio, speaks to Monica Defend, Head of the Amundi Investment Institute, to hear her thinking on the crisis and how it is changing Amundi's investment views. They take a closer look at what the war means for inflation, both in the near and longer-term, and when a temporary supply shock might turn into a more permanent change to the economic regime. They also consider the potential reactions from central banks as policymakers try to manage this complex environment of higher inflation, due to energy prices, combined with weaker growth. The edition continues with a focus on the US dollar, which has been faring relatively well in the current crisis. Do we expect this to be the end of the USD downward trajectory? Finally, we wrap up with a review of how these developments are impacting our asset allocation and portfolio construction views and the importance of smarter, multi-layered diversification in building resilient portfolios.Concise, insightful and timely, this episode is essential listening for investors and asset allocators seeking a clear, expert take on macro-economic signals and monetary policy moves. Tune in for practical perspectives, investment views and the themes that will shape portfolios in the short and medium-term. To learn more, read our latest articles on the Amundi Research Center: https://research-center.amundi.com/ Topics covered: Energy crisis, conflict, Iran, inflation, monetary policy, investment views, asset allocation, risk, economy, geopolitics, central banks, Federal Reserve, markets, investors, interest rates, equities, United States, USD, diversification, gold, hedging,Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

Mar 2, 2026 • 16min
Fragmented forces shaping the markets - Global Investment Views by Outerblue Convictions
As tariffs figures once again hit the headlines, our new episode of Outerblue Convictions measures the feeling in the markets and looks at some of the main drivers over the past few weeks. Swaha Pattanaik speaks to Monica Defend, head of the Amundi Investment Institute, to gauge her reaction to the latest round of tariffs, and whether these impact our investment views.This month's episode looks at the switch we've seen in global markets in this new era of controlled disorder, analyses some of the disruptions from AI that are already starting to play out, and explores some of the diversification opportunities that can be found in this fragmented environment. We also discuss whether we can expect the gold rally to continue, why India remains a key investment theme, and we finish by looking forward to the upcoming EU summit and why it might be relevant for markets.Concise, insightful and timely, this episode is essential listening for investors and asset allocators seeking a clear, expert take on macro-economic signals and monetary policy moves. Tune in for practical perspectives, investment views and the themes that will shape portfolios in the short and medium-term. Topics covered: Market forecasts, monetary policy, policy making, investment views, asset allocation, economy, central banks, gold, markets, investors, equities, bonds, fixed income, Europe, India, emerging markets, AI, diversification, tariffs,Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

Feb 3, 2026 • 11min
Tracking the trends in a time of rupture - Global Investment views by Outerblue Convictions
After a flurry of headlines and announcements from the annual World Economic Forum in Davos in January, one key message is likely to survive after most of the speeches have been long-forgotten; The world is facing a rupture in the international order. Catching-up last week on her return from the meetings, Monica Defend, head of the Amundi Investment Institute, sat down with our host, Swaha Pattanaik, to share her observations from the ground and on how this rupture is likely to impact our economic research and investment views.As policy, geopolitics and volatility drive the market cycle, we look at what this means for the monetary policy outlook in the US and the key data driving forecasts. We consider some of the short and medium-term trends we're seeing in the markets, particularly gold and the forces driving the record highs, what's been impacting the US dollar, and examine what has been happening in the Japanese market, both for foreign exchange and government bonds.Concise, insightful and timely, this episode is essential listening for investors and asset allocators seeking a clear, expert take on macro-economic signals and monetary policy moves. Tune in for practical perspectives, investment views and the themes that will shape portfolios in the short and medium-term. To learn more, read the article on the same topic: https://research-center.amundi.com/article/diversification-response-ruptureTopics covered: Market forecasts, monetary policy, policy making, investment views, asset allocation, economy, Davos, geopolitics, central bank, Federal Reserve, Japan, Gold, markets, investors, interest rates, bonds, fixed income, FX, foreign exchange, United States, diversification Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

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Dec 19, 2025 • 13min
Monetary policy resolutions for a new year - Global Investment views by Outerblue Convictions
In this insightful discussion, Monica Defend, Head of the Amundi Investment Institute and a senior macro strategist, shares her expert views on monetary policy and market forecasts for 2026. She predicts two Fed cuts as well as two ECB cuts, linking these to growth and inflation trends. Monica also emphasizes the risks in equity concentration and the need for portfolio diversification amid macro fragilities. Additionally, she highlights emerging markets as a potential bond-focused diversifier, offering a selective approach to investment.

Nov 24, 2025 • 13min
2026 Investment Outlook - Keep it turning - Global Investment views by Outerblue Convictions
Monica Defend, Head of the Amundi Investment Institute, shares her insights on the macroeconomic landscape and investment strategies for 2026. She discusses how AI will drive growth while creating valuation risks. With central banks expected to adopt different approaches, she outlines monetary policies in key economies. Monica emphasizes the importance of diversification, focusing on emerging markets, gold, and private infrastructure as investment opportunities. Her perspective is both timely and essential for navigating the evolving market dynamics.

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Nov 7, 2025 • 13min
Deciphering conflicting signals - Global Investment views by Outerblue Convictions
In this engaging discussion, Monica Defend, Head of the Amundi Investment Institute, shares insights from recent summits in Washington and Shanghai. She highlights a resilient economic outlook, predicting US inflation to hold around 3% by 2026. Monica explores the fascinating simultaneous rallies in equities and gold, attributing this to central bank policies and reserve diversification strategies. She also delves into Europe's evolving investment landscape, China's promising growth trajectory, and Japan's potential fiscal shifts under its new prime minister.

Sep 10, 2025 • 13min
Calm waves mask shifting undercurrents - Global Investment views by Outerblue Convictions
While Europe headed to the beach, journalists were kept busy with the newsflow out of the US this summer, as central bank independence, new tariff announcements and foreign affairs negotiations continued to make headlines.Swaha Pattanaik and Monica Defend, Head of Amundi Investment Institute, return to their desks to catch-up you up on what all the developments mean for market outlook and how our investment views are evolving to keep pace. This episode takes a closer look at the shifting undercurrents in the US market: tariffs, labour figures, policy and inflation uncertainty. We dig deeper into how the current political pressures are effecting markets, in particular the current challenges to the Federal Reserve's independence and the moves on the US Treasuries yield curve. We also take a closer look at valuations in the US equities markets and see how the Indian and Chinese economies have been holding up against the new tariff announcements.Topics covered: Investment views, markets, forecasts, US economy, US dollar, central banks, Federal reserve, interest rates, monetary policy, tariffs, yields, equities, fixed income, treasuries, GDP, India, China,Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

Jul 31, 2025 • 14min
Deal or no deal, expect twists and turns this summer - Global Investment views by Outerblue Convictions
With summer well underway in Europe, many may be on holiday, but this hasn't done anything to slow the newsflow. In particular, announcements from the US are keeping analysts busy. Swaha Pattanaik and Monica Defend, Head of the Amundi Investment Institute, get together to work out what the latest developments mean for the markets and share their investment views for growth, inflation and asset valuations. With a new US budget agreement and continued threat of new tariffs we debate their impact, both realised and potential, on growth and inflation in the US and elsewhere. The independence of central bank decision-making has also been a big topic of the month as the Fed has been facing continued political pressure over its interest rate decisions, which is rattling US assets. What might be the consequences for the US dollar and US treasuries? Finally, we look at whether this earnings season is offering any early warning signs of things to come and we drill down into our investment views and outlook for the main asset classes and markets. Topics covered: investment views, markets, macroeconomics, central banks, Fed, growth, inflation, interest rates, tariffs, US budget, US dollar, US treasuries, fiscal policy, monetary policy, economic forecasts, emerging markets, Asia, equities, fixed income, credit, earnings, Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

Jul 1, 2025 • 12min
Mid-year Outlook 2025 - Riding out the policy noise - Global Investment Views by Outerblue Convictions
The first six months of 2025 brought many unexpected events and shocks that rocked financial markets and complicated the task of economic forecasters. As we enter the second half of the year, what has changed and what might this mean for the economic outlook for the rest of 2025?Swaha Pattanaik sits down with Monica Defend, Head of the Amundi Investment Institute, to get her view on the growth and monetary policy outlook for the remainder of 2025. They discuss the impact of tariffs and geopolitical shifts on growth prospects in the US, China and beyond. They consider which areas might benefit from a weaker US dollar and where yield curves might be heading next. Finally, they examine the areas of resilience in the markets that could still offer opportunities to investors. Topics covered: Investment outlook, macroeconomics, forecasts, monetary policy, growth, interest rates, yield curves, bonds, equities, emerging markets, US dollar, China, US, Europe, Fed, debt, valuations, stock market, tariffs, geopolitics, volatility, AI, defense, Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.


