Human School

Miles Adcox
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Apr 1, 2026 • 1h 55min

Dr. Jeffrey Balser: How Great Leaders Handle Hard Things

If this conversation moves you, Onsite might be the nextstep. Their immersive workshops are where people go to stop performing and start doing the real work. Visit experienceonsite.com or call 1(800) 341-7432 to find the experience best for you. What if the grief you buried as a teenager becomes the force that makes you human enough to lead thousands? What if the greatest leadership lessons come not from aboardroom, but from a bedside? Dr. Jeffrey Balser is the CEO and President of VanderbiltUniversity Medical Center, one of the most respected academic medical institutions in the world with 45,000 employees and over a billion dollars in annual community benefit. But beneath the title is a man who spent a lifetime learning what most leaders never slow down long enough to figure out: that the grief you don't deal with follows you into the boardroom, that the skills you build in crisis belong just as much at home, and that the most important thing you lead may not be on your org chart. In this conversation, Miles and Jeff move between thepersonal and professional, with the ease of two people who have spent years paying attention. They talk about losing a mother to cancer at sixteen, how he chose the wrong path in college, and what it cost to walk out of one room where a patient didn't survive and into the next where someone needed him at full capacity. They talk about the Saturday email that confirmed the COVID vaccine worked, how his wife is to credit for Melinda keeping Nashville's parks open during the city shutdown, and why he's had the same executive coach for 25 years. What emerges in this conversation is a portrait of a man leading one of America's great institutions not by having all the answers, but by staying honest about how much he still has to learn.  In this conversation, you'll learn:How to Turn Personal Tragedy Into Emotional Resilience That LastsHow to Lead Tens of Thousands Without Losing the Human in the RoomHow to Use the "Weekend Rule" to Build a CultureWhere People Like Each OtherHow to Bring Work Home Without Destroying What's Waiting for You ThereHow to Emotionally Regulate the Way ICU Doctors Are Trained ToHow to Clean Out the Parking Lot Before It Runs Your LifeHow to Focus on the Middle Third When Unpopular Decisions Make You a TargetHow to Communicate Through Crisis in a Way That Builds TrustHow to Think About AI in Healthcare Without Losing WhatMakes Medicine HumanHow to Know When Your Most Important Role Isn't on YourBusiness Card Follow Human School:YouTube - Human School PodcastInstagram - @humanschoolofficialThreads - @humanschoolofficialTikTok - @humanschoolofficialWhat We Discuss:00:00:00 – Meet Dr. Jeffery Balser00:03:32 – Backing Into Medicine Through Math andEngineering00:05:54 – Losing His Mother at 16 and a Surprising Mentor00:10:37 – How Early Grief Taught Him to Handle Hard Things00:14:27 – Professions Don’t Stay at the Door00:20:53 – How Nashville's Parks Stayed Open in COVID00:23:19 – Leaving Johns Hopkins When His Gut Said Stop00:28:28 – Why Admin Rewards Take Longer but Run Deeper00:31:30 – What People Say Right Before Dangerous Surgery00:34:55 – The Medical Training Every Leader Needs: The ParkingLot00:44:00 – Having the Same Executive Coach for 25 Years00:48:50 – Empathy Is a Two-Way Street00:50:57 – Leading 45,000: The Only Thing That Scales Is WhoYou Recruit00:54:53 – The Weekend Rule That Transformed Vanderbilt'sCulture00:59:20 – The Tension of Scaling & Culture01:04:00 – Communication is Critical01:07:30 – Leading Tennessee Through COVID01:13:30 – What COVID Taught Us01:15:09 – The Saturday Email He’ll Never Forget01:19:45 – The Role of Medical Services in Overall Health01:27:29 – AI Saved a Life Before Surgery01:34:07 – Where Leaders Should Aim Their Energy01:46:10 – What 40 Years of Leadership Taught Him AboutBeing a Father01:53:48 – What Matters Most When the Statue's Just for theBirds
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Mar 25, 2026 • 1h 43min

Bear Rinehart: The Long Surrender to Freedom

Spend a few days getting honest, going deeper, and walking out lighter at Onsite. Visit ⁠experienceonsite.com⁠ to learn more or call 1-800-341-7432 to find the best experience for your story. Have you ever carried shame so long it started to weigh more than the life you were living?What if surrender isn't giving up, but the one move that sets everything free? Bear Rinehart is the frontman and voice of NEEDTOBREATHE — one of the most distinctive vocalists of his generation, whosesongs have filled arenas for two decades. But beneath the anthems is a man who spent years growing into what the world saw as a rock-and-roll frontman. As a preacher’s kid with social anxiety, a survivor of childhood trauma, and an artist who learned early that revealing too much could cost you everything, Bear has carried more than most people would guess from the stage.In this conversation, Miles and Bear share stories about shame, recovery, faith, fatherhood, and what it costs to finally step fully into who you are. What emerges is a portrait of two men in the middle of their own ongoing surrender, finding out in real time how much they have in common.That surrender became NEEDTOBREATHE’s newest project — The Long Surrender — the most personal record yet to the band, written by Bear in the early mornings, recorded in first takes, and built around the one lesson Bear keeps coming back to: that freedom isn't found by holding it together. It's found the moment you stop and let others into your healing. In this conversation, you'll learn:How to Recognize When Shame Is Masquerading as StrengthHow to Tell the Truth When You Fear Losing the RelationshipHow Surrender Becomes a Daily Practice, Not a One-Time EventHow to Create From Your Real StoryHow to Repair With Your Kids Before the Moment PassesHow to Know When Something You've Made Is True Enough to ReleaseHow to Build a Community That Goes DeeperHow to Use Influence for Impact Without Losing YourselfHow to Say Grateful 20 Years In When the World Wants MoreFollow Human School:YouTube - ⁠Human School Podcast⁠Instagram - ⁠@humanschoolofficial⁠Threads - ⁠@humanschoolofficial⁠TikTok - ⁠@humanschoolofficial⁠ What We Discuss:00:00:00 – Meet Bear Rinehart of NEEDTOBREATHE00:05:40 – “Do You Feel Known?” Bear's Honest Answer00:06:42 – Growing Up a Preacher's Kid with Social Anxiety 00:12:13 – Shame, the Church, and a Standard Nobody Could Meet00:14:17 – Recovery, Rethinking, and the Freedom of Powerlessness00:20:33 – What It Took to Finally Come Clean00:21:53 – Childhood Trauma: Why Everyone Kept It Quiet and What That Cost00:34:42 – Parenting Lessons From Their Kids00:40:15 – The Long Surrender: How the Song and Album Broke Open00:50:15 – How a Red Clay Strays Session Accidentally Led to an Album00:59:32 – The Night Before Long Surrender01:02:54 – Being Married to a Therapist01:06:57 – Why Deep Adult Friendships Are Rare and Worth Fighting For01:12:19 – A Deep Passion for Charity01:19:58 – Bear, The Athlete01:27:55 – From Club Rooms to Red Rocks01:30:50 – Bear's Musical Inspirations01:40:14 – Bear's Pre-Show Ritual & Meeting Springsteen01:42:50 – The Hope Beyond the Music
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Mar 23, 2026 • 1h 39min

Kathleen Murphy: What It Means to Come Home to Yourself

If something in this episode resonated, it might be worth a conversation. Onsite offers intensive workshops near Nashville and San Diego for people navigating burnout, trauma, relationships, and addiction. One free call with their team can help you find the right fit. Visit ⁠experienceonsite.com⁠ or call 1-800-341-7432. Have you ever been so buried in survival that you couldn't feel your own worth? What if everything you survived was quietly shaping you into exactly the person someone else needs?Kathleen Murphy, M.A., LMFT, LPC, is one of the most respected trauma clinicians in the field. Before that, she was homeless, addicted, and living on the streets with a one-year-old daughter, cycling through fourteen treatment programs before her life changed.She opens up about her childhood trauma and how it stuck with her, growing up as "a sin" in her mother's eyes, and what it felt like to be "symbolically annihilated." She reveals how Viktor Frankl’s book, a newspaper found on the street, and a shelter bed that arrived two weeks instead of six months later changed everything — and how those experiences became the foundation for the way she teaches today. She goes deep on why our hearts are like music, how we tune each other back to the key of life, and what it really means to stop arguing with reality.In this conversation, you'll learn: How to Find Your "Heart Home" and Why It Changes Everything How Suffering Becomes Your Greatest Gift to Others How to Stop Arguing With Reality and What Changes When You Do How to Tell the Difference Between a Boundary and Reaching Your Limit How Borrowing Someone's Eyes Dissolves Conflict Without Losing Your Voice How to Tune Your Heart Back to the Key of Life How to Help Someone Without Giving Advice How to Wake Up From a Trance of Unworthiness How to Hear Someone New Even If They've Told You the Same Thing Before How to Let Your Mess Become Your MessageFollow Human School:YouTube - ⁠⁠Human School Podcast⁠⁠Instagram - ⁠⁠@humanschoolofficial⁠⁠Threads - ⁠⁠@humanschoolofficial⁠⁠TikTok - ⁠⁠@humanschoolofficial⁠For anyone who missed it or wants a replay, this episode is back in your feed!What We Discuss: 00:00:00 – Meet Kathleen Murphy 00:03:15 – Kathleen’s Onsite Story: a leap of faith and right timing00:05:45 –Our hearts are more like music than machines00:07:50 – A "heart home" and where you flourish00:08:57 – The ocean, the storm, and the nature of the mind 00:10:30 – How to know if you're in wellness00:13:00 – Who are you beyond your roles and your story? 00:22:04 –Learning to receive love00:30:19 – Symbolic annihilation00:32:55 – July 27th, 1983 00:35:21 – Standing in a courtroom at age six00:39:25 – The moment love broke through on the streets 00:47:08 – Stepping into full surrender 00:55:13 – A book and borrowed courage 00:59:30 – The Message on the wall & the right to be angry01:04:08 – The Wires are Crossed: Danger & Safety 01:20:15 – New vulnerability: saying the scary thing out loud01:24:34 – There’s clinical language…then there’s conversational language01:29:14 – Trauma becomes the goal 01:31:56 – The tool that dissolves arguments01:35:10 – Kathleen’s tool on how to hear someone like it's the first time 01:37:35 – Words to take with you
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Mar 11, 2026 • 1h 49min

Chandler Moore: You Can't Heal What You Won't Let Anyone See

With campuses near Nashville and San Diego, Onsite supportspeople navigating burnout, relationship strain, addiction, trauma, or the sense that life feels off. Learn more at experienceonsite.com or call 1-800-341-7432. A simple conversation can be the first step toward living more fully.Have you ever carried a secret so heavy it started to collapse everything around you?What if the most honest thing you ever did was also thebravest — and changed everyone watching?Five-time Grammy winner Chandler Moore has led worship formillions, but behind the music was a story he hadn't told anyone. In this episode, Chandler opens up about childhood trauma, addiction, 40 days in inpatient treatment, and the therapeutic disclosure that changed his marriage and his life. He reveals how recovery is reshaping his new music, why safetywas his most important discovery, and how his biggest frustrations turned out to be his calling. Chandler goes deep into trusting your own reality, holdingtwo opposing truths, and finally stopping the performance, and how being the first in his family to do this work is now rippling into his kids, friendships, and art. In this conversation, you'll learn:How to Recognize That Safety Is the Foundation of AllHealingHow to Find the Ember When You Feel Like the Fire Is GoneHow Vulnerability Becomes a Gift Instead of a PerformanceHow to Stop Testing the Waters and Start Telling Your TruthHow Your Authenticity Has an Audience and How to Find ItHow "Playing to One" Helps You Connect WithThousandsHow to Debrief What You Consume So It Doesn't Consume YouHow Owning Your Story Changes the People Watching YouHow to Hold Two Opposite Truths at the Same TimeHow to Move From Inspiring People to Actually Impacting ThemFollow Human School:YouTube - Human School PodcastInstagram - @humanschoolofficialThreads - @humanschoolofficialTikTok - @humanschoolofficial What We Discuss:00:00:00 - Meet Chandler Moore00:02:15 - Why This Podcast Felt Like the Right First Step00:03:24 - Chandler's First Experience at Onsite00:07:20 - There's Always More Truth Than You Think You'reReady to Tell00:09:07 - Miles’s Treatment Journey and the Origin of HumanSchool00:11:50 - How Recovery Transformed Chandler's CreativeProcess00:15:00 - Being the First in His Family to Go to Therapy00:19:33 - Finding Safe People00:24:24 - The Mirror Moment00:33:09 - Therapeutic Disclosure: The Moment Things Changed00:36:15 - Embers: How to Find Your Fire When You FeelNothing00:39:39 - Vulnerability Is Not for Sale00:45:00 - Holding Two Things as True00:49:09 - The Heartbeat of Faith00:53:48 - How to Offload What You Consume Without BurningOut01:01:36 - The Cycle of Touring Artists01:07:38 - Mom's Letter01:17:05 - Chandler’s New Project01:19:42 - How Recovery Changed Chandler as a Father01:34:09 - The Johnny Cash Approach to Connection01:39:26 - Doubling: How Onsite Helped Reconstruct His Story01:43:11 - Stand in Your Divinity01:45:49 - The New Kind of Altar Call and Who It's ReallyFor
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Mar 4, 2026 • 1h 59min

Hunter Hayes: Chasing My Version of The Dream

With campuses near Nashville and San Diego,Onsite supports people navigating burnout, relationship strain, addiction, trauma, or the sense that life feels off. Learn more at experienceonsite.com or call 1-800-341-7432. A simple conversation can be the first step toward livingmore fully.What if the music you've been making your whole life was actually the therapy you never knew you needed?What if chasing someone else's version of success is the very thing keeping you from discovering who you actually are?Hunter Hayes has been on stages since he was a toddler. He earned Grammy nominations before most people have figured out what they want to do with their lives. He toured with Taylor Swift, scored radio hits, and built the kind of career that looks flawless from the outside. But behind all of it was a kid whofelt deeply lonely, who learned early that love and acceptance were things you earned by performing, and who spent years chasing a version of success that someone else had defined for him. In this episode, Hunter goes into the emotional terrain behind his music: the relationship between performance and belonging, the cost of tying your identity to external validation from the time you're five years old, and what it feels like when early success levels off and you must decide who you are. Hereveals how years of therapy, intensive work, and learning to understand his brain finally gave him permission to stop performing his life and start participating in it. He shares the moment that songwriting stopped being about writing hits and became therapy set to a melody.What makes this conversation unique is that Hunter and Miles don't just talk about the destination, they walk through the actual work. This is a conversation about what it looks like to come back to yourself after years of giving yourself away and how creativity, when it's rooted in honesty rather than performance, can become the most powerful tool for healing you've ever had.In this conversation, you'll learn:How to Use Songwriting, Journaling, or Any Creative Outlet as a Form of Emotional Processing How to Rebuild Your Identity When Your Career Has Always Been Your Entire Senseof Self How to Redefine Success So the Numbers Stop Running Your Life How to Invite Your Inner Child Back Into Your Creative Process Instead of Locking Him Out How to Protect Your Energy on Social Media Without Disappearing How to Find the People in Your Life Who See You for Who You Are, Not Just What You Produce How to Use Structure, Checklists, and Consistency as Mental Health Tools How to Write About Where You Want to Be Before You've Arrived There How to Be Proud of Yourself Out Loud Even When the Road Looked Messy From the OutsideFollow Human School: YouTube - Human School Podcast Instagram - @humanschoolofficial Threads - @humanschoolofficial TikTok - @humanschoolofficialWhat We Discuss:00:00:00 Welcome to Human School00:02:30 Why Hunter Spent 10 Years Chasing Someone Else's Version of the Dream00:05:00 What's Different About Hunter Today00:06:35 How an Onsite Intensive Became a Turning Point00:08:28 The Music That Taught Hunter He Had Permission to Write With Hope00:12:55 Music at Two Years Old and a Career No One Planned00:34:07 The Move to Music City from Louisiana00:43:15 Songwriting Became His Version of Journaling00:46:58 The Loneliness That Hid Inside an Idealistic Childhood00:56:25 The Sentence That Shattered Him at 1501:02:40 Letting the Inner Child Back Into the Creative Work01:05:30 Transactional and Purely Relational Friendships01:16:12 Storm Warning, Dan Huff, and the Radio Tour That Changed Everything01:26:48 Navigating Life After the Biggest Season of Early Success01:32:50 Why He Started Talking Openly About Mental Health01:39:46 Learning to Fly and the Life Metaphors Hidden Inside Every Pre-Flight Checklist01:48:04 The New Project: Evergreen Season One01:53:40 How Hunter Manages Social Media Without Letting It Manage Him
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Feb 25, 2026 • 1h 33min

Dr. Neil Bomar: Why Small "Paper Cuts" Do More Damage Than Big Injuries

Learn more about Onsite and Milestones at experienceonsite.com or call 1-800-341-7432. A simple conversation can be the first step toward living more fully.What if the wounds you can't name are doing more damage than the ones you can? What if healing doesn't happen in a sterile office, but around a campfire, in a community, or on a paddleboard?Dr. Neil Bomar, Vice President of Medical Services at Milestones, is not your typical psychiatrist. He's a man who spent years trying to fit inside the box of Western medicine before realizing the box wasn't right for him. He traded the "treat 'em and street 'em" model of traditional medicine for a radically human approach to psychiatry. An approach that blends neuroscience, experiential therapy, and the healing power of nature and genuine connection. In this conversation, Dr. Bomar opens up about his own "death day," the childhood moment that quietly rewired how he moved through the world. He shares what it was like to discover, well into his career, that his infectious enthusiasm and relentless positivity were, in part, a defense mechanism against pain. He goes deep into the surreal Thanksgiving when a bullet fell from the sky, struck him in the nose, and lodged in his cheek. And why, even then, his developmental wounding left the deeper mark. Miles and Dr. Bomar explore the dangerous myth that you must choose between brokenness and resilience, the subtle harm of toxic positivity, and why leading with your highlight reel is the fastest way to kill real intimacy. They introduce frameworks like "death days," event trauma versus developmental wounding, and angel work, making complex psychological concepts feel like something you'd hear from a trusted friend. In this conversation, you'll learn:How to Tell the Difference Between Event Trauma and Developmental Wounding How to Stop Weaponizing Your Story and Start Letting It Work For You How to Recognize Your "Death Day" How Toxic Positivity Can Be Just as Damaging as Toxic Negativity How Your Deepest Wound Is Often the Hidden Root of Your Greatest Strength How to Identify the "Angels" in Your StoryHow to Know When You've Crossed from Doing the Work into Over-Identifying with Your Pain How to Choose Being Relational Over Being Right in Every Room You Enter How Community Heals What Therapy Alone Cannot Follow Human School: YouTube - Human School Podcast Instagram - @humanschoolofficial Threads - @humanschoolofficial TikTok - @humanschoolofficialWhat We Discuss:00:00 Meet Dr. Neil Bomar 00:04:35 Why Dr. Bomar Left Traditional Medicine Behind 00:10:01 A Western Medicine Doctor Meets Experiential Therapy00:11:27 The Family Intensive at Onsite That Changed Everything00:13:40 What He Learned About Sadness Growing Up00:14:40 "Happy Jack": The Public Man, the Private Reality, and the Weight of Both 00:21:29 The "Goodness of Fit" Theory: Feeling Like an Outlier in Your Own Family00:26:30 What Is Developmental Wounding?00:27:30 "Death Day": The Childhood Moment That Quietly Rewires Your Identity 00:29:49 A Bullet Fell From the Sky00:33:00 Event Trauma vs. Developmental Wounding: Which One Is Actually Harder to Heal 00:38:30 What Is Trauma, Really? Cutting Through the Expert Debate to What Actually Matters 00:44:06 What He Heard It 25 Years Too Late 00:48:57 Overcompensating From Insecurity00:54:00 Angel Work: Identifying the People Who Saw You Before You Saw Yourself 00:57:45 The Bravest Thing a Leader Can Say 00:58:36 Leading With Your Highlight Reel vs. Your Failures01:00:27 Over-Identifying With Your Illness: Where Healing Ends and Victimhood Begins 01:05:35 Angel Work Healing That No Playbook Could Have Predicted 01:09:07 What a Client Said About Milestones That Stopped Him Cold01:19:09 A Question That Changes Everything - Being Right or Being Relational01:25:51 What Miles & Dr. Bomar Into Now01:29:58 Dr. Bomar's Parting Message to Listeners
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Feb 18, 2026 • 1h 11min

Shawn & Andrew East: Managing High-Stakes Pressure in Every Season of Life

Andrew East, former NFL long snapper turned psychologist and entrepreneur, and Shawn Johnson East, Olympic gold medalist who rebuilt life after elite sport, share candid stories. They discuss performance pressure, emotional numbing from elite training, identity after retirement, protecting marriage amid public life, parenting routines, recovery from disordered eating, and curiosity-driven partnership.
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Feb 11, 2026 • 2h

Meghan Riordan Jarvis: Falling Apart as a Grief Expert & Creating What Grief Was Missing

If this conversation resonated, Onsite & Milestones are safe places to land and process grief. Learn more at experienceonsite.com or call 1-800-341-7432. A simple conversation can be the first step toward living more fully.Have you ever been hit by grief so hard that it knocked you off every foundation you thought you had? What if grief isn't a problem to be solved, but an energy inside your body that's asking to be tended? And no one ever taught you how. Meghan Riordan Jarvis is a trauma therapist, bestselling author of the memoir End of the Hour, and the host of Grief is My Side Hustle, a podcast that has helped thousands of people feel less alone in their loss. But what makes Meghan extraordinary isn't just her clinical expertise in trauma-informed care, EMDR, and body-centered healing; it's the fact that she fell completely apart after her mother died, and had the courage to seek help as a patient in the very world she had spent her career serving.In this conversation, Meghan opens up about losing her mother six years ago and what it felt like to arrive at a treatment program as a clinician who "knew everything." She reveals the early childhood loss that shaped her, the fury that drove her to build something new, and how a morning walk with her Episcopal priest friend changed the way she practices daily. Watch in real time as Meghan does what she does best: shows up with compassion first, no fixes required.Miles and Meghan also pull back the curtain on the Grief M.E.N.T.O.R. Method: Meghan's six-component framework that is rewriting how clinicians, companies, and everyday people understand and support loss. From the neuroscience of why your brain codes grief like a trauma folder, to why the five stages of grief were never meant for you, to why your body literally cannot trust itself to heal if you never go to the bathroom during the workday, this conversation is the grief education none of us ever got. In this conversation, you'll learn:How to Understand What Grief Actually IsHow to Recognize When Your Body Is Carrying Grief Before Your Mind Does How to Stop White-Knuckling Through Hard Seasons Alone How to Apply the Grief M.E.N.T.O.R. Method as a Daily Practice How to Support a Grieving Person Without Saying the Wrong Thing How to Tell the Difference Between Grief and Clinical Depression and Why It Matters How to Reframe the Story You're Telling About Your Loss How to Move Anger and Energy Through Your Body Instead of Staying Stuck in It How to Stop Looking Outside Yourself for the Answers Welcome to Human School, where we learn what matters most - Miles Adcox Follow Human School: YouTube - Human School Podcast Instagram - @humanschoolofficial Threads - @humanschoolofficial TikTok - @humanschoolofficial What We Discuss:00:00 Introduction00:01:17 Meet Meghan Riordan Jarvis00:02:35 It's Always About the Story: The Red Tabaco Barn00:13:15 Grief Redefined00:20:48 The Labyrinth at Onsite00:27:10 Sacred Instincts and Knowing What You Need 00:29:09 How Miles and Meghan Met00:34:23 Meghan's Grief Origin Story & What Launched Her into This Career00:43:26 Grief vs. Depression: Why Treating Them The Same Way is a Critical Mistake 00:45:44 A New Season of Grief - Life After Losing Her Mom00:57:21 How Fury Became Rocket Fuel for the Grief M.E.N.T.O.R. Method 01:02:10 Why Even the Experts Aren't Protected01:07:04 What to Say to a Griever: Practical, Human Guidance 01:12:02 The Neuroscience That Explains Everything 01:16:41 Empathy vs. Compassion: Why the Distinction Matters and How It Changes Who You Become 01:23:44 Meghan's Three-Step Framework01:25:03 The Triangle of Trust01:29:17 Mangled Spirituality, Morning Walks with a Priest, and Phone Alarms01:36:21 What Happens When You Don't Address Grief01:39:54 The Grief M.E.N.T.O.R. Method Explained 01:54:09 Why Miles Changed What Onsite Calls Its Clinicians 01:57:20 The Closing Message Neither of Them Planned 
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Feb 4, 2026 • 2h 2min

Mallory Ervin: What I Had to Lose to Find Myself

If this conversation resonated, Onsite offers immersive therapeutic experiences to help you slow down, reconnect, and get honest about what matters most. With campuses near Nashville and San Diego, Onsite supports people navigating burnout, relationship strain, addiction, trauma, or the sense that life feels off. Learn more at experienceonsite.com or call 1-800-341-7432. A simple conversation can be the first step toward living more fully. What happens when you stop performing your life and start living it?What if the exhaustion you're feeling isn't a sign you're doing something wrong, but proof you're finally doing something real? Mallory Ervin has lived much of her life in front of people—as Miss Kentucky, on The Amazing Race, as a creator who's built an expansive online community, and as the founder of brands like Living Fully and In My Sundays. But what makes her story compelling isn't the resume. It's what she's done underneath all of it. Instead of hardening or hiding, Mallory has softened. She's let her life shape her work, and she hasn't rushed past the hard seasons or cleaned them up before telling the truth. In this conversation, Mallory opens up about the cost of being known, the weight of building businesses while raising young kids, and the moments that forced her to ask whether she was living fully or just filling her days. She talks about the difference between being busy and being present and why rest became the foundation of her most successful business. She reveals what it's like to rebuild your sense of self when the world already has an opinion about who you are. This isn't a conversation about balance or having it all figured out. It's about what it takes to stay human in the middle of a life that moves fast, feels full, and demands more than you sometimes have to give. In this conversation, you'll learn:How to stop living in the performance and start living in the presenceHow grief doesn't follow a timeline and why that's okayHow motherhood forces you to confront who you really areHow to build a business around rest when you've spent your life runningHow to navigate the gap between who you are in public and who you are at homeHow to stop waiting for permission to take up spaceHow to let your life shape your work instead of the other way aroundHow to stay soft in a world that rewards being hardHow to honor the liminal space instead of rushing to the next thingHow to stop apologizing for being human Welcome to Human School, where we learn what matters most - Miles Adcox Follow Human School:YouTube - Human School PodcastInstagram - @humanschoolofficialThreads - @humanschoolofficialTikTok - @humanschoolofficial What We Discuss:00:00:00 Intro - Welcome to Human School00:00:17 Meet Mallory Ervin00:02:02 Showing Up Tired and Grateful00:05:19 Why Authenticity Became Non-Negotiable00:07:32 Why Recovery Was the Greatest Gift of My Life00:17:20 Rock Bottom, Surrender, and Radical Honesty00:23:10 You Don’t Have to Hit Rock Bottom to Change Your Life00:32:57 Distraction, Social Media, and Avoiding Yourself00:41:15 When Help Turned Into Addiction: Mallory's Journey to Recovery00:58:52 What Recovery Support Actually Looks Like01:08:30 Earning a PhD in Yourself01:13:38 The Temptation to Go Back to Old Patterns01:18:58 What Recovery Taught Me About Daily Life01:35:52 Defining What "Live Fully" Really Means in Life01:40:33 The Balance in Being Driven to Excellence and Staying Present01:43:44 Creating a Life Your Kids Can Learn From & Be a Part Of01:55:33 The Entrepreneur: Live Fully & In My Sundays 01:59:03 Closing Reflections on Authentic Living
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Jan 21, 2026 • 1h 31min

Drake White: Finding Out Rock Bottom Has A Basement

Transform your trauma at Onsite. Visit onsiteworkshops.com to explore life-changing programs designed to help you heal, grow, and rediscover hope.What if the worst moment of your life became the foundation for everything that came after?Country music artist Drake White collapsed on stage in 2019 during a performance in Roanoke, Virginia. He was diagnosed with an AVM (arteriovenous malformation), a tangled mass of blood vessels in his brain that ruptured mid-song, paralyzing his left side. What could have ended his career and his life became the beginning of a deeper story about faith, resilience, and purpose.In this conversation, Drake shares the surreal experience of having a stroke on stage and waking up in the hospital, unable to move half his body. He talks about how his wife duct-taped her leg to his and helped him relearn how to walk, only to face her own paralysis months later. He reflects on the moment a buck appeared on a trail camera behind his house and how that single image reignited his will to live. Drake goes into the basement of rock bottom, the power of covenant in marriage, and why listening to the quiet pull to “turn right instead of left” has reshaped how he lives.This is a conversation about losing everything you thought made you who you are and discovering that rebuilding teaches you who you’ve always been.In this conversation, you’ll learn:How to find purpose when everything that defined you is stripped awayWhy rock bottom has a basement and how foundations are built thereHow to turn trauma into testimony without skipping the painHow to navigate marriage when both partners are hurtingHow nature and hunting became part of Drake’s healing journeyWhy honoring bad days doesn’t cancel hopeHow to break free from negativity loops and victim narrativesHow to listen to the quiet pull guiding your next stepWelcome to Human School, where we learn what matters most—Miles AdcoxFollow Human School:YouTube – Human School PodcastInstagram – @humanschoolofficialThreads – @humanschoolofficialTikTok – @humanschoolofficialWhat We Discuss:00:00:00 Intro - Welcome to Human School00:00:30 Drake White's Story: From Collapse to Comeback00:02:31 Rock Bottom Has a Basement: Building a Foundation in the Hole00:03:43 The Building Science Degree and Why Foundations Matter00:04:52 Getting Through Your Twenties Without Real Adversity00:10:40 Being in Her First Wedding: The Story of Pursuing Alex00:14:10 Diagnosed with an AVM: A Mass the Size of a Lime in His Brain00:16:21 August 16th, 2019: Taking the Stage in Roanoke, Virginia00:22:06 "I Thought I Had a Flat Tire, Not That the Engine Was Going Down"00:23:20 Exploration Over Fear: Surfing the Wave Psychologically00:25:19 The Deep Sleep Where He Had His Interaction with God00:26:22 Alex Drives Seven Hours: What Love Looks Like in Crisis00:28:43 Four Months Later: Alex's Paralysis in Steamboat Springs00:30:29 Calling for Help from Their Moms - "Nobody Loves You Like That"00:33:25 Relearning to Walk: The Thread of Hope Running Through It All00:35:39 Growing Up Baptist and Questioning Everything00:44:54 "The Ability to Have a Good Day in Bad Situations Is a Superpower"00:46:52 Taking a Right This Morning: Listening to the Pull00:51:02 Instinct, Intuition, Faith, and Self-Awareness00:53:03 Science and Religion Coexist: The Western Civilization Experiment01:00:05 "There's Always a Deeper Route" - Why Am I Here and Where Am I Going01:02:27 Coming Home After 40 Days and 40 Nights in the Hospital01:03:35 The Trail Camera Behind the House: A 175-Inch Deer01:12:11 Neuroplasticity: The Brain Forms New Pathways Around Lesions01:15:18 Make Your Trauma a Testimony for Somebody Else01:18:30 Ladder to the Sky: A Hunts the Healing Story01:21:38 Breaking the Negativity Loop, Blame Cycle, and Victim Narrative01:24:03 The Benefit for the Brain: A Night of Advocacy and Encouragement01:28:55 Be the Quarterback for Your Own Care

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