Inner Life, Talks and Thoughts

Mark Vernon
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Jan 30, 2022 • 20min

Love and Power - Making sense of science & statistics, control & conspiracies

How can we find a way through conflicts in and around science? What about experts and simplifications, uncertainties and advice, control and its consequences? Tensions are only going to get worse as the fallout and impact of Covid becomes clearer.In this talk, I consider two notions of power, as explored in the New Testament: dunamis, which might be thought of grace and space power or the power of love; and exousia, which is the power exercised by authorities and might be thought of as command and control power.This sense of the dynamics of love and power can illuminate the communication of science, across five areas:- reductive science and the bigger picture- scientists as provocateurs and experts- issues of cause and correlation- science, impact and hidden agendas- the status of science and conspiracy theoriesFor an academic article on some of the issues raised, have a look at my piece in Rethinking Biology (Eds Michael Reiss, Fraser Watts & Harris Wiseman), "The Public Understanding of Biology: a journalist’s perspective", online here - https://www.markvernon.com/rethinking-biology
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Jan 28, 2022 • 14min

From Ulro to Eternity - the place William Blake died. A walk and reflection

William Blake died in the apartment he shared with Catherine Blake on Sunday 12 August 1827.A contemporary letter reports: "He died ... in a most glorious manner. He said He was going to that Country he had all His life wished to see & expressed Himself Happy, hoping for Salvation through Jesus Christ – Just before he died His Countenance became fair. His eyes Brighten'd and he burst out Singing of the things he saw in Heaven."3 Fountain Court is now part of the Savoy complex, which I visited to contemplate how Blake can help us see death through the eyes of Ulro, Generation, Beulah and Eternity.For more about the work of Mark Vernon see www.markvernon.com
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Dec 14, 2021 • 1h 25min

Living In Awareness - a conversation with Rupert Spira & Mark Vernon #nondualism #Blake #Rumi #Dante

Rupert Spira and I met for a second conversation, beginning with one of William Blake's great exclamations of nondual awareness:“Awake! awake O sleeper of the land of shadows, wake! expand!I am in you and you in me, mutual in love divineI am not a God afar off, I am a brother and friend;Within your bosoms I reside, and you reside in me:Lo! we are One”We discussed the meanings of suffering and death that feel so needed and neglected in our times; different possibilities for the experience of time and the value of disagreement, similarly overlooked; the role of the erotic, play and the imagination on this path; and the reality of angels and the guidance of myths.1:39 The presence of nondualism today3:30 The meaning of suffering16:59 The true nature of death23:39 A different experience of time: Chronos, Kairos, Eternity36:06 The drivers of consumption and desiring heaven on earth42:29 The value of disagreement45:59 The erotic, play and standing in love53:43 The expansive value of the imagination1:02:54 Messages, angels and hierarchies1:14:36 Myths and crafts as guidesFor more about Rupert Spira see - https://rupertspira.comFor more about Mark Vernon see - https://www.markvernon.comOur first conversation is online here - https://youtu.be/x0SfOFPCPgk
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Dec 9, 2021 • 35min

Christmas according to William Blake - a warning

Delve into William Blake's provocative critique of Christmas, where he challenges the gentle, sentimental image of Jesus. Through his vivid illustrations, he warns of the dangers of institutionalized religion and the loss of divine vision. Explore themes of repressed passions and the confinement of spiritual imagination. Discover how Blake envisions Jesus not as a meek child, but as a powerful force urging humanity to awaken to a deeper understanding of love and connection. It's a thought-provoking meditation on faith and creativity.
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Dec 1, 2021 • 8min

Dante on living in riven times. A thought

Our times are marked by divides that will remain, possibly deepen. Has the Divine Comedy anything meaningful to offer a riven state?For more thoughts on Dante, and a guide to the Divine Comedy, have a dig around my YouTube channel or website - https://www.markvernon.com
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Nov 21, 2021 • 58min

How to talk about God: on why God is not an object

Some talk about God too much. Others are said to be too embarrassed ever to do so. I think much of the pickle around God-talk arises from a fundamental, modern mistake. God is not an object to be proven, evidenced or possessed. God is the subjectivity of existence itself - beyond talk, though talk we must do, because talk too is already in God.I muse on what that might mean, not least when it comes to talking about God.01:11 Why the religiously wary seem religiously alive02:40 The mistake of trying to prove God’s existence05:00 The mistake of going by religious success06:12 The mistake of presuming a gap between God and humanity07:11 The mistake of treating religions as complete08:36 The mistake of separating grace and nature11:17 Beyond peak experiences to the existence itself13:15 Beyond praying to God and God as an object in religious settings16:11 Beyond human and divine relationality17:59 On the lovely limits of talking about God23:00 On reason as a guide, reflection as discernment24:34 On divine union and the fundamentals of existence28:30 On the meaning of love30:06 How to talk of God in God and the greatest question33:49 Why we don’t need anything though there’s everything to know35:35 The nature of true apologetics36:36 The nature of “religio”39:25 Teacherly authority and sages42:20 Direct presence and the spiritual senses44:15 Spotting when God becomes an object again46:54 There are many revelations not one true product49:17 Christianity beyond Christianity and sensing a future55:12 The good news and the question not of if but how
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Nov 11, 2021 • 5min

Spiritual Intelligence: what it is, why it’s needed, how it might return

I'm talking about an essay that can be found online at the Perspectiva website - https://systems-souls-society.com/spiritual-intelligence-what-it-is-why-its-needed-how-it-might-return/
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Nov 6, 2021 • 29min

Plato, Eros & Beautiful Bodies. A critique of God: An Anatomy by Francesca Stavrakopoulou

I much enjoyed the conversation with Hetta Howes, Matthew Sweet and Francesca Stavrakopoulou on God: An Anatomy. It was broadcast on BBC Radio 3’s Free Thinking (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m00114py).We had a good conversation over profound differences, which I develop further here. I think they matter, not just as an academic spat, in this case about God, embodiment and Plato. But because understanding the Athenian right offers a path back to a participative, life-giving relationship with the cosmos.Put it like this. “The cosmic body is the most beautiful and perfect,” Plato wrote at the end of the Timaeus. So why is it that so many academics presume he despised physicality, in favour of a dry world of abstractions, and what did he actually say?01:05: Challenging the atheist agenda01:53 How projections reveal reality and deities04:33 Critiquing academic assumptions Plato05:40 Why there are no such things as "Platonic abstractions”09:34 Why Plato didn’t think the spiritual was immaterial15:16 Why Plato didn't separate divine and mortal life17:13 Christianity’s problem with erotic energy23:38 Who’s to blame for distorting Plato
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Nov 1, 2021 • 50min

Homo Sapiens? Mark Vernon & Charles Foster in conversation

Few have explored the nature of being human more directly than Charles Foster. He writes about his experiences in the wild in his books, Being A Beast and, most recently, Being A Human, raising profound questions about our awareness of the natural world in the past, present and future.The evolving nature of our perceptions of ourselves and the cosmos is also close to the work of Mark Vernon, both as a psychotherapist and writer. Are we Homo sapiens, narrans, scientificus, ignorans, noeticus - or simply loquens, never sure what we are talking about?In this conversation, Mark and Charles explore what the Palaeolithic might inspire in us today, how big histories of humanity get so much wrong, and the consciousness that could be needed for the future.For more on Charles' work see - https://www.charlesfoster.co.ukFor more on Mark's work see - https://www.markvernon.com
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Oct 31, 2021 • 23min

Apocalypse Now: Arnold Toynbee, William Blake and our understanding times

The British historian, Arnold Toynbee, is currently out of fashion. The British poet and artist, William Blake, is not, though he is rarely well understood. So what might they have to say to our times?Toynbee strove to understand the inner as well as outer processes of history, developing a theory he called etherialisation. Blake appreciated the destructive power of the dark, Satanic mills, with their loss of divine imagination.Bring them together, and the two perspectives are remarkably illuminating in terms of both understanding and responding to now.0:32 Toynbee and the inner life of history1:52 Roman roads and the emergence of Christianity4:35 Dante as an example of the exile who renews6:28 The axial figures and civilisational change8:24 Today and the allure of technological fixes9:50 Beyond western Christianity and materialist philosophy12:27 The guidance of Dante and William Blake14:41 Golgonooza, Los and facing the Furnaces of affliction17:01 Destruction and the renewal of inner vision18:57 History, virtue and relating again to nature20:47 Mistakes and forgiveness: rebuilding inner wisdom

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