Life After MLM

*Content Warning* This episode features a former rep from Pure Romance, an MLM that deals with adult products and toys. We talk about many topics that are not suitable for younger listeners, and could be triggering for some, including sexual situations and trauma. Please listen at your own discretion.In part 2, "Ruth" finishes her story about her time in Pure Romance and shares what she started to experience as soon as higher education came into her life. We talk about the aspects of Pyramid Schemes and how certain things she personally saw mirrored Robert FitzPatrick's teachings on what the cornerstones are. Now that "Ruth" is AntiMLM, she shares some of her favorite creators and resources for support and education, and we chat about the future of the movement.Show NotesSex and HIV Education - https://www.guttmacher.org/state-policy/explore/sex-and-hiv-education?gclid=CjwKCAjw-qeFBhAsEiwA2G7Nl7q1sPQYTzx8yqWsP3tNKlal58tj30GoLh_ezh4So2CHnrLoo4JrDRoCiZgQAvD_BwENot The Good Girl - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4DMThX0F-h6F1nzCbp6shwMonica Hayworth's Anti MLM Group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/478231729691989iilluminaughtii - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpDmn2FfVYdPIDwRTcf5-OAPonzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRSHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow us on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like us on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcastFollow me on TikTok for Anti MLM humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFind me on CLUBHOUSE at @therealrobertablevinsBecome a monthly supporter for as little as $.99! https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/support*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos.--- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

*Content Warning* This episode features a former rep from Pure Romance, an MLM that deals with adult products and toys. We talk about many topics that are not suitable for younger listeners, and could be triggering for some, including sexual situations and trauma. Please listen at your own discretion."Ruth" joined Pure Romance when her previous MLM, Slumber Parties was bought out and they were merged together. For 7 years, she was at the top 5% of the company, educating on sexual health and wellness, or so she thought. Despite any gut feelings, she stayed because she genuinely loved connecting with her customers. After realizing that some of the people she was helping needed a lot more than she could offer, "Ruth" found her true calling.Show NotesSlumber Parties/Pure Romance merger - https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/pure-romance-llc-acquires-slumber-parties-240825911.htmlKinsey Institute - https://kinseyinstitute.org/Me and the "Giant Lollipop" - https://www.instagram.com/p/CNbSljMlRA4/Cal Exotics Products - https://amzn.to/3bN7BxPPure Romance Dupes - https://www.skinsafeproducts.com/pure-romancePonzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRSHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow us on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like us on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcastFollow me on TikTok for Anti MLM humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFind me on CLUBHOUSE at @therealrobertablevinsBecome a monthly supporter for as little as $.99! https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/support*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos.--- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Another Bonus episode! And this time it's with my girl, Chelsea! You may know her from her YouTube Channel where she does deep dives into MLM companies, talks to former 1%, and exposes scammers, among other things. We chat about her new gig as a full time content creator, her personal experiences in MLM, and the differences she's seen between being an actual sales professional, vs an MLM rep. Plus, Chelsea's beef with Monat, and what you can do to help too.Show NotesChelsea's YouTube Channel - https://www.youtube.com/c/CCSuarezChelsea's TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@iamccsuarez?Chelsea's Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/iamccsuarez/Chelsea's Linktree - https://linktr.ee/iamccsuarezLeah Remini: Scientology and the Aftermath - https://www.aetv.com/shows/leah-remini-scientology-and-the-aftermathChloe + Isabel closes - https://www.businessforhome.org/2019/07/mlm-company-chloe-and-isabel-will-close-business/Monat Deep Dive - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLMukadDHtIAshley Moody, FL AG - http://www.myfloridalegal.com/pages.nsf/Main/1515CE372E59D1E885256CC60071B1C4GOT Petyr Baelish "Motives" speech - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdpcyovK0ZUDEAR BOSS BABE: A RESPONSE FOR COLD MESSAGES | OPEN LETTER TO NETWORK MARKETERS - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dekiL3MVa0Monat issuing refunds following Florida Attorney General investigation into hair care product claims - https://www.wrtv.com/news/wrtv-investigates/monat-issuing-refunds-following-florida-attorney-general-investigation-into-hair-care-product-claims#:~:text=Consumers%20who%20believe%20they%20are,the%20refund%20request%20form%20here.Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRSHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow us on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like us on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcastFollow me on TikTok for Anti MLM humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFind me on CLUBHOUSE at @therealrobertablevinsBecome a monthly supporter for as little as $.99! https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/support*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos.--- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

"Moira" was a stay at home mom of 3 boys, who bought into the hype of MLM in 2016. While chasing the dream of being at the top of the pyramid, "Moira" found herself involved with 3 different MLMs, including an elusive invitation to a "Ground Floor Opportunity". From her vantage point, she got a deep look into the toxic positivity of MLM, and experienced more psychological manipulation than she bargained for.Show NotesMillennial Women Made LuLaRoe Billions. Then They Paid The Price. - https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/stephaniemcneal/lularoe-millennial-women-entrepreneurship-lawsuitsIs Color Street A Scam? 5 Reasons Why You Should Avoid This MLM! - https://youraffiliatesalary.com/is-color-street-a-scamThe Dream Podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-dream/id1435743296You know those bags with the clear pockets to display your MLM haul? - https://www.reddit.com/r/antiMLM/comments/al43ta/you_know_those_bags_with_the_clear_pockets_to/What is Toxic Positivity? - https://www.verywellmind.com/what-is-toxic-positivity-5093958#:~:text=Toxic%20positivity%20is%20the%20belief,vibes%20only%22%20approach%20to%20life.What is Gaslighting? - https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/gaslighting#:~:text=Gaslighting%20is%20a%20form%20of,and%20unable%20to%20trust%20themselves.Manipulative people hook their victims with a tactic called 'love bombing' — here are the signs you've been a target - https://www.businessinsider.com/what-is-love-bombing-2017-7How to Leave an MLM - https://www.finder.com/how-to-leave-an-mlmBrene Brown - https://brenebrown.com/I Thought It Was Just Me (but it isn't): Making the Journey from "What Will People Think?" to "I Am Enough" - https://amzn.to/2SKHRv4Simon Sinek - "Leaders Eat Last" - https://amzn.to/3wfduvvSimon Sinek - "Start With Why" - https://amzn.to/2SVPHSPMonica Hayworth's Anti MLM Group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/478231729691989Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRSHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow us on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like us on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcastFollow me on TikTok for Anti MLM humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFind me on CLUBHOUSE at @therealrobertablevinsBecome a monthly supporter for as little as $.99! https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/support*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos.--- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In the conclusion of Megan's story, she shares her struggles with Senegence, the predatory and toxic nature of what she experienced inside the cult, and how she got out and moved on. We also connect on a personal level and find out we have a lot more in common that just MLM (which is a pattern of coincidence I'm starting to see on this show...).Show NotesMegan "ZonaLife" YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCL-WOySfYcGuFzLaI9qWnJQsErica McBeth YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCV1lJDzOZshmJPn76_J4kKg52 New Friends - https://amzn.to/33IqBcpAmerican Foundation for Suicide Prevention - https://afsp.org/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRSHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow us on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like us on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcastFollow me on TikTok for Anti MLM humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFind me on CLUBHOUSE at @therealrobertablevinsBecome a monthly supporter for as little as $.99! https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/support*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos.--- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

As an addict in recovery, Megan was targeted in her sacred Tuesday Night meeting by a seemingly friendly looking, tattooed woman who she connected with. Over a cup of coffee, she's pitched the beauty MLM, Senegence and decides to start her "business". Over the course of her time with the company, Megan started to notice things weren't what she signed up for. Thankfully for us, she's spilling all the SeneTea.Show NotesMegan "ZonaLife" YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCL-WOySfYcGuFzLaI9qWnJQs Million Dollar Lips: A Journey into the Hearts of Women and Business - https://amzn.to/3utlZlOSeneGence Compensation Plan - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuLQL65Miz4Senegence 2020 IDS - https://cdn.colorstreet.com/content/documents/incomedisclosure-2020.pdfSENEGENCE INCOME CLAIMS DATABASE - https://www.truthinadvertising.org/senegence-income-claims-database/Senegence and The DSA - https://www.dsa.org/forms/CompanyFormPublicMembers/view?id=7F300001010Senegence Foundation Swatch Chart - https://swakbeauty.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/IMG_0778.pngSenegence Crown Princess Ring - https://www.pinterest.com/pin/240450067590518223/Can You Make Money with Senegence? - https://www.finance-guy.net/streetonomic/money-senegence-reviewPonzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRSHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow us on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like us on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcastFollow me on TikTok for Anti MLM humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFind me on CLUBHOUSE at @therealrobertablevinsBecome a monthly supporter for as little as $.99! https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/support*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos.--- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In this bonus episode, I interview the hosts of Sip with Me about their MLM themed, second season. I had so much fun talking with Ioanna and Aaron last summer on their show, that I had to have them on mine! They recount what they learned diving into the Anti MLM world, their own cringey experiences with MLM, how it invaded their personal and professional spaces and even share an MLM inspired cocktail created just for the show!Show NotesSip with Me Podcast - https://www.sipwithme.org/podcastSip with Me Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/sipwithme_/My episode with Ioanna & Aaron! - https://www.sipwithme.org/podcast/episode/27d46f9a/s2-e5-anti-mlm-movement-with-roberta-blevinsHow lobbying dollars prop up pyramid schemes - https://www.theverge.com/2014/4/8/5590550/alleged-pyramid-schemes-lobbying-ftcDirect Sellers Association - https://www.dsa.org/Multi Level Marketing for Personal Trainers - Is it Ethical? - https://www.instituteofpersonaltrainers.com/blog/multi-level-marketing-for-personal-trainers-is-it-ethicalMurder Murder News - https://murdermurder.news/Art of Sucre - https://artofsucre.com/Holly Nicols - https://www.hnicholsillustration.com/Coyote Ugly Las Vegas - https://www.coyoteuglysaloon.com/vegas/The Call Center Scam - https://www.sipwithme.org/podcast/episode/232b1e97/s3-e4-call-center-scamTrue Crime with Diane Fanning - https://www.sipwithme.org/podcast/episode/bc5b684a/s3-e5-true-crime-with-diane-fanningPonzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRSHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow us on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like us on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcastFollow me on TikTok for Anti MLM humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFind me on CLUBHOUSE at @therealrobertablevinsBecome a monthly supporter for as little as $.99! https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/support*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos.--- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In the conclusion of Amanda's story, we finish up the BITE model and talk about the artificial "mentorship" and friendships of MLM. Once she understood what was actually happening, she became fiercely protective of her groups outside of Amway and started to realize that this wasn't what she signed up for. Her and her husband decided that it was time to leave, and shortly after things began to change.Show NotesSteven Hassan’s BITE Model of Authoritarian Control - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/LAMLM : The BITE Model with Josie Naikoi Part 1 - https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/episodes/Episode-19--Josie-Naikoi---The-BITE-Model---Part-1-eurvavLAMLM : The BITE Model with Josie Naikoi Part 2 - https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/episodes/Episode-20--Josie-Naikoi---The-BITE-Model---Part-2-eutm6nJosie Naikoi "Not the Good Girl" - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4DMThX0F-h6F1nzCbp6shwSavy Leister "Savy Writes Books" - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9WShNx2HsXRGjj9F593HzAHaley O'Bryan "Counselor Haley" - https://www.instagram.com/counselorhaley/?hl=enNutrilite - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NutriliteThe Pyramid of Amway - https://arrestyourdebt.com/amway-pyramid-scheme/Amway Made China a Billion-Dollar Market. Now It Faces a Crackdown. - https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/08/business/amway-china.htmlWhat Happened When China Joined the WTO? - https://world101.cfr.org/global-era-issues/trade/what-happened-when-china-joined-wtoAmway - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AmwayDirect Selling in China: Multi-Level Marketing, But Not As You Know It - https://www.tmogroup.asia/direct-selling-in-china-multi-level-marketing/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRSHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow us on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like us on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcastFollow me on TikTok for Anti MLM humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFind me on CLUBHOUSE at @therealrobertablevinsBecome a monthly supporter for as little as $.99! https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/support*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos.--- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Amanda and her husband were newly transplanted into Southern California for work, and looking for some mentorship and direction in life when she met a nice girl offering just that at a coffee shop. She was quickly swept up into the controlling nature of the oldest MLM in the world, Amway. Amanda and I talk about what life was like inside the cult, the BITE Model, and Amway's odd fixation on married couples and The American Dream.Show NotesJosie Naikoi "Not the Good Girl" - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4DMThX0F-h6F1nzCbp6shwSavy Leister "Savy Writes Books" - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9WShNx2HsXRGjj9F593HzAHaley O'Bryan "Counselor Haley" - https://www.instagram.com/counselorhaley/?hl=enWhy is California so Expensive? - https://sunlightliving.com/why-is-california-so-expensive/World Wide Group - https://www.wwghq.com/Robert Kiyosaki and Multi-Level Marketing Exposed! - https://www.lazymanandmoney.com/robert-kiyosaki-and-multi-level-marketing-exposed/How Amway Ruined my Marriage - https://www.reddit.com/r/antiMLM/comments/9t40an/how_amway_ruined_my_marriage_long/Beware Of Amway Mentors? - http://amwayscheme.blogspot.com/2017/05/beware-of-amway-mentors.htmlSteven Hassan’s BITE Model of Authoritarian Control - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/LAMLM : The BITE Model with Josie Naikoi Part 1 - https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/episodes/Episode-19--Josie-Naikoi---The-BITE-Model---Part-1-eurvavLAMLM : The BITE Model with Josie Naikoi Part 2 - https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/episodes/Episode-20--Josie-Naikoi---The-BITE-Model---Part-2-eutm6nExtreme Ownership - https://amzn.to/3eBVG6sThe Go-Giver - https://amzn.to/2QBlyaKStart with Why: How Great Leaders Inspire Everyone to Take Action - https://amzn.to/3333SaCPonzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRSHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow us on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like us on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcastFollow me on TikTok for Anti MLM humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFind me on CLUBHOUSE at @therealrobertablevinsBecome a monthly supporter for as little as $.99! https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/support*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos.--- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In the early 1990's Skip Press was a newlywed with a son on the way, looking for an alternative to the freelance life he was currently living; the thought of a corporate job with consistent, steady pay was enticing. He was hired on as the new Communications Director, and placed in charge of the huge yearly convention for a HUGE Multi Level Marketing company with juicy secrets. Things started to get weird almost immediately, as Skip recounts late night meetings, confidential confessions, volatile work environments, bogus health claims, and shocking evidence for future investigations in what he calls "the rocky ride on the chariot to the sun".Show NotesSkip Press - http://www.skippress.com/"Mormon Tea" - https://www.webmd.com/vitamins/ai/ingredientmono-569/mormon-teaNCAHF Position Paper on Over-the Counter Herbal Remedies (1995) - https://quackwatch.org/ncahf/pp/herbal/Two Plead Guilty in Massive Tax, Customs Fraud Case - https://quackwatch.org/cases/doj/chen/plea/Firm's Owners Indicted on Tax Evasion - https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1995-03-02-fi-37974-story.htmlUNITED STATES v. CHEN - https://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-9th-circuit/1368185.htmlThe regeneration of Dr. Chen - https://easyreadernews.com/profile-regeneration-dr-chen-doctors-tei-fu-oi-len-chen-meld-traditional-chinese-herbalism-western-science-billion-dollar-worldwide-nutritional-supplements-company/OrrinPAC PAC Donors - http://www.opensecrets.org/political-action-committees-pacs/orrinpac/C00235572/donors/2008DSHEA: Sen. Orrin Hatch’s Legacy to Direct Selling - https://www.directsellingnews.com/dshea-sen-orrin-hatchs-legacy-to-direct-selling/Herbal company aims to put tax scandal behind it - https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2009-sep-09-fi-sunrider9-story.htmlProsecutors Say Sunrider Made Profits Vanish in Import Abuse - https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB852589146988401500Traditional Chinese Medicine: What You Need To Know - https://www.nccih.nih.gov/health/traditional-chinese-medicine-what-you-need-to-knowLi Ching-Yuen - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li_Ching-YuenPonzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRSHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow us on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like us on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcastFollow me on TikTok for Anti MLM humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFind me on CLUBHOUSE at @therealrobertablevinsBecome a monthly supporter for as little as $.99! https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/support*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos.--- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.