Life After MLM

*This episode contains topics that may be triggering to some listeners, including descriptions of medical procedures, fatphobia, infertility and child loss. Please use discretion when listening.*Hayden was starting her fertility journey when she discovered a clinic just down the street. It was a well known and respected clinic so she didn't see the red flag until she was poking around on their website. But her experience lead her to messaging me, and our conversation opens up even more topics to tackle in 2023; the ethics of medical professionals who support MLMs and the targeting of the vulnerabilities of infertility.Show NotesMLMs & Infertility - https://www.reddit.com/r/antiMLM/comments/qbsmsx/mlm_claims_to_help_infertility_not_sure_how_true/South Park Timeshare - https://southpark.cc.com/video-clips/ervv23/south-park-i-ve-got-a-little-place-in-aspenOut of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Join the Patreon! - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevinsBuy me a Taco and leave a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFollow on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Have you heard of ChatGPT? It's an AI model that chats conversationally. The format makes it possible for the AI to learn, admit mistakes, be challenged, and answer follow up questions. And after being asked so many times over the holidays if I had heard of it or used it, I signed up and gave it a whirl. My conversations with ChatGPT started off with some basic MLM stuff, and quickly descended into me arguing with a robot, so I wanted to share what I learned with you.Show NotesChatGPT - https://openai.com/blog/chatgpt/AI Isn’t Ready to Make Unsupervised Decisions - https://hbr.org/2022/09/ai-isnt-ready-to-make-unsupervised-decisionsOut of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Join the Patreon! - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevinsBuy me a Taco and leave a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFollow on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In 2021 I got an ADHD diagnosis and answered a lot of my own personal burning questions about myself. Why am I so impulsive? Why do I feel like such an imposter? Am I lazy? Ever since that moment, and even before, I have been focused on the unspoken connection between MLMs and Neurodivergent people. How are we targeted? Why do we jump from one to the next? How much lipstick does one really need? So I asked someone who has a lot more knowledge about the subject, Layla Touchet, LPC, NCC, PSC to talk to us about why those of us with ND would be more drawn to MLMs, and how the MLMs use our symptoms to keep us stuck.Show NotesLayla's IG - https://www.instagram.com/theneurodivergentcounselor/ADHD Online - https://adhdonline.com/Understood - https://www.understood.org/ADDitude - https://www.additudemag.com/Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Join the Patreon! - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevinsBuy me a Taco and leave a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFollow on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Happy 2023 Hunbots and Hunbros!We've got lots of new focuses and content for 2023, and I cannot wait to share it all with you! We're starting off the year with an episode filled with hilarious self-awareness as April recounts her MLM journey throughout her entire life. MLM parties as a child? Check! Dopamine addiction fueled by "Kitnapping" MLM after MLM? Check! Crunchy cult pipeline? Check! From Metabolife to Herbalife, April has probably tried it so you don't have to.Show Notes:Metabolife - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MetabolifeKitnapping - https://www.reddit.com/r/antiMLM/comments/8wts2h/i_was_almost_a_victim_of_kitnapping/Paparazzi & Covid - https://www.insideedition.com/paparazzi-accessories-silent-after-at-least-5-die-from-covid-19-following-mlms-convention-lovedOut of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Join the Patreon! - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevinsBuy me a Taco and leave a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFollow on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Happy Holidays Hunbots and Hunbros! Welcome to 8 Days of Holiday Magic, a month of fun content to get us through the end of the year! Each episode was HAND PICKED from YOUR wish list of guest requests! Join us every Sunday and Wednesday for a NEW episode, leading up to 2023!As we finish up 2022, I wanted to take Day 8 of Holiday Magic to tell you the story of Bernie Madoff, who ran the largest Ponzi scheme in history. Not a lot of people know the whole story, some barely recognize the name, but Bernie Madoff wrecked a type of havoc rarely ever seen, that left in it's wake death, destruction and devastation no one ever expected. One of the ULTIMATE ScamFathers, this story is a MUST KNOW for any scheme enthusiast.CW: Death and SuicideShow Notes:Chasing Madoff - https://amzn.to/3OqgD4sThe World's Largest Hedge Fund is a Fraud - https://www.math.nyu.edu/~avellane/madoffmarkopoulos.pdfBernie Madoff Dead - https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/14/business/bernie-madoff-dead.htmlBernie Madoff - https://www.investopedia.com/terms/b/bernard-madoff.aspBernie's Wiki - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_MadoffOut of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Join the Patreon! - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevinsBuy me a Taco and leave a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFollow on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Happy Holidays Hunbots and Hunbros! Welcome to 8 Days of Holiday Magic, a month of fun content to get us through the end of the year! Each episode was HAND PICKED from YOUR wish list of guest requests! Join us every Sunday and Wednesday for a NEW episode, leading up to 2023!*Content Warning : We do talk a bit about the Danny Masterson SA case, as well as other abuses of Scientology. Please use discretion when listening.*Merry Christmas and Happy Hannukah Hunbots and Hunbros! Welcome to Day 7 of Holiday Magic! I am so excited for this chat, because not only is it my first ever Scientology episode, it's with none other than my friend, Mike Rinder! Go big or go home, amirite? In our chat we talk about the early days of Mike's CoS experience, his new book A Billion Years, and what it was like to work under both LRH and the COB. There's so much Scientology speak, you're just going to have to listen.There is an additional AMA with Mike on the Patreon and we get a bit deeper into his thoughts on Scientology, who's more culty and what happened to his and Leah's podcast, Scientology: Fair Game!Show NotesMike on IG - https://www.instagram.com/rindermike/A Billion Years by Mike Rinder - https://amzn.to/3HXBDzDMike's Blog - https://www.mikerindersblog.org/Mike's Twitter - https://twitter.com/MikeRinderMike and Leah's Podcast - https://fairgamepodcast.com/Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Join the Patreon! - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevinsBuy me a Taco and leave a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFollow on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Happy Holidays Hunbots and Hunbros! Welcome to 8 Days of Holiday Magic, a month of fun content to get us through the end of the year! Each episode was HAND PICKED from YOUR wish list of guest requests! Join us every Sunday and Wednesday for a NEW episode, leading up to 2023!One of the biggest groups targeted by MLMs are moms. And the best place to find moms? Facebook Mom Groups. Since I don't have that kind of energy, I enlisted my friend Jess of The Big Weird Mom! And we don't stop at the MLM gossip in the mom groups, because what fun would that be? From hilarious to terrifying, Jess and I chat about the stuff we've both seen from the so-called "mompreneurs" and the new age "momagers" on social media.Show NotesThe Big Weird Mom - https://www.thebigweirdmom.com/Jess's TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@bigweirdmomJess's IG - https://www.instagram.com/thebigweirdmom/#NuggetTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@thebigweirdmom/video/6907331485523594502Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Join the Patreon! - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevinsBuy me a Taco and leave a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFollow on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Happy Holidays Hunbots and Hunbros! Welcome to 8 Days of Holiday Magic, a month of fun content to get us through the end of the year! Each episode was HAND PICKED from YOUR wish list of guest requests! Join us every Sunday and Wednesday for a NEW episode, leading up to 2023!Welcome to Day 5! I am so excited to bring you this chat with my friend Elora Dodd, who you may recognize from her many online personas at the "Online One Room Schoolhouse". She's a powerhouse of comedy, historical oddities and autism education. We talked for over 4 hours and I cut it down to this (there is even more on Patreon!). Not only is Elora a wealth of compassionate information, she's hilarious, so when she wanted to make an episode with me, I jumped at the chance to chat! We cover some basics, and then dive into how MLM's prey on the parents of autistics and the dangers that come with it.Show NotesOur Google Doc to follow along! - https://docs.google.com/document/d/10h18V7euR-nZeYA1dcGkDEURXrHaTayddZMWrY9LpQM/edit?usp=sharingOperation Santa - https://about.usps.com/holidaynews/operation-santa.htmElora's LinkTree - https://linktr.ee/Online1RoomSchoolhouseI am Autism (CW: fearmongering) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UgLnWJFGHQOut of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Join the Patreon! - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevinsBuy me a Taco and leave a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFollow on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Happy Holidays Hunbots and Hunbros! Welcome to 8 Days of Holiday Magic, a month of fun content to get us through the end of the year! Each episode was HAND PICKED from YOUR wish list of guest requests! Join us every Sunday and Wednesday for a NEW episode, leading up to 2023!Day 4 brings us quite a haul! Not only do we chat about some shady stuff a lot of us have been participating in recently, but also news about an MLM closing it's doors and the aftermath of it's victims and how to support them. But then we've got some juicy MLM History, with a scam I hadn't even heard of, so The Shoe Fairy came by to tell us all about it and what she had to do to save her own ass.Show NotesFacebook post RE: Matilda Jane - https://www.facebook.com/anniebeth17/posts/pfbid02d65NEcCWZBhHNF8RzmpjqoT7Sy5HMNU4HjYAEDSNAuH1CRKEZ7jq8K5AKWjL83i4lWhat You Should Know Before Using the Lensa AI App - https://www.wired.com/story/lensa-ai-magic-avatars-security-tips/ampChandra Prescod-Weinstein has advice to help you protect yourself on Lensa - https://twitter.com/IBJIYONGI/status/1599536831045197824To The Nines Scam - https://www.unhappyfranchisee.com/to-the-nines-kenny-davis-iamaa-direct-scam/Kenny Davis Indictment - https://dentonrc.com/kenny-j-davis-2016-to-the-nines-indictment-pdf/pdf_75b8cb6a-150a-56a2-8082-b03443603a7b.htmlOut of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Join the Patreon! - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevinsBuy me a Taco and leave a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFollow on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Happy Holidays Hunbots and Hunbros! Welcome to 8 Days of Holiday Magic, a month of fun content to get us through the end of the year! Each episode was HAND PICKED from YOUR wish list of guest requests! Join us every Sunday and Wednesday for a NEW episode, leading up to 2023!Day 3 of our 8 Days of Holiday Magic brings a chat with Jana Rogers, the owner of Silver Lining Lessons, creators of the Loaded Tea WITHOUT the MLM. You may recognize Jana from her how-to videos, where she teaches people how to make those expensive drinks, without the expensive price tag, with things you can buy at the store down the road. No MLM, or cult joining required. Along the way she's learned quite a bit about Herbalife and their reps, The Holiday Job Scam!Show NotesCareer OneStop - https://www.careeronestop.org/jobsearch/findjobs/state-job-banks.aspxSilver Lining Lessons - https://www.silverlininglessons.com/Jana on IG - https://www.instagram.com/silverlininglessons/Jana on TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@silverlininglessonsThe Hidden Truth of Loaded Teas - https://www.tastingtable.com/822612/the-hidden-truth-of-loaded-teas/Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJbHow can you help?Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.orgYou can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwideSupport the Podcast!Join the Patreon! - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevinsBuy me a Taco and leave a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevinsFollow on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoaFollow on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/Like on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.