

Emotion At Work
Phil Willcox
The Emotion at Work Podcast
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Jan 4, 2023 • 1h 12min
Episode 60 - Emotion at Work in life (and work being part of it)
In this episode, Phil talks about boundaries, identities and different approaches to life. His guest is
Angela Day, a business leader, Head of People, Risk and Compliance at Market Operator Services
Limited (MOSL). MOSL are the market operator for the non-household water retail market in
England and sit at the centre of the water industry.
Angela discusses MOSL's Diversity Society and how they have created an environment for people to
share their experiences to see the world through the eyes of others. This has been designed through
colleague-led discussions that involve the entire organisation. They go on to discuss how permission is one of the aspects developed to lead MOSL, with Angela providing examples of permission at a recent away day and other examples of how permission leadership demonstrates respect and improves buy-in from colleagues.
References and links:
The Chimp Paradox - https://chimpmanagement.com/books-by-professor-steve-peters/the-chimp-
paradox/
Ted Talk by Taiye Selasi – Don’t ask where I’m from, ask where I’m local -
https://www.ted.com/talks/taiye_selasi_don_t_ask_where_i_m_from_ask_where_i_m_a_local?lan
guage=en
Jeremy Clarkson and Megham Markle - https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/pictures/jeremy-clarkson-slammed-for-meghan-markle-comments-what-to-know/
Jia Wang PH.D. - Workplace Incivility: The Silent Epidemic - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X91ZElURMtA
Angela Day – MOSL - https://mosl.co.uk/about/mosl-team/19-angela-day
Angela Day LinkedIn - https://uk.linkedin.com/in/angela-day-a500b68

Jun 30, 2022 • 1h 12min
Episode 59 - Emotion at Work in Boundaries and Burnout
This episode of the Emotion at Work podcast looks at two different topics: boundaries and burnout. My guest in this episode, Kelly Swingler, is a coach, keynote speaker and author who has an array of experience in both topics which have an important role in our overall wellbeing.
Kelly discusses her own personal experience of moving towards burnout, outlines how this had manifested itself in her daily habits and routines, and talks of how this led her to start her own business. Kelly also shares and discusses the available research centred on the impact of burnout on women in the workplace.
References and links:
The packing bags mentioned by Kelly (who says to use them by rolling and flattening!): https://nordace.com/en/product/nordace-siena-compression-packing-cube/
Deloitte Women at Work report: https://www2.deloitte.com/global/en/pages/about-deloitte/articles/women-at-work-global-outlook.html
McKinsey Report: https://www.mckinsey.com/~/media/mckinsey/business%20functions/people%20and%20organizational%20performance/our%20insights/women%20matter/women_matter_oct2008_english.pdf
Burnout podcast episode mentioned by Kelly: https://brenebrown.com/podcast/brene-with-emily-and-amelia-nagoski-on-burnout-and-how-to-complete-the-stress-cycle/
Book mentioned by Kelly: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Burnout-Solve-Your-Stress-Cycle/dp/1785042092/ref=asc_df_1785042092/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=411246918865&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=13366914573765310502&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1006886&hvtargid=pla-862463984579&psc=1&th=1&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=94876264008&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=411246918865&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=13366914573765310502&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1006886&hvtargid=pla-862463984579
Kelly’s book ‘Mind the Gap’: https://www.kellyswingler.com/mindthegap

Apr 8, 2022 • 43min
Episode 58 - Emotion at Work in Self Presentation
In this episode, looking at what can be defined as a sub-category of impression management, Phil turns to inspect the role of self presentation.
As noted in the episode, impression management and self presentation is “a goal-directed, conscious or unconscious attempt to influence the perceptions of others about a person, object, or event by regulating and controlling information in social interaction.”
In the workplace, being able to understand the way that someone is looking to present themselves, and then deducing what their goal may be in presenting themselves this way, can support us in how we build relationships and communicate.
To demonstrate this process, Phil revisits the data set used both in episode 54 and our recent piece of analysis: ‘“Smoking ruin”: failure or hard work? Analysing a real-life example of how people negotiate meaning in context.’ This data set is from Matt Hancock’s interview on Good Morning Britain on the one-year anniversary of the first COVID-19 lockdown.
Works mentioned:
‘“Smoking ruin”: failure or hard work? Analysing a real-life example of how people negotiate meaning in context’: https://community.emotionatwork.co.uk/folders/31
Impression Management in the Workplace: Research, Theory and Practice by Andrew J. DuBrin: https://www.waterstones.com/book/impression-management-in-the-workplace/andrew-j-dubrin/9780415871730
Erving Goffman and framing: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Frame-Analysis-Essay-Organization-Experience/dp/093035091X

Jan 31, 2022 • 1h 3min
Episode 57 - Emotion at Work in Flexible Working
In this episode, I interview Krystal Wilkinson who is a researcher, practitioner, and senior lecturer at the Manchester Metropolitan University
Krystal joins me to discuss flexible working; a very topical and relevant practice which surrounds the present landscape of work. Krystal is keen to challenge the narrative that often sits around flexible working and the preconceived perceptions that many organisations and individual’s hold towards who should be eligible. We look at some of the normative assumptions in organisations around who qualifies for flexible-working, before discussing some of the work-life challenges and dilemmas which are identified and discussed in Krystal’s research.
Your resources for this episode:
Work-life challenges and dilemmas paper: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0950017016677942
Perceptions of fairness paper: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/1748-8583.12181
Perinatal mental health & ‘rhythm intelligent managers’: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/1748-8583.12434
The short blog for CIPD Manchester: https://cipdmanchester.com/2022/01/04/the-potential-of-rhythm-intelligence/
Rouse et al. (2021) – where ‘rhythm intelligence’ came from: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0266242620984739
Gatrell’s (2011) paper on secrecy, silence and supraperformance: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1468-0432.2009.00485.x
Behson (forthcoming) book on ‘whole person workplace’: https://www.scottbehson.com/the-whole-person-workplace
If you want to get in touch with Krystal Wilkinson:
Krystal’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/krystal-wilkinson-0650687a/
Twitter: @DrKrysWilkinson
Krystal’s Email: k.wilkinson@mmu.ac.uk
Learn more about Emotion at Work: https://www.emotionatwork.co.uk
Connect with Phil: https://www.linkedin.com/in/phil-willcox-02013425/
Join the Emotion at Work Community: https://community.emotionatwork.co.uk/signup

Dec 13, 2021 • 31min
Episode 56 - This is how I am feeling - Emotional Wellbeing in the workplace research
We are very excited to be publishing our latest piece of research into Emotional Wellbeing in the workplace.
In our latest research we wanted to find out, from people like you, what are the variables that impact key wellbeing outcomes of the extents to which people:
1. Find pleasure in their work
2. Recently experienced stress about their work
3. Find their work keeps them awake at night
This podcast starts to dive into the detail of our findings which unveil the relationships between these outcomes and the variables we assessed. Where are the overlaps and correlations and where do the findings diverge?
If you want to access the report findings in detail please register here
https://mailchi.mp/emotionatwork/emotional-wellbeing-report
If you want to join the webinar that Phil mentions, you can do that here
https://mailchi.mp/emotionatwork/mailing-list

Dec 1, 2021 • 1h 7min
Episode 55 - Emotion at Work in Remote Leadership
Sumit Gupta, a leadership coach and entrepreneur, delves into the challenges of leading remote and hybrid teams. He emphasizes the importance of instilling trust and psychological safety in the workplace. Sumit shares his ‘soaking in the rain’ leadership metaphor, advocating for curiosity over control. He addresses the role of meetings as connection tools rather than just information exchanges. Additionally, he busts myths about leadership, urging leaders to embrace unpredictability while treating their interpretations as hypotheses.

Nov 5, 2021 • 54min
Episode 54 - Emotion at Work Analysis - Negotiating Meaning in Context
The keen eared listeners out there will realise that this is actually episode 54 not 55. Sorry!!
Here is a link to the data set that we are analysing:
https://youtu.be/fGEUKQroPK0
Here is a link to the Co-operative Principle that I mention at around 5 minutes:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooperative_principle
Here is a link to the community where you can register for FREE to access the full report
https://community.emotionatwork.co.uk/signup
Here is a link to the podcast episode I mention at around 17 minutes on Impoliteness and Banter:
https://emotionatwork.podbean.com/e/episode-29-emotion-at-work-in-banter-impoliteness-and-power/

Sep 24, 2021 • 1h 5min
Episode 53 - Emotion at Work in Interview Techniques
During this episode Phil is joined by Cody Porter, who’s research involves information elicitation and how this aids deception detection. Phil and Cody discuss the role that deception plays in the workplace, from exaggeration and minimisation in job interviews (or on a CV), to corporate fraud and day-to-day lies and omissions.
There’s no Pinocchio’s nose when it comes to detecting deceit. They examine strategies to make life easier for truth tellers, harder for liars and help differentiate between the two.
Cody has recently successfully defended her ‘viva’, which, “is an oral test during which a PhD candidate defends their PhD thesis in front of a panel of examiners” and is now embarking on a new role as a Senior Lecturer at the University of the West of England.
The interview kicks off with Cody giving working definitions of “Deception” and “Truth”, how her research can/is helpful in the workplace and discussing what AIM techniques are. Towards the end of the podcast listen to Cody give advice to help you be effective in interviews or conversations where deception may play a part.
To find out more about Cody you can find her on LinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/cody-porter-469825109 or Twitter on @Cody_N_Porter.
Links and references to the key areas and ideas discussed are below:
DePaulo, B. M., Lindsay, J. J., Malone, B. E., Muhlenbruck, L., Charlton, K., & Cooper, H. (2003). Cues to deception. Psychological bulletin, 129(1), 74.
Harvey, A. C., Vrij, A., Hope, L., Leal, S., & Mann, S. (2017). A stability bias effect among deceivers. Law and human behavior, 41(6), 519.
Porter, C. N., Morrison, E., Fitzgerald, R. J., Taylor, R., & Harvey, A. C. (2020). Lie-detection by Strategy Manipulation: Developing an Asymmetric Information Management (AIM) Technique. Journal of Applied Research in Memory and Cognition, 9(2), 232-241.
Vrij, A. (2008). Detecting lies and deceit: Pitfalls and opportunities. John Wiley & Sons.
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Aug 31, 2021 • 35min
Episode 52 - Emotion at Work in Emotional Sensitivity (aka hot triggers)
Aug 31st, 2021
In this episode, Phil talks about Emotional Sensitivity or more commonly known as Hot Triggers. No guest is featured here but rather it includes targeted questions and reflection times throughout the episode for you as a listener to consider.
The areas of focus are; what shapes hot triggers or emotional sensitivity, how to identify them and signposts strategies to deal with them once identified. There are regular places to pause and reflect with guided questions from Phil.
Looking first at defining emotional sensitivity Phil gives three factors to consider; things that grab easily and/or that grab you hard and/or that you hold on to. These are there to help you identify what your hot triggers may be.
Secondly, Phil introduces four factors that can increase emotional sensitivity; the intensity when the trigger was formed, the number of times it has occurred, how early in life it happened and similarity to the evolutionary theme.
Next, Phil shares some research into why we regulate emotions so we can use that to inform our thinking on how we may be more or less sensitive to triggers.
Finally, Phil brings the podcast to a close and gives some final space for reflection.
Your resources:
Phil mentions the related podcast episodes
https://emotionatwork.podbean.com/e/episode-37-special-edition-a-focus-on-emotion/
https://emotionatwork.podbean.com/e/episode-27-emotion-at-work-in-emotion-regulation/
https://emotionatwork.podbean.com/e/episode-25-emotion-at-work-in-emotional-exploitation/
https://emotionatwork.podbean.com/e/episode-24-emotion-at-work-in-emotional-intelligence/
He also talk about appraisal theory and here is a link to a fab article that gives a headline overview of the different (psychology-based) theories of emotion.
https://www.verywellmind.com/theories-of-emotion-2795717
A fantastic paper summarising emotional labour, dipping into emotional sensitivity & signposts to other research too
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Sander-Koole-4/publication/240236228_The_psychology_of_emotion_regulation_An_integrative_review/links/6047980c299bf1e0786933a6/The-psychology-of-emotion-regulation-An-integrative-review.pdf
This open access chapter gives a good summary of the three orients of emotion regulation
https://people.socsci.tau.ac.il/mu/galsheppes/files/2014/10/2011-3.pdf
This is Paul Ekman’s book that Phil refers to
https://www.paulekman.com/resources/books/amp/

Jul 27, 2021 • 54min
Episode 51 - Emotion at Work in Body Difference
How we think or feel about ourselves and how we want others to feel about us can be manifested in the way that we look. Some aspects about how we look, for example how we style our clothes, hair or accessories are within our control. Other aspects, for example, our height or the shape of our skeleton, the size of our feet or hands are aspects about which we cannot control (without clinical intervention).
Body difference and physical appearance are two areas that my guest, Denise Sanderson has trained in and is an advocate for as you will hear in this episode. Denise is someone that I hugely value in the HR world and she often gets me thinking and so it was a great opportunity to get her on to the podcast.
Some of the things that Denise shares that really got me thinking include:
Is body difference and how someone looks a detriment to their chances of securing jobs or promotion?
What are the links between body difference and racism?
How has COVID helped and hindered those who have physical differences to the 'norm'?
We go onto discussing how our physical appearance(s) shape how we (and others) feel about ourselves and how we feel about others.
What I really enjoyed about this podcast is the natural discussion we had and it made me think about things that I had not considered before. I found Denise to be really engaging and here is a large amount of research and evidence that informs her thinking (and is shared below).
Your links and references to the key areas and ideas we discussed are below:
Changing the Perfect Picture: an inquiry into body image, Women & Equalities Commision - https://committees.parliament.uk/work/226/changing-the-perfect-picture-an-inquiry-into-body-image/publications/
https://www.uwe.ac.uk/research/centres-and-groups/appearance (Didn’t quote this org, but should have)
Fearing the Black Body: The Racial Origins of Fat Phobia, Sabrina Strings (See Body Positive references below)
Body Happy Kids, Molly Forbes of Body Happy Org https://www.bodyhappyorg.com/
Some supporting charities:
BEAT: beateatingdisorders.org.uk Twitter: @beatED
Mind: mind.org.uk Twitter: @MindCharity
Changing Faces: https://www.changingfaces.org.uk/ Twitter: @FaceEquality
Denise's blogs:
http://damsonbelle.blogspot.com/2020/05/more-than-month-of-memes.html
http://damsonbelle.blogspot.com/2020/08/the-seven-stages-of-body-confidence.html
HR articles:
https://www.personneltoday.com/hr/fattism-at-work-is-still-a-prevalent-problem/ containing...
https://www.personneltoday.com/hr/obesity-research-fattism-is-the-last-bastion-of-employee-discrimination/
https://www.peoplemanagement.co.uk/experts/legal/lookism-forgotten-workplace-inequality#gref
Mental Health Awareness Week, 2019:
https://www.mentalhealth.org.uk/publications/body-image-report
The salary impact:
https://www.socsci.uci.edu/newsevents/news/2018/2018-06-07-penner-patch.php
https://www.glamourmagazine.co.uk/article/women-who-wear-makeup-get-paid-more
https://www.theguardian.com/money/shortcuts/2015/apr/29/do-tall-people-really-deserve-to-earn-more
https://www.forbes.com/sites/traversmark/2020/04/16/your-height-has-a-big-impact-on-your-salary-new-research-seeks-to-understand-why/?sh=8a7846d1071f
Check out on social media:
A few additional references (I think) I made
Lindo Bacon
Natasha Devon
#HAES
#BodyConfidence
Other articles:
Body Positivity’s history - https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/articles/z2w7dp3
Black and Body Positive - https://zenerations.org/2020/08/21/the-black-history-of-the-body-positive-movement/
Bonus: Denise's alternative view on BMI, as she calls it a “Bullshit Measuring Index” - BMI (referenced as an issue in the W&EC report…)
https://www.everydayhealth.com/diet-nutrition/bmi/bmi-flaws-history-other-ways-measure-body-weight/
https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/health/diet-nutrition/a35047103/bmi-racist-history/
https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=106268439&t=1626816486552
More from Denise:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/denisesanderson/?originalSubdomain=uk
Twitter: @_BodyConfidence or @DamsonHR
Instagram: bodyconfidencecards_db
Facebook group: Body Confidence Card Club
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