

How to Save the World | The Psychology & Science of Environmental Behavior
Katie Patrick
What *really* gets people to take action for the planet? Environmental engineer and designer, Katie Patrick, takes you on a wild intellectual journey into the heart of the environmental psyche, exploring the latest evidence-based behavioral science you can use to get more people to adopt your climate or environmental campaign. Get Katie's secret climate action design tips to make it happen at https://helloworlde.com/actiontips. Warning: For deep sustainability nerds only 🤓🌏.
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Aug 10, 2022 • 26min
Everyone Misses This: Passing The "Action Design Threshold" Ep38
This podcast discusses the importance of prioritizing real-life action in making a tangible impact on the environment. It emphasizes the need to gather people who share the same vision and work towards a common goal. The challenges of marketing a rooftop heat map project for energy conservation are also explored. Additionally, the podcast promotes the Imagine project and a climate action design masterclass for supporters.

Aug 1, 2022 • 1h 27min
Bird Call Audio As A Game For Citizen Science, Jessie Oliver, PhD Ep36
Do you ever hear animals you never see? Secretive and rare animals, such as Eastern bristlebirds, can be most easily found by the sounds that they make. We can only do this, however, if we learn how to decipher their calls!
In her PhD research, Jessie is exploring how to design future technologies that support people in becoming familiar with identifying bird calls from audio recordings. Birders and members of the public explored Jessie’s research prototypes, such as the Bristle Whistle Challenge. Conservationists and members of the public are likely to benefit from having enticing tools that include creative playful and task-oriented gameful interactions with bird calls. Such tools may support many people, whether learning calls for fun, or to support citizen science, ecology, or wildlife conservation efforts.
Jessie mentions these apps:
Fold IT - Protein folding game https://fold.it/
Zooniverse - https://www.zooniverse.org/
Rorshak ink blot test - http://rorschachinkblottest.com/
e-Bird app - https://ebird.org/about/ebird-mobile/
Frog ID - https://www.frogid.net.au/
I-Naturalist - https://www.inaturalist.org/
Otter-AI - https://otter.ai/
Cornel Lab of bird sounds - https://www.birds.cornell.edu/home/
Xeno Canto bird sounds - https://xeno-canto.org/
Cat Tracker - https://cattracker.org/cat-tracker/
Eco-Acoustics Researcher, Bernie Krause https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Bernie-Krause
Learn more about Jessie’s PhD and broader research here https://orcid.org/0000-0002-3464-0247 and email or connect via Twitter https://twitter.com/JessieLOliver for paper access.
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How to Save the World is a Podcast About the Psychology of What Gets People To Take On Sustainable Behavior and Climate Action: Environmental engineer, designer, and author, Katie Patrick, hunts down the latest behavioral science literature from top universities such as Harvard, MIT, and Stanford to unearth the evidence-based teachings you can use to get magnitudes more people to adopt your environmental campaign, program, or product. Sign up for Katie's free behavior and gamification design course at http://katiepatrick.com
Get a copy of How to Save the World on Amazon
Join my masterclass training in climate action design for $25 / month http://katiepatrick.com/gamifytheplanet
This podcast is supported by our friends at Earth Hacks who run environmental hackathons, Conservation X Labs who promote community-driven open tech development for conservation, and Climate Designers - a network of designers who use their creative skills for climate action.
Contribute a monthly donation to the How to Save the World podcast at patreon.com/katiepatrick
Follow on Twitter @katiepatrick, Instagram @katiepatrickhello, and LinkedIn
Book a 90-minute Idea Storming Call with Katie: https://calendly.com/katiepatrick/idea-storm

Jul 25, 2022 • 24min
How To Write Your Power Sentence - Tips for Impact, Engagement, & Growth Ep35
Does your website, pitch deck, and marketing material ACTUALLY explain what you do, clearly? Or is it a confusing word salad of environmental world-saving generalities? Remember this phrase: "If you confuse, you lose." In my experience, most climate and environmental projects struggle to simply explain what they do. In this episode, I explain how to write a "power sentence" in three easy steps so anyone can immediately "get it."
You need to follow the steps to write this power sentence because clarity is what creates the emotional connection with your audience. It's what will get people to fall in love with your project and want to sign up, donate, join, purchase, and share - because they instantly understand what it is.
We'll also learn how to use the basic framework of The Hero's Journey to write a single paragraph that will hook people in to your story and tip and tricks on how to write better.
Clear succinct copywriting is the secret to growing your movement.
How to Save the World is a Podcast About the Psychology of What Gets People To Take On Sustainable Behavior and Climate Action: Environmental engineer, designer, and author, Katie Patrick, hunts down the latest behavioral science literature from top universities such as Harvard, MIT, and Stanford to unearth the evidence-based teachings you can use to get magnitudes more people to adopt your environmental campaign, program, or product. Sign up for Katie's free behavior and gamification design course at http://katiepatrick.com
Get a copy of How to Save the World on Amazon
Join my masterclass training in climate action design for $25 / month http://katiepatrick.com/gamifytheplanet
This podcast is supported by our friends at Earth Hacks who run environmental hackathons, Conservation X Labs who promote community-driven open tech development for conservation, and Climate Designers - a network of designers who use their creative skills for climate action.
Contribute a monthly donation to the How to Save the World podcast at patreon.com/katiepatrick
Follow on Twitter @katiepatrick, Instagram @katiepatrickhello, and LinkedIn
Book a 90-minute Idea Storming Call with Katie: https://calendly.com/katiepatrick/idea-storm

Jul 4, 2022 • 1h 13min
Using AR & GIS to Imagine A Radical Eco Makeover of Your Street with Sebastian Schlecht + Robin Roemer Ep34
Imagine using augmented reality outdoors on a real city street to re-imagine the street and buildings around you covered in plants, trees, green walls, cars-free - or whatever your eco-future imagination can dream up.
Our guests today are Sebastian Schlecht and Robin Roemer. Sebastian is an architect from Germany who co-founded the Lala Ruhr project - an urban design lab that re-imagines cities with biophilic nature-based solutions. Robin is the co-founder of the software startup CityScaper which specializes in augmented reality and urban planning.
Sebastian and Robin got together and created this world-first AR project where people could hold up an iPad or iPhone and see a greenified ecotopia version of the street they were on - and they could even design their own.
This style of augmented reality is that it’s embedded into a streetscape’s geo coordinates - and that requires creating a 3D model of the street and geolocating the ecological design to fit with the exact location where the user is standing.
We’ll be taking a deep dive into the tech stack that includes Lidar, GIS, and Google AR Core, with Robin about 20 mins in.
Connect with Sebastian and Robin on LinkedIn:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/sebastian-schlecht-fromgreytogreen/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/robin-roemer/
The Lala Ruhr Lab https://www.lala.ruhr/en/start-en/
City Scaper https://ar-gument.de/
How to Save the World is a Podcast About the Psychology of What Gets People To Take On Sustainable Behavior and Climate Action: Environmental engineer, designer, and author, Katie Patrick, hunts down the latest behavioral science literature from top universities such as Harvard, MIT, and Stanford to unearth the evidence-based teachings you can use to get magnitudes more people to adopt your environmental campaign, program, or product. Sign up for Katie's free behavior and gamification design course at http://katiepatrick.com
Get a copy of How to Save the World on Amazon
Join my private masterclass in climate action design for $25 / month http://katiepatrick.com/gamifytheplanet
This podcast is supported by our friends at Earth Hacks who run environmental hackathons, Conservation X Labs who promote community-driven open tech development for conservation, and Climate Designers - a network of designers who use their creative skills for climate action.
Contribute a monthly donation to the How to Save the World podcast at patreon.com/katiepatrick
Follow on Twitter @katiepatrick, Instagram @katiepatrickhello, and LinkedIn
Book a 90-minute Idea Storming Call with Katie: https://calendly.com/katiepatrick/idea-storm

Mar 22, 2022 • 1h 16min
Astronauts, The Overview Effect, And Ecological Transcendence, Anaïs Voşki, Stanford Ep33
We talk with environmental psychologist Anaïs Voşki. She's a researcher at Stanford University studying the effect that seeing the Earth from space has on astronauts' climate change attitudes and their sustainable lifestyles back on Earth. Her recent published research paper is titled “The Ecological Significance of The Overview Effect: Environmental Attitudes and Behaviours in Astronauts.”
The Overview Effect is an experience whereby people, especially astronauts, increase their environmental concern when viewing the Earth as a singular object from space. The Overview Effect is credited with not only influencing astronauts directly but also as being a keystone moment in cultivating the modern environmental movement.
Before the first moon landing in 1969, no photograph of the Earth had existed. These first photographs of Earth, coined the "pale blue dot," are thought to have elicited a new kind of environmental connection that had not existed before.
Anaïs and I talk about the deeper experience of ecological transcendence that is embodied in The Overview Effect and how it could be applied to the practical design of encouraging more climate action and sustainable behaviors in the wider public.
Read the paper: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0272494420300517
Connect with Anaïs Voşki on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/anaisvoski/
How to Save the World is a Podcast About the Psychology of What Gets People To Take On Sustainable Behavior and Climate Action: Environmental engineer, designer, and author, Katie Patrick, hunts down the latest behavioral science literature from top universities such as Harvard, MIT, and Stanford to unearth the evidence-based teachings you can use to get magnitudes more people to adopt your environmental campaign, program, or product. Sign up for Katie's free behavior and gamification design course at http://katiepatrick.com
Get a copy of How to Save the World on Amazon
This podcast is supported by our friends at Earth Hacks who run environmental hackathons, Conservation X Labs who promote community-driven open tech development for conservation, and Climate Designers - a network of designers who use their creative skills for climate action.
Contribute a monthly donation to the How to Save the World podcast at patreon.com/katiepatrick
Follow on Twitter @katiepatrick, Instagram @katiepatrickhello, and LinkedIn
Book a 90-minute Idea Storming Call with Katie: https://calendly.com/katiepatrick/idea-storm

Feb 15, 2022 • 26min
Brain in A Nutshell 79 Part 2: The Latest Environmental Psychology Research Findings, Part 2 Ep32
In this episode, Katie talks through the latest published research from The Journal of Environmental Psychology Issue 79. She explains the psychological concepts and behavioral science principles in the studies and shares her thoughts on how they can be practicably applied to real-life programs, startups, and campaigns.
1:17 Self Contol Skills Are More Important to Eco-Behaviors Than How Much People Care About the Planet Paper: When and how pro-environmental attitudes turn into behavior: The role of costs, benefits, and self-control
6:12 People Have No Idea of the Climate Impact of Various Behaviors And Meat is the Big Ticket CO2 Item Paper: Knowledge, perceived potential and trust as determinants of low- and high-impact pro-environmental behaviours
12:48 You Need to Tell People "**Everyone Else Around You** Supports Renewable Energy Policy" Paper: Effects of perceived social norms on support for renewable energy transition: Moderation by national culture and environmental risks
16:05 Practicing Gratitude for Nature Will Help You Do More Eco Behaviors Paper: Gratitude to nature: Presenting a theory of its conceptualization, measurement, and effects on pro-environmental behavior
19:54 Imagining Yourself Being Old Makes People Take Better Care of the Planet Now Paper: Enhancing environmental resource sustainability by imagining oneself in the future 23:01 Making People Feel Proud AND/OR Making People Feel Guilty About Their Eco-Behaviors Works Paper: Pride and guilt predict pro-environmental behavior: A meta-analysis of correlational and experimental evidence
The Journal of Environmental Psychology Issue 79 February 2022 https://www.sciencedirect.com/journal/journal-of-environmental-psychology/vol/79/suppl/C
The Journal of Environmental Psychology is the premier journal in the field, serving individuals in a wide range of disciplines who have an interest in the scientific study of the transactions and interrelationships between people and their surroundings (including built, social, natural and virtual environments, the use and abuse of nature and natural resources, and sustainability-related behavior). The journal publishes internationally contributed empirical studies and systematic reviews and meta-analyses of research on these topics that advance new insights.
Sign up to katiepatrick.com for my free video course on environmental gamification and behavior design.
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Book a 90-minute idea-storming call with me. I'll listen to your mission over Zoom and share everything I know on how you can apply behavior design, gamification, storytelling, social marketing, and movement building to your project - and any novel ideas I think up along the way. https://buy.stripe.com/8wM8yS92c0mg1q07ss

Feb 8, 2022 • 36min
Brain in a Nutshell 79 Part 1: The Latest Environmental Psychology Research Findings, Part 1 Ep31
In this episode, Katie talks through the latest published research from The Journal of Environmental Psychology Issue 79. She explains the psychological concepts and behavioral science principles in the studies and shares her thoughts on how the findings can be practicably applied to real-life programs, startups, and campaigns.
2:19: People Who Care About Other People, Also Care About the Planet Paper: Self-construals and environmental values in 55 cultures
4:37: Do This To A Menu and All the Meat-Eaters Will Order Vegan Paper: Menu design approaches to promote sustainable vegetarian food choices when dining out
8:26: When Packaging Design Cues An Environmental Action Paper: A meaningful reminder on sustainability: When explicit and implicit packaging cues meet
10.09 Quirky Novel Actions LIke Using Soap Nuts Can Break Other Bad Eco-Habits Paper: Doing Laundry With Biodegradable Soap Nuts: Can Rare and Novel Habits Break Bad Habitual Patterns?
15:26 Personal Experience of Climate Disaster Makes People Support Climate Change Mitigation Paper: Exploring how climate change subjective attribution, personal experience with extremes, concern, and subjective knowledge relate to pro-environmental attitudes and behavioral intentions in the United States
18:18 Telling People It's Eco-Friendly Doesn't Really Work Paper: The Limited Impact of Positive Cueing on Pro-Environmental Choices
20:46 Being Rich and Able to Consider Long Term Future Helps to Consider the Planet Socioeconomic status, time preferences and pro-environmentalism
23:45 How To Stop People Flaking Out (Moral LIscencing) After They Do a Few Good Deeds Paper: Regulatory focus and self-licensing dynamics: A motivational account of behavioural consistency and balancing
How to Save the World is a Podcast About the Psychology of What Gets People To Take On Sustainable Behavior and Climate Action. Environmental engineer, designer, and author, Katie Patrick, hunts down the latest behavioral science literature from top universities such as Harvard, MIT, and Stanford to unearth the evidence-based teachings you can use to get magnitudes more people to adopt your environmental campaign, program, or product. Sign up for Katie's free behavior and gamification design course at katiepatrick.com
Get a copy of How to Save the World on Amazon This podcast is supported by our friends at Earth Hacks who run environmental hackathons, Conservation X Labs who promote community-driven open tech development for conservation, and Climate Designers - a network of designers who use their creative skills for climate action. You might enjoy joining their communities and events.
Book a 90-minute idea-storming call with me where I'll share everything I know on how you can apply behavior design, gamification, storytelling, social marketing, and movement building to your project - and any novel ideas I think up along the way. https://buy.stripe.com/8wM8yS92c0mg1q07ss

Feb 1, 2022 • 53min
Group Competition Drives Sustainable Action + The Social Dilemma with Assistant Professor Laila Nockur, PhD Ep30
This episode is about testing if putting people into groups and asking them to compete towards an environmental goal works to get the group members to increase their environmental behavior, compared to asking people as individuals can often fail to get people to take the action. Group competition (like we see in sport) is a powerful psychological mechanism that has been largely untapped by the sustainability profession and it could be harnessed to reach our climate goals.
Our guest today is Assistant Professor Laila Nockur Ph.D. from Aarhus University in Denmark. She recently published a paper titled “Fostering Sustainable Behavior Through Group Competition.” She specializes in the study of the "social dilemma." It's a tricky incentive problem that plagues most environmental change missions. A social dilemma means that to do something for the greater good (which ultimately helps everyone), each individual person has to make a personal sacrifice. These problems all involve an "environmental commons" - a resource we all share like the air, climate, streets, oceans, and forests. Laila's research shows how we can override the vexing problem of the social dilemma by putting people into groups and asking groups to compete against one another to reach an environmental goal.
Read the paper, Fostering sustainable behavior through group competition https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0272494419305742
How to Save the World is a Podcast About the Psychology of What Gets People To Take On Sustainable Behavior and Climate Action.
Environmental engineer, designer, and author, Katie Patrick, hunts down the latest behavioral science literature from top universities such as Harvard, MIT, and Stanford to unearth the evidence-based teachings you can use to get magnitudes more people to adopt your environmental campaign, program, or product. Sign up for Katie's free behavior and gamification design course at katiepatrick.com
Get a copy of How to Save the World on Amazon
This podcast is supported by our friends at Earth Hacks who run environmental hackathons, Conservation X Labs who promote community-driven open tech development for conservation, and Climate Designers - a network of designers who use their creative skills for climate action. You might enjoy joining their communities and events.
Contribute a monthly donation at patreon.com/katiepatrick
Follow on Twitter @katiepatrick, Instagram @katiepatrickhello, and LinkedIn
Book a 90-minute idea-storming call with me where I'll share everything I know on how you can apply behavior design, gamification, storytelling, social marketing, and movement building to your project - and any novel ideas I think up along the way. https://buy.stripe.com/8wM8yS92c0mg1q07ss

Jan 1, 2022 • 51min
The Neuroscience of Climate Doom vs Climate Solutions, Professor Joshua Carlson PhD Ep29
Have you ever had a hunch that scary or negative images of climate change could turn people away or cause them to shut down? This is what professor Joshua Carlson from North Michigan University has been studying in his cognitive science lab.
Environmental communications has often used "negative" images such as drought, fire, melting glaciers, pollution, or deforestation. However, we also use "positive" images that show solutions such as solar panels, green roofs, or wind turbines.
Joshua's research tested the effect that positive (solutions-oriented) images and negative (problem-orientated) images had on people's attention and cognition. In this episode, he'll be sharing his insights on how negative climate images were found to slow attention and cause a "freezing" effect which has serious implications for how we communicate about climate change.
How to Save the World is a Podcast About the Psychology of What Gets People To Take On Sustainable Behavior and Climate Action.
Environmental engineer, designer, and author, Katie Patrick, hunts, down the latest behavioral science literature from top universities such as Harvard, MIT, and Stanford to unearth the evidence-based teachings you can use to get magnitudes more people to adopt your environmental campaign, program, or product. Sign up for Katie's free behavior and gamification design course at katiepatrick.com
Get a copy of How to Save the World on Amazon
This podcast is supported by our friends at Earth Hacks who run environmental hackathons, Conservation X Labs who promote community-driven open tech development for conservation, and Climate Designers - a network of designers who use their creative skills for climate action. You might enjoy joining their communities and events.
Contribute a monthly donation at patreon.com/katiepatrick to help me continue to make these episodes possible. Thank you to Jordan, Nader, Mike, Gary, Alex, Ben, Dee, and Ian for contributing! Xx
Follow on Twitter @katiepatrick, Instagram @katiepatrickhello, and LinkedIn
Book a 90-minute idea-storming call with me where I'll share everything I know on how you can apply behavior design, gamification, storytelling, social marketing, and movement building to your project - and any novel ideas I think up along the way. https://buy.stripe.com/8wM8yS92c0mg1q07ss

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Dec 1, 2021 • 1h 17min
The Real Psychology Behind Why We Make Environmental Changes, Professor Florian Kaiser PhD Ep28
You’ve probably heard people say that "You just need to make (an environmentally polluting thing) expensive." Monetary incentives DO work to motivate people, but how much and for how long? And are there other more effective ways to change behavior than literally paying people to go green?
In this episode, I speak with professor Florian Kaiser. He’s a former Co-Chief-Editor Journal of Environmental Psychology; Professor of Personality and Social Psychology; Otto-von-Guericke University; in Germany and he’s published many many papers on how environmental attitude influences behavior (which aren’t always the same thing) and some of the less obvious difficulties in getting financial incentives work to drive pro-environmental behavior.
Professor Kaiser explains the deeper nuances of how attitude drives behavior from his research into The Campbell Effect. We explore why the value-action gap can be untrue, and how sustainability program designers can't isolate a single behavior out of the context of a person's wider environmental value system. Behavioral nudges, gamification, and incentives work, but they work best on people with high environmental attitudes - and with an environmentally attuned audience, the behaviors will stick long term. His insights illustrate that we can't short-change the development of a person's deeper environmental attitude and jump straight to simple behavioral incentives if we want to achieve deep and permanent social change.
Professor Kaiser's LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/fgkaiser/
Professor Kaiser's Published Research https://www.ipsy.ovgu.de/ipsy/en/fgk-path-980,1404,31,196-p-210.html
Get a copy of How to Save the World on Amazon
This podcast is supported by our friends at Earth Hacks who run environmental hackathons, Conservation X Labs who promote community-driven open tech development for conservation, and Climate Designers - a network of designers who use their creative skills for climate action. You might enjoy joining their communities and events.
Sign up to katiepatrick.com for my free video course on environmental gamification and behavior design.
Follow me on Twitter @katiepatrick, Instagram @katiepatrickhello, and LinkedIn
Contribute a monthly donation at patreon.com/katiepatrick to help me continue to make these episodes possible.
Thank you to Jordan, Nader, Mike, Gary, Alex, Ben, Dee, and Ian for contributing! Xx
Book a 90-minute idea-storming call with me: https://buy.stripe.com/8wM8yS92c0mg1q07ss


