

Firing Line with Margaret Hoover
Firing Line With Margaret Hoover
Author, feminist, gay rights activist and political commentator Margaret Hoover leads a rigorous exchange of ideas with America’s political and cultural newsmakers. In the spirit of William F. Buckley Jr.’s iconic “Firing Line,” Hoover engages with thought leaders on the pivotal issues moving the nation forward. New podcast episodes drop weekly, and sometimes more, featuring bonus content you won’t hear on TV.
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Feb 12, 2022 • 27min
NBA player Enes Kanter Freedom speaks out against China and the Beijing Olympics
Just 24 hours before being traded from the Boston Celtics to the Houston Rockets and released from the roster, NBA center Enes Kanter Freedom tells Margaret Hoover he suspects the league is trying to silence him for speaking out against human rights abuses in China.
A newly naturalized American citizen, Kanter Freedom has been increasingly vocal about the oppression of his fellow Muslims in the Xinjiang province of China and the failure of the NBA and its corporate sponsors to use their influence to combat what the U.S. government has declared a genocide.
Kanter Freedom, who grew up in Turkey, details his initial activism against President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and how it impacted his family who remain there and left him fearful of arrest if he ever returns. He recalls how he learned of the plight of the Uyghurs, explains why he felt it was important for him to speak out on their behalf, and defends his call for athletes to boycott the 2022 Winter Olympics in Beijing.
He also reflects on his public tensions with Los Angeles Lakers star LeBron James, his clash with Nike, and the possibility that this season could be his “farewell tour” in the NBA.
Support for “Firing Line for Margaret Hoover” is provided by Stephens Inc., Robert Granieri, Charles R. Schwab, The Fairweather Foundation, Asness Family Foundation, Pfizer Inc., Craig Newmark Philanthropies, The Rosalind P. Walter Foundation, and Damon Button.

Feb 5, 2022 • 37min
Secretary of the Smithsonian Lonnie Bunch on the challenges of preserving America’s history
Secretary of the Smithsonian Lonnie Bunch joins Margaret Hoover at the start of Black History Month for a discussion on the importance of studying a complete history and his continued work to preserve the American story for the next generation.
Bunch is the Smithsonian’s 14th secretary and is the first Black leader and the first historian to oversee the world’s largest museum, education and research institution.
As founding director, he was the driving force behind the creation of the Smithsonian’s National Museum of African American History and Culture. He describes in vivid detail the power of receiving some of the artifacts, including objects from the life of abolitionist Harriet Tubman.
Bunch discusses his personal story, the role museums should play in society and the challenge of contextualizing complex and, often, dark history.
He also reacts to President Biden’s commitment to nominating a Black woman for the Supreme Court and tells Hoover what gives him hope for the future.
Support for “Firing Line for Margaret Hoover” is provided by Stephens Inc., Robert Granieri, Charles R. Schwab, The Fairweather Foundation, Asness Family Foundation, Pfizer Inc., Craig Newmark Philanthropies, The Rosalind P. Walter Foundation, and Damon Button.

Jan 29, 2022 • 1h 2min
‘We've got to change the game’: Success Academy CEO Eva Moskowitz defends charter schools
Success Academy CEO Eva Moskowitz joins Margaret Hoover to discuss the problems with education in America and her ideas to fix it.
Moskowitz, who served as a Democrat in the New York City Council, founded a network of charter schools that has grown to include 20,000 students at 47 schools.
She has taken on the teachers unions, a position that puts her at odds with her own party line. She is also an advocate for school choice — which more often is a Republican priority.
Moskowitz responds to some of her high-profile critics, including actor Matt Damon, who namechecked her during an 2011 interview in which he criticized the charter school model.
She also discusses the challenge of teaching during the pandemic and weighs in on the education reform policies she would like to see from new New York City Mayor Eric Adams and New York Gov. Kathy Hochul.
Support for “Firing Line for Margaret Hoover” is provided by Stephens Inc., Robert Granieri, Charles R. Schwab, The Fairweather Foundation, Asness Family Foundation, Pfizer Inc., Craig Newmark Philanthropies, The Rosalind P. Walter Foundation, and Damon Button.

Jan 22, 2022 • 52min
Former PepsiCo CEO Indra Nooyi explains why corporations can’t solve all of society’s problems
Former PepsiCo CEO Indra Nooyi joins Margaret Hoover to discuss the future of the workplace, the care economy and the role companies should play in addressing problems in society.
Nooyi, who has written a new memoir My Life in Full: Work, Family, and our Future, talks about her childhood in India, her decision to come to the United States and her rise up the corporate ladder.
She describes her personal struggle to juggle work and family and her professional struggle to push the soda-and-snack giant toward more sustainable products, including healthier options and packaging that does less damage to the environment.
She joined PepsiCo in 1994 and became the 11th female Fortune 500 CEO when she took the helm in 2006. She says that big corporations need to find a more “judicious balance” between shareholder and stakeholder interests.
Support for “Firing Line for Margaret Hoover” is provided by Stephens Inc., Robert Granieri, Charles R. Schwab, The Fairweather Foundation, Asness Family Foundation, Pfizer Inc., Craig Newmark Philanthropies, The Rosalind P. Walter Foundation, and Damon Button.

Jan 15, 2022 • 1h
CNN anchor Fareed Zakaria: Elements of the GOP are ‘actively undermining’ democracy
CNN anchor, Washington Post columnist and author Fareed Zakaria discusses his latest book, Ten Lessons for a Post-Pandemic World, assessing where the U.S. response has fallen short under both the Trump and Biden administrations and defining what he views as the long-term consequences.
Zakaria also analyzes current threats to democracy at home and abroad, including the build-up of Russian troops along the border of Ukraine and what he says would be a “red line” for military intervention.
As a young conservative at Yale University, Zakaria invited original Firing Line host William F. Buckley Jr. to campus to debate Sen. George McGovern in 1984 and was later a guest on Buckley’s program. He reflects on their relationship, the state of the current Republican Party and his own political journey toward the left.
Zakaria also engages in a spirited back-and-forth with current host Margaret Hoover about the legacy of her great-grandfather, former President Herbert Hoover.
Support for “Firing Line for Margaret Hoover” is provided by Stephens Inc., Robert Granieri, Charles R. Schwab, The Fairweather Foundation, Asness Family Foundation, Pfizer Inc., Craig Newmark Philanthropies, The Rosalind P. Walter Foundation, and Damon Button.

Jan 8, 2022 • 32min
Jan. 6 Committee Republican Adam Kinzinger says some in GOP ‘instigated’ the riot
Illinois Republican Rep. Adam Kinzinger—an Air Force veteran and one of just two GOP lawmakers on the House select committee investigating the January 6 attack—reflects on the threats to democracy he witnessed that day and the questions the committee is attempting to answer.
Kinzinger hid in his office for six hours during the siege with his gun on his desk, fearing that he may be targeted as one of the only Republicans who congratulated President-elect Biden and rejected the false claims of election fraud promoted by President Trump.
He says that the committee is interviewing hundreds of sources to connect the dots about what led to the deadly violence a year ago this week, but adds that many questions remain unanswered, including who the president talked to, what members of Congress knew, how foreign governments may have been involved and who funded the attacks.
While he criticizes Democrats, it’s his opposition to Trump that has made him an enemy to many in his own party. Kinzinger has decided not to seek re-election after Democratic gerrymandering pit him against a more conservative Republican. He predicts that the GOP will win back the House in 2022, but warns that it will be “chaotic to govern” and could promote the message that “Trumpism works.”
Support for “Firing Line for Margaret Hoover” is provided by Stephens Inc., Robert Granieri, Charles R. Schwab, The Fairweather Foundation, Asness Family Foundation, Pfizer Inc., The Rosalind P. Walter Foundation, and Damon Button.

Dec 18, 2021 • 41min
‘Doing God’s work’: Dana Canedy on telling her family’s story in ‘A Journal for Jordan’
Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist and Simon & Schuster publisher Dana Canedy shares a personal story of love, loss and resilience that inspired her best-selling book and now the Denzel Washington-directed film “A Journal for Jordan.”
Canedy gave her fiancé, First Sergeant Charles Monroe King, a journal to write to their unborn son before his deployment to Iraq. King was able to meet their son but was killed by an IED when Jordan was just six months old. King wrote hundreds of pages in the journal to their child, which Canedy describes as reflections on the power of prayer, how to choose a wife, and how to live an honorable life.
Canedy discusses her hands-on role throughout the movie's filming and says both she and Denzel Washington believe faith is the driving force behind the production. She says Washington told her he was “called by God” to make it.
One of the most powerful women in publishing, Canedy stood up to criticism about a Simon & Schuster book deal for Vice President Mike Pence's memoir. Speaking generally about the industry, Canedy says canceling a book should be "last resort." She says it’s important to listen to those we disagree with and that “an echo chamber is one of the most dangerous things that we can tune into.”
Support for “Firing Line for Margaret Hoover” is provided by Stephens Inc., Robert Granieri, Charles R. Schwab, The Fairweather Foundation, Asness Family Foundation, Pfizer Inc., The Rosalind P. Walter Foundation, and Damon Button.

Dec 11, 2021 • 37min
Chris Christie lays out his ‘Republican Rescue’ plan and blames Trump for giving him COVID
Republican Chris Christie discusses his new book about why the GOP needs to renounce conspiracy theories — including Trump's election fraud lies — in order to win again.
The former New Jersey Governor, who spent a week in intensive care fighting COVID-19, responds to new reporting that President Trump tested positive the day Christie started prepping him for the presidential debate — and neither Trump nor Chief of Staff Mark Meadows told him.
When asked if he now believes Trump infected him, Christie says, “I think it’s undeniable." He also calls Meadows' actions “inexcusable.”
When pressed as to why Christie doesn’t include Tucker Carlson’s spreading of misinformation on Fox News in his new book "Republican Rescue," Christie says, “That is not what the book is about.” Hoover pushes back, “Yes, it was about shutting down the conspiracy theorists on our side.”
Despite his criticisms of Trump, Christie would not rule out supporting Trump in 2024. But Christie also says he would be willing to run against Trump if he decides to get in the race himself.
Support for “Firing Line for Margaret Hoover” is provided by Stephens Inc., Robert Granieri, Charles R. Schwab, The Fairweather Foundation, Asness Family Foundation, Pfizer Inc., The Rosalind P. Walter Foundation, and Damon Button.

Nov 27, 2021 • 26min
Ideological odd couple Drs. Cornel West and Robert George reflect on their shared humanity
Progressive socialist Dr. Cornel West and conservative Christian thinker Dr. Robert George, the “ideological odd couple,” discuss how their disagreements over policy — and their ability to talk about them openly and respectfully — have led to an enduring friendship.
Their conversation with Margaret Hoover was originally broadcast on Firing Line in February 2020 and is now available as a podcast in honor of the conversations that happen at the Thanksgiving dinner table.
“When you love somebody, you love their qualities,” West says. “The things you have in common that don’t always fall into politics.”
One area where George says West has “unsettled” him is “on issues of race.” Before engaging with West, George said he believed society would “be better if we just were colorblind completely in all of our dealings.” West helped him to realize that “the facts of history” can require a different approach.
They agree it has become harder to speak freely on college campuses and share a commitment to free speech. “You cannot be a truth-seeker if you're in groupthink,” George says.
“Socratic energy is very important,” West says. “No matter what the context is, you have to have an acknowledgment that not only you could be wrong but you can learn something from someone who you have deep disagreements with.”
Support for “Firing Line for Margaret Hoover” is provided by Stephens Inc., Robert Granieri, Charles R. Schwab, The Fairweather Foundation, Asness Family Foundation, Pfizer Inc., The Rosalind P. Walter Foundation, and Damon Button.

Nov 20, 2021 • 40min
Sen. Tim Scott on race, politics, and uniting the GOP in 2024
Sen. Tim Scott, R-SC, sits down with Margaret Hoover in Washington, D.C. to discuss his personal story of overcoming poverty to take his historic seat in Congress.
The only Black Republican in the U.S. Senate and a rising star in the GOP, Scott assesses the impact of opportunity zones, which provide tax incentives for investment in economically distressed areas. "What I do not want," he says, "is for people to come into a community, make a profit off the community, and run away with their money."
Scott calls for bipartisan support for school choice including charter schools explaining, “the power of education is the power of your future.”
Although bipartisan talks for police reform fell apart, Scott remains hopeful Republicans and Democrats can find common ground on the “four or five areas” where they agree.
The senator weighs in on the possibility of a Trump 2024 ticket and forecasts a "united Republican Party" heading into the next presidential election cycle.
Support for “Firing Line for Margaret Hoover” is provided by Stephens Inc., Robert Granieri, Charles R. Schwab, The Fairweather Foundation, Asness Family Foundation, Pfizer Inc., The Rosalind P. Walter Foundation, and Damon Button.


