The Opposite of Cheating

Drs. Tricia Bertram Gallant & David Rettinger
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Aug 25, 2025 • 28min

The Opposite of Cheating Podcast (Season 2) Episode 25: Amanda McKenzie

“Integrity isn’t just for students—it’s about the culture we create in learning, teaching, and working.”“Trust is essential, but it’s not an assurance technique—we still need ways to validate learning.”In the 25th episode of The Opposite of Cheating Podcast, David speaks with Amanda McKenzie, Director of Academic Integrity at the University of Waterloo, Canada. With over a decade of experience in academic integrity and quality assurance, Amanda shares insights on fostering a culture of integrity across institutions, the role of remediation and education in supporting students, and the evolving challenges posed by GenAI.Amanda McKenzie is the Director of Academic Integrity at the University of Waterloo, Ontario, Canada and Board Emeritus Member of the International Center for Academic Integrity.You can learn more about Amanda's work at https://uwaterloo.ca/academic-integrity/ and follow her on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/amanda-mckenzie-924b4512/.(Disclaimer: episode quotes and summary were created using Youtube's Transcript and ChatGPT and edited by a human. Any errors are the responsibility of the human).
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Aug 18, 2025 • 34min

The Opposite of Cheating Podcast (Season 2) Episode 24: Laura Dumin

"Some of the best learning happens when you fail upwards.""I have probably never saved any time from using AI."In this 24th episode of The Opposite of Cheating Podcast, Tricia speaks again with Laura Dumin (for previous conversation, see Episode 3) to check in on how her teaching asynchronous online classes are going with the latest GenAI developments. We explore why developing meaningful relationships with students (when possible) can help minimize cheating, the dangers of overhyping GenAI in education, and how she has found that emphasizing trust, relationships, and thoughtful course design is a better approach to teaching for integrity. Tricia and Laura also ruminate on whether it is possible to have integrity in asynchronous, online assessments in an AI powered world.Laura Dumin is an award-winning Professor at the University of Central Oklahoma and a popular voice for speaking to how we might integrate GenAI into writing courses. You can learn more about Laura and her work on LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/laura-dumin157/) and at her website (https://ldumin157.com/).If you want to connect with Laura and others thinking about GenAI in education, you can join the Facebook Group she founded at  https://m.facebook.com/groups/632930835501841(Disclaimer: episode quotes and summary were created using Youtube's Transcript and ChatGPT and edited by a human. Any errors are the responsibility of the human).
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Aug 11, 2025 • 31min

The Opposite of Cheating Podcast (Season 2) Episode 23: Jeanne Beatrix Law

“I think it's important to trust students first. And if there's a reason not to trust, I get that. But embracing the idea of trust and empathy first is important.”“When students value not just the process but what they’re doing, they’re engaged. And engaged students are far less likely to cheat.”In this 22nd episode of The Opposite of Cheating Podcast, Tricia and Jeanne talk about choosing to assume "confusion over corruption" as a writing educator, integrating AI into first year writing courses, and how alternative grading practices can help engender trust and empathy while teaching for integrity.Jeanne Beatrix Law is a Professor of English, Coordinator of the graduate certificate in AI & Writing Technologies, and past Director of First-Year Writing at Kennesaw State University in Georgia. Learn more about Jeanne and her work at https://facultyweb.kennesaw.edu/jlaw29/index.php and read a The Conversation piece she wrote at https://theconversation.com/ai-isnt-replacing-student-writing-but-it-is-reshaping-it-254878You can follow Jeanne on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeanne-beatrix-law-phd-a05b2391/(Disclaimer: episode quotes and summary were created using Youtube's Transcript and ChatGPT and edited by a human. Any errors are the responsibility of the human).
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Aug 4, 2025 • 34min

The Opposite of Cheating Podcast (Season 2) Episode 22: Joshua Eyler

“Kids are born curious. The structure of schooling—standardized tests, boxed curricula—often kills that curiosity.” “There are no shortcuts. We must design learning experiences that are meaningful, relevant, and worth doing.” In this 22nd episode of The Opposite of Cheating Podcast, Joshua talks to Tricia about how our 20th century systems of grading can harm student learning, exacerbate structural inequalities, and erode intrinsic motivation. Together, they wrestle with this notion of "harm", lament that removing grades isn't the "magic bullet" solution to stopping cheating, and challenge the myth that its the job of colleges and universities to prepare students for work. Joshua Eyler is Senior Director of the Center for Excellence in Teaching & Learning and Director of the ThinkForward Quality Enhancement Plan at the University of Mississippi, where he is also on the faculty in the Department of Teacher Education. Josh is the author of Failing Our Future: How Grades Harm Students and What We Can Do about It (John Hopkins University Press, 2024) and How Humans Learn: The Science and Stories behind Effective College Teaching (WVU, 2018). You can follow Josh at https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshua-eyler-88583338/ and Josh would like to recommend that you check out his colleague Emily Pitts Donahoe's newsletter "Unmaking the Grade" at https://emilypittsdonahoe.substack.com/(Disclaimer: episode quotes and summary were created using Youtube's Transcript and ChatGPT and edited by a human. Any errors are the responsibility of the human).
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Jul 29, 2025 • 38min

The Opposite of Cheating Podcast (Season 2) Episode 21: Tina Austin

“Before you drive a car, you need to know where the brakes are. That’s how I see AI literacy—AI safety comes first.” “AI speaks with confidence. That can be seductive for students who aren’t confident in their own thinking.” The Opposite of Cheating Podcast kicks off Season 2 with a conversation with Tina Austin. In this episode, we learn about Tina's first encounter with contract cheating and then Tina and Tricia tackle the concept of "AI Literacy" (is it a thing and can it be taught?) vs AI Safety and explore a timely debate about whether individual educators can or should resist GenAI. Tina Austin is an educator in computational biology and biological/medical ethics at multiple California colleges and universities, and has been integrating GenAI into her teaching since 2022 and helping other faculty do the same. You can follow Tina on Linkedin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/tinaaustin. You can also bookmark her website at https://tinaaustin.com/(Disclaimer: episode quotes and summary were created using Youtube's Transcript and ChatGPT and edited by a human. Any errors are the responsibility of the human).

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