

Legally Speaking Podcast
Legally Speaking Podcast™
Inspiring Legal Minds. Transforming Legal Futures.
The Legally Speaking Podcast, sponsored by Clio, inspires, educates and entertains. Think of it as a law library—with better snacks and standout guests.
Hosted by Rob Hanna, legal careers expert, LinkedIn Top Voice and Founder, we interview lawyers, law firm leaders, legal tech pioneers, DEI champions, and even Netflix stars.
Guests explore legal innovation, career growth, AI, wellbeing and redefining success. New episodes every Monday for the main show, with minisodes as well for quick enjoyment.
Tune in now to supercharge your legal career.
The Legally Speaking Podcast, sponsored by Clio, inspires, educates and entertains. Think of it as a law library—with better snacks and standout guests.
Hosted by Rob Hanna, legal careers expert, LinkedIn Top Voice and Founder, we interview lawyers, law firm leaders, legal tech pioneers, DEI champions, and even Netflix stars.
Guests explore legal innovation, career growth, AI, wellbeing and redefining success. New episodes every Monday for the main show, with minisodes as well for quick enjoyment.
Tune in now to supercharge your legal career.
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Feb 23, 2026 • 40min
From Ordinary to Unstoppable: 3 Principles Driving a 30-Year Legal Career - Philip Fornaro - S10E07
On today’s Legally Speaking Podcast, I’m delighted to be joined by Philip Fornaro. Phil is the Managing Attorney of Fornaro Law. He is also the host of Light Bulb Moments, talking to leaders, entrepreneurs and creatives about ideas sparking change. Philip is passionate about the Outside General Counsel model and how it is transforming legal services into a true business partnership.So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Philip discussing:- An Inspiring Entrepreneurial Journey- The Outside General Counsel Model- The Importance of a Positive Energy & Mindset- Community and Charity Work- Why We Need to Embrace New Technology Connect with Philip Fornaro here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/fornarolaw

Feb 16, 2026 • 44min
Why Focusing On Outcomes and Not Just Technicalities Will Save Your Deals - Björn Benckert - S10E06
On today’s Legally Speaking Podcast, I’m delighted to be joined by Björn Benckert. Björn is the Founder and Managing Partner of Avery Law. He is a corporate lawyer, specialising in M&A transactions. Björn trained at Norton Rose Fulbright and worked at Dewy & LeBoeuf LLP, before founding Avery Law in 2012. Björn built the firm to “provide the kind of clear, strategic and practical legal support fast-growing businesses truly need’. So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Björn discussing:- How Involvement in Every Part of the Business is Crucial- Focus on Two Main Things for Success- Emphasising a More Commercial and Client-Focused Approach- Tasks That Took an Hour and a Half That Can Now Be Done in Five Minutes- Doing this can lead to earning more money and greater career satisfaction.Connect with Björn Benckert here - https://uk.linkedin.com/in/bjornbenckert

Feb 9, 2026 • 49min
Why Choosing an Employee-Owned Model Saves Law Firms - Jonathan Wearing & Richard Coulthard - S10E05
On today’s Legally Speaking Podcast, I’m delighted to be joined by Jonathan Wearing and Richard Coulthard.Jonathan is the Managing Director of Ison Harrison. A personal injury solicitor, Jonathan, has helped the firm grow in size, strength, and profile. He has transformed the firm into one of the first law firms in the country to become an exclusively Employee Owned Business in 2022.Richard is the Director and Head of Corporate at Ison Harrison. He has a wealth of experience in corporate law, commercial law, litigation, dispute resolution and employment law. He is also an Employee Ownership Trust specialist. With an ‘aims-focused’ approach, Richard strives to provide first-class legal advice and support, going above and beyond to help his clients succeed. So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob, Richard and Jonathan discussing:- Ownership Structures Shaping Culture More Than Leadership Titles- Long-Term Success Depending on Cultural Readiness, Not Just Financial Viability- Efficiency-Enhancing Technology Magnifies Human Connection, Not Replacing It- Clear, Purposeful Storytelling amplifying Competitive Advantage and Stakeholder Trust- Transitioning to an Employee Ownership Model Connect with Jonathan Wearing here - https://uk.linkedin.com/in/jonathan-wearing-8ab2821a Connect with Richard Coulthard here - https://uk.linkedin.com/in/richard-coulthard-8b840677

Feb 2, 2026 • 44min
The One Thing Employers Miss About Social Media Monitoring & Why It Matters - Lloyd Clarke - S10E04
On today’s Legally Speaking Podcast, I’m delighted to be joined by Lloyd Clarke. Lloyd is a Partner and the Head of Employment & Business Disputes at Attwells Solicitors. He has wide-ranging experience across property, employment and business law. Lloyd is known for his practical, down-to-earth approach with clients. He is passionate about how changes in property and employment law are affecting both individuals and small businesses. So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Lloyd discussing:- Digital Footprints Being More Permanent Than They Appear- Nuance in belief protection- Employing Clear Policies and Training- The Dangers of Reputational Harm- Social Media & Online Presence MonitoringConnect with Lloyd Clarke here - https://uk.linkedin.com/in/lloyd-clarke-2bb41b47

Jan 26, 2026 • 39min
Breaking Ground: How Successful Women Lawyers Build Thriving Practices - Deborah Farone - S10E03
On today’s Legally Speaking Podcast, I’m delighted to be joined by Deborah Farone. Deborah is an internationally recognised marketing strategist and CEO of Farone Advisors LLC. She advises leading law firms, professional services organisations and executives in Europe, Asia and the US on business development and leadership strategy. Deborah has lectured at top universities, including Cornell Law and NYU. She is also the best-selling author of Best Practices: Marketing and Business Development for Law Firms and recently released her latest book ‘Breaking Ground: How Successful Women Lawyers Build Thriving Practices’. So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Deborah discussing:- The Power of Authenticity in Legal Business Development- The Importance of Early Relationship-Building and Networking- Overcoming Unique Challenges for Women in Law- Strengthening Business Development Skills Through Practice and Resilience- Embracing Change: Diversity, Training, and AI in the Legal IndustryConnect with Deborah Farone here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/deborahfarone

Jan 19, 2026 • 47min
Crafting Careers: The Art of Workplace Design & Why it Demands Revolution - Niki Avraam - S10E02
On today’s Legally Speaking Podcast, I’m delighted to be joined by Niki Avraam. Niki is an employment lawyer and law firm founder. She is also the Head of WORKWELL Europe, leading the transformation of workplace culture across the UK and Europe. With 2 decades’ expertise in law, leadership and culture change, Niki is passionate about preparing people for the future of work. Niki’s mission goes beyond the legal landscape–she believes individuals should have profound satisfaction in their work. So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Niki discussing:- The Importance of Embracing Discomfort in the Workplace- Building Invigorated and Engaged Workforces- The Role of Authenticity in Leadership- Operationalising Ownership Culture in Organisations- Unlocking Potential Through Adaptability and LearningConnect with Niki Avraam here - https://uk.linkedin.com/in/nikiavraam

Jan 12, 2026 • 46min
Mark Evans of The Law Society of England and Wales on Justice, Legaltech & Wellbeing - S10E01
On today’s Legally Speaking Podcast, I’m delighted to be joined by Mark Evans. Mark is the president of the Law Society of England and Wales. He is the 181st president, and has more than 28 years of experience in residential, commercial and agricultural property transactions and succession planning. Mark's presidential themes include a professional Fit for the Future, championing our members and supporting solicitor well being. His mission is to promote the excellence, diversity and innovation of the solicitors profession, all whilst upholding the rule of law and access to justice. So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Mark discussing:- Shaping the Future: Embracing Innovation and Diversity in Law- Bridging the Gap: Tackling Legal Deserts and Expanding Access to Justice- Strengthening the Profession: Raising the Bar for Legal Education and Training- Prioritising Wellbeing: Transforming Mental Health for Lawyers- Building Community: Connecting the Legal World through Running and Shared Experience Connect with Mark Evans here - https://uk.linkedin.com/in/mark-evans-57927917

Jan 5, 2026 • 1h 51min
Special Edition: The Best of Season 9 – Highlights from the Top 10 Episodes - S9E44
Welcome back and thank you for being part of the Legally Speaking podcast journey. We appreciate your listening, sharing, showing up, and for sticking with us as this podcast packed its bags and traveled the world. From Dubai to Ibiza, from the Festival of Entrepreneurs to Mercedes world, all the way through to ClioCon 2025 in Boston, Massachusetts. You joined us with every step of the way, and that means everything to us. A massive shout out as well to our incredible sponsor, Clio. backing the show, supporting the vision, and helping make these conversations possible. Coming up right now, as we come to a close with Season 9, we're going to be rolling straight into the snippets from the top 10 episodes of Season 9, bringing you the moment you loved, shared, and replayed the most. And here's the thing, this isn't goodbye, not even close. So don't go anywhere because season 10 is just around the corner. We're coming back bigger, bolder and better than ever. This has been an incredible season. Thanks for joining us on the adventure. Happy New Year and we'll see you very soon.So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and his guests discussing:- What Comes Next for Legally Speaking Podcast- Disruptive Legal Career Journeys- Advocating for Clients in Medical Negligence- Leadership and Diversity in Legal Practice- Navigating Sanctions and White Collar Crime- Exploring Private Wealth Law- AI and Legal Technology Trends- Legal Tech Research and Innovation- Entrepreneurial Journeys- Expert Guidance and Advice from Seasoned Veterans in LawStay Tuned here - https://legallyspeakingpodcast.com/

Dec 29, 2025 • 1h 7min
Redefining Legal Careers: Brett Colvin on Building Goodlawyer & the Rise of Fractional Law - S9E43
On today’s Legally Speaking Podcast, I'm delighted to be joined by Brett Colvin. Brett is the CEO and Co-Founder of Goodlawyer, branded Canada’s most trusted in-house counsel network, Goodlawyer provides cost-effective in-house legal solutions. Goodlawyer has helped over 5,000 businesses and they are just at the start of their venture. So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Brett discussing:- Flexible Legal Careers with Goodlawyer- Embracing New Legal Technology- Leadership & Company Culture- Strategic Customer Focus- Community and Brand BuildingConnect with Brett Colvin here - https://ca.linkedin.com/in/brettrcolvin

Dec 22, 2025 • 42min
How Technology Reshapes Law: Practical Guidance from Clio’s Solutions Champion Damien Riehl - S9E42
On today’s Legally Speaking Podcast, I'm delighted to be joined by Damien Riehl. Damien is a lawyer with experience in litigation, counselling businesses, handling cybersecurity crises and managing intellectual property matters. He has represented Fortune 500 companies, startups and nonprofits. He is also the Solutions Champion at Clio. As a technologist, Damien has spent more than a decade designing and developing AI tools in the legal practice. His goal is to build technology connecting law to the people it serves. So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Damien discussing:- AI Transforming Legal Services- Data Quality and Access- Ethical and Practical Impacts of Legal Tech- Intellectual Property in the Age of AI- Alignment of Tech with Human and Legal ValuesConnect with Damien Riehl here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/damienriehl


