

Trillions
Bloomberg
Money goes where it’s treated best. That simple truth is a big reason why more and more money (trillions, in fact) flows into a powerful, low-cost tool that’s quietly transformed investing. Exchange-traded funds let you invest in everything from the stock market to gold like never before. This biweekly podcast will demystify them—and hopefully delight you in the process.
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Apr 16, 2020 • 23min
A Conversation With ETF Issuer Jan Van Eck
When you are an ETF issuer, you typically have some products doing well — and other ones doing less well. No better example of that than VanEck Vectors, an eclectic brand of ETFs that reflect the many phases of this year's wild ride. On this episode Trillions, Joel and Eric chat with the firm's CEO, Jan Van Eck, about the Fed's ETF plans, fallen-angel bonds, high-yield munis, video games, and the juxtaposition of offering both green and coal ETFs.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Apr 2, 2020 • 23min
Takeaways From the Carnage
March started in one place (high) and ended in another (low). Amid the carnage, traders and investors leaned on ETFs, which saw record volumes. On this episode of Trillions, Eric and Joel speak with Bloomberg Intelligence ETF analyst Athanasios Psarofagis about who the winners and losers in the selloff were, who benefits most from the Fed's rescue plan and how the stage is set for smart-beta to have its next "immaculate rebalance." See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mar 19, 2020 • 22min
What the Actual ETF Is Going on Right Now
Remember the good old days? An unloved, decade-long bull market that never seemed to end? When investments went only up? Well, the coronavirus crash of 2020 has turned those fun times into distant memories. At its worst point during the recent sell-off, more than $10 trillion of equity value was erased, wiping out three years of gains. So how have ETFs been faring amid all the carnage? Katherine Griefeld, a reporter with Bloomberg News, joins Eric and Joel to discuss liquidity, flows, fixed income, exotics, leveraged ETFs, and more. All three recorded from their closets.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mar 5, 2020 • 25min
Biotech ETFs Vs. The Coronavirus
While much of the stock market has suffered over the past few weeks thanks to fear of the new coronavirus and its global economic fallout, there are a handful of stocks and exchange traded-funds that have managed to avoid damage, and even flourish.On this coronavirus-themed episode of Trillions, Bloomberg Intelligence Senior ETF Analyst Eric Balchunas and Bloomberg Businessweek Editor Joel Weber dive into the world of niche biotech ETFs.Joining them are Paul Yook and Ryan Cinalli of LifeSci Index Partners, who have launched Virtus LifeSci Biotech Product ETF and Virtus LifeSci Biotech Clinical Trials ETF, and are currently working on a third.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Feb 20, 2020 • 39min
The Secrets of an ETF Master Picker
If exchange traded funds are ingredients and the portfolio is the meal, then ETF strategists are the master chefs.One of the best chefs out there is Gary Stringer, president of Stringer Asset Management, an active manager that uses ETFs instead of individual securities to try and generate outperformance.On this episode we go through Stringer’s ETF portfolio full of non-obvious picks, and ask him why he uses them—both the macro case and the product case. ETFs discussed include the iShares Core Dividend Growth ETF (DGRO), the Invesco Taxable Municipal Bond ETF (BAB), the Health Care Select Sector SPDR Fund (XLV) and many, many more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Feb 6, 2020 • 35min
Inside Inside ETFs 2020: What the ETF Industry is Talking About
Are active non-transparent ETFs going to be a hit or flop? How can ESG succeed when everyone’s definition is different? What can little issuers do to succeed in an industry dominated by giants? But how can giant asset managers make money if investors want everything for free? These were some of the big questions debated at this year’s Inside ETFs, a conference and networking extravaganza featuring issuers, advisors, service providers, the media and even a few celebrities.We discuss these big themes featuring audio clips recorded on the ground at the event from key attendees as well as in studio commentary from first time attendees, Claire Ballentine and Katherine Greifeld of Bloomberg News. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jan 23, 2020 • 41min
Everything Is ESG Now
In his annual letter to CEOs earlier this month, BlackRock's Larry Fink pushed business leaders to prioritize climate change as a "defining factor in companies’ long-term prospects." For its part, BlackRock will double the number of sustainable ETFs it offers and pressure index providers to create more environmental, social and governance-related benchmarks. How much will these moves ultimately matter, given that ESG ETFs currently have just 0.5% of the overall ETF pie? And what's the more powerful force, pressure from activist consumers or activist investors? Eric and Joel return to the topic of ESG investing to explore its promises and limitations, with guests Annie Massa, a finance reporter with Bloomberg News; Shaheen Contractor, an analyst with Bloomberg Intelligence; and Graham Sinclair, an ESG strategy consultant, joining to offer their perspectives and insights.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jan 13, 2020 • 2min
Introducing Prognosis Season 4: America's Broken Health-Care Costs
Americans are paying more and getting less for their health care than ever before. On the new season of Prognosis, reporter John Tozzi explores what went wrong. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jan 9, 2020 • 32min
Half of America Doesn't Own Stocks. Here’s Three Ways to Change That.
ETFs have democratized investing -- everything under the sun is available with the click of a button, and for cheap. Yet this really only applies to the half of the country with the ways, means and desire to invest. What about the other half? How do we get more of them benefiting from the markets?Joel and Eric speak with financial consultant Tyrone Ross, who's passionate about getting the "unbanked" more involved. Smartphones and services such as Cash App make his mission easier, he says, but it's still an ongoing challenge that requires what Ross calls the three Es: exposure, education and empowerment. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Dec 26, 2019 • 44min
Hot Takes: The Outlook for ETFs in 2020
There’s rarely a dull moment covering ETFs. And this year, as well as the past decade, was no exception. The industry has solidified itself as the hottest destination for new cash, new firms and new ideas. On this last episode of the year for Trillions, Joel and Eric talk to Rachel Evans of Bloomberg News and Todd Rosenbluth of CFRA in a round table format getting their expert takes and outlooks on everything from flows, returns, issuers, launches, fees, active, ESG, themes, marketing and regulation. Eric and Todd also make a new bet!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


