

Design Systems WTF
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A podcast from zeroheight.Let’s be honest, design systems are full of choice wtf moments. Michelle and Luke, two of our resident design advocates, are attempting to combat this with a new regular series, where they answer a single question around design system troubles every two weeks.
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Jun 21, 2024 • 26min
They downsized the design system team; how do we survive?
We navigate the challenges and uncertainties that arise when a design system team undergoes downsizing or restructuring. How do the design system team and teams who use the design system cope in this situation? We explore strategies for resilience, collaboration, and innovation in the face of adversity and discover how to thrive amidst organizational changes.

Jun 5, 2024 • 33min
What’s keeping design systems people up at night?
Dave, a Developer Advocate, and Michelle, a Designer, discuss challenges in transitioning between design systems and feature teams. They explore hurdles in adopting design system documentation, merging design system files, and creating systems for companies unfamiliar with complexity. The podcast also touches on challenges in transitioning to larger companies, semantic naming in typography, and navigating naming conventions in design systems.

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May 23, 2024 • 27min
Should Figma be the source of truth?
Figma is currently dominating the design landscape and with good reason. They’ve taken what we’ve done with product and UX design and allowed us to do so much more than we used to be able to. With the release and continued improvement of Dev Mode, they’re hoovering up more use cases and raising the question: are we happy with a design tool being the source of truth for all product teams?

May 17, 2024 • 27min
Is using a pre-built frontend library realistic?
Today we ask, “Is using a pre-built frontend library realistic?” We look into the pros and cons of leveraging frontend libraries such as MUI, Tailwind, or Ant Design for your design system. Are these libraries a shortcut to success, or do they come with hidden complexities and limitations? Tune in as we dissect the practicality, scalability, and long-term implications of adopting these pre-built solutions for your product.

Apr 23, 2024 • 26min
Future-proofing your design system
Design systems should reflect what’s currently in your product, but it’s tempting to future-proof them. After all, getting the system up and running was a lot of work, so what’s the harm in adding a few new things? Future us will thank our past selves, right?

Apr 17, 2024 • 27min
How do we get past the MVP state?
We examine that critical phase in the life of a design system: moving beyond the Minimum Viable Product (MVP). Launching an MVP is just the beginning, but what comes next? Michelle and Luke discuss strategies for advocating for more resources, ensuring your work is recognized and adequately resourced, and not just seen as a “free” addition from your team. Drawing from our own experiences and those of other teams, we share practical advice on selling your design system’s ongoing value to stakeholders.

Mar 20, 2024 • 29min
Building delight into your design system
Explore the delightful world of design systems, where fun meets functionality. Discover how to add charm and personality to components without losing usability. Learn about the Minimum Delightful Product concept and the role of illustration systems in enhancing visuals. Hear anecdotes on building collaboration with illustrators and the challenges of maintaining professionalism while encouraging creativity. Finally, dive into strategies to navigate the MVP culture, balancing speed with quality to foster user loyalty.

Mar 6, 2024 • 27min
Building a Global Design System
We dive into the ambitious idea proposed by Brad Frost: creating a global design system for everyone to use. Imagine a world where companies don’t reinvent the wheel with every component they create, but instead, contribute to and utilize a shared set of resources. We tackle the big questions: Where do we start in building such a universal system? How do we address hesitations and resistance in the community? What are the potential risks and unseen challenges?

Feb 21, 2024 • 22min
Our design system Valentines
This special episode is our love letter to the unsung heroes of the design system world. Join us as we shine a spotlight on some incredible individuals in the field who might not be on your radar yet, but definitely should be. We'll share our personal favorites, diving into the work they're doing and where you can find their contributions. Get ready to fall in love with these design system Valentines.

Feb 6, 2024 • 30min
Flexibility in Design Systems
In this episode, we tackle the common concern—are you being too prescriptive with your design system? We’ll discuss the fine line between guidance and rigidity, exploring how much prescription is too much. We’ll share the pitfalls of being overly prescriptive and the chaos that can ensue from excessive flexibility.


