

AI DevOps Podcast
Jeffrey Palermo
The AI DevOps Podcast is a show for those shipping software using AI, .NET, Azure, and DevOps. Each show brings you hard-hitting interviews with industry experts, innovating better methods, and sharing success stories. Sponsoring the podcast is Clear Measure, a software architecture and engineering firm that implements AI to empower software teams to establish quality, achieve stability, and increase speed. Hosted by Chief Architect, Jeffrey Palermo.
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Apr 6, 2026 • 51min
Aaron Stannard: Software 2.0 using AI - Episode 396
Aaron Stannard, founder of Petabridge and co-creator of Akka.NET, is a distributed-systems and .NET expert. He discusses Software 2.0 and how engineers move from coding to specifying and verifying with LLMs. He covers verification strategies, tooling for validating LLM outputs, detecting reward-hacking, practical local and remote LLM workflows, and using actors to orchestrate persistent agents.

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Mar 30, 2026 • 38min
Mads Torgersen: Talking AI - Episode 395
Mads Torgersen, Principal Architect at Microsoft and long-time C# lead designer (formerly a professor and contributor to a language starting with J). He talks about how AI is changing programming languages and tooling. He covers trust and verification of AI-generated code. He explains C# 15’s headline feature: union types, and how migration and feedback will shape the preview.

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Mar 23, 2026 • 41min
James World - AI - Episode 394
James World, a Microsoft‑certified Azure architect and seasoned .NET polyglot, talks about practical generative AI adoption and cloud‑native platform work. He covers which AI capabilities are ready today. He explains spec‑driven coding, combining probabilistic models with deterministic tooling, repo and tooling prep, and strategies for testing, context management, and AI‑first project setups.

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Mar 16, 2026 • 45min
Daniel Ward: AI Agents - Episode 393
Daniel Ward, a Microsoft .NET MVP and consultant focused on CI/CD, testing, AI adoption, and product management. He explains AI agents as LLM-driven actors that take actions, shows practical patterns for verify-and-iterate workflows, contrasts Copilot SDK orchestration with inline prompts, and explores agent use cases like PR analyzers, log-driven fixes, and personal research agents.

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Mar 9, 2026 • 1h 3min
Richard Lander: DotNet Inspect - Episode 392
Richard Lander, Principal Program Manager on the .NET team at Microsoft with decades shaping runtime and tooling. He traces .NET’s evolution to native AOT and explores inspect-style tooling inspired by Docker/kubectl. He unveils .NET Inspect, its markdown-first outputs, API diffing, LLM-friendly formats, SourceLink-driven source retrieval, and how CLI-first, pipeable tools enable AI-enabled developer workflows.

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Mar 2, 2026 • 34min
Savino Carlone: ERP Systems - Episode 391
Savino Carlone, a 25-year backend developer and educator from Turin who leads the web-based ERP Fattuto and co-leads Torino .NET, discusses ERP fundamentals and modeling company processes. He talks about architecting one product for many companies. He covers testing strategies, UX shifts toward mobile, and using retrieval-augmented generation to let AI surface and act on ERP data.

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Feb 23, 2026 • 42min
Paul Duvall: AI-Driven Development - Episode 390
Paul Duvall, award-winning author and longtime DevOps leader who helped pioneer continuous integration. He talks about how AI reshapes engineering practices and the need for solid CI habits. He outlines spec-driven workflows, evolving code review with AI, and tools for generating implementations from specs. He also covers observability, cost expectations for AI tooling, and how teams and careers adapt.

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Feb 16, 2026 • 40min
Damian Brady: GitHub AI - Episode 389
Damian Brady, Staff Developer Advocate at GitHub with decades in software, AI, DevOps and community leadership. He discusses expanding Copilot beyond autocompletion to reviews, fixes, and lifecycle help. He talks TDD with AI, assigning work to Copilot, Copilot SDK/CLI and SpecKit for structured AI-driven specs. He also covers documentation living with code and integrating lifecycle tools.

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Feb 9, 2026 • 46min
David Starr: DevOps Success Story - Episode 388
David Starr, President and founder of Cumulus26 and former Microsoft and GoDaddy technologist, shares his journey building Marketplace tools. He discusses founding Cumulus26 to simplify Azure Marketplace onboarding. He explains AmpUp, offer types like SaaS and VM, CI/CD pipeline practices, testing strategies, and telemetry for cloud products.

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Feb 2, 2026 • 47min
Kevin Griffin: Engineering for System Uptime - Episode 387
Kevin Griffin, CTO at Shows On Sale and longtime .NET community leader, speaker, and former .NET Foundation president. He talks about building for system uptime with structured logging, realistic health checks, and handling third-party failures. Conversation also covers synthetic tests, pragmatic Azure adoption, and using AI to find test coverage gaps.


