Second City Works presents "Getting to Yes, And"

Richard Thaler, Nobel-winning behavioral economist known for nudge theory, and Alex Imas, Booth professor studying negotiations and applied AI. They explore the winner’s curse in auctions and SPACs. They examine cooperation vs. self-interest in games like split-or-steal and the ultimatum game. They discuss loss aversion, endowment effects, present bias, and practical commitment devices.

Kelly welcomes the always provocative Tomas Chamorro-Premuzic back to the podcast to talk about his new book: “Don’t Be Yourself: Why Authenticity is Overrated (and What to Do Instead).” https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7769841/7769841_2025-10-20-020541.64kmono.mp3 “By all means, keep it real – just don’t make everyone else suffer for it.” “Everybody loves change until they have to do it themselves.”  “Most of us inhabit multiple selves.”  Recent Posts Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And” Dr. Khameer Kidia – ‘Empire of Madness’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Erin McGoff – ‘The Secret Language of Work’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Julia Minson: ‘How to Disagree Better’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} B. Joseph Pine – ‘Transform Your Business and Life’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Jane Marie Chen – Designing Self-Compassion .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Click for more

Toby Stuart, Leo Helzel Chair in Entrepreneurship and Innovation at UC Berkeley and author of Anointed, explains how social status shapes who rises in cultural markets. He discusses status-driven career launches, how gatekeepers anoint stars, and how AI may both equalize output and complicate how we evaluate and discover talent.

Kelly welcomes the always-inspiring Morgan Housel back to the podcast to discuss his new book, “The Art of Spending Money: Simple Choices for a Richer Life.” https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7746225/7746225_2025-10-06-141525.64kmono.mp3 “All behavior makes sense with enough information.” “Be careful judging how other people spend their money.”  “The best measure of wealth is what you have minus what you want.”  Recent Posts Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And” Dr. Khameer Kidia – ‘Empire of Madness’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Erin McGoff – ‘The Secret Language of Work’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Julia Minson: ‘How to Disagree Better’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} B. Joseph Pine – ‘Transform Your Business and Life’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Jane Marie Chen – Designing Self-Compassion .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Click for more

Colin Fisher, an Associate Professor at University College London, shares insights from his book, *The Collective Edge*. He discusses how categorizing people limits relationships and collaboration, echoing themes from the Harry Potter sorting hat. Fisher emphasizes the importance of building trust through task-focused collaboration rather than mere exercises. He critiques both traditional leadership structures and individualism, advocating for shared leadership and open communication to enhance group effectiveness. His research underscores how social sensitivity plays a crucial role in team success.

Maryellen MacDonald, Donald P. Hayes Professor Emerita of Psychology at the University of Wisconsin–Madison, dives into the intriguing world of psycholinguistics. She explains how talking sharpens our cognition and the unique flexibility of human language compared to animal calls. Exploring the power of self-talk, MacDonald highlights its role in focus and motivation. She also emphasizes active learning's importance and how children's interactions shape their development, challenging the notion that language change should be resisted. A captivating look at the science of conversation!

Kelly talks to Martin Dubin, a clinical psychologist, serial entrepreneur, business coach, and adviser to C-suite executives and Silicon Valley entrepreneurs, about his new book: “Blindspotting: How to See What’s Holding You Back as a Leader.” https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7711876/7711876_2025-09-16-023416.64kmono.mp3 “Things go well until they don’t.”  “We are not as self-aware as we believe.”  “Your identity is the least fixed part of you.”  Recent Posts Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And” Dr. Khameer Kidia – ‘Empire of Madness’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Erin McGoff – ‘The Secret Language of Work’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Julia Minson: ‘How to Disagree Better’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} B. Joseph Pine – ‘Transform Your Business and Life’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Jane Marie Chen – Designing Self-Compassion .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Click for more

Kelly talks to educator Maya Smart about her new book “Reading for Our Lives: The Urgency of Early Literacy and the Action Plan to Help Your Child.” https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7700601/7700601_2025-09-09-031401.64kmono.mp3 “Alarms ring; they don’t teach. And often when an alarm rings for too long, we tune it out.”  “Spoken words are the precursor of all precursors to reading.”  “Praise the process.”  Recent Posts Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And” Dr. Khameer Kidia – ‘Empire of Madness’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Erin McGoff – ‘The Secret Language of Work’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Julia Minson: ‘How to Disagree Better’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} B. Joseph Pine – ‘Transform Your Business and Life’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Jane Marie Chen – Designing Self-Compassion .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Click for more

Kelly digs in with author Keir Graff, who has written a new book about a legendary building in the Windy City, “Chicago’s Fine Arts Building: Music, Magic and Murder.”  https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7689385/7689385_2025-09-02-151125.64kmono.mp3 “All passes – Art alone endures.” “You’ll feel as you’ve just stepped out of a time machine.”  “Let the building haunt you; it’s a place where you can feel the energy of the past.”  Recent Posts Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And” Dr. Khameer Kidia – ‘Empire of Madness’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Erin McGoff – ‘The Secret Language of Work’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Julia Minson: ‘How to Disagree Better’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} B. Joseph Pine – ‘Transform Your Business and Life’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Jane Marie Chen – Designing Self-Compassion .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Click for more

Dr. Adam Dorsey, a Silicon Valley psychologist, executive coach, and author focused on connection and well-being. He recounts how improv reshaped his life, why connection became his central work, the paradox of feeling lonelier despite more technology, the role of presence through joy and pain, and how quests, pets, and varied friendships build lasting bonds.