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Jamie and Jeremy turn to the Confederation's thoughts on mated relationships in this episode, drawing upon their personal experience with relationships to put the fourth, fifth, and sixth density messages from our tradition in a human context. The Confederation tends to stress the importance of knowing oneself honestly, as this helps the seeker to be more open and vulnerable with their mate, yielding some of the most potent catalyst for growth people encounter in their incarnation. Through meditation we tap into the sacred nature of ourselves, the other self, and the resulting relationship-self, thereby expanding inner and outer inquiry into potentially every level of awareness. By mirroring in better or worse ways, the mate furnishes their partner a consistent subject upon which to focus their love, making their place in our lives a complex but utterly consequential aspect of the upward spiraling light.Show NotesHatonn on how service works between mates (May 6, 1979)Ra on unstudied, spontaneous, and honest response of entities toward experiences (Session 41, Question 19)Q'uo on mirroring in relationships (August 29, 2001)Latuii on justice and expectations within relationships (October 4, 1987)Laitos on negotiating the open heart (May 4, 2024)And check out SocialMemoryComplex.Earth to find help on organizing seeking circles as well as Jeremy's new blog!

Given the state of the world at the outset of 2026, Jamie and Jeremy discuss the Confederation's thoughts on the subject of despair. Laleema shares their view on the condition with regards to the mind, body, and spirit complexes, finding spiritual despair to be an absolutely necessary experience for the seeker. The task then becomes to work with our bodily and mental despair to transmute them into that of the spirit, where we can surrender our limitations of mind and body to the Creator and do Its will. The ideas of Søren Kierkegaard on despair are sprinkled in, and a Q'uo transcript from a few years sheds light on the operation of despair as part of a cycle in the life of love.Show NotesLaleema on despair (September 22, 2005)Sickness Unto Death (Kierkegaard, A&D Press, 2008)Q'uo on Empathy (First Channeling Intensive, Session 10: August 1, 2021)Q'uo on Witnessing Planetary Sorrow (Sixth Channeling Intensive, Session 19: November 4, 2024)Pluribus (Apple TV)Reality (Kingsley, Catafalque Press, 2020)Q'uo on the Cycle of Desire, Love, Despair, and Healing (First Channeling Intensive, Session 11: August 2, 2021)Auxhall on Freedom and Direction (March 12, 2023)All despair-related sessions on HARC (High Altitude Receiving Center)Working Notes (Substack)

When asked about the disciplines of the personality, those of Ra responded with three directives: “One, know yourself. Two, accept yourself. Three, become the Creator.” What does it mean to know yourself? Which self? How much knowledge? What is this knowledge, its nature? Jamie and Jeremy discuss these questions in light of emotions, dreams, energy system blockages, desires, and the neverending search for the center of ourselves and other selves.Show NotesEpisode 17: The Discipline of the Personality (inaudible.show)Ra on the discipline of the personality (Session 74, Question 11)Q’uo on working with emotions (January 7, 2008)Ra’s balancing technique example (Session 46, Question 9)Hatonn on knowing the universe through the self (November 9, 1977)Ra on imagining infinity as a unity (Session 1, Question 7)Laitos on desire magnetizing the self (November 9, 1977)Episode 62: A Deep Dive Into the Archetypes, Part 3 (inaudible.show)Q’uo on “Who Am I?” (September 22, 2007)Contact Jeremy via email: jeremy at otherselvesworking period group

How should we relate to the more fantastic elements in Confederation philosophy like contact with extraterrestrial entities, the effects of the pyramid structure, and UFOs/UAPs? How do we know what's real? Is any of it required study for our spiritual progress? What role does it play in our lives, our faith in the Creator, and ability to polarize and serve others? Jamie Liestman joins Jeremy to discuss how seekers might work with these less philosophical parts of the philosophy, recounting their personal experiences with the sublime, the supernatural, and where service fits into that.Note: My audio is not as good as it could be, I'm out of practice setting levels. Sorry.Show NotesJade Norby's new Law of One podcast (YouTube)Jade Norby's substack with Discord community information (jadenorby.substack.com)Ra on using the pyramid (Session 57, Question 13)Carla joins the Working Group (June 10, 2024: Working Group Gathering '24, Session 6)Ra on understanding in third density (Session 16, Question 39)Ufos alerting people to mystery (Session 7, Question 12)Flying Sauces: A Modern Myth of Things Seen in the Sky (Jung, Princeton University Press, 1979)Episode 14: The Transient and the Timeless (inaudible.show)Hatonn on blending energies (August 15, 2025: RMC 2025 Invitational, Session 1)YouTube version (YouTube.com)

Returning from their hiatus, Nithin and Jeremy look into what Confederation entities might have to say about the subject of depression. We look at depression in several senses: as a starving of love from its source, a rejection of the self and the circumstances in which it finds itself, an opportunity to empty the self in order to make room for the new, and more. Applying their experience with depressive states at various moments in their lives, Jeremy and Nithin delve into the nature of this condition as one milestone in an overall process of transformation. We are not asked to understand so much as to have faith in the goodness of this transformation and, in so doing, take responsibility for our small role as instruments of our Creator.Show NotesQ'uo on catalyst gone awry (May 2, 2004)Q'uo on the influence of different melodies on the self (October 15, 2005)Q'uo on the spiraling nature of recurring catalyst (May 1, 2005)Latuii on the opportunity of depression (February 28, 1982)Latuii on depression and transformation (May 20, 1984)Q'uo on transformation and the light touch (July 12, 1992)Q'uo on depression and red ray blockage (November 24, 2007; May 10, 2008)Q'uo on the role of all energy centers in depression (October 8, 2006)Q'uo on depression and its archetypes (July 26, 1987)

Jeremy gives a short update on the status of the podcast, followed by a recording of his presentation, New Insights Into the Archetypal Mind, recorded at the Other Selves Working Group's January 2025 Law of One Concepts Study Circle meeting.Video presentation (youtube.com)Jeremy's piece on the tenth anniversary of Carla Rueckert's passing (Working Notes substack)

In this final installment of our series on the archetypal mind, Dr. Stephen Tyman joins us once more to help us begin to explore the spirit cycle of the tarot. We discuss the unfathomably vast scope of the spirit complex through the lens of its seven stations. Here seeking has become so refined that desire, the motive force of evolution, and its object begin to blend. Our individuated consciousness stands naked before our true identity as the Creator Itself. Perilous, subtle, and promising, work in the spirit complex involves encountering our deepest emotions, including faith and despair, joy and terror, as we balance these experiences and discipline ourselves to apprehend in some small way the colossal forces of intelligent infinity without recourse to the traction provided by the body complex and the mind complex.Show NotesRa on the primacy of individual interpretation of the archetypes (Session 77, Question 23)Ra on the adept’s dissociation with the world (Session 80, Question 12)Q’uo on fixing and loving (July 31, 2007)Hatonn on seeking and transformation (May 1, 1983)Ra on the infitude of spirit (Session 80, Question 20)Ra on archetypes as things-in-themselves (Session 88, Question 17)Article on the concept of the thing-in-itself (Wikipedia)Ra on the origin of the tarot (Session 76, Question 6)Ra on the experience of spirit (Session 80, Question 8)The Celestine Prophecy (CelestineVision.com)The Sixth Channeling Intensive (High Altitude Receiving Center)

Nithin and Jeremy tackle another 1974 Hatonn session two days following the one they analyzed last episode, this one extending the Confederation's concepts of love, light, and other primal distortions into the area of desire and service. This begins with a discussion about the genealogy of desire, its thread connecting more distorted versions of the desire to more pure versions. Desire achieves its goal ultimately through service, the dynamic projection of the truth of oneness into the limited, novel details of a moment in the illusion. Therefore, serving involves the ability to look through the illusion, recognizing deeper layers of our desires and using the illusion to skillfully address our service to those on levels of calling they may not even understand themselves. This means we cannot arrive at our choices of how to serve solely through intellectual thinking; this ability to serve other selves on deeper levels starts with better self-knowledge and a more intuitional approach exercised in meditation. Jeremy introduces a couple more sessions from the 1970s that reinforce this concept of love's current through the illusion via desire as well as the mysterious, creative, inspirational nature of true service.Show NotesHatonn on desire and service (February 13, 1974)Ra on children’s responsibility (Session 18, Question 7)Monka on mirroring within and without (February 24, 2024)Oorkas on the illusion melting away (September 21, 2024)Luke on Jesus's prayer in solitude (Luke 5:16)Hatonn on seeking and progress (April 22, 1974)Hatonn on the difficulties of service (April 30, 1974)Hatonn on the readiness to serve (February 15, 1976)

After a long break, Nithin and Jeremy return to discuss a 1974 Hatonn session that presages the Ra contact revelations in so many ways. In the context of the long lineage of Confederation channeling, they discuss what they mean by love and light, how they interact and relate to the first distortion, free will. This leads them to address thoughts on the nature of manifestation and the thread connecting it back to the Creator through a variety of successive distortions, a task that doesn't quite yield to the intellect. Evolution then tracks through time the process of this thread being traced back to unity, as we learn how to truly become self-conscious enough to become a participant in the Creator's evolutionary project.Show NotesHatonn on love and light (February 11, 1974)How the Heart Cries Out (First Distortion Press)Ra on negative information (Session 26, Question 36)Ra on limitless light (Session 78, Question 9)Q’uo on the second mind, the heart (March 3, 1991)Ra on the steps of light at harvest (Session 51, Question 1)Pure motion in Larsonian physics (lrcphysics.com)Ra on second density harvest (Session 19, Question 2)Ra on children's responsibility (Session 18, Question 7)

Nithin and Jeremy welcome "Linus," an anonymous Other Selves Working Group member, to the show to help them discuss Ra's concept of contemplation. Distinguishing it from meditation and prayer, they examine these three forms of inner work, observing how contemplation addresses the attention to one's conscious mind in a way congruent to meditation's attention to the deep mind. Reflecting on their own experiences with contemplation, the trio discuss how contemplation relates to other aspects of the seeker's life, especially its relationship with inward inquiry, catalysis, and growth.Show NotesRa on meditation, contemplation, visualization, and prayer (Session 49, Question 8)Ra on daydreaming (Session 16, Question 54](https://www.lawofone.info/s/16#54))Ra on contemplation stimulated by warfare (Session 65, Question 7)Cunningham's Law (Wikipedia)Ra's balancing technique example (Session 46, Question 9)Subscribe to the Other Selves Working Group's newsletter, Working Notes, for updates on the fruits of our gathering in June as well as the Richmond Meditation Circle's forthcoming book, How the Heart Cries Out.