

The Gaggle: An Arizona politics podcast
The Arizona Republic and azcentral.com
Helping you keep up with what matters in Arizona's political news. Each week we interview politicians, public figures or journalists to break down one local issue and how it affects your life in Arizona.
Coming to you every Wednesday morning, The Gaggle is hosted by The Arizona Republic's national political reporters Ron Hansen and Stephanie Murray, and is produced by Amanda Luberto.
Coming to you every Wednesday morning, The Gaggle is hosted by The Arizona Republic's national political reporters Ron Hansen and Stephanie Murray, and is produced by Amanda Luberto.
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Nov 26, 2025 • 1min
Happy Thanksgiving from The Gaggle!
We are off this week to enjoy the holiday and we hope you are too. Have a safe and lovely holiday, Gaggle listeners. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nov 19, 2025 • 17min
The future of Turning Point USA
Since Charlie Kirk's death, Turning Point USA and its supporters have completed the tour he began, recently making the final stop at the University of California, Berkeley, which resulted in protests and arrests.
In some ways, the chaotic setting underscored the early turbulence for Turning Point after Kirk's death. The organization, so strongly connected to his persona, faces not only grief but pressure to reboot itself.
But the unifying power of Kirk feels missing. So, what is the future of Turning Point in the conservative ecosystem?
This week on The Gaggle, we are joined by a Republic reporter who has been covering Turning Point since Kirk's death and was in Berkeley for the last stop of that college tour.
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Guest: Stephanie Murray
Host: Ron Hansen
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Nov 12, 2025 • 31min
A conversation with Adelita Grijalva
Adelita Grijalva is best known for not getting to start her job in an unprecedented act by Republican Speaker of the House Mike Johnson. After a seven-week delay, the Speaker has set a time to formally swear in Rep.-elect Grijalva for Nov 12.
She holds the key to potentially forcing a vote in the House of Representatives to release files on an investigation into Donald Trump and disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein.
But she is also looking forward to getting to work for her constituents.
This week on The Gaggle, we are joined by Rep.-elect Adelita Grijalva to discuss the delay in her swearing-in, the longest government shutdown in history and what she wants to accomplish on Capitol Hill.
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Guest: Adelita Grijalva
Host: Ron Hansen
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Nov 5, 2025 • 29min
Democrats struggle to register disgruntled voters
As of Nov. 3, President Donald Trump has the lowest approval rating of his second term at 37%.
This is usually a good sign for the party out of power, but disapproval in Trump isn't the whole picture. The Democratic Party is having a hard time translating criticism into support.
Through July, Republicans have gained 9 times as many new registered voters than Democrats since the November 2024 election.
This week on The Gaggle, we're joined by Democratic strategist and CNN commentator, Maria Cardona, to look at how her party is faring one year before the midterm elections.
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Guest: Maria Cardona
Host: Ron Hansen
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Oct 29, 2025 • 38min
Why migrants are heading away from the US border
In August 2023, authorities reported 82,000 migrants crossed through the Darién Gap, the jungles that separate Panama and Columbia, on their way to the United States.
In August 2025, there were seven.
In that corridor these days, more migrants are heading southward, away from the U.S. border.
This unprecedented event of reverse migration is in direct response to the Trump administration's push for border and immigration crackdowns.
This week on The Gaggle, we are joined by two reporters who recently traveled to Mexico and Panama to document these voyages.
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Guest: Daniel Gonzalez, Omar Ornelas
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Oct 22, 2025 • 26min
A conversation with Senator Ruben Gallego
It's been about a year since Sen. Ruben Gallego made history becoming the first Latino elected to the U.S. Senate from Arizona.
He is mostly known for lighting into President Donald Trump, Republican leadership and even his former opponent Kari Lake.
This week, we sit down with the senator to discuss some of what has transpired since he was elected to the Senate, what he thinks Democrats need to do next and what comes after the Trump era ends.
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Guest: Senator Ruben Gallego
Host: Ron Hansen
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Oct 15, 2025 • 28min
Next big political fight is already shaping up in Arizona
In less than a year, Arizonans will have a chance to decide who to send to Washington for the final two years of President Donald Trump's second administration.
David Schweikert stepping away from CD1 makes his open seat a hot competition for Republicans to keep and Democrats to flip.
In CD6, candidates are already lined up to take the district for the Dems away from Rep. Juan Ciscomani.
This week, we talk with a House races expert about how the races are shaping up so far, what each party has to do to win and what it would mean for the political atmosphere.
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Guest: Erin Covey
Host: Ron Hansen
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Oct 8, 2025 • 22min
Broken AC can be deadly. How Arizona leaders can fix it
Most Arizonans see the end of summer as a reprieve. But for some, it's a sign of survival.
Since 2020, at least 270 people in Maricopa County have died at home when their cooling systems failed or were shut off completely. The Arizona Republic dug into the records of these quiet casualties of extreme heat.
Read that report here.
This week on The Gaggle, an Arizona politics podcast, we ask an expert what can be done to fix this and what policies could be put into place.
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Guest: David Konisky
Host: Ron Hansen
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Oct 1, 2025 • 19min
Health insurance tax cut could end unless Congress acts
A key hang up causing the government shutdown involves a pandemic-era provision for Americans impacting health insurance and medical bills.
Currently, about 300,000 Arizonans earn too much to receive Medicaid help, but don't have affordable insurance options through work. This group has qualified for subsidies that cut their insurance costs from the Affordable Care Act insurers since 2021.
This relief stops at the end of the year unless Congress moves to extend it, and if aid ends, Arizonans face premium hikes that could jump by nearly $500 per month.
This week on The Gaggle, we talk with Will Humble, former state health director.
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Guest: Will Humble
Host: Ron Hansen
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Sep 24, 2025 • 32min
A new Grijalva and the future of the Epstein files
On September 23, Congressional District 7 elected Democrat Adelita Grijalva to Congress and the narrow Republican majority in the United States House of Representatives is about to be slightly thinner.
Adelita's win serves as no surprise in Arizona, but it still matters on the national scale. With her win, the GOP edge over Democrats will effectively shrink to two votes separating any measure from passing the House.
Her role could become crucial in Congress' anticipated votes over the Jeffery Epstein files, government funding and more.
This week on The Gaggle, we talk with a Republic reporter covering the race and Norman Ornstein of The American Enterprise Institute.
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Guest: Laura Gersony, Norman Ornstein
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