Evolving with Gratitude

Lainie Rowell
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Mar 31, 2026 • 45min

#151 - David Yeager on the Mentor Mindset

What if the way we lead young people is the very thing holding them back?In this episode, Dr. David Yeager, psychologist at UT Austin and author of 10 to 25: The Science of Motivating Young People, shares the “mentor mindset,” a practical approach built on high standards and high support. You will hear why wise feedback works, how the stories we tell ourselves shape motivation, and what real support looks like when it removes barriers without taking over. Thrive Global Article: David Yeager on the Mentor MindsetAbout Our Guest:David Yeager, PhD, is a professor of psychology at the University of Texas at Austin and the cofounder of the Texas Behavioral Science and Policy Institute. He is best known for his research conducted with Carol Dweck, Angela Duckworth, and Greg Walton on short but powerful interventions that influence adolescent behaviors such as motivation, engagement, healthy eating, bullying, stress, mental health, and more. He has consulted for Google, Microsoft, Disney, and the World Bank, as well as for the White House and the governments in California, Texas, and Norway. His research has been featured in The New York Times Magazine, The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, Scientific American, CNN, Fox News, The Guardian, The Atlantic, and more. Prior to his career as a scientist, he was a middle school teacher and a basketball coach. He earned his PhD and MA at Stanford University and his BA and MEd at the University of Notre Dame. He lives in Austin, Texas, with his wife and their four children.About Lainie:Lainie Rowell is a bestselling author, award-winning educator, and TEDx speaker. She is dedicated to human flourishing, focusing on community building, emotional intelligence, and honoring what makes each of us unique and dynamic through learner-driven design. She earned her degree in psychology and went on to earn both a post-graduate credential and a master's degree in education. An international keynote speaker, Lainie has presented in 41 states as well as in dozens of countries across 4 continents. As a consultant, Lainie’s client list ranges from Fortune 100 companies like Apple and Google to school districts and independent schools. Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠linktr.ee/lainierowell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.Website - ⁠LainieRowell.com⁠Instagram - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@LainieRowell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn - @LainieRowellX/Twitter - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@LainieRowell ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Evolving with Gratitude, the book is available ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ And now, Bold Gratitude: The Journal Designed for You and by You is available too!Both Evolving with Gratitude & Bold Gratitude have generous bulk pricing for purchasing 10+ copies delivered to the same location.🙌📚➡️ ⁠bit.ly/ewgbulkdiscount⁠📚➡️ ⁠bit.ly/bgbulkdiscount⁠Just fill out the forms linked above and someone will get back to you ASAP! 
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Mar 10, 2026 • 38min

#150 - George Couros on Forward, Together

What if the way we handle disagreement is one of the most important lessons we will ever absorb?In episode 150, George Couros returns for a fun, honest, and deeply practical conversation about what it really takes to move forward together in contentious times. George shares the story behind his new book, Forward, Together, and why the work of building community starts with what we model, not what we say.You will hear about:How to disagree without damaging trustA simple shift that helps people feel seen, valued, and willing to stay in the workWhy progress is not about avoiding conflict, but learning how to navigate it wellIf you are craving a better way to lead, teach, parent, or collaborate, this one will give you both hope and next steps.About Our Guest:George Couros is a worldwide leader in the area of innovative teaching, learning, and leading, and has a focus on innovation as a human endeavor. Most importantly, he is a proud father and husband.His belief that meaningful change happens when you first connect to people’s hearts, is modeled in his writing and speaking. In his 20-plus years in the field of education, he has worked at all levels of school, from K-12 as a teacher, technology facilitator, and school and district administrator, and is currently an Adjunct Instructor with the Graduate School of Education at the University of Pennsylvania.George is also the author of the books, ⁠The Innovator’s Mindset, Innovate Inside the Box, Because of a Teacher,  Because of a Teacher 2⁠, and his latest release, ⁠What Makes a Great Principal⁠.Connect with and learn from George Couros:Website: ⁠⁠georgecouros.ca⁠⁠ X/Twitter: ⁠⁠@gcouros⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠@gcouros⁠About Lainie:Lainie Rowell is a bestselling author, award-winning educator, and TEDx speaker. She is dedicated to human flourishing, focusing on community building, emotional intelligence, and honoring what makes each of us unique and dynamic through learner-driven design. She earned her degree in psychology and went on to earn both a post-graduate credential and a master's degree in education. An international keynote speaker, Lainie has presented in 41 states as well as in dozens of countries across 4 continents. As a consultant, Lainie’s client list ranges from Fortune 100 companies like Apple and Google to school districts and independent schools. Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠linktr.ee/lainierowell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.Website - ⁠LainieRowell.com⁠Instagram - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@LainieRowell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn - @LainieRowellX/Twitter - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@LainieRowell ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Evolving with Gratitude, the book is available ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ And now, Bold Gratitude: The Journal Designed for You and by You is available too!Both Evolving with Gratitude & Bold Gratitude have generous bulk pricing for purchasing 10+ copies delivered to the same location.🙌📚➡️ ⁠bit.ly/ewgbulkdiscount⁠📚➡️ ⁠bit.ly/bgbulkdiscount⁠Just fill out the forms linked above and someone will get back to you ASAP! 
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Feb 24, 2026 • 37min

#149 - Morgan Housel on the Art of Spending Money

What if the way you spend money says less about your finances and more about what you actually value? NYT Bestselling author Morgan Housel reveals why smart spending is an art, not a science, and how the choices we make with money are often driven more by status than we'd like to admit. We explore the difference between chasing happiness and finding contentment, why saving is really about purchasing independence, and how asking one simple question before every purchase can change everything.Thrive Global Article: Morgan Housel on the Art of Spending MoneyAbout Our Guest:Morgan Housel is the New York Times Bestselling author of The Psychology of Money, The Art of Spending Money, and Same As Ever. His books have sold over 11 million copies and have been translated into more than 60 languages. He is a two-time winner of the Best in Business Award from the Society of American Business Editors and Writers, and winner of the New York Times Sidney Award. MarketWatch named him one of the 50 most influential people in markets. He's a partner at The Collaborative Fund and serves on the board of directors at Markel. PodcastTwitterAbout Lainie:Lainie Rowell is a bestselling author, award-winning educator, and TEDx speaker. She is dedicated to human flourishing, focusing on community building, emotional intelligence, and honoring what makes each of us unique and dynamic through learner-driven design. She earned her degree in psychology and went on to earn both a post-graduate credential and a master's degree in education. An international keynote speaker, Lainie has presented in 41 states as well as in dozens of countries across 4 continents. As a consultant, Lainie’s client list ranges from Fortune 100 companies like Apple and Google to school districts and independent schools. Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠linktr.ee/lainierowell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.Website - ⁠LainieRowell.com⁠Instagram - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@LainieRowell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn - @LainieRowellX/Twitter - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@LainieRowell ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Evolving with Gratitude, the book is available ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ And now, Bold Gratitude: The Journal Designed for You and by You is available too!Both Evolving with Gratitude & Bold Gratitude have generous bulk pricing for purchasing 10+ copies delivered to the same location.🙌📚➡️ ⁠bit.ly/ewgbulkdiscount⁠📚➡️ ⁠bit.ly/bgbulkdiscount⁠Just fill out the forms linked above and someone will get back to you ASAP! 
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Feb 10, 2026 • 38min

#148 - Sonja Lyubomirsky on How to Feel Loved

What does it really mean to feel loved?In this conversation with Sonja Lyubomirsky, we explore why being loved isn’t the same as feeling loved, how changing the conversation can shift a relationship, and why loneliness is a moment, not an identity.This one will change how you think about connection.Thrive Global Article: Sonja Lyubomirsky on How to Feel LovedAbout Our Guest:Sonja Lyubomirsky is Distinguished Professor of Psychology at the University of California, Riverside and author of the best-selling The How of Happiness and The Myths of Happiness (published in 39 countries). Lyubomirsky and her research on the science of happiness have been the recipients of many grants and honors, including Fellow of the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS), an Honorary Doctorate from the University of Basel, the Diener Award for Outstanding Midcareer Contributions in Personality Psychology, the Christopher Peterson Gold Medal, and a Positive Psychology Prize. She lives in Santa Monica, California, with her family.About Lainie:Lainie Rowell is a bestselling author, award-winning educator, and TEDx speaker. She is dedicated to human flourishing, focusing on community building, emotional intelligence, and honoring what makes each of us unique and dynamic through learner-driven design. She earned her degree in psychology and went on to earn both a post-graduate credential and a master's degree in education. An international keynote speaker, Lainie has presented in 41 states as well as in dozens of countries across 4 continents. As a consultant, Lainie’s client list ranges from Fortune 100 companies like Apple and Google to school districts and independent schools. Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠linktr.ee/lainierowell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.Website - ⁠LainieRowell.com⁠Instagram - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@LainieRowell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn - @LainieRowellX/Twitter - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@LainieRowell ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Evolving with Gratitude, the book is available ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ And now, Bold Gratitude: The Journal Designed for You and by You is available too!Both Evolving with Gratitude & Bold Gratitude have generous bulk pricing for purchasing 10+ copies delivered to the same location.🙌📚➡️ ⁠bit.ly/ewgbulkdiscount⁠📚➡️ ⁠bit.ly/bgbulkdiscount⁠Just fill out the forms linked above and someone will get back to you ASAP! 
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Jan 27, 2026 • 38min

#147 - Jennifer Breheny Wallace on Mattering

Jennifer Breheny Wallace, award-winning journalist and bestselling author who studies mattering and achievement culture. She explains why feeling valued for who we are matters more than just succeeding. Short frameworks and everyday practices for signaling significance are discussed. Practical moves to restore worth, resist burnout, and strengthen connection are highlighted.
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Jan 13, 2026 • 43min

#146 - Maya Shankar on The Other Side of Change

What if change isn’t something to fear but something that can reveal who we really are? Cognitive scientist and podcast host Dr. Maya Shankar shares how to navigate uncertainty, redefine identity, and uncover growth on the other side of change. We talk about finding purpose when life takes an unexpected turn, why “possible selves” matter, and the surprising role distraction and gratitude play in resilience.Maya's Book:The Other Side of Change: Who We Become When Life Makes Other PlansThrive Global Article:Maya Shankar on The Other Side of ChangeAbout Our Guest:Maya Shankar is a cognitive scientist and the creator, executive producer, and host of the podcast, A Slight Change of Plans, which Apple awarded as the Best Show of the Year 2021 and which received an Ambie award from the Podcast Academy in 2022. Maya was a Senior Advisor in the Obama White House, where she founded and served as Chair of the White House Behavioral Science Team. She also served as the first Behavioral Science Advisor to the United Nations under Ban Ki-moon, and as a core member of Pete Buttigieg’s debate preparation team during his 2020 presidential run.Maya has a postdoctoral fellowship in cognitive neuroscience from Stanford, a Ph.D. in cognitive psychology from Oxford on a Rhodes Scholarship, and a B.A. from Yale. She's been profiled by The New Yorker and been the featured guest on NPR's All Things Considered, Freakonomics, and Hidden Brain. She's a graduate of the Juilliard School of Music's pre-college program, where she was a private violin student of Itzhak Perlman.About Lainie:Lainie Rowell is a bestselling author, award-winning educator, and TEDx speaker. She is dedicated to human flourishing, focusing on community building, emotional intelligence, and honoring what makes each of us unique and dynamic through learner-driven design. She earned her degree in psychology and went on to earn both a post-graduate credential and a master's degree in education. An international keynote speaker, Lainie has presented in 41 states as well as in dozens of countries across 4 continents. As a consultant, Lainie’s client list ranges from Fortune 100 companies like Apple and Google to school districts and independent schools. Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠linktr.ee/lainierowell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.Website - ⁠LainieRowell.com⁠Instagram - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@LainieRowell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn - @LainieRowellX/Twitter - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@LainieRowell ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Evolving with Gratitude, the book is available ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ And now, Bold Gratitude: The Journal Designed for You and by You is available too!Both Evolving with Gratitude & Bold Gratitude have generous bulk pricing for purchasing 10+ copies delivered to the same location.🙌📚➡️ ⁠bit.ly/ewgbulkdiscount⁠📚➡️ ⁠bit.ly/bgbulkdiscount⁠Just fill out the forms linked above and someone will get back to you ASAP! 
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Dec 2, 2025 • 38min

#145 - Dan Pink on Using Regret to Do Better

What if the emotions we try to avoid are actually pointing us toward something better? Bestselling author Daniel Pink reveals how regret can become a powerful teacher, helping us make wiser choices, live with more intention, and take the chances that truly matter. We also explore what fuels real motivation, how to master the timing of your day, and why your future self will thank you for acting boldly today.Thrive Global Article:Dan Pink on Using Regret to Do BetterAbout Our Guest:Daniel Pink is the author of seven bestselling nonfiction books on a range of topics, from human motivation to the science of timing to a graphic novel career guide.His books include the New York Times bestsellers The Power of Regret, A Whole New Mind, and When—as well as the #1 New York Times bestsellers Drive and To Sell is Human. His deeply researched works have been translated into 46 languages and have sold more than five million copies around the world.Over the years, he has also hosted a National Geographic television series, given one of the 20 most popular TED talks of all time, worked as a columnist at the Sunday Telegraph and the Washington Post, served as chief speechwriter to Vice President Al Gore, and been a clue on Jeopardy. He lives in Washington, DC, with his family.About Lainie:Lainie Rowell is a bestselling author, award-winning educator, and TEDx speaker. She is dedicated to human flourishing, focusing on community building, emotional intelligence, and honoring what makes each of us unique and dynamic through learner-driven design. She earned her degree in psychology and went on to earn both a post-graduate credential and a master's degree in education. An international keynote speaker, Lainie has presented in 41 states as well as in dozens of countries across 4 continents. As a consultant, Lainie’s client list ranges from Fortune 100 companies like Apple and Google to school districts and independent schools. Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠linktr.ee/lainierowell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.Website - ⁠LainieRowell.com⁠Instagram - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@LainieRowell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn - @LainieRowellX/Twitter - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@LainieRowell ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Evolving with Gratitude, the book is available ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ And now, Bold Gratitude: The Journal Designed for You and by You is available too!Both Evolving with Gratitude & Bold Gratitude have generous bulk pricing for purchasing 10+ copies delivered to the same location.🙌📚➡️ ⁠bit.ly/ewgbulkdiscount⁠📚➡️ ⁠bit.ly/bgbulkdiscount⁠Just fill out the forms linked above and someone will get back to you ASAP! 
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Nov 4, 2025 • 28min

#144 - Katherine Schwarzenegger Pratt on the Courage to Face Our Fears

What helps us move through fear instead of getting stuck in it? New York Times bestselling author, animal advocate, and mother Katherine Schwarzenegger Pratt shares how love, patience, and trust can turn fear into confidence. In this heartfelt conversation, we talk about her new children’s book Kat and Brandy, the healing bond between animals and kids, and the power of kindness and courage to make the world a little better.Thrive Global Article:Katherine Schwarzenegger Pratt on “Kat & Brandy” and the Courage to Face Our FearsAbout Our Guest:Katherine Schwarzenegger Pratt is aNew York Timesbest-sellingauthor, mother, and host ofthepodcast.BDA Baby.A passionate animal advocate, Katherine works as an Ambassador for BestFriends Animal Society (bestfriends.org) and the ASPCA (aspca.org). She is a Global Ambassadorfor the Special Olympics. Katherine lives with her family in Los Angeles.About Lainie:Lainie Rowell is a bestselling author, award-winning educator, and TEDx speaker. She is dedicated to human flourishing, focusing on community building, emotional intelligence, and honoring what makes each of us unique and dynamic through learner-driven design. She earned her degree in psychology and went on to earn both a post-graduate credential and a master's degree in education. An international keynote speaker, Lainie has presented in 41 states as well as in dozens of countries across 4 continents. As a consultant, Lainie’s client list ranges from Fortune 100 companies like Apple and Google to school districts and independent schools. Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠linktr.ee/lainierowell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.Website - ⁠LainieRowell.com⁠Instagram - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@LainieRowell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn - @LainieRowellX/Twitter - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@LainieRowell ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Evolving with Gratitude, the book is available ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ And now, Bold Gratitude: The Journal Designed for You and by You is available too!Both Evolving with Gratitude & Bold Gratitude have generous bulk pricing for purchasing 10+ copies delivered to the same location.🙌📚➡️ ⁠bit.ly/ewgbulkdiscount⁠📚➡️ ⁠bit.ly/bgbulkdiscount⁠Just fill out the forms linked above and someone will get back to you ASAP! 
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Oct 7, 2025 • 33min

#143 - Jamil Zaki on Hope for Cynics

In this enlightening discussion, Jamil Zaki, a Stanford psychology professor and author, challenges the myth that cynicism equates to wisdom. He reveals how cynicism actually undermines trust, health, and community. Jamil introduces the concept of hopeful skepticism, encouraging listeners to seek evidence while correcting their negative bias. He shares practical steps to foster connection and positivity, and emphasizes the importance of holding both pain and hope in life's struggles. This conversation transforms our understanding of optimism and connection.
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Sep 16, 2025 • 43min

#142 - Tal Ben-Shahar on Happiness, Stress, and the Power of MVIs

What if happiness isn’t about eliminating stress but about learning how to recover and grow from it? In this episode, Tal Ben-Shahar, bestselling author and pioneer in happiness studies, reveals how small daily shifts can boost well-being, why true resilience is about more than bouncing back, and how rethinking expectations can change everything.Thrive Global Article:Tal Ben-Shahar on Happiness, Stress, and the Power of MVIsConnect with and learn more from Tal Ben-Shahar:Website: ⁠TalBenShahar.com⁠Happiness Studies Academy: ⁠HappinessStudies.academy⁠Books: ⁠Happier, No Matter What; Happy Habits (December 2025); and many more.⁠Classes: ⁠TalBenShahar.com/classes⁠LinkedIn: ⁠Tal Ben-Shahar⁠About Our Guest:Dr. Tal Ben-Shahar is a globally renowned teacher and bestselling author whose work challenges the myth that happiness is about ease or avoidance. He taught two of the most popular courses in Harvard’s history and is the founder of the Happiness Studies Academy, where he created the world’s first Master's Degree in Happiness Studies.His message is clear: happiness is not the absence of hardship—it’s the presence of tools, mindsets, and meaning that help us grow through it. This is resilience 2.0, the kind that doesn’t just help us bounce back, but brings us back stronger.About Lainie:Lainie Rowell is a bestselling author, award-winning educator, and TEDx speaker. She is dedicated to human flourishing, focusing on community building, emotional intelligence, and honoring what makes each of us unique and dynamic through learner-driven design. She earned her degree in psychology and went on to earn both a post-graduate credential and a master's degree in education. An international keynote speaker, Lainie has presented in 41 states as well as in dozens of countries across 4 continents. As a consultant, Lainie’s client list ranges from Fortune 100 companies like Apple and Google to school districts and independent schools. Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠linktr.ee/lainierowell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.Website - ⁠LainieRowell.com⁠Instagram - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@LainieRowell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn - @LainieRowellX/Twitter - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@LainieRowell ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Evolving with Gratitude, the book is available ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ And now, Bold Gratitude: The Journal Designed for You and by You is available too!Both Evolving with Gratitude & Bold Gratitude have generous bulk pricing for purchasing 10+ copies delivered to the same location.🙌📚➡️ ⁠bit.ly/ewgbulkdiscount⁠📚➡️ ⁠bit.ly/bgbulkdiscount⁠Just fill out the forms linked above and someone will get back to you ASAP! 

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