

This Is Not A Drill with Gavin Esler
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Exploring threats to global stability from Ukraine to China to the Middle East with host Gavin Esler – former BBC News presenter, Washington correspondent and host of Newsnight – plus Ukraine-based war reporter Oz Katerji and independent conflict analyst Emma Beals. This Is Not A Drill dives deep into the dangers, corruption, conflicts, disinformation, rivalries and ruthless realpolitik that are making our world ever more dangerous.Support This Is Not A Drill on Patreon from just £3 per month to get each episode early plus bonus material and exclusive merchandise. From Podmasters, the team behind Oh God, What Now?, Paper Cuts and The Bunker.
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Oct 24, 2024 • 12min
Taster – ‘Why do people join cults?’ – from the new series of Why? with Emma Kennedy
Rick Alan Ross, a renowned cult deprogrammer and founder of the Cult Education Institute, shares his insights on the enticing yet dangerous world of cults. He discusses the psychological and social factors that entice people to join, revealing how charismatic leaders exploit vulnerabilities. The difference between admiration and obsession is highlighted, along with manipulative tactics cults use to recruit individuals, particularly through social media. Ross also explains the critical role of deprogrammers in helping individuals escape these harmful environments.

Oct 23, 2024 • 43min
How one island shapes the US-China rivalry
The transformation of China in the past quarter of a century has seen the nation become one of the world’s dominant powers alongside the United States. At the centre of this changing global balance lies the future of Taiwan, both separated from and inextricably linked to China. In the latest This Is Not A Drill, Gavin Esler asks what the Taiwan question tells us about the future of an ideological and economic rivalry, as China expert Kerry Brown discusses his new book The Taiwan Story, How A Small Island Will Dictate The Global Future. And to find out how we got here, Oriana Skylar Mastro, fellow at the Freeman Spogli Institute for International Studies, Stanford University, discusses her book Upstart: How China Became A Great Power, to chart China’s economic explosion, growing military power and expanding global influence.Support us on Patreon to keep This Is Not A Drill producing thought-provoking podcasts like this.Written and presented by Gavin Esler. Produced by Robin Leeburn. Original theme music by Paul Hartnoll – https://www.orbitalofficial.com. Executive Producer Martin Bojtos. Group Editor Andrew Harrison. This Is Not A Drill is a Podmasters production.www.podmasters.co.uk Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Oct 16, 2024 • 37min
Can democracies trust the Tech Titans?
Big Tech’s innovations have remade every aspect of everyday life – but its libertarian-fuelled political side is darker. Elon Musk has repurposed X/Twitter as an active part of Trump’s re-election campaign, platforming far right agitators like Tucker Carlson, and spreading incendiary misinformation. Brazil is locked in a legal battle with Twitter over disinformation and Telegram co-founder Pavel Durov was arrested over allegations that his platform is open to criminal abuse. Do governments need to rein in the Tech Titans? Is Big Tech undermining democracy? Gavin Esler talks to Marietje Schaake, international policy director of Stanford’s Cyber Policy Center and author of The Tech Coup: How To Save Democracy from Silicon Valley, and Scott Bade, senior analyst, geo-technology at the Eurasia Group.Support us on Patreon to keep This Is Not A Drill producing thought-provoking podcasts like this.Written and presented by Gavin Esler. Produced by Robin Leeburn. Original theme music by Paul Hartnoll – https://www.orbitalofficial.com. Executive Producer Martin Bojtos. Group Editor Andrew Harrison. This Is Not A Drill is a Podmasters production.www.podmasters.co.uk Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Oct 10, 2024 • 30min
Israel/Iran: Can America Stop A Regional War?
H.A. Hellyer, a Middle East analyst at the Carnegie Endowment, and Randa Slim, director at the Middle East Institute, delve into the escalating tensions between Israel and Hezbollah in Lebanon. They discuss the failed diplomatic efforts following the violence since October 7th. The conversation highlights the intricate interplay of military considerations and public sentiment in Lebanon. They also explore the strategic implications of Iranian actions and the urgent need for a shift towards peaceful resolutions amid increasing regional conflict.

Oct 2, 2024 • 24min
Israel / Iran: What the escalation means
Gavin Esler welcomes Professor Ali Ansari, a leading expert from the University of St Andrews. They dive into the escalating conflict in the Middle East, particularly the fraught dynamics between Israel and Iran. Ansari explores Israel's strategic moves against Hezbollah and Iran's cautious stance amid domestic discontent. They discuss the complex public sentiment in Iran, balancing sympathy for Palestinians against skepticism of Hezbollah. The conversation also touches on the challenges of de-escalation and the geopolitical landscape, emphasizing the role of the U.S. in fostering dialogue.

Sep 25, 2024 • 28min
Israel and Hezbollah latest: Netanyahu's deadly gamble
Benjamin Netanyahu, the Prime Minister of Israel, discusses the intensifying conflict with Hezbollah, detailing Israel's military strategies and recent strikes that have shaken Lebanon. He addresses the psychological impact of ongoing skirmishes and critiques the response from international allies. The conversation also touches on Iran’s strategic distance from regional proxies and the dire humanitarian situation in Lebanon, already struggling with economic collapse and a history of conflict.

Sep 18, 2024 • 36min
Are we facing a new nuclear arms race?
Ankit Panda, a senior fellow in the Nuclear Policy Program at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, discusses the looming threat of a new nuclear arms race. He explores the complexities that modern geopolitical tensions, particularly with Russia and China, bring to nuclear deterrence. Panda highlights the risks tied to the potential expiration of the New START Treaty in 2026 and the challenges of misperceptions in nuclear conflicts. The conversation also touches on the paradox of Mutually Assured Destruction and the evolving nature of military strategies involving nuclear options.

Sep 11, 2024 • 33min
How to take down the tyrants
Marcel Dirsus, an expert on tyranny and author of "How Tyrants Fall," dives deep into the psyche of dictators. He discusses the 'dictator's dilemma' where mistrust leads to poor decisions, often dooming their regimes. The unintended effects of sanctions are explored, showing how they can sometimes bolster tyrants. Dirsus also shares innovative strategies for citizens to creatively resist oppression. Ultimately, he reveals how the illusion of power can crumble and the cycles of tyranny inevitably lead to decline.

Sep 4, 2024 • 45min
The A.I. Trap
Robert Trager, co-director of the Oxford Martin AI Governance Initiative, and Shannon Vallor, Baillie Gifford Professor of Ethics at the University of Edinburgh, dive into the complex world of artificial intelligence. They explore its dual nature—offering unprecedented opportunities while posing significant risks. Key discussions include the ethical implications of AI in military applications, the potential for manipulation in democratic processes, and the urgent need for effective governance to balance innovation with accountability.

Aug 28, 2024 • 47min
Israel and Hezbollah: Is all-out war inevitable?
Oz Katerji, a knowledgeable commentator on Hezbollah, delves into the escalating tensions between Israel and the paramilitary group. He analyzes the recent missile exchanges and discusses the potential for broader conflict in the region. Katerji examines the complex influence of Hezbollah in Lebanon and its relationship with Iran, highlighting the strategic dynamics that could affect future hostilities. The conversation also touches on the fragile situation in Gaza, emphasizing the urgent need for diplomatic solutions to avert catastrophic outcomes.


