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Exploring threats to global stability from Ukraine to China to the Middle East with host Gavin Esler – former BBC News presenter, Washington correspondent and host of Newsnight – plus Ukraine-based war reporter Oz Katerji and independent conflict analyst Emma Beals. This Is Not A Drill dives deep into the dangers, corruption, conflicts, disinformation, rivalries and ruthless realpolitik that are making our world ever more dangerous.Support This Is Not A Drill on Patreon from just £3 per month to get each episode early plus bonus material and exclusive merchandise. From Podmasters, the team behind Oh God, What Now?, Paper Cuts and The Bunker.
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Mar 19, 2022 • 33min
🇺🇦 Does Finland Need NATO?
Russia’s invasion of Ukraine has Finland questioning its tradition of military non-alignment. Janne Korhonen, university professor and political activist, dials in to tell Arthur how the debate on NATO membership has shifted following Putin’s war. We're putting out irregular war bulletins covering different aspects of the Ukraine crisis. Help our work, and shape the next full series of Doomsday Watch, by supporting us on Patreon.Resources to help the Ukrainian people can be found here: https://ukrainewar.carrd.co/
“When Russia invaded in 1939, Finland was in quite a similar position to Ukraine today.”
“We joined the EU because we were afraid of Russia, but going to NATO at that time would’ve been too much.”
“The defence of Finland is not just a question for the military, but for the whole of society.”
“The last poll showed 62% of Finns are in favour in joining NATO, a complete reversal from six months ago.”
“My guess is that Finland will be NATO members before the end of this year. It’s now or never.”
“These threats Russia is making about Sweden and Finland joining NATO are nothing new. They’ve been making them for over 20 years.”
DOOMSDAY WATCH was written and presented by Arthur Snell, and produced by Robin Leeburn with Jacob Archbold. Theme tune and original music by Paul Hartnoll. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. DOOMSDAY WATCH is a Podmasters production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Mar 16, 2022 • 31min
🇺🇦 India's Deadly Dilemma
India’s tradition of military non-alignment has come under huge strain with Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. The world’s second most populous country has tried to maintain a neutral stance, but has come under sharp criticism from the West as casualties from the conflict mount. What explains India’s stance, and what does it hope to achieve? Harsh Pant, International relations professor at Kings College London’s India Institute, joins Arthur Snell to discuss.We're putting out irregular war bulletins covering different aspects of the Ukraine crisis. Help our work, and shape the next full series of Doomsday Watch, by supporting us on Patreon.Resources to help the Ukrainian people can be found here: https://ukrainewar.carrd.co/
“This crisis has exposed India’s vulnerabilities, they’re very reliant on Russia for their defence capabilities.”
“As this conflict has dragged on, the Indian Government has become increasingly uncomfortable with its position.”
“Ironically India is the only country that needs both Russia and the West on its side.”
“The Covid period showed that over reliance on China is not healthy.”
“Russia and China getting together is perhaps one of the worst nightmares for India.”
“India is drifting away from Russia and towards the West, that is a long-term trend.”
DOOMSDAY WATCH was written and presented by Arthur Snell, and produced by Robin Leeburn with Jacob Archbold. Theme tune and original music by Paul Hartnoll. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. DOOMSDAY WATCH is a Podmasters production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Mar 13, 2022 • 39min
🇺🇦 Where Russia’s War Went Wrong
Two weeks into Putin’s invasion of Ukraine, and things aren’t going to plan. Kyiv is still yet to fall, and Russian troops have failed to make substantial progress against fierce Ukrainian resistance. Defence analyst and military historian Dr Peter Caddick-Adams joins Arthur Snell to pinpoint where Russia’s shameful war went wrong… and what could happen next.We're putting out irregular war bulletins covering different aspects of the Ukraine crisis. Help our work, and shape the next full series of Doomsday Watch, by supporting us on Patreon.Resources to help the Ukrainian people can be found here: https://ukrainewar.carrd.co/
“Russia still has conscription, and we in the west don’t understand how badly conscripts are treated.”
“Zelensky has become Churchill. His words and the way he delivers them have a real sense of validity.”
“Standing up to Putin is like standing up to Josef Stalin. It’s simply not an option.”
“While Russia wants to control Ukraine, it doesn’t want to occupy it. Their army is nowhere near big enough.”
“The more Putin pulls off his gloves, the more the world is turns back to 1989.”
“This is a war where history is really relevant. There are parallels with city battles from World War 2.”
DOOMSDAY WATCH was written and presented by Arthur Snell, and produced by Robin Leeburn with Jacob Archbold. Theme tune and original music by Paul Hartnoll. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. DOOMSDAY WATCH is a Podmasters production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Mar 9, 2022 • 39min
🇺🇦 Putin’s Disastrous Miscalculation
Is Russia’s fiasco in Ukraine just Putin’s monstrous folly? Or does the Russian military have even bigger problems? Arthur Snell hears from KCL Lecturer for German and European Studies Alexander Clarkson about how a flawed image of Ukraine as a failed state sowed the seeds of Russia’s embarrassment. And how, when Putin invaded Crimea in 2014, he inadvertently began training a generation of fighters who do not know how to give up.Sound quality warning! This time Arthur records from a car park in Swindon. Never let it be said that we don’t go the extra mile for the Doomsday Watch faithful.We're putting out irregular war bulletins covering different aspects of the Ukraine crisis. Help our work, and shape the next full series of Doomsday Watch, by supporting us on Patreon.Resources to help the Ukrainian people can be found here: https://ukrainewar.carrd.co/
“How are you going to occupy a country of 21m people with a force of 150,000 troops? It’s La La Land.”
“The Russians talked themselves into a position where they had to attack something.”
“What really matters is, when everything goes to hell around you, can you stay calm? Some 400,000 Ukrainians have crossed that psychological threshold. Whatever hits them, they can do what has to be done."
“Everything the Russians have done is just very… weird. Everything they do triggers what they’re trying to prevent.”
“If Ukraine survives, very mid-sized states will conclude that, you know what? We can fuck the Americans or the Chinese.”
DOOMSDAY WATCH was written and presented by Arthur Snell, and produced by Robin Leeburn with Jacob Archbold. Theme tune and original music by Paul Hartnoll. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. DOOMSDAY WATCH is a Podmasters production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Mar 6, 2022 • 37min
🇺🇦 How Far Can NATO Go?
The bogeyman of NATO expansion was Putin’s pretext to invade Ukraine. Can NATO act now to stop Russia’s war – or would that trigger nuclear conflict? Is a No-Fly Zone practical? Former NATO representative in Moscow and now Chatham House associate fellow John Lough tells Arthur Snell about the latest state of play with NATO and the long-term implications of the most dangerous security crisis in Europe since 1945.We're putting out irregular war bulletins covering different aspects of the Ukraine crisis. Help our work, and shape the next full series of Doomsday Watch, by supporting us on Patreon.Resources to help the Ukrainian people can be found here: https://ukrainewar.carrd.co/
“This operation is not playing out as Russia expected. They thought the blitzkrieg would work – but they have fatally misread Ukraine.”
“Two generations of Ukrainians have been born into freedom. The heroism they’ve shown in recent days is extraordinary.”
“Will we see an incident at the border as NATO attempts to deliver ammunition to Ukraine? There’s a lot of danger there.”
“We are prosecuting our own hybrid warfare now – economic war… Russia will go back to the Soviet Union on steroids.”
“The disaster in Ukraine can only lead to Putin leaving office a lot earlier. And it may bring the entire system down.”
“Russia has entered a quagmire that will lead to an embarrassing defeat. No amount of state propaganda can cover up that.”
DOOMSDAY WATCH was written and presented by Arthur Snell, and produced by Robin Leeburn with Jacob Archbold. Theme tune and original music by Paul Hartnoll. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. DOOMSDAY WATCH is a Podmasters production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Mar 4, 2022 • 23min
🇺🇦 “High treason”: Belarus’s Tyrant Stands By Putin
Putin has few friends – but one is Belarusian despot Alexander Lukashenko. Belarusian democracy activist and reporter Hanna Liubakova talks to Arthur Snell from exile in Lithuania, to explain how Lukashenko dragged her country into the war – and what the world can expect from Putin’s stooge. What price will Belarus pay for Lukashenko’s fealty?We're putting out irregular war bulletins covering different aspects of the Ukraine crisis. Help our work, and shape the next full series of Doomsday Watch, by supporting us on Patreon.Resources to help the Ukrainian people can be found here: https://ukrainewar.carrd.co/
“Lukashenko has made us a full-fledged aggressor in this war… We in Belarus believe this is high treason.”
“Most Belarusians don’t want this war. They don’t want to threaten our neighbour.”
“Lukashenko is giving away our sovereignty and independence to Russia… He’s not making the major decisions. Putin is.”
“We had seen Donbass, Crimea, Georgia, Moldova… but we could not imagine that a fully-fledged attack on a sovereign country could take place.”
“The weaker Lukashenko is, the weaker Putin is.”
DOOMSDAY WATCH was written and presented by Arthur Snell, and produced by Robin Leeburn with Jacob Archbold. Theme tune and original music by Paul Hartnoll. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. DOOMSDAY WATCH is a Podmasters production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Mar 3, 2022 • 37min
🇺🇦 Ukraine’s Courage Stuns the World
Kyiv is under siege but Putin’s invasion is going badly. How far will Russia’s ruler go to win his monstrous gamble? And what can the West do to stop him? In the first of our irregular Ukraine War bulletins we talk to Ukrainian journalists Artyom Liss and Kyiv-based Romeo Kokriatski about the balance of power in Ukraine, the resolve of President Zelensky, and Putin’s doomsday psychology.We’ll be releasing special Ukraine War bulletins on an irregular basis as new developments arise. Help us keep podcasting, and shape the next full series of Doomsday Watch, by supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/doomsdaywatch
“It seems crazy that it has only been six days. At this point, I can’t even remember what peace was like.” – Romeo Kokriatski
“I don’t think anyone could have predicted this level of carnage, this level of destruction or this level of madness.” – Artyom Liss
DOOMSDAY WATCH was written and presented by Arthur Snell, and produced by Robin Leeburn with Jacob Archbold. Theme tune and original music by Paul Hartnoll. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. DOOMSDAY WATCH is a Podmasters production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Feb 2, 2022 • 52min
Emergency Edition: The Ukraine Crisis
As tensions rise on the Ukrainian border, are we looking at the first ground war in Europe since 1945? In an emergency roundtable edition of Doomsday Watch, Arthur Snell asks a panel of experts what’s driving Putin’s thinking, how far he and Russia are willing to go to achieve their aims, and if a disastrous conflict can be averted.Want to support us, get episodes early and extra content? Support us on Patreon and back us from just £3 per month now.
“The question is less, ‘Is Russia going to invade?’ and more ‘When will Russia invade?’” - Romeo Kokriatski
“The only person who knows what Putin is planning to do is Putin himself. It all depends on his mood when he wakes up in the morning.” - Artyom Liss
“Putin saw the fall of the Soviet Union as a catastrophe. I wouldn’t fault anyone for thinking that he may want to rebuild the empire.” - Romeo Kokriatski
“Younger people who are more western-oriented, are quite embarrassed by Russia’s position on Ukraine.” - Artyom Liss
“The longer this goes on, European partners are likely to become more aligned with each other .” - John Lough
“Russian is only scared of NATO in that NATO prevents Russia from bullying its neighbours around.” - Romeo Kokriatski
DOOMSDAY WATCH was written and presented by Arthur Snell, and produced by Robin Leeburn – with assistant production from Jacob Archbold. Theme tune and original music by Paul Hartnoll. The group editor is Andrew Harrison. DOOMSDAY WATCH is a Podmasters production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jan 26, 2022 • 1h 24min
Season Finale: Where Do We Go From Here?
In this series we’ve looked at under-reported threats to global stability, from the psychology of Xi Jinping to the coming water crisis to the War on Truth. But what happens next? In this extended end-of-season edition, Arthur Snell steps back to look at the big picture with experts in geopolitics, future warfare and the Chinese, Russian and American superpowers. Can the world pull itself from the brink – or is our Long Peace coming to an end? Season Two of Doomsday Watch is coming soon. Help us shape it and get new episodes early when you support us on Patreon.• “What we’ve seen is the loss of the structures that have contained violence.” – Dr Mike Martin• “Americans are tired – tired of not only of being at war, but also as being perceived as being warmongers.” – Candace Rondeaux• “People will fight for a cause. That cause can be nationalism, to serve a particular master or to promote a different vision of society.” – Margaret MacMillan• “You saw it with defeat in Afghanistan: the West does not have confidence in its own values, nor the staying power to implement them anywhere else.” – Ian Dunt• “We are in a very dangerous situation, where we face the potential of weapons systems outside of human control that perhaps can’t be stopped.” – Margaret MacMillan• “I worry now that we’re entering a stage where we might have a big war. I think there’s a 50-50 chance.” – Dr Mike Martin• “All around me I see people wanting to take on populism, who want a better kind of world that makes sense.” – Ian DuntDOOMSDAY WATCH was written and presented by Arthur Snell, and produced by Robin Leeburn – with assistant production from Jacob Archbold. Theme tune and original music by Paul Hartnoll. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. DOOMSDAY WATCH is a Podmasters production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jan 19, 2022 • 54min
The War On Truth
The Cold Warriors of the postwar world never dreamed that Western democracies would come to rely on a global information network – and that our very openness could be turned against us. As the stories of Brexit, COVID and Trump coalesce into one nightmare tale of disinformation and weaponised lying, Arthur Snell asks whether democracy can survive in a post-truth world. If you control the information space, do you control the future? And after the pandemic, can we withstand the infodemic?Want to support us, get episodes early and extra content? Support us on Patreon and back us from just £3 per month now.• “If you’ve got enough money, you can ensure that people hear your talking points day in day out, hour after hour.” – Amil Khan• “COVID was a means to test these weapons. Climate denial is the next battleground, and it will make the anti-lockdown and COVID stuff look like child’s play.” – Darren Loucaides• “If tech companies can’t moderate memes and text, how on Earth are they going to moderate the Metaverse?” — Nina Jankowicz• “Soviet Union was Terminator 1: bulky and ungainly. Now Putin’s Russia is Terminator 2, very fluid and adaptable.” – Peter Pomerantsev• “Our systems are threatened not by people who are suffering but by comfortable middle class people who are bored and looking to go on a crusade.” — Tom Nichols• “What is shocking is how fast people will jump from a failure of policy itself to the idea that the whole edifice of liberal democracy needs to be junked in favour of a celebrity strongman.” — Tom Nichols• “Our openness is a weakness. We can’t go into Russia and broadcast like the BBC can – but RT can come here and say anything it likes.” – Nina JankowiczDOOMSDAY WATCH was written and presented by Arthur Snell, and produced by Robin Leeburn – with assistant production from Jacob Archbold. Theme tune and original music by Paul Hartnoll. The group editor is Andrew Harrison. DOOMSDAY WATCH is a Podmasters production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices


