Town Hall Seattle Civics Series

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Mar 26, 2026 • 1h 1min

404. Evelyn Iritani with Frank Abe: Safe Passage: The Exchange of American and Japanese Civilians by Sea

Across the water from Seattle, you can visit the Bainbridge Island Japanese American Exclusion Memorial. It's a place to honor and learn from the past. Evelyn Iritani, a longtime Seattle resident and Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist, wants to remember – and learn from – another, lesser-known story from World War II. In her book, Safe Passage, she reveals the dramatic, behind-the-scenes efforts to bring U.S. and Japanese citizens home from enemy land. In 1943, during some of the Pacific theater's bloodiest battles, the United States and Japan coordinated the exchange of civilians caught on the wrong side of the battlefield after Pearl Harbor. Nearly fifteen hundred Allied civilians trapped in Asia, mostly U.S. citizens, sailed through dangerous waters to India, where they were traded for Japanese immigrants sent from the U.S. The fate of the more than ten thousand U.S. civilians left behind in Asia rested on the success of this endeavor. Engineering these wartime exchanges was fraught within and outside the U.S. government. The U.S. uprooted and repatriated Japanese citizens of Latin America, sometimes against their will. People imprisoned in camps like Bainbridge Island, many of them American citizens, were forced to choose between expulsion to a war zone in Japan or an uncertain future behind barbed wire. Through these stories, Iritani explains how messy humanitarian efforts can be in wartime and illuminates the lasting effects of racism throughout U.S. history. Evelyn Iritani is the author of An Ocean Between Us: The Changing Relationship of Japan and the United States, Told in Four Stories from the Life of an American Town. She is a former reporter for the Seattle Post-Intelligencer and the Los Angeles Times, where her reporting garnered numerous awards, including the 2004 Pulitzer Prize for National Reporting for a series she coauthored on Walmart. Frank Abe is lead author of the graphic novel, WE HEREBY REFUSE: Japanese American Resistance to Wartime Incarceration, a Finalist in Creative Nonfiction for the Washington State Book Award, and co-editor with Floyd Cheung of a new Penguin Classics anthology, THE LITERATURE OF JAPANESE AMERICAN INCARCERATION. He won an American Book Award as co-editor of JOHN OKADA: The Life & Rediscovered Work of the Author of No-No Boy, and wrote and directed the award-winning PBS documentary CONSCIENCE AND THE CONSTITUTION." He is currently developing a new stage adaptation of Okada's NO-NO BOY. Buy the Book Safe Passage: The Untold Story of Diplomatic Intrigue, Betrayal​, and the Exchange of American and Japanese Civilians by Sea During W​o​rld War II Elliott Bay Book Company
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Mar 22, 2026 • 1h 34min

403. We Hold These Truths: A Live Broadcast of the 1941 Bill of Rights Radio Special

Celebrate the 234th anniversary of the Bill of Rights and the historic December 15, 1941, radio broadcast of We Hold These Truths with a live performance and radio event at Town Hall Seattle. Known as the poet laureate of American radio, Norman Corwin wrote We Hold These Truths months before its original airing. But after the attack on Pearl Harbor on December 7, the program—created to honor the Bill of Rights on its 150th anniversary—took on new emotional depth and national significance. This production commemorates both the Bill of Rights and Corwin's landmark broadcast, featuring a cast of prominent local broadcasters and public figures. Feliks Banel is an award-winning broadcaster and historian based in Seattle. Presented by Town Hall Seattle, SPACE 101.1 FM, and Cascade of History.
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Mar 9, 2026 • 1h 22min

402. Cynthia Miller-Idriss and Jen Barnes: Man Up: The New Misogyny

As political violence, mass shootings, and the actions of radical extremists continue to be a devastating presence in our news cycle, academics and experts are compelled to look for connections. What things do most mass shooters, terrorists, or violent extremists have in common? In her newest book, educator and scholar of extremism Cynthia Miller-Idriss expands upon the roles of gender in this conversation – that not only are these violent acts almost always carried out by men and boys, but that evidence of aggressive misogyny, homophobia, or transphobia occurs at nearly the same rates within the perpetrators of these crimes. Man Up: The New Misogyny and the Rise of Violent Extremism seeks to shed light on an increased presence of gender-based violence across a range of incidents and forms extremist groups. Through extensive research and five distinct case studies, Man Up draws attention to violent events where motivations of racism, antisemitism, or xenophobia are still supported by throughlines of misogynistic aggression. From the misogynistic language in the plot to kidnap and execute Michigan governor Gretchen Whitmer to the prior reports of stalking, harassment of women, and domestic violence by the men behind the mass shooting events at Virginia Tech and Pulse nightclub. Miller-Idriss also provides her analysis on the centering of gendered discrimination within far-right and male supremacist culture – a rising misogynistic force that has resulted in increasing numbers of attacks internationally, specifically targeting women and citing feminism or sexual frustration with women as motivation. Miller-Idriss posits that these interconnected threads of misogyny have been underrepresented in the media and with experts in a way that leaves us vulnerable to hate-fueled violence of all forms, both online and out in the world. From interpersonal instances of sexism to extreme far-right ideologies and mass violence events, Miller-Idriss explores how an epidemic of misogyny and a patriarchal backlash can act as driving factors in this rise in violence. Man Up aims to give insight on how this culture shift has developed, how to recognize the misogyny in our everyday lives, and presents strategies that everyone – including parents, teachers, and counselors – can use to push back against these forms of violence. Dr. Cynthia Miller-Idriss is an internationally recognized scholar, speaker, and author on the subjects of extremism and radicalization. She is the founding director of the Polarization and Extremism Research & Innovation Lab (PERIL) at the American University in Washington, DC, where she is also a Professor in the School of Public Affairs and in the School of Education. She regularly testifies before the U.S. Congress and works with agencies globally on trends in domestic violent extremism and strategies for prevention and disengagement. Her work and expertise have been featured by MSNBC, CNN, NPR, The New York Times, The Atlantic, Foreign Affairs, and more. Her previously published books include Hate in the Homeland and The Extreme Gone Mainstream. Jen Barnes is the CEO and founder of Rough & Tumble. She is an advocate, entrepreneur, and life-long athlete committed to building community around gender equity and visibility for women's sports. Buy the Book Man Up: The New Misogyny and the Rise of Violent Extremism Elliott Bay Book Company
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Mar 5, 2026 • 1h 16min

401. Black Thoughts: An Evening With Martellus Bennett, Michael Bennett, and Jesse Hagopian

Three voices at the intersections of art, education, and social critique come together for an evening of readings and conversation. Jesse Hagopian will share from his forthcoming book Teach Truth: The Struggle for Antiracist Education, while Martellus Bennett (MR. TOMONOSHi) and Michael Bennett will read from their own works, including Black Thoughts and Things That Make White People Uncomfortable. Together, they'll engage in a wide-ranging conversation on race, creativity, justice, and liberation, offering perspectives that draw from literature, design, sport, and activism. Martellus Bennett (MR. TOMONOSHi) is a multidisciplinary author and the founder of TOMONOSHi! Publishing, the home of his ceremonial philosophy, the TOMONOSHi Gospel. His work is a celebration of the fantastical whimsy of Black life, a poetic exploration of ancestral memory, and a form of Black American Futurism. Michael Bennett is an interdisciplinary designer whose work translates the forms and languages of the African diaspora into spatial practice. His approach moves across architecture, sculpture, and furniture, engaging design through structure, material, and scale. Michael is beloved in Seattle as a Super Bowl champion with the Seahawks and has also made a name for himself as a sharp cultural critic. His New York Times bestselling book, Things That Make White People Uncomfortable, offers an honest and often humorous critique of racism, sports, and power in U.S. society. Jesse Hagopian is the descendant of African ancestors who endured and resisted enslavement in Mississippi and Louisiana, and Armenian ancestors who survived genocide. Today, Jesse is a Seattle-based educator and the author of Teach Truth: The Struggle for Antiracist Education. He is an editor at Rethinking Schools magazine, a columnist for Truthout, a founding member of Black Lives Matter at School, and the Director of the Zinn Education Project's Teaching for Black Lives campaign. Jesse is also the co-editor of Teaching Palestine: Lessons, Stories, Voices, Black Lives Matter at School: An Uprising for Educational Justice, Teaching for Black Lives, and Teacher Unions and Social Justice, as well as the editor of More Than a Score: The New Uprising Against High-Stakes Testing.
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Feb 9, 2026 • 1h 22min

400. Clyde W. Ford: Who's Left Out of Black History

How much do you know about Black history? From African women's rebellions on slave ships to a former enslaved man whose account of the first Juneteenth differs from what we hear today, to Benjamin Banneker's life, to how Islam found its way into American popular music in multiple genres, there is a lot of information that doesn't necessarily make it into your average curriculum. In A High Price for Freedom: Raising Hidden Voices From the African-American Past, author and historian Clyde W. Ford addresses these and other topics, seeking to illuminate and amplify little-known figures from the past, from Elizabeth Key's court case in the 1600s to the true mission of the marches in Selma to more modern accounts. The title of the book takes its name from a young man named Jimmie Lee Jackson, who was killed in 1965 by an Alabama state trooper. As he lay dying in the only hospital that would treat Black people, Jimmie Lee whispered to his nurse, a nun, "Sister, isn't this a high price for freedom?" Ford's latest release includes factual accounts about people and events in the African-American past that teach things many of us never learned and may challenge the stories we thought we knew. Clyde W. Ford is the author of fifteen works of fiction and nonfiction, and is a psychotherapist, an accomplished mythologist, and a sought-after public speaker. In 2006, Ford received the Zora Neale Hurston/Richard Wright Award in African American fiction. In 2019, he was named a finalist for the Hurston/Wright Award in African American nonfiction. In 2021, Clyde received the prestigious Washington Center for the Book Award, the Nautilus Book Award in Social Justice, and was a finalist for the Goddard-Russo Prize in Social Justice for Think Black. Clyde was honored as a "Literary Lion" by the King County Library System in 2006, 2007, 2008, and 2019. He was voted "Best Writer of Bellingham, Washington" in 2006 and 2007 by readers of Cascadia Weekly and received the 2007 Bellingham Mayor's Arts Award in Literature. Ford is currently a speaker for Humanities Washington, an affiliate of the NEA, where he presents a program entitled, "Technology, Race and Social Justice," around the state. He is also the Director of the Martin Luther King, Jr. Library Publishing Project at HarperCollins. Clyde has participated in hundreds of media interviews and has appeared on the Oprah Winfrey Show, New Dimensions Radio, and NPR. He lives in Bellingham, Washington, where he founded the city's annual Martin Luther King Day commemoration in 1991, and enjoys walking the mountains and cruising the waters of the Pacific Northwest. Buy the Book A High Price for Freedom: Raising Hidden Voices from the African American Past Third Place Books
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Feb 9, 2026 • 1h 25min

399. Indigenous Peoples' Day: Turning Adversaries into Tribal Allies to Save Salmon

Our region is facing tremendous setbacks for salmon populations and Northwest tribal treaty rights. Fish runs continue to fall short while Indigenous communities bear the brunt of climate change, political polarization, and existential threats to their way of life. Tribes can't overcome these issues alone, but it's not just a matter of finding allies — it's how to get them in the game. The Billy Frank Jr. Salmon Coalition, formed by Salmon Defense, has taken an innovative approach to protect salmon, restore ecosystems, and build climate resilience by uniting unexpected allies, who have often been at odds in the past. ​This diverse coalition includes tribal leaders, scientists, state and local officials, fishers, attorneys, conservation groups, and local industries. Join us on Indigenous Peoples' Day, for a conversation offering a timely reminder that Indigenous knowledge systems are not only vital to climate resiliency but must also be centered in policy-driven solutions. See how cross-cultural dialogue can help foster creativity and how lasting alliances are strengthened by collaboration amongst groups with different viewpoints. Peggen Frank (SeiiNiiSeii) is a leader in salmon conservation, tribal advocacy, and treaty rights protection. Since joining Salmon Defense in 2011, she has helped grow the nonprofit into a powerful conservation organization focused on education, advocacy, and litigation. Her key projects include the Billy Frank Jr. curriculum, a sčədadxʷ (salmon) education video, and the Salmon Warriors campaign. Peggen is an enrolled member of the Northern Arapaho Tribe, born and raised on the Wind River Indian Reservation, and now lives in the homelands of the Nisqually Indian people. As Executive Director of Salmon Defense, Peggen manages the likeness and legacy of Billy Frank Jr., ensuring his influence inspires future generations. Kadi Bizyayeva is the Stillaguamish Tribe of Indians vice-chairwoman, fisheries director, and Northwest Indian Fisheries commissioner. She was also appointed to the Washington Salmon Recovery Funding Board by Gov. Jay Inslee. Kadi is passionate about her role protecting and conserving tribal treaty rights and believes in honest co-management and finding common ground. Her experience includes assisting with project oversight and policy guidance, as well as accounting and administration in several roles within the Northwest Indian Fisheries Commission and the Stillaguamish Tribes' Natural Resources Department, where she has worked since 2013. Along with her professional roles and achievements, Kadi is also a wife, mother, and a tribal fisher and hunter. Ron Garner is president of the Puget Sound Anglers State Board, a member of the Billy Frank Jr. Salmon Coalition and a key member of the Western Washington sportfishing community. In 2018, he had the rare honor for a nontribal member – let alone a sportfisherman – of attending a Northwest Indian Fisheries Commission meeting. Ron is passionate about advocating for habitat restoration and reconnection in the Stillaguamish River watershed to promote healthy salmon populations, particularly endangered Chinook. His experience also includes serving on several Washington State Department of Fish and Wildlife advisory committees and task forces related to marine wildlife. Along with his sportfishing community leadership experience and advocacy, Ron is a self-employed commercial construction business owner. William Frank III served on the Nisqually Tribal Council for many years in several roles, including chairman, and currently serves as chairman of the Wa He Lut Indian School and the Salmon Defense board. He also runs Medicine Creek Tribal Strategies, an independent consulting firm. William is the son of the late Billy Frank Jr., a nationally recognized leader and activist for tribal rights and protecting salmon. His father helped tribes win the landmark 1975 court case that recognized treaty rights and made tribes co-managers of the salmon resource. This court decision completely changed the landscape in Washington after the Fish Wars or 'fish-ins' of the 1960s and 1970s, a series of civil disobedience protests where tribal fishers were arrested, beaten, and jailed for fishing off reservation in their 'usual and accustomed fishing grounds' – as granted by the treaties negotiated in the mid-1800s. As a leader, fisher, and member of the Billy Frank Jr. Salmon Coalition, he carries on his father's legacy of bringing together diverse groups of experts to advocate for salmon and the environment. Cecilia Gobin (dzahdzah'lahk) is a member of the Tulalip Tribes, based in Tulalip, Washington. She is an experienced Policy Analyst, currently working with the Northwest Indian Fisheries Commission (NWIFC) where she focuses on the protection and advancement of tribal treaty rights and resources, including habitat protection and salmon recovery. Prior to NWIFC, Cecilia worked in cultural resources for the Tulalip Tribes, and also for the U.S. House of Representatives' House Natural Resources Committee's Office of Indian Affairs, working with policy and legislation related to natural resources and the effects for tribes in Indian Country. She is also a lifetime commercial fisher and remains deeply connected to her community and traditional lifeways. Lisa Wilson has extensive experience in fisheries policy and treaty rights protection. She earned a bachelor's degree in Native Environmental Science from Northwest Indian College, where she produced the documentary Time Immemorial: A Fishing History of the Lummi People as her capstone project. Lisa primarily serves as an elected member of the Lummi Indian Business Council and as vice chair of the Northwest Indian Fisheries Commission. She is also on the Salmon Defense board, co-chairs the Natural Resources Committee for the Affiliated Tribes of Northwest Indians and the Lands and Natural Resources Committee for the National Congress of American Indians and is the former Endangered Species Act manager for Lummi Natural Resources. Presented by Town Hall Seattle and the Billy Frank Jr. Salmon Coalition.
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Jan 8, 2026 • 1h 11min

398. Speaking of Seattle: After the Ballot

Just weeks after Seattle's November elections, Town Hall Seattle kicks off a timely, can't-miss series hosted by Marcus Harrison Green. The panel features political strategist Crystal Fincher, The Stranger's news editor Vivian McCall, and the South Seattle Emerald's political columnist Tobias Coughlin-Bogue. Together they'll cut through the noise to unpack what the results really mean—from who's setting the agenda at City Hall to what's looming in Olympia, and connect it all to the turbulent political currents in Washington, D.C. Expect an unflinching, illuminating conversation about what's next for Seattle, the state, and our role in shaping the national story. Host Marcus Harrison Green is the publisher of Hinton Publishing, the founder of the South Seattle Emerald, and a columnist with The Stranger. Growing up in South Seattle, he experienced first-hand the impact of one-dimensional stories on marginalized communities, which taught him the value of authentic narratives. After an unfulfilling stint in the investment world during his twenties, Marcus returned to his community with a newfound purpose of telling stories with nuance, complexity, and multidimensionality with the hope of advancing social change. This led him to become a writer and found the South Seattle Emerald. An award-winning journalist, he was awarded the Seattle Human Rights Commissions' Individual Human Rights Leader Award for 2020 and named the inaugural James Baldwin Fellow by the Northwest African American Museum in 2022. Panelists Crystal Fincher is the Executive Director of KVRU 105.7 FM, an independent non-profit community radio station in South Seattle that she and her business partner recently acquired. She also publishes and hosts Hacks & Wonks, the region's premier podcast about local politics and policy. Crystal led an award-winning political consulting firm for 15 years, helping elect state and local candidates and pass ballot measures across the West Coast. Crystal's work has always been rooted in community mobilization and economic development, serving on the City of Kent Land Use & Planning Board, as a Deputy on the Washington Roundtable, and on the boards of Kent Youth and Family Services, the Northwest Association of Financial Professionals, Tabor 100, and the Washington Institute for a Democratic Future. She currently serves on the boards of Progress Alliance of Washington and The Urbanist. Vivian McCall is The Stranger's News Editor. In her private life, she is a musician and Wii U apologist. If you're reading this, you either love her or hate her. Tobias Coughlin-Bogue is a writer, editor, and restaurant worker who lives in South Park. He was formerly the associate editor of Real Change News and has since covered politics for The Stranger and the South Seattle Emerald. Presented by Town Hall Seattle and The Stranger.
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Nov 3, 2025 • 1h 3min

397. Advancing Climate Resilience with Connected Communities

Town Hall Seattle, Juneau Street Resilience Pod, and the City of Seattle's Office of Sustainability and Environment hosts an evening with climate justice leaders who are reimagining our climate future in Seattle and beyond; discussing how community leaders, local government and academia can use joy and storytelling to build relationships and actualize climate resilience strategies, and sharing more about the upcoming One Seattle Climate Action Plan Update, including how you can get involved! Moderator Nancy Huizar (they/them/theirs) is an environmental justice activist, facilitator, and consultant. They believe that everything we are doing to further environmental justice needs to address and connect to how people — particularly people of color — are impacted. Because the environmental movement has historically shut out communities of color, their work focuses on tending to, understanding, and centering the needs and health of communities of color. Panelists Lylianna Allala is Interim Deputy Director for the City of Seattle's Office of Sustainability and Environment. Previously she served as the Climate Justice Director in the Office of Sustainability & Environment. In her current role, she provides strategic leadership and direction on policies and programs that address the root causes and impacts of climate change including citywide implementation of Seattle's Equity & Environment Initiative and Seattle's Green New Deal. Prior to joining the City of Seattle, Lylianna led climate & environmental policy & outreach for U.S Congresswoman Pramila Jayapal. She began her career in habitat restoration and ecology focusing on upland and urban forests, and wetlands. She is a co-creator of the Growing Old podcast, a 2019 Henry M. Jackson Foundation Leadership Fellow, and an alumna of the 2024 Obama Foundation Leaders USA program. She currently serves as a co-facilitator for the Obama Leaders Climate Community of Practice. Debolina Banerjee (she/hers) is a Senior Climate Policy Manager at Puget Sound Sage. Her work includes research-based analysis of climate policies, campaign support on climate justice issues, and building power within Sage's local and statewide climate coalitions. Debolina has research experience in transit-oriented development, the environmental impacts of unorganized industries and project management for real estate development. In addition, she has extensive experience working with grassroots activists and marginalized communities in India, organizing for social justice around food, sustainable agriculture, clean environment, community development, and women's empowerment. Aya de León is the Poet Laureate of the City of Berkeley, and she teaches creative writing at UC Berkeley. Kensington Books publishes her novels for adults, including the "Justice Hustlers" series and several standalone novels. Candlewick Books publishes Aya's "Factory" series for younger readers. Aya has appeared in the New York Times' "By the Book" and has received acclaim in the Washington Post, the Village Voice, and SF Chronicle. Her words have also appeared in Harper's Bazaar, The Guardian UK, and on Def Poetry. A graduate of Harvard College, with an MFA in fiction from Antioch University Los Angeles, Aya has been an artist in residence at Stanford University, a Cave Canem poetry fellow, and a slam poetry champion. In spring 2022, she organized an online conference entitled Black Literature vs. the Climate Emergency (available on YouTube). She's also on Instagram. In 2025, she kicked off her new project, Formation, an intergenerational community organizing project through the arts. She organizes with the Black Hive, the climate and environmental justice formation of the Movement for Black Lives. She is also involved with the Working Families Party and writes and choreographs social justice line dances to bring joy to political movements. Dr. Esther Min received her PhD in Environmental and Occupational Hygiene from the University of Washington and her Master of Public Health with emphasis in community health from Touro University, California. Her focus is to build research processes and projects that uplift the voices of Black, Indigenous and people of color, and frontline communities and organizations are elevated, and their priorities and goals of environmental justice are supported by academic researchers and practitioners. Esther is the Director of Community Innovation, Evaluation, and Learning at Front and Centered, a coalition of frontline community organizations working on environmental and climate justice policies in the state of WA. She is also a Clinical Associate Professor at the University of Washington's School of Public Health where she teaches an environmental justice course for undergrad and graduate students, and conducts research-to-action type projects. Presented by Town Hall Seattle, Juneau Street Resilience Pod, and the City of Seattle's Office of Sustainability and Environment.
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Oct 31, 2025 • 1h 32min

396. In the Spirit of Right and Respectful Relations: Conversations about Indigenous Ways of Knowing and Being in Nature

In relationship with Se'Si'Le, Braided River is celebrating the launch of their newest project, In the Spirit of Right and Respectful Relations: Conversations about Indigenous Ways of Knowing and Being in Nature. As told to Kurt Russo, with a foreword by Jay Julius Xw'tot lhem, and illustrations by Fiorella De La O (Quechua), this book invites readers into a conversation rooted in Indigenous ways of knowing and being in nature. The vision of the project is to draw on ancestral knowledge to further empower and inspire Indigenous-led environmental campaigns with non-Indigenous allies and partners to the benefit of Mother Earth and all her relations down to the seventh generation. Come be a part of the celebration of this inaugural project, with a night full of powerful Pacific Northwest speakers. Facilitated by Jeff Renner, engaging public speaker and meteorologist, the talk will include Jay Julius Xw'tot lhem (President and founder of Se'Si'Le, previous Lummi Nation Chairman), Lynda Mapes (Pacific Northwest Journalist, reported with the Seattle Times for 27 years), and John Vechey (Cofounder of groundbreaking technology companies, and board member of Se'Si'Le). Jeff Renner holds degrees in Atmospheric Sciences and in Journalism and Political Science. He is a polished and engaging public speaker with a passion for the Pacific Northwest and a deep love of the natural world. In addition to his public speaking, Jeff is a meteorologist for the King 5 television station in Seattle. Jay Julius Xw'tot lhem (Lummi) is the President of Se'Si'Le. A fisherman, Former Chairman and Councilman at Lummi Nation, Jay was a leader in the fight to protect Xwe'chi'eXen (Cherry Point). He has organized and executed Tribal, local, regional, and national campaigns. A bridge-builder, he uses empathy and storytelling to bring people together. Principal at Julius Consulting LLC. Lynda Mapes is a journalist, nature writer, and author based in Seattle. A full-time daily newspaper reporter since 1985, Maps worked at the Seattle Times for 27 years before her recent retirement to focus on writing books and long-form journalism. John Vechey is a board member of Se'Si'Le and is based on the San Juan Islands. In Right and Respectful Relations, Vechey is highlighted under the chapter about technology. As the co-founder of groundbreaking technology companies, including Pluto VR and PopCap Games,Vechey has helped conceive of and produce popular video games like Bejeweled and Plants vs. Zombies. Se'Si'Le is an Indigenous led, Bellingham-based non-profit that works to protect Indigenous areas, resources, and sacred sites. Buy the Book In the Spirit of Right and Respectful Relations: Conversations about Indigenous Ways of Knowing and Being in Nature Mountaineers Books Presented by Town Hall Seattle and Braided River.
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Oct 2, 2025 • 1h 7min

395. Nilanjana Dasgupta with Paula Boggs: How Small Changes Can Make a Big Impact

How can one person fight for social justice? Can everyday people actually make changes in systemic, structural inequality? Social psychologist and author of the book Change the Wallpaper, Nilanjana Dasgupta offers science-driven answers to these questions, arguing that social shifts start with small changes to our "wallpaper," or the things that we experience in our daily lives. In other words, we need to revise the hyperlocal cultures we live in to make broader change. Dasgupta believes that these small shifts in our cultural "wallpaper" are far more effective in producing structural change than through popular movements such as bias awareness training, symbolic proclamations, or even just relying on people's good intentions. By integrating a wide range of studies in psychology, neuroscience, education, sociology, economics, public health, urban studies, cultural geography, and even landscape architecture, Dasgupta shows how attitudes and beliefs are based on what we see and hear every day. They nudge our behavior to create or reinforce small inequalities that go unnoticed and ultimately accumulate over time. So, how do we change our wallpaper? By consciously disrupting these patterns and habits, Dasgupta argues, we can create opportunities for social mixing across lines of differences, allowing new relationships to form, and promoting a better understanding of others' experiences. These actions lead to organizing and larger social shifts. It's through these small changes in our daily lives, Dasgupta explains, that we can all work toward justice. Nilanjana Dasgupta, author of Change the Wallpaper, is Provost Professor of Psychology and inaugural Director of the Institute of Diversity Sciences at the University of Massachusetts Amherst. She is the author of many articles, the winner of the Hidden Bias Research Prize from the Kapor Foundation, and the recipient of multiple U.S. government research grants. Her work has been featured in the New York Times and other major outlets. Paula Boggs is the founder of Boggs Media LLC. A TEDx speaker, U.S. Army veteran, and musician, she previously served for a decade as Executive Vice President, General Counsel, and Secretary at Starbucks Corporation. Her career spans roles as Vice President Legal at Dell, law firm partner, Assistant U.S. Attorney, and U.S. Army captain. Appointed by President Obama to the President's Committee on the Arts and Humanities, she actively serves on multiple nonprofit and corporate boards. Buy the Book Change the Wallpaper: Transforming Cultural Patterns to Build More Just Communities Third Place Books

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