The Dynamic Leader Podcast

In this interview Shelley speaks with Islam Hassan, Head of Growth at Westpac, about his views on being an adaptable leader. He shares that leadership is a constant learning journey and now, more than ever, we must invest in our continual growth and development to ensure future success. You’ll hear how he has adapted his skills and his approach throughout his career moving from hospitality to telecommunications and banking. He is a learning machine and says “I’ve learnt more from the people who’ve worked with me that what I’ve taught”. Islam shares that development is not linear and how sometimes taking a side step or a backstop can be more beneficial the just moving forward. He adds that often what gives you the most growth are the things you haven’t yet mastered and being uncomfortable is ok. Connect with Islam > LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/islam-hassan-70a21244/ Connect with Shelley > LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/shelleyflett/ Buy a copy of the book > https://www.booktopia.com.au/the-dynamic-leader-shelley-flett/book/9780648479505.html

Leadership is a learning journey and this interview with Matthew Hocking, experienced solicitor and senior leader, shares what he’s learnt from his mistakes along the way. His key to success has been to remain curious and take on different perspectives, “you never stop learning about the benefits of different approaches and learning from other people.” When you value different points of view you can create some great change in a business. Matt also talks about the need to unlearn certain things through your life and take on different views based on new information and expanded thinking. Connect with Matt > LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthew-hocking-53666b45/ Connect with Shelley > LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/shelleyflett/ Buy a copy of the book > https://www.booktopia.com.au/the-dynamic-leader-shelley-flett/book/9780648479505.html

In this episode Shelley talks to Mei Ouw, her all-time favourite guru and teacher in adaptive leadership and an absolute genius in her field. Mei shares some fabulous insights on perspective and how when we change our internal dialogue we can impact our external environment. She shares the four powers we have control over, being… Power over our thoughts Power over our feelings Power over the words we say Power over the actions we take Mei also talks about the rigidity that comes with judgement and the flexibility that comes with being curious and encourages all leaders to take the time to be more curious! It’s a fabulous conversation and one you can listen to over and over and still find little nuggets of gold. Connect with Mei > LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/mei-ouw-b14b6914/ Connect with Shelley > LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/shelleyflett/ Buy a copy of the book > https://www.booktopia.com.au/the-dynamic-leader-shelley-flett/book/9780648479505.html

In this episode you will hear Shelley read Chapter 9 of the book on Inspiring Respect. As a leader, you want your staff to respect not only you but also their colleagues, business partners, stakeholders, and the wider network that they operate within. This, for some teams, might also include respecting your customers. So what does it mean to respect someone else? In this chapter, Shelley covers why respect is a fundamental part of building a dynamic team, and outlines how to inspire your people to respect you and see that they have a role just as important as you to be true to themselves and those around them. Connect with Shelley > LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/shelleyflett/ Buy a copy of the book > https://www.booktopia.com.au/the-dynamic-leader-shelley-flett/book/9780648479505.html

In this episode Shelley talks to Viren Thakrar, Owner of ‘In The Game’, about the importance of trust. He draws the parallels of coaching a junior sports team and learning to work with the players you’ve been given and how this also applies to organisations.  He holds a belief that “majority of people want to do well” and so it’s important to approach them with a positive intention to develop and know that you, as their leader, is responsible for how they perform. Viren talks about vulnerability and the benefits that come with admitting you don’t know all the answers and utilise the network and support around you to get the best outcomes. He also talks about the trust equation of: Credibility + Reliability + Intimacy / (divided by) Self-interest = Trust. Viren isn’t just an expert in game-play but in all things leadership and team performance and that’s what you’ll hear come to life in this interview. Connect with Viren > LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/virenthakrar/  Connect with Shelley > LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/shelleyflett/ Buy a copy of the book > https://www.booktopia.com.au/the-dynamic-leader-shelley-flett/book/9780648479505.html

In this episode Shelley talks to Robyn Canning, Team Manager at TAC, again about vulenerability and the power of feedback. One of the questions she asks her team is “what is it that you need from me in order for you to win the gold medal at the Olympics?”. It means that the feedback isn’t about the leader as a person but as the support they need to achieve greatness. She talks about building feedback into all monthly conversations and seeking feedback as well as delivering it and giving people the space they need to share and reflect. Connect with Robyn > LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/robyn-canning-51509110b/ Connect with Shelley > LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/shelleyflett/ Buy a copy of the book > https://www.booktopia.com.au/the-dynamic-leader-shelley-flett/book/9780648479505.html

In this episode Shelley talks to Robyn Canning, Team Manager at TAC about leadership, building relationships and specifically on the importance of vulnerability. She talks about “being attuned to what your team is motivated by” and increasing awareness through the use of the Johari window. She talks about moving from stuff to self, doing life together and the theory that most problems resolve themselves in three days. So much goodness in this one!! Connect with Robyn > LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/robyn-canning-51509110b/ Connect with Shelley > LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/shelleyflett/ Buy a copy of the book > https://www.booktopia.com.au/the-dynamic-leader-shelley-flett/book/9780648479505.html

In this episode Shelley talks to Richard Farrelly about maintaining integrity as a leader and being aware that every contact leaves a trace. Richard also shares an absolutely fabulous insight around leading for the purpose of building capability, not dependency! In the latter part of the conversation they talk about saying ‘sorry’ and the benefits and impacts that come with different contexts. Connect with Richard > LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-farrelly-19b354b5/ Connect with Shelley > LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/shelleyflett/ Buy a copy of the book > https://www.booktopia.com.au/the-dynamic-leader-shelley-flett/book/9780648479505.html

In this episode Shelley talks to Operations Transformation Lead, Alison Nurthen, about her journey through leadership and the importance of finding your true style and of being authentic. She also shares the need to create a support network with your peers and not put too much pressure on yourself to solve things alone.  Al reflects on the benefits she’s experienced in letting go and allowing her team to create and operate at their best. Connect with Allison > LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/alison-nurthen-1ab57246/ Connect with Shelley > LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/shelleyflett/ Buy a copy of the book > https://www.booktopia.com.au/the-dynamic-leader-shelley-flett/book/9780648479505.html

In this episode you will hear Shelley read Chapter 8 of the book on Invest in Relationships. Nurturing any kind of relationship takes patience and perseverance. It’s not always smooth and doesn’t always feel good but if we can be friends with our staff, these conversations always seem to come from a better place.  As leaders we need friends who support us through our high highs and low lows. They are people who can call you on your bullshit when you start to wallow in self-pity and tell you when you’ve done the wrong thing.  This chapter we cover how leaders can really get the most of these friendships, investing in relationships through authenticity, integrity and vulnerability – to ultimately build trust. Connect with Shelley > LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/shelleyflett/ Buy a copy of the book > https://www.booktopia.com.au/the-dynamic-leader-shelley-flett/book/9780648479505.html