

Second Life
Second Life
Hosted by Who What Wear co-founder Hillary Kerr, Second Life spotlights successful women who have made major career changes. Guests share lessons they've learned through fearlessly daring to pivot, and how they've used skills from their "first lives" to navigate their winding career journeys.
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Jul 10, 2023 • 53min
Sheena Zadeh-Daly: Founder of Kosas Cosmetics
Sheena Zadeh-Daly’s buzzy clean makeup brand, Kosas Cosmetics, has gone viral time and again, and if you’re one of the millions of people who have purchased the brand’s best seller—the Revealer Concealer—or any of its other innovative products, you know why. Today, Kosas products are sold in retailers such as Sephora nationwide and are beloved for their comfortable, weightless feel. Not to mention, they’re clinically proven to make your skin better. But before Zadeh-Daly was creating one of the fastest-growing prestige makeup brands in the U.S., her career looked quite different. After studying biological sciences and working as a microbiologist in a lab—experiences that have certainly helped in the development of Kosas—Zadeh-Daly went on to work in the art world. It was actually there, in a portrait painting class, where she began to think about color not just as paint but also as potential lipstick shades for a makeup brand she’d been secretly dreaming up for years.

Jul 5, 2023 • 40min
Who What Wear with Hillary Kerr: Gabrielle Union on Sharing Knowledge and Gaining the World
Gabrielle Union has been a beloved actress since the '90s, but she's also a social justice activist, a co-founder, a best-selling author, and now an executive producer on projects such as her new BET docuseries My Journey to 50 and her recently released film The Perfect Find. In this episode, editor Jasmine Fox-Suliaman sits down with our July cover star to get the scoop on her recent productions. Gabrielle's also talking about redefining success for herself after years in the spotlight and the joy of building community within a tough industry.

Jul 3, 2023 • 55min
Vivian Tu: Founder and CEO of Your Rich BFF Media
Vivian Tu aka Your Rich BFF is on a mission to help people better understand personal finance. She educates her over 6 million social media followers on important topics like investing, navigating loans, and negotiating higher salaries. With her new podcast Networth and Chill along with her upcoming book, Rich AF: The Winning Money Mindset That Will Change Your Life, she’s giving people even more tools to make informed financial decisions. Given her immense knowledge in the field, it’s no surprise that Tu actually started her career as an equities trader at J.P. Morgan, where she spent over two years covering industrials, materials, and energy stocks. But when a new manager created a toxic work environment, she decided to leave Wall Street behind and took a job in digital media strategy sales at Buzzfeed. Hearing that she came from the financial industry, her Buzzfeed co-workers began to ask her questions about their Roth IRAs and health insurance. In an effort to consolidate all her advice, she took to TikTok, and Your Rich BFF was born. Tu is extremely candid about her own financial journey and the steps anyone can take to build wealth.

Jun 28, 2023 • 28min
Who What Wear with Hillary Kerr: Who What Wear Travels: The Aeolian Islands
This week, fashion editor Anna LaPlaca is bringing us inside Who What Wear's summer travel guide to the Aeolian Islands. She's tapped a variety of experts to find the best hotels, the can't-miss restaurants, and the beaches with the most jaw-dropping views. Plus, she dishes on all the must-pack trends for the summer.

Jun 26, 2023 • 58min
Courtney Storer: Chef and The Bear Culinary Producer
The Bear is often praised for how accurately it portrays restaurant culture, and for that, you have Courtney Storer to thank. Storer spent years working in the kitchens of famed spots like Verjus and Animal and eventually became the culinary director for the Los Angeles restaurants Jon & Vinny’s, where she spent six years growing the business into the iconic institution it is today. So when Storer’s brother Christopher decided to create a show set in a restaurant, he knew just who to call. As a culinary producer on the show, Storer stepped in to advise on everything from chopping technique to the terminology used to communicate in the kitchen. But before Storer was leading culinary teams in a variety of environments, she actually began her career working in HR at UPS and Whole Foods. To hear how Storer has pivoted her career time and again, tune in to this week’s episode.

Jun 21, 2023 • 30min
Who What Wear with Hillary Kerr: Liat Baruch Talks Styling Tips, Working With Sofia Richie, and the Investment Pieces That Are Actually Worth It
Liat Baruch is a celebrity stylist and personal shopper. Widely known for her work with the Richie family, Baruch was one of the genius minds behind the viral looks for Sofia Richie's recent France wedding that set the internet ablaze. She's here to talk about creating those next-level looks and give us her best advice on honing our personal style, the pieces worth investing in, and how to shop like a professional.

Jun 19, 2023 • 52min
Emira D'Spain: Content Creator and Model
Perhaps best known for her makeup-focused “get ready with me” TikTok videos, which have received over 85 million views from her 1.2 million followers, Emira D’Spain creates viral content about beauty trends and tips as well as her life in New York. She recently became the first Black, trans model to work with Victoria’s Secret and has appeared on covers for Galore and Tmrw magazines. But before she was modeling and making her own beauty content, Emira was actually working at Paper Magazine—first as an intern until she worked all the way up to becoming the publication’s beauty director. It was there D’Spain launched a Snapchat show called Snatchural, which helped her find her voice as a creator and ultimately take the leap to strike out on her own.

Jun 14, 2023 • 38min
Who What Wear with Hillary Kerr: Charlotte Palermino on Creating Dieux Skin and How to Layer Products Like a Pro
Charlotte Palermino is the CEO and co-founder of the skincare company Dieux Skin. If you’ve been on Instagram in the past few years, chances are you’ve seen Dieux Skin’s Forever Eye Masks or best-selling Deliverance serum grace your timeline. With an emphasis on sustainable packaging, result-driven formulas, and ingredients backed by clinical studies, Dieux Skin has gone absolutely viral. Today, Palermino talks about everything from just how to apply her maximalist product routine to the only things you actually need, plus the research behind cannabinoids in skincare.

Jun 12, 2023 • 53min
Pam Weekes and Connie McDonald: Levain Bakery Co-Founders
Levain Bakery founders Pam Weekes and Connie McDonald met at a Manhattan swimming pool while training for a triathlon. Not long after, they set out to create a bakery together. What started as an artisan bread shop quickly gained traction for its Chocolate Chip Walnut Cookies, referred to by The New York Times as “the largest, most divine chocolate chip cookies in Manhattan” in 1997. Today, Levain has 11 locations, with a 12th storefront coming to Los Angeles this summer. Prior to it all, though, Weekes spent her early career in fashion working for greats such as Norma Kamali and Adrienne Vittadini, and McDonald worked in the finance industry for eight years. To hear how the two pivoted their careers to create a highly successful cookie company, tune in to this week’s episode.

Jun 7, 2023 • 28min
Who What Wear with Hillary Kerr: Halle Bailey on Starring in The Little Mermaid
In this episode, we bring you behind the scenes of our June cover with Who What Wear’s vice president of social media, MacKenzie Green, and actress and singer Halle Bailey. You may know Bailey as one half of the Grammy-nominated R&B duo, Chloe x Halle, or from her role in the Freeform series, Grown-ish. Now, she’s making a splash as the newest Disney princess in the live-action movie, The Little Mermaid. She’s here to talk about everything that went into making the incredible film, including bringing us inside the re-creation of iconic moments from the original animation.


