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Law touches most aspects of life. Here to help make sense of it is the Stanford Legal podcast, where we look at the cases, questions, conflicts, and legal stories that
affect us all every day.
Pam Karlan studies and teaches a range of constitutional law-related courses with a special focus on what is known as the “law of democracy,”—the law that regulates voting, elections, and the political process. She served as a commissioner on the California Fair Political Practices Commission, an assistant counsel and cooperating attorney for the NAACP Legal Defense Fund, and (twice) as a Deputy Assistant Attorney General in the Civil Rights Division of the U.S. Department of Justice. She also co-directs the Stanford Supreme Court Litigation Clinic, which represents real clients before the highest court in the country, working on important cases including representing Edith Windsor in the landmark case striking down the federal Defense of Marriage Act and Donald Zarda in a case where the Supreme Court held that Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 protects LGBT individuals against discrimination in employment. She has argued before the Court ten times.
And Rich Ford’s teaching and writing look at the relationship between law and equality, cities and urban development, popular culture and everyday life. He teaches local government law, employment discrimination, and the often-misunderstood critical race theory. He studied with and advised governments around the world on questions of equality law, lectured at places like the Sorbonne in Paris on the relationship of law and popular culture, served as a commissioner for the San Francisco Housing Commission, and worked with cities on how to manage neighborhood change and volatile real estate markets. He writes about law and popular culture for lawyers, academics, and popular audiences. His latest book is Dress Codes: How the Laws of Fashion Made History, a legal history of the rules and laws that influence what we wear.
Law matters. We hope you’ll listen to new episodes that will drop on Thursdays every two weeks.
To learn more, go to https://law.stanford.edu/stanford-legal-podcast/.
affect us all every day.
Pam Karlan studies and teaches a range of constitutional law-related courses with a special focus on what is known as the “law of democracy,”—the law that regulates voting, elections, and the political process. She served as a commissioner on the California Fair Political Practices Commission, an assistant counsel and cooperating attorney for the NAACP Legal Defense Fund, and (twice) as a Deputy Assistant Attorney General in the Civil Rights Division of the U.S. Department of Justice. She also co-directs the Stanford Supreme Court Litigation Clinic, which represents real clients before the highest court in the country, working on important cases including representing Edith Windsor in the landmark case striking down the federal Defense of Marriage Act and Donald Zarda in a case where the Supreme Court held that Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 protects LGBT individuals against discrimination in employment. She has argued before the Court ten times.
And Rich Ford’s teaching and writing look at the relationship between law and equality, cities and urban development, popular culture and everyday life. He teaches local government law, employment discrimination, and the often-misunderstood critical race theory. He studied with and advised governments around the world on questions of equality law, lectured at places like the Sorbonne in Paris on the relationship of law and popular culture, served as a commissioner for the San Francisco Housing Commission, and worked with cities on how to manage neighborhood change and volatile real estate markets. He writes about law and popular culture for lawyers, academics, and popular audiences. His latest book is Dress Codes: How the Laws of Fashion Made History, a legal history of the rules and laws that influence what we wear.
Law matters. We hope you’ll listen to new episodes that will drop on Thursdays every two weeks.
To learn more, go to https://law.stanford.edu/stanford-legal-podcast/.
Episodes
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Jun 15, 2020 • 28min
Race and Policing with guest Professor David Sklansky
Stanford Law Professor David Sklansky, the Faculty Co-Director of the Stanford Criminal Justice Center, is a former federal prosecutor who served as special counsel to the independent review panel appointed to investigate the Los Angeles Police Department’s Rampart Division scandal that formed in the wake of the Rodney King case.
In this episode, Sklansky discusses race and policing in America and how we can reform policing to prevent another George Floyd death in police custody. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com
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Jun 1, 2020 • 28min
Local Government during the COVID-19 Crisis: A Conversation with San Francisco Supervisor Matt Haney
As one of the first municipalities in the nation to declare a shelter in place order, San Francisco has been on the frontline as a public policy leader during the COVID-19 crisis. Join us for a discussion with Board Supervisor Matt Haney about the challenges facing the City by the Bay, from the decision to shut down, to controlling the disease for all citizens including the growing homeless population, to how to open up schools and businesses safely.
Originally aired on SiriusXM on May 30, 2020. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com
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May 18, 2020 • 28min
Can Bankruptcy Help Companies Weather the COVID Crisis?
On May 4, J.Crew became the first major American retailer to file for bankruptcy, with Neiman Marcus and Gold’s Gym quickly following. With unemployment at record levels and a wave of bankruptcies expected, the COVID-19 health crisis is quickly turning into an economic crisis—despite the CARES Act passed by Congress in April. In this episode of Stanford Legal, bankruptcy law expert and Stanford Law Professor George Triantis explains how current U.S. bankruptcy laws can help us through this crisis and offers his recommendations on what more the government can do. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com
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May 18, 2020 • 28min
A Path Back to Normal? Previewing the New Google-Apple COVID-19 Contact TracingTools
Early in May, tech competitors Google and Apple shared sample code for their new contact tracing technology. Hopes are high that apps developed with partnership's technology will help to slow the spread of COVID-19 by using Bluetooth technology in cell phones to contact trace infection. Consulting Director of Privacy at the Stanford Center for Internet and Society joins Pam and Joe to discuss the new tools and privacy concerns surrounding tech in contact tracing Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com
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Apr 27, 2020 • 28min
Regulating in a Pandemic: COVID-19 Legal Issues with guest Michelle Mello
As the number of COVID-19 cases across the U.S. continues to rise, with shelter in place orders in place throughout most of the country, America’s preparedness for a pandemic has been thrown into question. What went wrong with testing and protective gear, and why are we still behind? Can tech help the country safely open up again? And who is in charge—the president or the governors? Health law expert Michelle Mello joins the show today to discuss these developing issues. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com
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Apr 27, 2020 • 28min
Covid-19 Mental Health and Supreme Court Issues
Stanford Legal co-hosts Pam Karlan and Joe Bankman discuss the ramifications of the the COVID-19 pandemic, both on mental health issues and procedural issues faced by the Supreme Court during this time.
Originally aired on SiriusXM on April 25, 2020. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com
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Apr 27, 2020 • 28min
Democracy During a Pandemic: Securing the 2020 Presidential Election with guest Nate Persily
With a vaccine and effective treatment still months away, it is increasingly likely that the COVID-19 pandemic will fundamentally change the 2020 presidential election. After the Wisconsin primary in April reportedly to low turnout and, as recently was reported, the spread of the virus, can in-person voting happen safely? Is mail-in balloting the answer? Here to help us understand how a secure November election can be planned is election law expert Nate Persily. Originally aired on SiriusXM on April 25, 2020. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com
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Mar 30, 2020 • 28min
Racial Justice: Key NAACP Legal Defense Fund Cases with guest Sherrilyn Ifill
From the groundbreaking Brown v. Board of Education case to voting rights and education, the NAACP Legal Defense Fund (LDF) has been the nation’s premier civil rights law organization fighting for racial justice and equality since its founding in 1940 by legendary civil rights lawyer (and later Supreme Court justice) Thurgood Marshall. Sherrilyn Ifill, LDF’s President and Director-Counsel of the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund, Inc. (LDF), will discuss important NAACP cases and issues.
Originally aired on SiriusXM on March 28, 2020. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com
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Mar 16, 2020 • 29min
Key Civil Liberties Issues with guest David Cole
The ACLU has been the nation’s premier defender of civil liberties since its founding 100 years ago. David Cole, the ACLU’s national legal director who oversees its entire legal docket, will discuss key civil liberties issues facing the country today including two LGBTQ rights cases that he recently argued before the Supreme Court in a live taping of the Stanford Legal podcast. For more Stanford Radio and past episodes, visit: https://stanford.io/2SqmNob Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com
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Mar 2, 2020 • 28min
Virtual Briefing at the Supreme Court with guest Jeffrey Fisher
The open secret of Supreme Court advocacy in a digital era is that there is a new way to argue to the Justices. In this episode of Stanford Legal, Pam Karlan and Joe Bankman sit down with co-director of the Stanford Supreme Court Litigation Clinic, Jeff Fisher, to discuss his recent article, Virtual Briefing.
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