

The Old Man and the Three
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The Old Man and the Three is back with a new host, NBA sharpshooter and Denver Nuggets forward, Cam Johnson. Every week, Cam joins Tommy Alter for insightful analysis of NBA games, trends, strategy and major moments in hoops culture along with exclusive interviews and highlights — all from a current player’s perspective. The legacy continues!Don’t worry, The Young Man and the Three isn't going anywhere. Catch new episodes right here, where Tommy will continue to bring together your favorite rising stars from the NBA and culture to celebrate their love of hoops. Two shows. One feed. Every single week. Subscribe everywhere.
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Sep 28, 2020 • 1h 32min
Grayson Allen
From his National Championship win to his highly publicized tripping incidents at Duke, current Memphis Grizzlies shooting guard Grayson Allen has definitely seen his share of highs and lows. In this eye-opening interview with JJ and Tommy, he covers it all with brutal honestly and paints a picture of how it all went down. Plus, there’s a Top 5/Draft that’ll surely bring out the villain in all of us.
RUNDOWN
Welcome
Gaming in the bubble/2k rankings
Building confidence going into his second year
How has his experience been adjusting to the NBA
What were his expectations coming into the NBA
His ‘Welcome to the NBA’ moment
Discussing the uniqueness of KD
On the preparation for games: NBA vs College
What stands out about Ja Morant
How the scheduled seed-in games for Memphis were so tough
Diving into the Duke experience
Does he regret not leaving after his sophomore year
The difficulty of dealing with the high player turnover at Duke
The process of managing his teammates and being a leader
On feeling the “fishbowl” pressure at Duke
Who was hated more at Duke: Grayson or JJ?
How social media plays into that hatred
Playing the Duke villain
Grayson delves into his tripping incidents and the impact on his career
SPEED ROUND
TOP 5/DRAFT
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Sep 24, 2020 • 1h 11min
De'Aaron Fox
Well, due to some technical difficulties, it took a while to get this one going. But once it started, it certainly didn't disappoint. Sacramento Kings PG De'Aaron Fox visited the 'Old Man and the Three' and delivered on every level in this wide ranging interview where they discussed the present NBA culture, the 'One and Done' system, learning from the veterans, and much more. Plus, it's another classic Top 5/Draft. Does JJ take a dive to help stop Tommy's run? Listen in to hear.
THE RUNDOWN
Life since the bubble (De'Aaron got engaged)
Least favorite/favorite parts of the bubble
AAU teammates who play in the NBA
His HS Class of 2016
How De'Aaron ended up at Kentucky
The Kentucky "one and done" system
On John Calipari
What's it like playing for Calipari
Did he ever imagine this level of success when he was in HS
The difference of being a top prospect today compared to years past
In this basketball culture, how did De'Aaron stay so grounded
Does he feel like he has made it
Does he tailor his game to anyone in the NBA
De'Aaron's welcome to the NBA moment
JJ's welcome's to the NBA moment
Who surprised him when he got to the NBA
The first year learning curve
Learning from the vets
Analyzing De'Aaron's shot
Being smart with your body
De'Aaron's playoff takeaways
Did he think Bam was going to be this good
Discussing the day the NBA postponed the season
Is there a rivalry with him and Lonzo Ball?
SPEED ROUND
Top 5/Draft
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Sep 21, 2020 • 1h 21min
Michael Lewis (featuring Duncan Robinson)
It's a power packed episode of "The Old Man and the Three" as JJ and Tommy welcome in award winning author and financial journalist Michael Lewis (Money Ball, The Blind Side, The Big Short). The discussion ranges from the pandemic and the challenges our society faces, to NBA analytics and the two kinds of nerds. But before (and after) that interview, Miami Heat sharp shooter and Old Man 3 NBA Correspondent Duncan Robinson joins the show to break down his team's series with the Celtics, the art of drawing a foul, whether or not he's caught the tattoo bug, and much more. Plus, he comes back after the interview for an ice cold Top 5/Draft that will leave you running to the freezer.
RUNDOWN
Duncan Robinson
Discussing the Miami/Boston series
On Duncan's shot selection
How Boston is guarding him
Duncan talks about his release
JJ and Duncan breakdown the Marcus Smart experience
Who's the biggest flopper in the league
The art of drawing fouls
Do JJ's tattoos gain him respect?
Duncan might be making the tattoo leap
Earning playoff respect
Mailbag question
Top 5 Draft
Michael Lewis
On Quarantine
Macro Takeaways from the pandemic
ML story of “how is he going to kill me” on pain killers from hip surgery
He/and prominent billionaire’s idea of a Trump death clock in Times Square
“Trump is an accident of Democracy”
“we have an idiot’s ability” as Americans to change
Trump’s pandemic response / Woodward quotes
Tribalism / Is there a fix
The Fifth Risk book / Distrust of Expertise
Theme is that a lot of examples in government of folks we don’t value being important
Activism of Younger Generation / Finding Hope
“Science progresses one funeral at a time”
Moneyball
JJ story on SVG / adoption analytics
On the two types of nerds
Daryl Morley/ Analytics
Battier was “a guy whose value was not perceived”
JJ on first year in Philly v. final year
Duncan Robinson Part II
Top 5/Draft
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Sep 17, 2020 • 1h 18min
Steve Nash
On this episode of the "Old Man and the Three", JJ and Tommy welcome in Hall of Famer, 2-time MVP, and new coach of the Brooklyn Nets, Steve Nash. In a wide ranging interview, they cover all things NBA, including Steve's new gig, the playoffs, the evolution of the NBA coach, KD and Kyrie, and so much more. Plus, a Top 5/Draft that'll leave you saying "wow... that escalated quickly".
RUNDOWN
How Steve came to accept the Nets job
JJ recalls 1st question he asked Steve in 2016
The role of a coach
The challenge of player accountability
Did Steve's time in the bay help him deal w/ unique personalities
The evolution of the game for a coach
When did he first get to know Kyrie
Planning the KD/Kyrie 2-man game
The media backlash to Steve getting the Nets job
There's white privilege and there's player privilege
Does it bother Steve that he didn't win a championship as a player
What career moments gnaw at Steve
Being up 3-1 and staving off momentum
Playoff point differential
On the Heat's playoff run and culture
Bam's epic block
Holding on to the game
On Steve's personal journey after his retirement and his last days in LA
What would he average in today's NBA
TOP 5/DRAFT
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Sep 14, 2020 • 1h 10min
Bubba Wallace (featuring bonus guest Chris Long)
On this episode of "The Old Man and the Three", it's a double dose of stars as JJ and Tommy sit down with NASCAR's Bubba Wallace to discuss his life on and off the track, his career ascension, and the unique circumstances he's had to deal with. But before that, as an added bonus, former NFL standout Chris Long joins the show to talk about the NFL, NBA, his charity, his podcast (Green Light), and much more. Plus, he sticks around for the Top 5/Draft where he puts his personal spin on things.
RUNDOWN
Chris Long
1:40 - Chris talks about podcasting
4:00 - NBA news (Conference finals, D'Antoni out in Houston)
8:30 - NFL discussion
13:15 - is there rhythm for NFL players?
15:00 - Chris' charity work
16:40 - Top 5/Draft
Bubba Wallace
29:05 - Wallace intro
29:40 - What goes on the cars and why?
30:34 - How does one become a race car driver
32:20 - bringing NASCAR to younger diverse fans
34:54 - how does a young driver transition into bigger cars
36:57 - was Bubba a cocky kid?
38:42 - JJ tells his "you can google me" story
39:40 - Racial issues in NASCAR and in society
48:00 - the pressure on athletes to get it right when speaking out
50:35 - being attacked by Trump
56:00 - Black athletes have to be twice as good to get the same respect
100:08 - how hard is it to win in NASCAR
103:39 - how do friendships work in NASCAR
105:45 - are there any good racing movies?
107:40 - Is that a cardboard cutout of yourself in the background?
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Sep 10, 2020 • 1h 33min
Kevin Durant and Rich Kleiman
In this Cadence13 Special Event, the stars align - literally - as JJ and Tommy sit down with Kevin Durant and Rich Kleiman from the Boardroom Out of Office podcast. Nothing is off the table as the crew tackles topics on and off the court. Plus, they cap it off with a Top 5/Draft that every long suffering sports fan can relate to. It's all here on the Old Man and the Three.
RUNDOWN
2:33 - The great defender debate / defense in the NBA
20:20 - Kevin's run-in with the OKC media
23:30 - Media criticism.
28:10 - Kevin's backlash from the media and fans
34:30 - KD's decision to go to the Warriors
38:40 - JJ's past playoff experiences
46:40 - JJ talks about not winning a championship
49:40 - JJ and KD reminisce about Texas vs Duke and JJ's 41 point explosion
54:05 - The big "KD to the Knicks" rumor and his move to the Nets
1:03:00 - KD's situation with Draymond
1:06:20 - Do the Nets need a third star?
1:10:50 - KD's reaction to Steve Nash coaching the Nets
1:12:20 - on always learning and getting better
1:17:20 - What's Ja Morant's ceiling
1:20:10 - JJ and KD argue about whether he carries when he dribbles
1:21:41 - Kevin clapping back at people on twitter
1:24:28 - Top5/Draft
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Sep 7, 2020 • 1h 41min
Chris Bosh
Few players have been thrown into the fire like Chris Bosh was when he joined the Miami Heat and formed a Big 3 with Lebron James and Dwyane Wade. On this episode of The Old Man and the Three, JJ and Tommy deep dive on the Heatles era, life after basketball, the NBA playoffs, the challenges of repeating as champs, and much more. Plus, this episode’s draft strikes a musical chord and you won’t want to miss it.
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Sep 3, 2020 • 54min
D'Angelo Russell
Joining JJ and Tommy on this episode of the OM3 is Minnesota Timberwolves point guard D'Angelo Russell. They dive deep into several subjects, including what it's like changing teams, his Laker experience in LA with Kobe, free agency, his newly found golf obsession, and much more. And of course, it's a can't miss OM3 Top 5/Draft as the group picks their all time favorite NBA jerseys.
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Aug 31, 2020 • 1h 3min
Mark Cuban
There is only one Mark Cuban, and it's easy to see why in this fantastic interview with the brilliant Dallas Maverick's owner. Covering subjects ranging from the NBA Boycott and the future of rising star Luka Doncic, to winning a championship and what makes a leader, he presents it all in his brutally honest and unique way. Plus, controversy arises in the OM3 Top 5/Draft after a last minute change to the topic puts JJ in a hole. Was it a simple oversight, or a calculated move by Tommy? Enquiring minds want to know. Listen in to see how it all shakes out.
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Aug 27, 2020 • 23min
NBA Boycott w/ Landry Shamet
On this OM3 emergency pod, JJ and Tommy sit down with LA Clippers PG Landry Shamet to discuss the decision to boycott last night's NBA playoff games and what lies ahead for the game as well as our country.
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