New Models
New Models
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Art, tech, media theory, culture ... networked tech's impact on life
Hosts: Caroline Busta & Lil Internet
https://newmodels.io
Follow: @newmodels_io
Est. 2018 Berlin
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For full episodes, subscribe: https://patreon.com/newmodels | https://newmodels.substack.com
Art, tech, media theory, culture ... networked tech's impact on life
Hosts: Caroline Busta & Lil Internet
https://newmodels.io
Follow: @newmodels_io
Est. 2018 Berlin
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Dec 14, 2024 • 20min
Preview | Artists Holly Herndon & Mat Dryhurst on a new paradigm of artmaking (NM86)
This is a preview | Full episode released to subscribers: 14 Dec 2024 | Subscribe --> newmodels.io
// In part due to the rise of AI-enabled systems, we are witnessing a shift in where and how the creative act takes place. It is a phenomenon that artists Holly Herndon and Mat Dryhurst have been grappling with for more than a decade through their music and their work with machine learning and its governance. With their exhibition “The Call” on view at the Serpentine in London through February 2nd and their book All Media is Training Data out this week, Holly and Mat join NM to talk about a new paradigm of artmaking and artist subject. We also discuss a new kind of collector and the tech-literate gallerists that are bridging legacy cultural systems with this particular future.
For more:
herndondryhurst.studio
@hollyherndon & @matdryhurst
Source.Plus public diffusion model
Spawning.ai data governance for generative AI
"The Call" Serpentine North Gallery, London
All Media is Training Data (Serpentine, König, 2024)

Dec 8, 2024 • 42min
Preview | NM Greenroom: filmmakers/actors Betsey Brown & Peter Vack (2024)
This is a preview | Full episode released to subscribers: 30 Nov 2024 | Subscribe --> newmodels.io
NYC filmmaker-actor-sibling-duo Betsey Brown and Peter Vack join NM to reflect on the making and reception of their own and each other’s films, Actors (Brown, 2021) and www.RachelOrmont.com (Vack, 2024). Deliberately tuned to the affective frequency of the internet (desire, desperation, outrage), both works proceeded to inflame online channels to the point of being overshadowed by controversy—at least initially. With a little distance, we approach the films on their own terms: contemporary explorations of the psychoanalytic depths of self, society, and platform in a cyber-networked present.
Watch: www.actors.movie & www.RachelOrmont.com
Read: Peter Vack, Sillyboy https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0D46C346T/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0
IG: @me_betseybrown/ & @themasterofcum
Episode image: adapted from Jon Rafman’s 2024 series of Peter and Betsey for Sex magazine #14

Nov 16, 2024 • 20min
Preview | NM Talkcore: writer Gideon Jacobs on Trump as image
This is a preview | Full episode released to subscribers: 11 Nov 2024 | Subscribe --> newmodels.io
// Writer Gideon Jacobs joins NM the day after the US election to discuss his essay “Trump l’Oeil,” which ran in the LA Review of Books, November 3. Opening with the images of Trump working at McDonalds, the piece explores what happens when images start conveying a realness that is untethered from reality; images that are generated (rather than taken) and, like Trump, succeed by claiming truths rather than dutifully indexing their referents. This is not a conversation about US policy or politics. Instead, it considers how our current media era is reshaping how the public thinks about both.
For more:
https://gideon.works & IG: @gideon___jacobs
https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/trump-loeil/

Oct 18, 2024 • 30min
Preview | Remilia Quarterly editor, L. B. Dobis (NM84)
Full Ep released to subscribers: 17 Sep 2024 | newmodels.io
// Remilia Corporation, founded in 2021 by Charlotte Fang, describes itself as an institution, a lifestyle brand, and an artist’s colony, among other things. As the group behind the influential and infamous Milady NFT project, Remilia also exemplifies a particularly contemporary artistic practice—one in which an online swarm algorithm-hacks certain language, images, and aesthetics into relevance, thereby generating their own market. Earlier this year, Remilia released issue one of Remilia Quarterly, a “literary magazine and critical journal for the New Net Art.” Joining us on this episode is the journal’s editor, L.B. Dobis.
"Remilia is a manifesto. Remilia is an institution. Remilia is a self-organization. Remilia is a lifestyle brand. Remilia is a master-planned community. Remilia is an investment fund. Remilia is an artist's colony. Remilia is a crowdfunded video game. Remilia is an autonomous smart contract. Remilia is an independent record label. Remilia is a community center for the digital village. Remilia will save the internet. […]"
For more:
https://quarterly.remilia.org
https://remilia.org

Oct 1, 2024 • 14min
Preview | NM Dispatch: The Jacket - Lil Internet (Sept 2024)
Full Ep released to subscribers: 1 Oct 2024 | newmodels.io
// This NM Dispatch monologue by @lilinternet is not about a physical place but a region of the internet—the increasingly adversarial realm of online shopping.
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Somewhat relatedly, we put together this product shortlist of baby items that we hope those new to (or curious about) early parenthood might find useful. https://www.newmodels.io/editorial/general/product-shortlist-the-baby-edit

Sep 11, 2024 • 19min
Preview | NM Talkcore: author Alex Kazemi
Full Ep released to subscribers: 9 Sep 2024 | To join New Models, find us via newmodels.io
// With this first episode of NM Talkcore we speak with Alex Kazemi, author of New Millennium Boyz (2023). In doing so, we bring back the format of NM TopSoil, a freeform conversation about things that are mutually top-of-mind. For this ep, that includes, among other items: personal branding and the book publishing industry, Paramount wiping the MTV News archives, y2k masculinity, history in a time of infinity information, and history in a time of AI.
For more:
https://alexkazemi.com
https://permutedpress.com/book/new-millennium-boyz

Aug 1, 2024 • 9min
Preview | Paz de la Huerta & Bjarne Melgaard in conversation (NM83)
Full Ep released to subscribers: 1 Aug 2024 | To join New Models, find us via patreon.com/newmodels & newmodels.substack.com
// A few weeks ago, artist and friend of New Models, Bjarne Melgaard reached out with an episode proposal. He'd become close with actor and artist Paz de la Huerta, whose debut solo show had just closed at Rutkowski;68 Gallery in Paris. Bjarne had been painting Paz for a new series of work and she was interested in speaking to us together with him about that collaboration, her own art, and their shared healing. With this episode, we give you an edit of the resulting conversation — one that is as much about friendship, trauma, and healing as it is about media, image-making, and power.
For more:
Ruttkowski;68 (Paris)
Gallery VI, VII (Oslo)
https://bjarnemelgaard.no & @bjarnemelgaard (IG)

Jul 20, 2024 • 21min
Preview | Journalist James Pogue on American Futures (NM82)
Full Ep released to subscribers: 21 July 2024 | To join New Models, find us via patreon.com/newmodels & newmodels.substack.com
// From AI to global power alignments to domestic political sentiments in the US and EU, 2024 is shaping up to be a frontier zone year of an era to come. Joining us on this episode is journalist James Pogue who is no stranger to the edges of the political present and uncommonly adept at anticipating where they lead. When Pogue last came on the show in 2022, his piece on America’s New Right for Vanity Fair had just gone viral. More recently, he’s been penning a three-part series for Granta magazine on the turbulent power games in the resource rich Sahel region, where he spent the better part of last year. We discuss both on this episode, unmooring ideations of what ‘Right’ and ‘Left’ now mean.
For more:
@jameshensonpogue (X)
https://granta.com/gold-fever-in-the-coup-belt/
https://granta.com/wagner-in-africa/
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/04/inside-the-new-right-where-peter-thiel-is-placing-his-biggest-bets

Jun 3, 2024 • 23min
Preview | Psyberspace w/ Trevor Paglen (NM68)
Full ep released to subscribers: 10 Aug 2023 | To join New Models, find us via patreon.com/newmodels & newmodels.substack.com
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Artist Trevor Paglen speaks with New Models about systems of “influence” past and present – pointing to a transition from a world of surveillance capitalism that is potentially becoming one of PSYOPS capitalism. This conversation follows Paglen’s parallel 2023 exhibitions “Hide the Real, Show the False” at n.b.k. Berlin and “You’ve Just Been F*cked by PSYPOS” at Pace Gallery in New York.
For more:
Tw/X: @trevorpaglen
https://paglen.studio/
Jak Ritger, https://www.punctr.art/unlimited-hangout-the-ufo-story

May 10, 2024 • 34min
Unlocked | NM x Heavy Traffic: Olivia Kan-Sperling, “The Perfect Glove”
Olivia Kan-Sperling reads her non-linear fashion noir, “The Perfect Glove” from Heavy Traffic II
"Although a whole day has passed since opening, the plushy carpet shows no footprints. This must be the oft-reported death of retail, which reminds Leo of the death of movies, which reminds him of his own death. Then again—he cheers up—dead or no, neither—stores nor movies—ever seem to go away. [...]"
Olivia Kan-Sperling’s “The Perfect Glove” is a holographic short essay set between LA and NYC, the 20th c. and today. It was first published in Heavy Traffic II. Based in NYC, Olivia is the author of the Kendall Jenner x Lil Peep fanfic, Island Time (Expat Press, 2022) as well as an assistant editor + regular contributor to The Paris Review. Her writing has also appeared in Interview, Praxis, Kaleidoscope, n+1, and Cabinet, among other publications and venues.
Note: For maximum impact, we recommend listening to this episode in stereo. Editing and mixing by Lil Internet.
This reading is part of Heavy Traffic’s New Models residency, which features pieces from the magazine read aloud by their authors. Heavy Traffic IV of is out now.
https://heavytrafficmagazine.com
See also:
NM60 | Olivia Kan-Sperling on the programming logic of style
https://soundcloud.com/newmodels/code-couture-olivia-kan-sperling-nm60
NM75 | Heavy Traffic magazine w/ editor/publisher Patrick McGraw
https://soundcloud.com/newmodels/mcgraw-heavytraffic-nm75/s-VB0sQZYweL0


