Behind the Markets Podcast
Behind the Markets
Jeremy Schwartz, Global Chief Investment Officer at WisdomTree and Jeremy Siegel, professor of finance at Wharton and author of Stocks for the Long Run, host this long-running podcast that dives into the how and why of market performance with leading economists and market strategists to inform you what’s ahead for the economy and your portfolio.
Regularly joining the two Jeremys is the Deep Rooted Macro Team that decodes the forces shaping markets and portfolios worldwide.
Chris Gannatti, CFA, Global Head of Research, offers an analytical and thematic edge—bridging macro trends with on-the-ground technology and innovation. Whether unpacking the infrastructure powering the AI age or latest biotech breakthroughs, Chris translates complexity into conviction.
Jeff Weniger, CFA, Head of Equity Strategy, injects the pulse of behavioral markets and valuation discipline. With sharp macro instincts, Jeff dissects cycles, sentiment, and structural change with trademark clarity and wit.
Sam Rines, Macro Strategist for Model Portfolios, ties the threads together—linking policy, politics, and portfolio construction. His pragmatic macro lens captures how geopolitics, industrial policy, and energy dynamics flow into real-world GeoAlpha.
Together, the Deep Rooted Macro squad creates a fusion of rigorous research, accessible insights, and genuine debate.
Behind the Markets provides a regular masterclass in how the world really works beneath the surface of prices, data, and headlines. Tune in to hear where the Deep Rooted Macro team sees the next big shifts taking root.
Regularly joining the two Jeremys is the Deep Rooted Macro Team that decodes the forces shaping markets and portfolios worldwide.
Chris Gannatti, CFA, Global Head of Research, offers an analytical and thematic edge—bridging macro trends with on-the-ground technology and innovation. Whether unpacking the infrastructure powering the AI age or latest biotech breakthroughs, Chris translates complexity into conviction.
Jeff Weniger, CFA, Head of Equity Strategy, injects the pulse of behavioral markets and valuation discipline. With sharp macro instincts, Jeff dissects cycles, sentiment, and structural change with trademark clarity and wit.
Sam Rines, Macro Strategist for Model Portfolios, ties the threads together—linking policy, politics, and portfolio construction. His pragmatic macro lens captures how geopolitics, industrial policy, and energy dynamics flow into real-world GeoAlpha.
Together, the Deep Rooted Macro squad creates a fusion of rigorous research, accessible insights, and genuine debate.
Behind the Markets provides a regular masterclass in how the world really works beneath the surface of prices, data, and headlines. Tune in to hear where the Deep Rooted Macro team sees the next big shifts taking root.
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Aug 9, 2019 • 27min
Behind The Markets Podcast: Wu Alfred Muluan
Show from 8/9/19
In this episode of Behind the Markets host Liqian Ren talks to Professor Wu Alfred Muluan. They discuss everything from the Hong Kong protest to the economic decline in Hong Kong.
Guest:
Wu Alfred Muluan is a Assistant Dean and Associate Professor in Lee Kuan Yew School of Public Policy at National University of Singapore. He earned his PhD from City University of Hong Kong, where he was the recipient of the German Academic Exchange Service (DAAD) scholarship and the Outstanding Academic Performance Awards for Research Degree Students. He previously served as an associate professor in the Department of Asian and Policy Studies at The Education University of Hong Kong, a senior research associate in the Department of Public and Social Administration at City University of Hong Kong, and from 2000-2007 a senior journalist in Mainland China, where he received over a dozen awards and honours for outstanding journalism both from Chinese and overseas organizations.
Follow him on Twitter: @alfredmwu
Check out his blog here: https://alfredmwu.wordpress.com/

Aug 2, 2019 • 23min
Behind the Markets Podcast: Professor Hanming Fang
Show from 8/2/19
In this episode of Behind the Markets hosts Jeremy Schwartz and Liqian Ren bring in an expert on China's economy. They discuss everything from US foreign trade, to the housing market in China and health care reform.
Guest:
Hanming Fang is Class of 1965 Term Professor of Economics and Professor of Health Care Management at the University of Pennsylvania. He is also the International Dean of the School of Entrepreneurship and Management at ShanghaiTech University in China. Professor Fang is one of the founders of a company called VoxChina, which is described on its website as a “bridge on economic issues between China and the World”.
Follow his work with Vox China on Twitter: @VoxChina2017
Check out his economic research here: https://economics.sas.upenn.edu/people/hanming-fang

Aug 1, 2019 • 33min
Behind the Markets Podcast: Brian Wesbury
Show from 8/2/19
In this episode of Behind the Markets hosts Jeremy Schwartz and Liqian Ren kick off the show getting a market update and talking fed policy with Professor Jeremy Siegel. Then they bring on an economist at First Trust Advisors to talk about trade, China, and the fed. Will job growth increase? What is the outlook for US equity markets? And what will be the effects of President Trump's trade decisions? Our guest will discuss all that and more.
Guest:
Brian Wesbury is Chief Economist at First Trust Advisors L.P., a financial services firm based in Wheaton, Illinois. Mr. Wesbury was a member of the Academic Advisory Council of the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago from 1999-2007 and has been a regular attendee of the Economist Roundtable Luncheon at the Chicago Fed since 2007. In 2012, he was named a Fellow of the George W. Bush Presidential Center in Dallas, TX where he worked closely with its 4%-Growth Project. His writing appears in various magazines, newspapers and blogs, and he appears regularly on Fox, Bloomberg, CNBC and BNN Canada TV. In 1995 and 1996, he served as Chief Economist for the Joint Economic Committee of the U.S. Congress. The Wall Street Journal ranked Mr. Wesbury the nation’s #1 U.S. economic forecaster in 2001, and USA Today ranked him as one of the nation’s top 10 forecasters in 2004.
Follow him on Twitter: @wesbury
For more on First Trust Advisors visit their website: https://www.ftportfolios.com/
Jul 24, 2019 • 53min
Behind the Markets Podcast: David Rosenberg
Show from 7/26/19
Jeff Weniger, Director of Asset Allocation at WisdomTree, steps in to host this special edition of Behind the Markets with Jeremy Schwartz and Jeremy Siegel! They talk to David Rosenberg about the European Central Bank, interest rates and the fed. They also review the flood of corporate earnings out this week and what they say about the U.S. economy. Plus a look at global markets from Japan to Switzerland.
Guest:
David Rosenberg, Chief Economist and Strategist at Gluskin Sheff, a Canadian-based wealth management firm. Dave was Chief North American Economist at Merrill Lynch in New York for seven years, during which he was consistently ranked in the Institutional Investor All-Star analyst rankings. He also writes a very popular daily newsletter called Breakfast with Dave.
Breakfast with Dave: For a three month trial email drosenberg@gluskinsheff.com
Check out his site: https://www.gluskinsheff.com/Thinking/Research
Follow him on Twitter: @EconguyRosie
Jul 19, 2019 • 31min
Behind The Markets Podcast: Dr. Zhou Yang
Show from 7/19/19
Host Liqian Ren flies solo in this episode of Behind the Markets all about health care and economic growth. She talks with a health policy adviser to the World Bank Group about how China is developing it's health care system, even implementing some of the systems used in the US. They get into topics such as NHSA, China's national health insurance, and applying Medicare and Medicaid. Tune in to figure out the future of these markets.
Guest:
Dr. Zhou Yang - Health policy advisor to the World Bank Group, and the founder and CEO of Yang and Partners LLC.
Follow her on Twitter: @zyangunc
Check out her research here: https://www.sph.emory.edu/faculty/profile/#!ZYANG26
Jul 19, 2019 • 25min
Behind the Markets Podcast: Dr. Mark McClellan
Show from 7/19/19
In this episode of Behind the Markets Host Liqian Ren flies solo and talks to a doctor who works in the Center for Health Policy at Duke University about the future of health care. He says that people should watch the opinions of presidential candidates on health care after the primaries and that the 2020 elections will be key to industry reforms. They also get into the question of how China will improve its health care system using the private sector.
Guest:
Dr. Mark McClellan - The Robert J. Margolis Professor of Business, Medicine, and Policy, and Director of the Duke-Margolis Center for Health Policy at Duke University. Dr. McClellan is a former administrator of the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) and former commissioner of the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA), where he developed and implemented major reforms in health policy.
Follow the Duke-Margolis Center on Twitter: @dukemargolis
Follow his research here: https://healthpolicy.duke.edu/mark-mcclellan-md-phd
Jul 12, 2019 • 30min
Behind The Markets: Thomas Barkin
Show from 7/12/19
In this episode of Behind the Markets, Jeremy Schwartz talks to the President of the Richmond Fed about of the Richmond Fed.about US economic outlook, interest rates, and fed policy.
Guest
Tom Barkin - President and Chief Executive Officer of the Richmond Fed. He joined the Richmond Fed in January 2018.
In this role, he is responsible for the Bank’s monetary policy, bank supervision and regulation, and payment services as well as oversight of the Federal Reserve System’s information technology organization. Barkin served as a voting member in 2018 on the Federal Reserve’s chief monetary policy body, the Federal Open Market Committee.
Prior to joining the Richmond Fed, Barkin was a senior partner and chief financial officer at McKinsey & Company, a worldwide management consulting firm. Barkin oversaw McKinsey’s offices in the southern United States and provided strategic counsel to a diverse portfolio of clients. Barkin also served on the board of directors for the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta from 2009 to 2014 and was the board’s chairman from 2013 to 2014. Barkin is a member of the Emory University Board of Trustees and the Greater Washington Partnership. Barkin earned his bachelor’s, master’s and law degrees from Harvard University.
Follow him on Twitter: @RichmondFed
Jul 12, 2019 • 32min
Behind The Markets: Jesper Koll
Show from 7/12/19
In this episode of Behind the Markets Jeremy Schwartz talks with an expert on Japan. Investors are closely watching Japan, especially after the country's recent trend of capital return to shareholders. From the success of small to medium domestic companies to the effects of activist investors, you'll learn everything you need to know about investing in Japan.
Guest
Jesper Koll was appointed Chief Executive Officer of WisdomTree Japan on July 1, 2015. Over the past two decades Jesper has been consistently ranked as one of the top Japan strategists/economists, working as Chief Strategist and Head of Research for major U.S. investment banks J.P. Morgan and Merrill Lynch. His analysis and insights have earned him a position on several Japanese government advisory committees and Jesper is also one of the few non-Japanese members of the Keizai Doyukai, the Japan Association of Corporate Executives. He has written two books in Japanese, Towards a New Japanese Golden Age and The End of Heisei Deflation. After arriving in Japan in 1986 Jesper initially worked as an aide to a Member of Parliament. Jesper has a Masters degree from the School of Advanced and International Studies at Johns Hopkins University and was a research fellow at both Tokyo University and Kyoto University. He is a graduate of the Lester B. Pearson College of the Pacific.
Twitter: @WisdomTreeETFs

Jun 27, 2019 • 52min
Behind the Markets Podcast: Perth Tolle & Wes Gray
Show from 6/28/19
More and more investors want to use their money to support companies that they can feel good about. In this episode of Behind the Markets, host Jeremy Schwartz talks to the founder of the Life and Liberty Freedom 100 Emerging Markets Index—which takes your money and invests it in developing markets that protect and promote human and economic freedoms. Find out how you can do more socially responsible investing!
Guests:
Perth Tolle: Perth Tolle is the founder of Life + Liberty Indexes. Prior to forming Life + Liberty Indexes, Perth was a private wealth advisor at Fidelity Investments in CA and TX. Prior to Fidelity, Perth lived and worked in Beijing and Hong Kong, where her observations led her to explore the relationship between freedom and markets. Through her China experience she gained a high level of conviction regarding the impact of sound governance, individual freedoms, and rule of law on economic growth and innovation.
Perth is a frequent speaker at investment industry events and is quoted in various financial media. She is a member of Women in ETFs and a graduate of Trinity University with a Bachelor of Science in finance and marketing.
Twitter handle: @Perth_Tolle
Wes Gray: After serving as a Captain in the United States Marine Corps, Dr. Gray earned an MBA and a PhD in finance from the University of Chicago where he studied under Nobel Prize Winner Eugene Fama. Next, Wes took an academic job in his wife’s hometown of Philadelphia and worked as a finance professor at Drexel University. Dr. Gray’s interest in bridging the research gap between academia and industry led him to found Alpha Architect, an asset management firm dedicated to an impact mission of empowering investors through education. He is a contributor to multiple industry publications and regularly speaks to professional investor groups across the country. Wes has published multiple academic papers and four books, including Embedded (Naval Institute Press, 2009), Quantitative Value (Wiley, 2012), DIY Financial Advisor (Wiley, 2015), and Quantitative Momentum (Wiley, 2016).
Dr. Gray currently resides in the suburbs of Philadelphia with his wife and three children.
Twitter handle: @alphaarchitect
Website for Freedom Fund: https://www.lifeandlibertyindexes.com/
Jun 21, 2019 • 54min
Behind The Markets Podcast Special with The Former Bank Of India Governor
Show from 6/21/19
In this special edition of Behind the Markets Hosts Jeremy Schwartz, Jeremy Siegel, Liqian Ren, and Gaurav Sinha talk to the former Governor of the Bank of India, who is now at the University of Chicago. They get insight into monetary policy at its highest levels. Plus an in depth look at European and Asian economies. Find out why he thinks the world cannot continue to rely on cheap money and his opinion on what the slowing growth of the labor force means for global markets.
Guest:
Professor Raghuram Rajan - Katherine Dusak Miller Distinguished Service Professor of Finance at the University of Chicago’s Booth School of Business. He was the 23rd Governor of the Reserve Bank of India between September 2013 and September 2016. Between 2003 and 2006, Dr. Rajan was the Chief Economist and Director of Research at the International Monetary Fund. He’s just published a new book called The Third Pillar: How the State and Markets are leaving Communities Behind.
His Booth Faculty Page: https://www.chicagobooth.edu/faculty/directory/r/raghuram-g-rajan
Link to his book "The Third Pillar" https://www.amazon.com/Third-Pillar-Markets-Community-Behind-ebook/dp/B07DSZFVKS


