Behind the Markets Podcast
Behind the Markets
Jeremy Schwartz, Global Chief Investment Officer at WisdomTree and Jeremy Siegel, professor of finance at Wharton and author of Stocks for the Long Run, host this long-running podcast that dives into the how and why of market performance with leading economists and market strategists to inform you what’s ahead for the economy and your portfolio.
Regularly joining the two Jeremys is the Deep Rooted Macro Team that decodes the forces shaping markets and portfolios worldwide.
Chris Gannatti, CFA, Global Head of Research, offers an analytical and thematic edge—bridging macro trends with on-the-ground technology and innovation. Whether unpacking the infrastructure powering the AI age or latest biotech breakthroughs, Chris translates complexity into conviction.
Jeff Weniger, CFA, Head of Equity Strategy, injects the pulse of behavioral markets and valuation discipline. With sharp macro instincts, Jeff dissects cycles, sentiment, and structural change with trademark clarity and wit.
Sam Rines, Macro Strategist for Model Portfolios, ties the threads together—linking policy, politics, and portfolio construction. His pragmatic macro lens captures how geopolitics, industrial policy, and energy dynamics flow into real-world GeoAlpha.
Together, the Deep Rooted Macro squad creates a fusion of rigorous research, accessible insights, and genuine debate.
Behind the Markets provides a regular masterclass in how the world really works beneath the surface of prices, data, and headlines. Tune in to hear where the Deep Rooted Macro team sees the next big shifts taking root.
Regularly joining the two Jeremys is the Deep Rooted Macro Team that decodes the forces shaping markets and portfolios worldwide.
Chris Gannatti, CFA, Global Head of Research, offers an analytical and thematic edge—bridging macro trends with on-the-ground technology and innovation. Whether unpacking the infrastructure powering the AI age or latest biotech breakthroughs, Chris translates complexity into conviction.
Jeff Weniger, CFA, Head of Equity Strategy, injects the pulse of behavioral markets and valuation discipline. With sharp macro instincts, Jeff dissects cycles, sentiment, and structural change with trademark clarity and wit.
Sam Rines, Macro Strategist for Model Portfolios, ties the threads together—linking policy, politics, and portfolio construction. His pragmatic macro lens captures how geopolitics, industrial policy, and energy dynamics flow into real-world GeoAlpha.
Together, the Deep Rooted Macro squad creates a fusion of rigorous research, accessible insights, and genuine debate.
Behind the Markets provides a regular masterclass in how the world really works beneath the surface of prices, data, and headlines. Tune in to hear where the Deep Rooted Macro team sees the next big shifts taking root.
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Apr 17, 2020 • 27min
Behind The Markets Podcast: Ryan Detrick
Show from 4/17/20
Hosts Jeremy Schwartz and Liqian Ren discuss the long term economic impacts of the COVID-19 pandemic with an expert market strategist from LPL Financial. They discuss topics such as the lows and highs in the stock market in response to volatility and uncertainty. Plus they get into market history and talk about the best ways to work with clients during this crisis.
Guest:
Ryan Detrick - Senior Market Strategist at LPL Financial
For more on LPL Financial: https://www.lpl.com/
Follow him on Twitter: @RyanDetrick

Apr 17, 2020 • 28min
Behind The Markets Podcast: Ronald Barg
Show from 4/17/20
Wharton Finance Professor Jeremy Siegel kicks off the show with a market update and discusses the news about Remdesivir, an antiviral medicine made by Gilead Sciences. Professor Siegel says a therapeutic is most important at this time so that the economy can start up again. Then, Penn Medicine's Dr. Ronald Barg joins the show to explain the impact of COVID-19 on hospitals and the research being done to contain the virus. Dr. Barg said there is still very little known, they don't understand why people who seem to be doing well become worse.
Guest:
Ronald Barg, MD - Physician Executive, Penn Primary Care at Penn Medicine
For more on him visit his physician page: https://www.pennmedicine.org/providers/profile/ronald-barg

Apr 9, 2020 • 22min
Behind the Markets Podcast: Neal Patel & Enrique Mendoza
Show from 4/10/20
Hosts Jeremy Schwartz and Liqian Ren talking to small business owners about their experience with lending programs during the COVID19 pandemic. They discuss the impact of Coronavirus, layoffs, and best practices for small businesses to move forward in this time of crisis.
Guests:
Neal Patel - Founder and Chief Appraiser at Reliant Business Valuation
For more information on Reliant Business Valuation visit their website: https://reliantvalue.com/
Enrique Mendoza - CEO of Bowstring Studios
For more information on Bowstring Studios visit their website: https://bowstring.tv/

Apr 9, 2020 • 33min
Behind The Markets Podcast: Sam Rines
Show from 4/10/20
Hosts Jeremy Schwartz, Liqian Ren, and Professor Jeremy Siegel kick off the show discussing the current state of market during the COVID19 pandemic. According to Professor Siegel we are plateauing in places where social distancing is taking place and things seem positive right now. They discuss the Fed increasing lending with bond ETFs and high yield bonds as well as the government increasing liquidity. Then the Chief Economist at Avalon Advisors joins the show to discuss the aggressive fed stimulus and monetary theory. Plus he gives advice on talking to clients during this trying time.
Guest:
Sam Rines - Chief Economist at Avalon Advisors
For more on Avalon Advisors visit their website: https://avalonadvisors.com/

Apr 3, 2020 • 53min
Behind The Markets Podcast: Ruby Huang & Art Berman
Show from 4/3/20
First, Wharton Finance Professor Jeremy Siegel kicks off the show with his updated take on the economy during the COVID19 pandemic. Professor Siegel says the US government and the Fed have reacted properly by providing income support, calming capital markets, and working through trade issues. He says the most important thing the Fed needs to do right now is flatten the yield curve. Then, Hosts Jeremy Schwartz and Liqian Ren spend the first half of the show discussing the international healthcare response to Coronavirus with an expert in the Asian market to get a handle on best practices and takeaways for the US. Plus, oil executives are at the White House for OPEC meetings. Our hosts discuss the COVID19 crisis and the effects it will have on the oil industry with one of the best commentators on the topic.
Guests:
Dr. Ruby Huang - Professor, School of Medicine, College of Medicine, National Taiwan University, Taiwan.
Arthur Berman - is a petroleum geologist with 36 years of oil and gas industry experience. He is an expert on U.S. shale plays and is currently consulting for several E&P companies and capital groups in the energy sector.
Read his articles here: https://oilprice.com/contributors/Arthur-Berman
Mar 27, 2020 • 53min
Behind the Markets Podcast: COVID-19 Update w/ James Bullard
Show from 3/27/20
Hosts Jeremy Schwartz and Professor Jeremy Siegel bring on James Bullard, CEO and president of the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis, to get the latest on the Coronavirus pandemic and Fed decisions. Bullard says he is pleased with the policy response of Congress and the Fed. Throughout the show they discuss backup tools the Fed could use to stimulate the economy in the event of an emergency, the potential of panicked equity markets, global markets/ trade, and unemployment insurance programs.
Stay safe everyone!
Guest:
James Bullard - CEO and president of the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis
For more information visit: https://www.stlouisfed.org

Mar 20, 2020 • 48min
Behind the Markets Podcast Special : COVID-19 Market Update w/ Experts from WisdomTree
In today's Behind the Markets special Jeremy Schwartz, Professor Jeremy Siegel and Liqian Ren host a round table with members of the WisdomTree staff to look at the economic effects of the COVID-19 pandemic. They talk about the intersection of solvency, massive increases in risk premiums, retail, and the impact on financial institutions, among other topics. According to Professor Siegel the question to ask is "When we look forward to 2021 can we see normal resumption of activities? Because if we get back to last years earnings then we're selling at a good multiple." Tune in for the latest financial briefing.
Mar 12, 2020 • 53min
Behind The Markets: COVID-19 & Market Outloook w/ Guest James Bianco
Show from 3/13/2020
As the COVID-19 effects take a toll on the economy, Behind the Markets Podcast is here to give you the latest outlook. Hosts Jeremy Schwartz and Jeremy Siegel discuss the immediate threat of Coronavirus for the economy. This is "the biggest retreat from record highs to a bear market in history," according to Professor Siegel. Then they bring on market research expert James Bianco who says Coronavirus cases are doubling every 3 days and the US is on track to have 10's of 1000's in the next few weeks. James says we need to ensure proper measures are taken so the US can rebound to pre-virus levels.
Guest:
James Bianco - Head of Bianco Research
Check out Bianco Research here: https://www.biancoresearch.com/visitor-home/

Mar 4, 2020 • 53min
Behind The Markets Podcast: Manish Singh & Dave Donabedian
Show from 3/6/20
This episode of Behind the Markets starts off with the usual Jeremy Siegel market update. He discusses the jobs report and looking ahead to an economic downturn. Then Jeremy Schwartz and Liqian Ren bring on an expert on monetary policy, Manish Singh. He gets into Coronavirus, safe haven assets, and the promise of fiscal coming from Europe. Plus in the second half of the show the CIO of CIBC Private Wealth Management comes on to talk more about the effects of the Coronavirus, drops in treasury yields, energy markets, and portfolio strategy going forward in the wake of volatility.
Guests:
Manish Singh - Chief Investment Officer at Crossbridge Capital, discusses U.S. monetary policy and financial markets.
For more on Crossbridge Capital visit their website: https://www.crossbridgecapital.com/
Dave Donabedian - Chief Investment Officer of CIBC Private Wealth Management
CIBC Private Wealth website: wealth.us.cibc.com

Feb 28, 2020 • 53min
Behind The Markets: Maura Pape & Brendan Ahern
Show from 2/28/20
Professor Jeremy Siegel kicks off the show discussing market disruption due to the spread of the Coronavirus. He covers the impact of low earnings rates, the future of stocks and bonds, and the potential of a fed basis rate decline. Then hosts Liqian Ren and Jeremy Schwartz talk to two guests about the impacts of coronavirus globally on markets. Their first guest, Maura Pape, is a data analyst who gathers high frequency data to evaluate bounce back in China. She says two indicators in China have been bouncing back, industrial and people movement. Plus they bring on China expert Brendan Ahern to look at different ways of accessing the Chinese market.
Guests
Maura Pape - Strategist Director of Business Development for DeepMacro
DeepMacro Website: https://beta.deepmacro.com/
Brendan Ahern - The CIO of KraneShares
KraneShares Website: https://kraneshares.com/


