Behind the Markets Podcast
Behind the Markets
Jeremy Schwartz, Global Chief Investment Officer at WisdomTree and Jeremy Siegel, professor of finance at Wharton and author of Stocks for the Long Run, host this long-running podcast that dives into the how and why of market performance with leading economists and market strategists to inform you what’s ahead for the economy and your portfolio.
Regularly joining the two Jeremys is the Deep Rooted Macro Team that decodes the forces shaping markets and portfolios worldwide.
Chris Gannatti, CFA, Global Head of Research, offers an analytical and thematic edge—bridging macro trends with on-the-ground technology and innovation. Whether unpacking the infrastructure powering the AI age or latest biotech breakthroughs, Chris translates complexity into conviction.
Jeff Weniger, CFA, Head of Equity Strategy, injects the pulse of behavioral markets and valuation discipline. With sharp macro instincts, Jeff dissects cycles, sentiment, and structural change with trademark clarity and wit.
Sam Rines, Macro Strategist for Model Portfolios, ties the threads together—linking policy, politics, and portfolio construction. His pragmatic macro lens captures how geopolitics, industrial policy, and energy dynamics flow into real-world GeoAlpha.
Together, the Deep Rooted Macro squad creates a fusion of rigorous research, accessible insights, and genuine debate.
Behind the Markets provides a regular masterclass in how the world really works beneath the surface of prices, data, and headlines. Tune in to hear where the Deep Rooted Macro team sees the next big shifts taking root.
Regularly joining the two Jeremys is the Deep Rooted Macro Team that decodes the forces shaping markets and portfolios worldwide.
Chris Gannatti, CFA, Global Head of Research, offers an analytical and thematic edge—bridging macro trends with on-the-ground technology and innovation. Whether unpacking the infrastructure powering the AI age or latest biotech breakthroughs, Chris translates complexity into conviction.
Jeff Weniger, CFA, Head of Equity Strategy, injects the pulse of behavioral markets and valuation discipline. With sharp macro instincts, Jeff dissects cycles, sentiment, and structural change with trademark clarity and wit.
Sam Rines, Macro Strategist for Model Portfolios, ties the threads together—linking policy, politics, and portfolio construction. His pragmatic macro lens captures how geopolitics, industrial policy, and energy dynamics flow into real-world GeoAlpha.
Together, the Deep Rooted Macro squad creates a fusion of rigorous research, accessible insights, and genuine debate.
Behind the Markets provides a regular masterclass in how the world really works beneath the surface of prices, data, and headlines. Tune in to hear where the Deep Rooted Macro team sees the next big shifts taking root.
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Dec 16, 2021 • 23min
Behind The Markets Podcast: Jay Jacobs
Show from 12/17/21
Host Jeremy Schwartz talks to Jay Jacobs, an expert on disruptive growth technologies, about his new report Charting Disruption 2022 Thematic Outlook. They get into the fed’s influence on markets, reopening stocks, ecommerce, cloud computing, China, and more.
Guest:
Jay Jacobs – SVP, Head of Research & Strategy at Global X ETFs
Read Jay’s “Charting Disruption 2022 Thematic Outlook: https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2021/12/08/2348404/0/en/Global-X-ETFs-Announces-the-Release-of-its-Charting-Disruption-2022-Thematic-Outlook.html
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Connect with Jay on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jay-jacobs-cfa/
For more on Global X visit their website: https://www.globalxetfs.com/
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Dec 16, 2021 • 31min
Behind the Markets Podcast: Former VC of the Federal Reserve Donald Kohn
Show from 12/17/21
Wharton Finance Professor Jeremy Siegel and Host Jeremy Schwartz talk to Former Vice Chair of the Federal Reserve Donald Kohn about inflation, the COVID-19 omicron variant, M2, inversion of the yield curve, and more. Professor Siegel notes the lagging labor force participation and its influence on inflation. Plus Donald gives his take on markets and recent fed decisions.
Guest:
Donald Kohn - Former Vice Chair of the Federal Reserve
For more information on Donald visit the Brookings Institution website: https://www.brookings.edu/experts/donald-kohn/
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Dec 10, 2021 • 52min
Behind The Markets Podcast: David Cohen & Matthew Patterson
Show from 12/10/21
Wharton Finance Professor Jeremy Siegel kicks off the show with inflation, interest rates, the fed, and equity markets. Then what is the future of handls? Host Jeremy Schwartz and Guest Host Rick Harper talk to the co-founders of HANDL Indexes, a company trying to respond to the income needs of investors and create a better alternative. They discuss closed-end funds, leverage limitations, ETFs, volatility, and more.
Guests:
David Cohen – Co-Founder of HANDL Indexes
Follow David on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-cohen-3810a45/
For more on HANDL Indexes visit their website: https://www.handlsindexes.com/
Matthew Patterson - Co-Founder of HANDL Indexes
Follow Matthew on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pattersonmatthew/
Rick Harper – Head of Fixed Income and Currency at WisdomTree Asset Management
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Dec 3, 2021 • 51min
Behind The Markets Podcast: Phil Huber
Show from 12/3/21
Wharton Finance Professor Jeremy Siegel starts the show with his weekly market update noting the strong employment report, the yield curve, the long bond, and more. Then, are you interested in alternative asset classes? In this episode of Behind the Markets Host Jeremy Schwartz and Guest Host Chris Gannatti talk to the author of “The Allocator’s Edge” about the shifting landscape for traditional portfolios, asset classes and strategies for alternative investments, and sharpening client skills to manage expectations. They discuss everything from private equity, hedge funds, catastrophe reinsurance, and real assets to non-traditional credit.
Guests:
Phil Huber – CIO of Savant Wealth Management and author of “The Allocator's Edge: A Modern Guide to Alternative Investments and the Future of Diversification”
Click here to purchase Phil’s book: https://www.amazon.com/Phil-Huber/e/B097TRDTD2%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share
Follow him on Twitter: @bpsandpieces
For more on Savant Wealth Management visit their website: https://savantwealth.com/employee/philip-r-huber/
Christopher Gannatti - Head Of Research, Europe at WisdomTree Asset Management
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Nov 19, 2021 • 53min
Behind The Markets Podcast: Damon Ficklin
Show from 11/19/21
Wharton Finance Professor Jeremy Siegel kicks off the show discussing the impact of the COVID surge in Europe, inflation, Fed tapering, and more. Then Host Jeremy Schwartz talks with a growth expert from Polen Capital about portfolio strategy. They discuss the importance of market valuation, evaluating the performance of individual companies, and exposure in the US vs globally.
Guest:
Damon Ficklin – Head of Team, Portfolio Manager & Analyst at Polen Capital
For more on Polen Capital visit their website: https://www.polencapital.com/people/damon-ficklin
For the latest, follow Polen Capital on Twitter: @PolenCapital
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Nov 11, 2021 • 52min
Behind The Markets Podcast: Aaron Klein
Show from 11/12/21
Wharton Finance Professor Jeremy Siegel starts the show with his market update covering the latest inflation news, oil prices, wages, supply constraints and more. Then, how can you use data to make informed risk related decisions in the Fintech market? Host Jeremy Schwartz and Guest Host Ryan Krystopowicz discuss data analytics, risk management, and the macro view on model portfolios with an expert in the Fintech space.
Guest:
Aaron Klein – Founder and CEO of Riskalyze
Follow Aaron on Twitter: @AaronKlein
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For more on Riskalyze visit their website: https://www.riskalyze.com/
Ryan S. Krystopowicz – Associate Director, Product Solutions Strategist-Model Portfolios at WisdomTree
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Definitions:
Consumer Price Index (CPI): A measure that examines the weighted average of prices of a basket of consumer goods and services, such as transportation, food, and medical care.
Producer Price Index (PPI): weighted index of prices measured at the wholesale, or producer level. Long bond is often a term used to refer to the longest maturity bond offering from the U.S. Treasury, the 30-year Treasury bond.
Inverted Yield Curve : An interest rate environment in which long-term debt instruments have a lower yield than short-term debt instruments of the same credit quality. OS stands for operating system, in this context is used to convey the solutions that can be plugged-in / integrated into the actual foundation / platform the advisor is using. Professor Siegel commented the Fed could be at risk of inverting the curve- as he believes the Fed will have to hike short-term interest rates to 2-3% to combat inflation, and the way the 10-year bond is trading, it risks having short rates rise above long-term rates (inverted curve).
Nov 4, 2021 • 53min
Behind The Markets Podcast: Warren Pies
Show from 11/5/21
Wharton Finance Professor Jeremy Siegel delivers a positive market update this week. He says Powell is not worried about inflation or rate increases, employment numbers are above expectations, and reopening trades are doing well. Then, how should you think about quantitative models and research? Host Jeremy Schwartz talks to the founder of 3Fourteen Research where they run regression trend lines through every market to ensure accuracy of data. All that and more.
Guest:
Warren Pies – Founder and Strategist at 3Fourteen Research
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For more on 3Fourteen Research visit their website: https://www.3fourteenresearch.com/
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Oct 29, 2021 • 53min
Behind the Markets Podcast: Michael McClary
Show from 10/29/21
Wharton Finance Professor Jeremy Siegel starts the show with his weekly market update. He discusses the 1.3% increase in the Employment Cost Index, inflation, labor costs, fed pricing and more. Then Host Jeremy Schwartz brings on an ETF expert from Valmark Advisers, Inc. They get into common mistakes made when building portfolios such as active management and decisions based on one variable. Plus a look at Valmark Advisers, LLC’s new index focused on equities.
Guest:
Michael McClary – Chief Investment Officer at ValMark Advisers, Inc
For more on ValMark Advisors visit their website: https://www.valmarkfg.com/site/
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Definitions:
Put option: an option to sell assets at an agreed price on or before a particular date.
Call options: Financial contracts that give the option buyer the right, but not the obligation, to buy a stock, bond, commodity or other asset or instrument at a specified price within a specific time period.
Long/short: An investing strategy that takes long positions in stocks that are expected to appreciate and short positions in stocks that are expected to decline.
In the money: An in-the-money call option is an option with a strike price below the current market price.
Out of the money: An out-of-the-money call option is an option with a strike price above the current market price.
Strike Price: The set price at which a derivative contract can be bought or sold when it is exercised.
Oct 22, 2021 • 49min
Behind The Markets Podcast: Larry Adam
Show from 10/22/21
Wharton Finance Professor Jeremy Siegel kicks off the show with his market outlook. What are possible supply side disruptions? What are the current inflation expectations? Then Host Jeremy Schwartz brings on the Chief Investment Officer at Raymond James to discuss market strategy and portfolio management. They cover everything from earnings growth and inflation pressures to energy prices.
Guest:
Larry Adam – Chief Investment Officer at Raymond James
Follow him on Twitter: @LarryAdamRJ
For more on Raymond James visit their website: https://www.raymondjames.com/palmerplanellswealth/larry-adam.htm#:~:text=Larry%20Adam%20joined%20Raymond%20James,Deutsche%20Bank%20Private%20Wealth%20Management.
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Oct 15, 2021 • 21min
Behind The Markets Podcast: Ken Gavrity
Show from 10/15/21
Host Jeremy Schwartz talks to an expert on the Fintech space to discuss the growing ecommerce space. They discuss changing payment flows, incorporating new software, improved transactions, and more. They get into all of the new ways businesses are working to digitize commerce.
Guest:
Ken Gavrity – Executive Vice President and Head of Enterprise Payments, KeyCorp
For more on KeyBank visit their website: https://www.key.com/about/index.jsp
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