Behind the Markets Podcast
Behind the Markets
Jeremy Schwartz, Global Chief Investment Officer at WisdomTree and Jeremy Siegel, professor of finance at Wharton and author of Stocks for the Long Run, host this long-running podcast that dives into the how and why of market performance with leading economists and market strategists to inform you what’s ahead for the economy and your portfolio.
Regularly joining the two Jeremys is the Deep Rooted Macro Team that decodes the forces shaping markets and portfolios worldwide.
Chris Gannatti, CFA, Global Head of Research, offers an analytical and thematic edge—bridging macro trends with on-the-ground technology and innovation. Whether unpacking the infrastructure powering the AI age or latest biotech breakthroughs, Chris translates complexity into conviction.
Jeff Weniger, CFA, Head of Equity Strategy, injects the pulse of behavioral markets and valuation discipline. With sharp macro instincts, Jeff dissects cycles, sentiment, and structural change with trademark clarity and wit.
Sam Rines, Macro Strategist for Model Portfolios, ties the threads together—linking policy, politics, and portfolio construction. His pragmatic macro lens captures how geopolitics, industrial policy, and energy dynamics flow into real-world GeoAlpha.
Together, the Deep Rooted Macro squad creates a fusion of rigorous research, accessible insights, and genuine debate.
Behind the Markets provides a regular masterclass in how the world really works beneath the surface of prices, data, and headlines. Tune in to hear where the Deep Rooted Macro team sees the next big shifts taking root.
Regularly joining the two Jeremys is the Deep Rooted Macro Team that decodes the forces shaping markets and portfolios worldwide.
Chris Gannatti, CFA, Global Head of Research, offers an analytical and thematic edge—bridging macro trends with on-the-ground technology and innovation. Whether unpacking the infrastructure powering the AI age or latest biotech breakthroughs, Chris translates complexity into conviction.
Jeff Weniger, CFA, Head of Equity Strategy, injects the pulse of behavioral markets and valuation discipline. With sharp macro instincts, Jeff dissects cycles, sentiment, and structural change with trademark clarity and wit.
Sam Rines, Macro Strategist for Model Portfolios, ties the threads together—linking policy, politics, and portfolio construction. His pragmatic macro lens captures how geopolitics, industrial policy, and energy dynamics flow into real-world GeoAlpha.
Together, the Deep Rooted Macro squad creates a fusion of rigorous research, accessible insights, and genuine debate.
Behind the Markets provides a regular masterclass in how the world really works beneath the surface of prices, data, and headlines. Tune in to hear where the Deep Rooted Macro team sees the next big shifts taking root.
Episodes
Mentioned books
Dec 16, 2022 • 53min
Behind The Markets Podcast: Bob Pisani
Show from 12/16/22
Wharton Finance Professor Jeremy Siegel kicks off the show with his weekly market update. He talks about the Fed, raising rates, and what he feels is incorrect data from BLS. Then, Bob Pisani joins Host Jeremy Schwartz to discuss markets and market history and his upcoming book "Shut Up and Keep Talking: Lessons on Life and Investing From the Floor of the New York Stock Exchange".
Guest:
Bob Pisani- CNBC On-Air Stocks Editor, he also covers initial public offerings (IPOs), exchange-traded funds (ETFs) and financial market structure for CNBC
For more from Bob visit: https://www.cnbc.com/trader-talk/
Follow Bob on Twitter: @BobPisani
Follow WisdomTree on Twitter: @WisdomTreeETFs
Follow Jeremy Schwartz on Twitter: @JeremyDSchwartz
Dec 9, 2022 • 52min
Behind The Markets Podcast: Nitesh Shah & Aneeka Gupta
Show from 12/9/22
Wharton Finance Professor Jeremy Siegel starts the show with his market update talking about the Fed, inflation, labor costs, rising productivity, and GDP. Host Jeremy Schwartz broadcasts from London and discusses the global macro and European markets with his colleagues who are experts in the space. They discuss ESG investing, the energy sector in the wake of the Russia Ukraine war, commodities, and more.
Guests:
Nitesh Shah – Head of Commodities & Macroeconomic Research, WisdomTree Europe
Follow Nitesh on Twitter for the latest: @NiteshShahWT
Follow Nitesh on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nitesh-shah-7150162/?originalSubdomain=uk
Aneeka Gupta – Equity & Commodity Strategist, WisdomTree Europe
Follow Aneeka on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aneekaperis/?originalSubdomain=uk
Follow WisdomTree on Twitter: @WisdomTreeETFs
Follow Jeremy Schwartz on Twitter: @JeremyDSchwartz
Dec 2, 2022 • 50min
Behind The Markets Podcast: Robert Rich & Edward S Knotek II
Show from 12/2/22
Wharton Finance Professor Jeremy Siegel kicks off the show with his weekly market update. He talks about the status of inflation, the money supply, unemployment, and wages. Then Host Jeremy Schwartz brings on two guests from the Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland to further discuss inflation, trends in productivity growth, the spike in bond yields, and more.
Guests:
Robert Rich – Director of the Center for Inflation Research and a senior economic and policy advisor in the Research Department at the Federal Reserve
For more on Robert, visit his page on the Federal Reserve’s website: https://www.clevelandfed.org/people/profiles/r/rich-robert-w
Follow the Cleveland Federal Reserve on Twitter: @ClevelandFed
Edward S. Knotek II – Senior vice president and the associate research director at the Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland
For more on Edward, visit his page on the Federal Reserve’s website: https://www.clevelandfed.org/people/profiles/k/knotek-edward-s-ii
Follow WisdomTree on Twitter: @WisdomTreeETFs
Follow Jeremy Schwartz on Twitter: @JeremyDSchwartz
Nov 19, 2022 • 55min
Behind The Markets Podcast: Michael McClary
Show from 11/18/22
Wharton Finance Professor Jeremy Siegel kicks off the show with his weekly market update. He talks about the Fed, changes in the labor market, and estimates of Q4 consumer spending. Then, Michael McClary joins Host Jeremy Schwartz to discuss inflation, recession, China, and much more.
Guest:
Michael McClary- Chief Investment Officer of Valmark Advisers, Inc. and Valmark Financial Group, LLC
Follow Valmark on Twitter: @ValmarkFG
For more from Michael visit: www.etf.com/contributors/michael-mcclary
Follow WisdomTree on Twitter: @WisdomTreeETFs
Follow Jeremy Schwartz on Twitter: @JeremyDSchwartz
Investors should carefully consider the investment objectives, risks, charges and expenses of the Fund before investing. To obtain a prospectus containing this and other important information, call 866.909.9473 or visit WisdomTree.com. Read the prospectus carefully before you invest. There are risks associated with investing, including possible loss of principal.
The Fund is actively managed and implements a strategy similar to the methodology of the TOPS® Global Equity Target Range™ Index (the “Index”), which seeks to track the performance of a cash-secured call spread option strategy. There can be no assurance that the Index or the Fund will achieve its respective investment objectives, or that the Fund will successfully implement its investment strategy. Moreover, while the Fund seeks to target returns within a prescribed range thereby minimizing downside investment loss, there can be no guarantee that an investor in the Fund will experience limited downside protection, particularly short-term investors, investors that seek to time the market and/or investors that invest over a period other than the annual period. The Fund’s options strategy will subject Fund returns to an upside limitation on returns attributable to the assets underlying the options. The Fund’s investments in options may be subject to volatile swings in price influenced by changes in the value of the underlying ETFs or other reference asset. The return on an options contract may not correlate with the return of its underlying reference asset. The Fund may utilize FLEX Options to carry out its investment strategy. FLEX Options may be less liquid than standard options, which may make it more difficult for the Fund to close out of its FLEX Options positions at desired times and prices. The Fund’s use of derivatives will give rise to leverage and derivatives can be volatile and may be less liquid than other securities. As a result, the value of an investment in the Fund may change quickly and without warning and you may lose money. Investment exposure to securities and instruments traded in non-U.S., developing or emerging markets can involve additional risks relating to political, economic, or regulatory conditions not associated with investments in U.S. securities and more developed international markets. These and other factors can make investments in the Fund more volatile and potentially less liquid than other types of investments. Please read the Fund’s prospectus for specific details regarding the Fund’s risk profile.
WisdomTree Funds are distributed by Foreside Fund Services, LLC, in the U.S.Foreside Fund Services, LLC, is not affiliated with the entities mentioned.
Nov 11, 2022 • 53min
Behind The Markets Podcast: Andrew Okrongly & Ben Clissold
Show from 11/11/22
Wharton Finance Professor Jeremy Siegel kicks off the show with his weekly market update discussing US inflation data, housing, international exchange rates, and cryptocurrency. Then experts on the UK market join Hosts Jeremy Schwartz and Professor Siegel to talk about interest rates, quantitative easing, bonds, pensions, and more.
Guests:
Andrew Okrongly – Director, Model Portfolios at WisdomTree
Follow Andrew on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-okrongly-1a572420/
Ben Clissold – Head of Fixed Income & Treasury at USS
Follow Ben on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-clissold-b4b1a017/?originalSubdomain=uk
Follow WisdomTree on Twitter: @WisdomTreeETFs
Follow Jeremy Schwartz on Twitter: @JeremyDSchwartz
Nov 4, 2022 • 53min
Behind The Markets Podcast: Sam Rines
Show from 11/4/22
Host Jeremy Schwartz is joined by author and Managing Director at Corbu LLC, Sam Rines, to discuss Professor Siegel's view on inflation (or de-inflation), Chinese tech and markets, and trends in employment numbers, among other topics.
Guest:
Sam Rines - Managing Director, Corbu LLC, Author of "After Normal: Making Sense of the Global Economy"
Follow the Jared on Twitter: @SamuelRines
Buy Sam's book here: https://www.amazon.com/After-Normal-Making-Global-Economy/dp/1974166198
Follow WisdomTree on Twitter: @WisdomTreeETFs
Follow Jeremy Schwartz on Twitter: @JeremyDSchwartz
Oct 28, 2022 • 53min
Behind The Markets Podcast: Jared Dillian
Show from 10/28/22
Wharton Finance Professor Jeremy Siegel kicks off the show with his weekly market update. He talks about fluctuations in the tech market, inflation finally showing signs of slowing, and the Fed's data lagging with what's really happening in the housing market. Then, author Jared Dillian joins Host Jeremy Schwartz to discuss rate hikes, Europe's market future, and commodity trading.
Guest:
Jared Dillian - Editor of The Daily Dirtnap, host of Be Smart podcast, Author of "All the Evil Of This World"
Follow the Jared on Twitter: @dailydirtnap
For more from Jared visit www.jareddillianmoney.com/
Follow WisdomTree on Twitter: @WisdomTreeETFs
Follow Jeremy Schwartz on Twitter: @JeremyDSchwartz
Oct 21, 2022 • 53min
Behind The Markets Podcast: James Bullard
Show from 10/21/22
Wharton Finance Professor Jeremy Siegel kicks off the show with his weekly market update. He talks about the status of inflation, the slowdown in money supply, and the inconsistencies in GDP data. Then, the 12th president of the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis James Bullard joins Professor Siegel and Host Jeremy Schwartz to discuss the economic events of 2022, productivity numbers, labor markets, the inverted yield curve, and more.
Guest:
James Bullard - Chief executive officer and 12th president of the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis
Follow the St. Louis Fed on Twitter: @stlouisfed
For more interviews with Bullard visit: https://www.stlouisfed.org/from-the-president
Follow WisdomTree on Twitter: @WisdomTreeETFs
Follow Jeremy Schwartz on Twitter: @JeremyDSchwartz
Oct 13, 2022 • 53min
Behind The Markets Podcast: John Mousseau & Jordan Howell
Show from 10/14/22
Wharton Finance Professor Jeremy Siegel discusses how the core rate rose above expectations, the recession, consumer expectations, and the money supply. Then Host Jeremy Schwartz broadcasts from Rowan University talking to 2 finance experts, one in the bond market and the other in ESG investing.
Guest:
John Mousseau – The President, Chief Executive Officer, and Director of Fixed Income at Cumberland Advisors
Follow Cumberland Advisors on Twitter: @CumberlandADV
For more on Cumberland Advisors, visit their website: https://www.cumber.com/
Jordan Howell, Ph.D. – Associate Professor of Sustainable Business at Rowan University
Visit Jordan’s website: https://www.jordanphowell.org/
Visit Jordan’s Rowan faculty profile: https://business.rowan.edu/faculty-staff/howell_faculty.html
Follow WisdomTree on Twitter: @WisdomTreeETFs
Follow Jeremy Schwartz on Twitter: @JeremyDSchwartz
Oct 7, 2022 • 53min
Behind The Markets Podcast: Jason Draho
Show from 10/7/22
Wharton Finance Professor Jeremy Siegel talks about the unemployment rate dropping, inflation pressures, mid-term elections, and more. Then Host Jeremy Schwartz and Head of Asset Allocation Americas of UBS Global Wealth Management Jason Draho discuss the overall macro environment, the effects of stagflation, wage growth, and economy versus the markets.
Guest:
Jason Draho – Head of Asset Allocation Americas of UBS Global Wealth Management and Chair of the US Investment Strategy Committee
Follow Jason on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jason-draho-707b064/
For more on UBS, visit their website: https://www.ubs.com/us/en.html
For the latest, follow UBS on Twitter: @UBS
Follow WisdomTree on Twitter: @WisdomTreeETFs
Follow Jeremy Schwartz on Twitter: @JeremyDSchwartz


