The History of Literature

Matthew Zapruder, poet, essayist, and professor known for Why Poetry and editing the NYT Magazine poetry page, explores why poetry feels inaccessible and how to reclaim it. He recounts pivotal readings, discusses Auden and Keats, and teases language as a machine for feeling. Short riffs on craft, form, and thinkers like Wittgenstein and Valéry round out the conversation.

Travis Franks, an assistant professor studying Native and Indigenous literature, discusses John Rollin Ridge, the Cherokee-born author of the first Native American novel. They explore Ridge’s turbulent life, his novel about Joaquín Murrieta, contradictions in his politics and actions, and newly uncovered early poems that reshape what we know about his beginnings.

Daniel A. Olivas, attorney and Chicano writer known for Chicano Frankenstein and Waiting for Godínez, reflects on literature as a way to humanize those targeted by anti-immigration sentiment. He discusses balancing law and creativity, inspirations from Mary Shelley and Beckett, and how fiction and drama confront dehumanizing politics. Janet Todd also shares her choice for a last book.

William O. Stephens, a philosophy professor and Stoicism scholar, guides listeners through Marcus Aurelius’s life as a ruling philosopher. The conversation covers Marcus’s upbringing, Stoic practice and private memoranda, his austere character, co-rule with Lucius Verus, wartime leadership and the Antonine Plague, and the tension between philosophical ideals and imperial realities.

A wide-ranging look at how the Global North shapes perceptions of the far Southern Hemisphere and why that matters for culture and identity. Conversations cover southern myths, oceanic perspectives, and the historical sweep from Indigenous stories to modern literature. A playful detour asks what book someone would choose as their last read.

Zoë McGee, a literary scholar and author of Courting Disaster who studies Regency novels and gender, explores how 18th- and 19th-century fiction grapples with consent. She compares novels by Austen, Burney and others with court records. Short, clear conversations cover legal definitions, marriage and autonomy, patterns in trials, and why we sentimentalize the Regency.

A novelist discusses a 77-year-old protagonist forced to revisit earlier life stages after a shocking pregnancy. They probe moving into retirement, shifting caregiving roles, and cultural discomfort with elderly sexuality. A Shakespearean frame and literary influences like King Lear and Mantel shape the conversation. A scholar also explains why Middlemarch might be the last book he would ever read.

In an 1886 letter to his brother, Anton Chekhov delivered some advice about truthfulness in writing. "Don't invent sufferings you have not experienced," he wrote, "and don't paint pictures you have not seen--for a lie in a story is much more boring than a lie in conversation." In this episode, Jacke talks to editor Bob Blaisdell about the book Chekhov on Writing: the Mentor, the Self-Critic, Literary Questions, and Fictional Writers, which gathers the wisdom and grace of one of literature's most celebrated artists. The music in this episode is by Gabriel Ruiz-Bernal. Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠gabrielruizbernal.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Help support the show at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/literature⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠or ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠historyofliterature.com/donate⁠⁠⁠⁠. The History of Literature Podcast is a member of Lit Hub Radio and the Podglomerate Network. Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠thepodglomerate.com/historyofliterature⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike Palindrome, longtime literature enthusiast who often returns to beloved books, reflects on Ernest Hemingway and The Sun Also Rises. He and Jacke trace Hemingway’s Paris years, wartime effects on character, and the book’s move from Paris to Spain. They debate macho posturing, moments of vulnerability, bullfighting scenes, and the novel’s spare, journalistic style.

For thousands of years, writers from ancient China to contemporary meme-makers have demonstrated the power of the short, witty, philosophical phrases known as aphorisms. In this episode, Jacke talks to James Geary (The World in a Phrase: A Brief History of the Aphorism) about his decades-long effort to collect, catalogue, and celebrate the oldest written art form on the planet. PLUS author Paul Chrystal (Miracula: Weird and Wonderful Stories of Ancient Greece and Rome) stops by to discuss his choice for the last book he will ever read. Join Jacke on a trip through literary England! Join Jacke and fellow literature fans on an eight-day journey through literary England in partnership with ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠John Shors Travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ in May 2026! Scheduled stops include The Charles Dickens Museum, Dr. Johnson's house, Jane Austen's Bath, Tolkien's Oxford, Shakespeare's Globe Theater, and more. Learn more by emailing ⁠⁠jackewilsonauthor@gmail.com⁠⁠ or ⁠⁠masahiko@johnshorstravel.com⁠⁠, or by contacting us through our website ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠historyofliterature.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Act now - sign-up closes March 1! The music in this episode is by Gabriel Ruiz-Bernal. Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠gabrielruizbernal.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Help support the show at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/literature⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠or ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠historyofliterature.com/donate⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. The History of Literature Podcast is a member of Lit Hub Radio and the Podglomerate Network. Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠thepodglomerate.com/historyofliterature⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices