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Mar 1, 2022 • 54min
Dmitry Orlov: Russia’s Incursion Into Ukraine Necessary for Security
Dmitry Orlov discusses the Ukraine situation and Russia undoing 30 years worth of accumulated damage, while the West punishes itself attempting to thwart Moscow. He discusses the legality of Russia’s military incursion which is absolutely necessary in terms of its security. Putin’s goals are to militarily neutralize Ukraine, get rid of the Nazi extremists, and form a new legal structure. Regarding energy, the U.S. can’t go without Russia for more than a few months, Russia can go without the U.S. practically forever. Western hysteria threatens escalation of the conflict. Dmitry reveals the mystery of why Putin sits at the far end of the table. He feels the U.S. is destroying the dollar which will destroy American living standards. Western leaders are losing their electorate and he’s concerned of the mental damage that has occurred throughout the West and thinks living in a place of social cohesion will be important.
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Geopolitics & Empire · Dmitry Orlov: Russia’s Incursion Into Ukraine Necessary for Security #267
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Books
Books https://www.amazon.com/Dmitry-Orlov/e/B001JSB23G/ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_2?qid=1544257309&sr=8-2
About Dmitry Orlov
Dmitry Orlov is a Russian-American engineer and a writer on subjects related to “potential economic, ecological and political decline and collapse in the United States,” something he has called “permanent crisis”. Orlov believes collapse will be the result of huge military budgets, government deficits, an unresponsive political system and declining oil production.
Orlov was born in Leningrad (now Saint Petersburg) and moved to the United States at the age of 12. He has a BS in Computer Engineering and an MA in Applied Linguistics. He was an eyewitness to the collapse of the Soviet Union over several extended visits to his Russian homeland between the late 1980s and mid-1990s.
In 2005 and 2006 Orlov wrote a number of articles comparing the collapse-preparedness of the U.S. and the Soviet Union published on small Peak Oil related sites. Orlov’s article “Closing the ‘Collapse Gap’: the USSR was better prepared for collapse than the US” was very popular at EnergyBulletin.Net.
Orlov’s book Reinventing Collapse:The Soviet Example and American Prospects, published in 2008, further details his views. Discussing the book in 2009, in a piece in The New Yorker, Ben McGrath wrote that Orlov describes “superpower collapse soup” common to both the U.S. and the Soviet Union: “a severe shortfall in the production of crude oil, a worsening foreign-trade deficit, an oversized military budget, and crippling foreign debt.” Orlov told interviewer McGrath that in recent months financial professionals had begun to make up more of his audience, joining “back-to-the-land types,” “peak oilers,” and those sometimes derisively called “doomers”.
In his review of the book, commentator Thom Hartmann writes that Orlov holds that the Soviet Union hit a “soft crash” because of centralized planning in: housing, agriculture, and transportation left an infrastructure private citizens could co-opt so that no one had to pay rent or go homeless and people showed up for work, even when they were not paid. He writes that Orlov believes the U.S. will have a hard crash, more like Germany’s Weimar Republic of the 1920s.
*Podcast intro music is from the song “The Queens Jig” by “Musicke & Mirth” from their album “Music for Two Lyra Viols”: http://musicke-mirth.de/en/recordings.html (available on iTunes or Amazon)

Feb 27, 2022 • 1h 4min
Cynthia Chung: The Esoteric & Eugenicist Roots of the Great Reset
Cynthia Chung does a deep dive on the roots of the dystopian technocracy and scientific dictatorship that ruling elites are attempting to bring about. She covers the waterfront with the Huxleys, Darwin, Wells, Russell, and more. We get into Blavatsky, Bailey, and Crowley. She discusses how they have long desired a scientific dictatorship to curb the population as well as human creativity. Yuval Harari is a disciple of H.G. Wells and Bertrand Russell is very important to understand in the context of The Great Reset which is centered around transhumanism and cybernetics.
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Geopolitics & Empire · Cynthia Chung: The Esoteric & Eugenicist Roots of the Great Reset #266
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Show Notes
Who Will Be Brave in Huxley’s New World? https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2021/10/17/who-will-be-brave-in-huxley-new-world
Who Will Brave in Huxley’s New World: The War on Science and the 20th Century Descent of Man https://cynthiachung.substack.com/p/who-will-brave-in-huxleys-new-world
The Origins of the Counterculture Movement: A Gathering of Anarchists, Occultists and Psychoanalysts for a New Age https://cynthiachung.substack.com/p/the-origins-of-the-counterculture
Huxley’s Ultimate Revolution: The Battle for Your Mind and the Relativity of Madness https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2021/12/11/huxleys-ultimate-revolution-the-battle-for-your-mind-and-the-relativity-of-madness
Websites
Rising Tide Foundation https://risingtidefoundation.net
Substack https://cynthiachung.substack.com
Strategic Culture https://www.strategic-culture.org/contributors/cynthia-chung
About Cynthia Chung
Cynthia is Editor-in-Chief and co-founder of the Rising Tide Foundation. She has lectured on the topics of Schiller’s aesthetics, Shakespeare’s tragedies, Roman history, the Florentine Renaissance among other subjects. She is a writer for Strategic Culture Foundation, and is a contributing author to the book series “The Clash of the Two Americas.”
*Podcast intro music is from the song “The Queens Jig” by “Musicke & Mirth” from their album “Music for Two Lyra Viols”: http://musicke-mirth.de/en/recordings.html (available on iTunes or Amazon)

Feb 27, 2022 • 47min
David McHutchon: An Independent Scotland Should Be Out of the UK, EU, & NATO
David McHutchon is the leader of the newly founded Scottish political party Restore Scotland, whose aims include: Scottish independence, liberty of the individual, the sanctity of human life, and the wellbeing of the people of Scotland. He gives us a crash course on Scottish history, how the Scottish National Party (SNP) blew the 2014 referendum on independence, how all current political parties have become indistinguishable from each other, and how the government is actively seeking to restrict civil liberties. He discusses the dual struggle of Scotland becoming free from Britain as well as staying out of the EU and NATO. He discusses globalism and how elites are attempting to condition the population to accept absurdities and the jackboot. He emphasizes the importance of action. We also talk Kazakhstan, Ukraine, Russia, and apocalyptic geopolitics.
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Geopolitics & Empire · David McHutchon: An Independent Scotland Should Be Out of the UK, EU, & NATO #265
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Restore Scotland https://restorescotland.org
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About Restore Scotland
Restore Scotland is a Scottish political party, which was founded in 2020 on the 700th anniversary of the signing of the Declaration of Arbroath. The party stands for the independence of Scotland; the liberty of the individual; the value and the autonomy of the family; the sanctity of human life; and, the health and wellbeing of the people of Scotland.
*Podcast intro music is from the song “The Queens Jig” by “Musicke & Mirth” from their album “Music for Two Lyra Viols”: http://musicke-mirth.de/en/recordings.html (available on iTunes or Amazon)

Feb 24, 2022 • 43min
Alexandra Marshall: Russia & China Are Happy to Let Davos Destroy the West
Alexandra Marshall gives us an update on how The Great Reset is faring in Australia, where it is struggling to keep its narrative alive as people are increasingly refusing to follow health orders. The biggest problem Covid has revealed is the shift in Western democracies to embracing collectivist thought. Australia is on the verge of passing the WEF’s Digital ID legislation which is an extension of the Covid surveillance system and is digital fascism. Russia and China are not pets of the WEF and are happy to let Klaus & Co. destroy the West with their program. China is determined to be the world’s superpower, meanwhile Russia wants to let Beijing fight the West to weaken both. Well-meaning conservatives misunderstand what Putin’s Russia actually is. She’s hopeful we can recover from the damage done by Davos.
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Geopolitics & Empire · Alexandra Marshall: Russia & China Are Happy to Let Davos Destroy the West #264
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Show Notes
The greater good – or a grander evil? https://www.spectator.com.au/2022/02/the-greater-good-or-a-grander-evil
Did Australia buy tanks to protect Taiwan? https://www.spectator.com.au/2022/01/did-australia-buy-tanks-to-protect-taiwan
Russia is empire-building while Australia sleeps https://www.spectator.com.au/2022/01/russia-is-empire-building-while-australia-sleeps
Websites
Elly Melly https://ellymelly.home.blog
Spectator Australia https://www.spectator.com.au
Twitter https://twitter.com/ellymelly
Good Sauce https://goodsauce.news/author/alexandra-marshall
The Vegas Take https://www.thevegastake.com
Penthouse https://www.penthouse.com.au
About Alexandra Marshall
Alexandra Marshall (@ellymelly on social media) is the host of “Curtain Call”, a Good Sauce show exploring the leading personalities in the culture war. She writes on liberty, philosophy and geopolitics. You can find her on Twitter or read her articles over at her blog.
Elly is also an AI database designer for the retail industry, contributor to multiple online journals and a Young Ambassador with Australians for Constitutional Monarchy.
*Podcast intro music is from the song “The Queens Jig” by “Musicke & Mirth” from their album “Music for Two Lyra Viols”: http://musicke-mirth.de/en/recordings.html (available on iTunes or Amazon)

Feb 21, 2022 • 1h 7min
Johnny Vedmore: Every Position of Power Has Been Taken Over by WEF & Their Global Leaders
Johnny Vedmore discusses how he feels one phase of COVID1984 is coming to an end and more people are beginning to question things. He gives us a deep dive on Cobra Commander Klaus Schwab and the Malthusian eugenics of Davos and the Club of Rome. WEF has run Britain for the last 20 years. The Young Global Leaders have taken over every single position of power. We’re late to the party, we’re done, we have let them run us through. He gives his take on the nature of the pandemic, the Wellcome Trust, and believes intelligence agencies are really running the show, that there are no more remaining independent actors (e.g. multipolar world). A lot of people he talks to think the endgame is something like a biblical apocalypse.
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Geopolitics & Empire · Johnny Vedmore: Every Position of Power Has Been Taken Over by WEF & Their Global Leaders #263
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The Wellcome Five – The Proximal Origin of Covid Control https://johnnyvedmore.com/2022/02/08/the-wellcome-5
Schwab Family Values https://unlimitedhangout.com/2021/02/investigative-reports/schwab-family-values
Websites
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Fungi Monkey https://www.fungimonkey.com
Twitter https://twitter.com/JohnnyVedmore
Unlimited Hangout https://unlimitedhangout.com
About Johnny Vedmore
Johnny Vedmore is a completely independent investigative journalist and musician from Cardiff, Wales. His work aims to expose the powerful people who are overlooked by other journalists and bring new information to his readers. If you require help, or have a tip for Johnny, then get in touch via johnnyvedmore.com or by reaching out to johnnyvedmore@gmail.com
*Podcast intro music is from the song “The Queens Jig” by “Musicke & Mirth” from their album “Music for Two Lyra Viols”: http://musicke-mirth.de/en/recordings.html (available on iTunes or Amazon)

Feb 20, 2022 • 48min
Cory Morningstar: This is a Complete Descent Into Global Fascism
Cory Morningstar gives us a report from the front lines of the Great Reset in Canada. Everything the media says is a lie and you can forget about the whole left-right paradigm, this is a global class war and descent into fascism. Covid has been a huge catalyst and cover to unroll this huge reset of the global economic system, a project of Prince Charles. The British Commonwealth has just partnered with WHO to vaccinate the entire planet by July 2022 and is working with the World Bank in a huge campaign to get Digital Identity to everyone by 2030. The vaccine is a portal to the Digital ID. We’re going into global governance and the Digital ID is the umbilical cord to the Smart City. The conduit to the 4IR is your smartphone, for now. The eugenicist aspect of the program is simply a business decision (e.g. pension crisis). What you can access will be dependent on your level of compliance. Freedom, health, and your immune system will become a service or subscription.
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Geopolitics & Empire · Cory Morningstar: This is a Complete Descent Into Global Fascism #262
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About Cory Morningstar
Cory Morningstar is an independent investigative journalist, writer and environmental activist, focusing on global ecological collapse and political analysis of the non-profit industrial complex. She resides in Canada. Her recent writings can be found on Wrong Kind of Green, The Art of Annihilation, and Counterpunch. Her writing has also been published by Bolivia Rising and Cambio, the official newspaper of the Plurinational State of Bolivia.
*Podcast intro music is from the song “The Queens Jig” by “Musicke & Mirth” from their album “Music for Two Lyra Viols”: http://musicke-mirth.de/en/recordings.html (available on iTunes or Amazon)

Feb 18, 2022 • 32min
Daniel McAdams: What We’re Seeing in Ukraine is the Tail End of U.S. Empire
Daniel McAdams returns to discuss the Ukraine crisis. Media coverage of the situation is absolutely abysmal and cartoonish, taking the role of stenographers for the intelligence community. The current crisis was precipitated by U.S. interventionism in the form of the 2014 Orange color revolution. Russia has a right to be concerned about existential issues and having Ukraine in NATO would objectively raise a serious concern for Moscow, especially in light of an openly hostile West. Blinken did his best Colin Powell presentation at the UN (e.g. Iraq WMDs) and there is a huge danger a false flag could lead to hostilities. This could be the beginning of the end for NATO. We’re seeing the tail end of the U.S. Empire.
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Geopolitics & Empire · Daniel McAdams: What We’re Seeing in Ukraine is the Tail End of U.S. Empire #261
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TRANSCRIPT
Geopolitics & Empire:
The Geopolitics & Empire Podcast is joined once again by Daniel McAdams, who is the Executive Director of the Ron Paul Institute for Peace and Prosperity. We’ll be talking foreign policy in US, Russia, Ukraine, World War III. It’s been about two years since we last spoke, how is the new normal life in Texas?
Daniel McAdams:
Well, thanks again for having me, by the way, it’s great to be back on your great program. And Texas, we had a few bad months but the governor here looked over to Florida and realized that he actually could find a little bit of courage and so it’s basically been normal here for quite a long time. There are certainly some messages of the old regime with masks and people being nervous but basically you wouldn’t notice anything here, I think, these days.
Geopolitics & Empire:
Yeah, I’ve escaped to Mexico. I know a lot of people are escaping to Mexico but I do have a plan B or C that I’ve thought about going back to the US and the only places that I would go would be somewhere like Texas or Florida or similar such states. So to talk about Ukraine and Russia, so where was the invasion of Ukraine by Russia?
Daniel McAdams:
Well, it hasn’t happened as it was scheduled. In fact, somebody I think it was Garland Nixon posted a funny little tweet saying that, “Now the US is going to sanction Russia for not invading on the right schedule.” So that may well be what happens, it hasn’t invaded on their schedule. In fact, off camera, we were talking about a tweet that you retweeted from a guy I studied when I was in grad school, Edward Luttwak, who made the great point that the US intelligence community is claiming that Russia is about to have a full scale invasion of not just Eastern Ukraine but Ukraine and Kiev. And he said that the reckless gambling would go against the entire history of Putin’s behavior that we’ve seen so far and he says, “I’m not buying it.” So when someone of his stature, who’s not in anyone’s real camp says something like that, I think it’s time to listen to him. And that was a welcome tweet, I think.
Geopolitics & Empire:
Yeah, I’ve also studied Luttwak in graduate school and that’s someone to take his opinion. The situation in Ukraine is complicated and there are a lot of variables at play, the ones that stick out for me include the existential threat posed to Russia of Ukraine joining NATO, putting in their nuclear missiles and stationing them. And that’s a clear red line for Russia. Then we have energy and pipeline games and there’s a whole host of issues, there are irredentist issues regarding the breakaway republics. For you, what are some key geopolitical points here to understand that are driving the Ukraine crisis?
Daniel McAdams:
Well, there’re a couple of very important things I think, and most people paying attention will recognize the first, which is the media once again is absolutely abysmal. The mainstream media in the US and most of Europe is abysmal. It’s essentially the US media is taking the role of stenographers from the intelligence community, they’re not checking anything that’s reported, they’re doing the exact same things they did in the run up to war with Iraq, which is just repeating the most outlandish statements of people in the administration and in the think tank world in DC. So they’ve done an absolutely abysmal job and in fact Matt Taibbi has a good piece on his Substack today, just blasting the media for its behavior, for its performance.
So I think that’s important but the one thing that we try to talk about on the Ron Paul Liberty Report every day, which is something that the media would never tell you. And that is that the current crisis in Ukraine, Russia, Eastern Ukraine was precipitated by US interventionism. They don’t want to admit this, they don’t want to talk about it but as the kids say, “We’ve got the receipts.” We’ve got the video of then Assistant Secretary of State, Victoria Nuland in the middle of the Maidan Square, handing out food to people who were intent on overthrowing the government.
And on this is a point I made once on the Liberty Report, imagine if January 6th in America really was an insurrection and not just some goofy guys with Buffalo horns on their heads. Imagine it really was an insurrection and a senior Russian government official was down there, handing out food, egging them on and even as we know from the telephone call that was intercepted, even deciding who would run America after the insurrectionists were successful. Imagine how Americans would react to that? Yet this is exactly what happened in Ukraine in 2014 and you just never hear about it.
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Geopolitics & Empire:
Yeah, that’s a key point. The Orange Color Revolution, I wrote my thesis on color revolutions back in Geneva. And what about the issue of Ukraine becoming a member of NATO? I think I heard some of Ukrainian officials backpedaling saying they might rethink that. Because that would create, I’ve heard, a first strike capability for the US where Russia wouldn’t be able to defend itself because at that point, NATO and the West could virtually take out all of Russia’s military installations and they’d have no way to defend themselves. That’s one thing I think about, what are some other key issues regarding Ukraine, NATO, US and Russia?
Daniel McAdams:
Well, the funny thing about Washington’s foreign-policy establishment, aside from them being virtually wrong at every single turn, is the fact that in their mind, the only country that has a right to have security interests, to be concerned about existential issues, as you mentioned earlier, is the United States, no one else’s security matters at all except for ours. And that would be fine but you have to realize that other countries face the same issues and as you point out, having Ukraine in NATO would raise objectively a very serious security concern for Russia. Particularly considering the [belacos 00:07:26] statements coming out of Washington for how long, since the reset back under Hilary Clinton, I would say since the end of the Cold War. So you have an openly hostile west denying any kind of validity to Russia security concerns, it’s a recipe for disaster.
As far as Ukraine joining NATO. Well, technically that shouldn’t be allowed according to NATO’s charter because the country has a border of dispute with Russia in the Crimea issue. And even you might say in Donbas, there is a disputed border in that area. So technically they shouldn’t be eligible for NATO membership anyway. But of course, who follows rules anymore? But the person you mentioned, that was the Ukrainian Ambassador to the UK and he did float that idea out there, “Maybe we can back off a little bit from NATO.” And he was immediately slammed down and Zelenskyy, the president now was asked, I think it was today, about NATO and he said, “We have to guarantee our security and NATO is that guarantee.” So there’s no official back down but there certainly is something that, as we can tell at least, is on the minds of people.
Geopolitics & Empire:
And I want to go back to what you mentioned about the media. And for the people who understand, it’s a total repeat of Saddam Hussein and Colin Powell and weapons of mass destruction. But for me, things just seem to have gone to a further extreme where it’s cartoonish really, the level of the propaganda from the Western side. I mean, your thoughts on the cartoonishness of all of these allegations, as well as there’s censorship that we’re dealing with?
Daniel McAdams:
That’s a perfect term, cartoonish. I remember very well because I was working for Dr. Paul on Capitol Hill as we were moving toward the Iraq war. And I remember how devastating it was for our side when Colin Powell went to the UN and made his presentation. And it wasn’t devastating because his presentation was so convincing because it wasn’t, we knew at the time that it was garbage. It was devastating for us because of his stature, he’s perceived as a serious thinker, as someone with a lot of moral integrity. Well, what we saw on Thursday, which is when Secretary of State Tony Blinken went to the UN Security Council and did his best Colin Powell presentation was exactly, as you say, cartoonish, it was absurd, the points he made were laughable and his outline of how Russia will attack Ukraine was laughable.
And at the very end, the cherry on top of his ridiculous performance was that, “Well, Russia may not invade after all and if they don’t, we’ll be glad that they followed our guidelines and reversed their course.” So basically wanting to take political credit for something that the Russians have said all along they have no intention of doing. It’s like if I keep claiming you’re going to shoot me and you say, “I’m not going to shoot you,” and you end up not shooting me and you’re saying, “Well, I’m certainly go glad you changed course on that shooting me thing.”
Geopolitics & Empire:
Yeah. And since you brought up Blinken, I had that question as well. So he was there at the UN accusing Russia and every day they’re saying they’re about to carry out a false flag operation. That’s one point where for the longest time anyone talking about false flag is a conspiracy theorist so I guess now Blinken and Washington, the government are conspiracy theorists. And as well, I was reading in Politico, the NATO Secretary General, Jens Stoltenberg, he as well was accusing Russia of false flag operations. And if we talk about false flags, I would think it would come first from Kiev or Washington, they’re the ones who most carry out these kinds of things. The last time was the chemical provocations in Syria, those were false flags by the West. And so there are some reports that a kindergarten was shelled today by the Ukrainian side, possibly, which may have been a false flag attempt. What are your thoughts on this false flag talk and whether someone will actually try to stage a false flag?
Daniel McAdams:
I think it’s a very important and very concerning point. And we’ve said all along, “Russia is not going to invade Ukraine. Russia does not want to take Kiev. It doesn’t want to have the responsibility of this basket case of a country.” But that doesn’t mean that Russia will not abide by its very clearly stated position that we will intervene in Donbas if Kiev starts attacking Russian citizens of which there are, some say, as many as 750,000 Russian passport holders living in that part of Eastern Ukraine and Russia has been very clear, “We will protect these people.” And that’s why I am still very concerned because anything could happen. The shelling of a kindergarten is just the kind of a thing that can raise tensions to a high level.
Now there has been shelling going on since 2015 on both sides of this. And it does happen, there has been an uptick lately, the US has pulled its OSCE monitors out of the area, I think other Western countries have done the same. So there’s a real danger here and it happened remember in, was it in Iraq? And in Kosovo. There’s a danger when you pull out the monitors, even that there may be one or two honest ones that might be able to say, “No, those shells came from the Ukrainian side, it wasn’t from the pro-Russia side.” There is a huge danger and I see an uptick right now in this, all it’ll take is a few more kindergartens and maybe a hospital or two to be shelled by Russia that you’ll see some action. So definitely action is very possible but not in the way the US is predicting.
Geopolitics & Empire:
I may be mistaken, I’m not sure if it was my Croatian President Milanović or others who have said that this Ukraine fiasco is nothing more than a wagging of the dog by the Biden administration to distract from domestic problems in America. What are your thoughts there?
Daniel McAdams:
In fact, I think there was an MEP from Croatia that just made a great statement about that. In fact, I just noticed it on Twitter, he made an excellent statement saying that exact same thing. And even President Zeman from the Czech Republic had an interview that came out today where he was talking about, “This is the Iraq war all over again. The US CIA continually lies us into war.” And this is a NATO partner, the president of a NATO partner country saying, “These guys are full of crap. They’re doing nothing but lying to us and they continuously lie.”
Geopolitics & Empire:
I also had a question since I mentioned Biden. We’ve heard in the past, Joe Biden, I think when he was at the CFR talking about how he had a deal with the Ukrainian president and if he didn’t do what he wanted, he would withhold funds, 5 million or something. And then we have the issues with Hunter Biden connection in corruption in Ukraine. And so what effect do you think the Hunter Biden and Joe Biden dealings in corruption have on the current Ukraine crisis?
Daniel McAdams:
Yeah, I think there’s a lot there and I love to talk about it in the US media. But it was a $1 billion loan guarantee that was on the table when Joe Biden said, “You have to fire this chief prosecutor or you don’t get the money.” And apparently what the chief prosecutor was doing was investigating his own son, Hunter Biden’s nefarious activities in Ukraine. He is a well known oil and gas expert, for 50,000 a month, he was being paid. But I think there is a lot of corruption and I think probably Biden is afraid of having some of this get out. I don’t know to what extent it drives it, I think certainly to a very large extent what drives the current conflict is the fact that you have the holdovers from the Obama administration, which was behind the 2014 coup, they’re the ones in the driver’s seat right now.
I mean, anyone who thinks of Biden himself is really in the driver’s seat, I don’t know about that. I mean, I’ve seen the guy talk and I don’t know, he’s not even in the passenger seat, right? He’s in the backseat. You have people like Jake Sullivan who is increasingly coming under suspicion for his role in the fake Russiagate, spying on Candidate Trump and then President Trump affair. These people are deeply corrupt and deeply compromised people but they are so absolutely full of themselves and certain of their rights, so full of hubris, that is a really dangerous combination.
Geopolitics & Empire:
Yeah. You mentioned NATO and I caught the news today or yesterday, some European MEP, I think from some Nordic country, Heidi something, she was discussing and promoting the idea of opening NATO membership to all of the European member states now. How do you think these events will affect the EU and NATO? Some people are talking about this splitting NATO and Europe, maybe it will strengthen, maybe it will push Europe towards the trajectory of a EU army. I mean, what are your thoughts on NATO and EU at this stage?
Daniel McAdams:
Well, someone I respect very much is Colonel Doug MacGregor, he’s an old friend of mine and he’s got a very strong view about this. So he views this as the beginning of the end of NATO. He feels that there is a realization now when you see what objectively is true, a lot of Russian forces on the move, whether they were all involved in military exercises or whether it was a show of force or whether some combination of the two. Very clearly Colonel MacGregor said on Sky News Australia, that basically the Russians have been able to control the airspace from the Gulf of Finland to the Black Sea. And his view, and I tend toward listening certainly to what he says, is that Germany is going to start realizing that this Eurasia sphere is an area that the Americans are not capable of protecting them in.
They will not have the security guaranteed by the US that they may have had in the past and this is a great example. But if Putin had decided, “We’re going in, we’re taking the whole place.” There is literally nothing the United States could have done to stop it. We had, as the Colonel put out, some light infantry forces and he called it, “Almost a joke.” So there is going to be a realization among serious European countries, and I don’t mean the Baltics certainly because they’re not serious, that NATO is a paper tiger, it’s incapable of doing what it was actually conceived to do, which is to protect Europe from then Soviet expansionism. It’s a paper tiger and I do hope he’s right in this, he sees the beginning of the end of NATO in this fiasco we’re witnessing now.
Geopolitics & Empire:
Yeah, it’s funny you mentioned paper tiger. Well, I was going to ask if you would agree that many of my past guests, Patrick Armstrong, who I interviewed, Canadian former defense, well, he worked in defense policy. He used the term, when I talk with him about NATO, paper pussycat or paper tiger. And I have interviewed Russian military expert Andrei Martyanov and so many others that come to the consensus that Russia militarily has the upper hand, in a conventional war Russia wins hands down against NATO or the West in Europe, especially with the assistance from China. And so would you agree?
Daniel McAdams:
Well, it’s their backyard just as if we went to war with Mexico that was backed by Paraguay or something. I mean, it’s their back door, it’s their backyard, it’s the area they care about most. And when you’re talking about… The US military is the most expensive on the planet, we spend an enormous amount of money but the money we spend in the military is not going predominantly toward readiness, predominantly toward having a strong fighting force or having the best weapons.
The enormous amount of money that the United States spends on its military is toward extremely expensive, extremely high-tech weapons systems that do not work, F-35 and so on and so on and so on, go down the line. The military industrial complex gets rich off of these very expensive, very highly technical pieces of military work. And my old friend, Chuck Spinney, who’s been in his career in the Pentagon studying this and he still writes a lot about procurement and how it leads toward the US having a weaker rather than a stronger military. Certainly someone to talk with about this. But we have a very large and expensive military but it’s not the kind of military we need, certainly not to protect this country.
Geopolitics & Empire:
Yeah, it’s interesting. I think Finland just bought 64 F-35s.
Daniel McAdams:
Good luck with that. Have fun. Someone made the joke because one of them went off of a carrier a couple weeks ago and someone said, “They have more success as a submarine than as a fighter jet right now.”
Geopolitics & Empire:
Yeah. And my past guest Martyanov discusses how the Russian, I think SU-35 they’re called, they’re much better than F-35s. I read today also that Lukashenko just said that he and Putin or Russia and Belarus are discussing what to do with the breakaway republics of Donetsk and Lugansk. What do you think is going to happen there? Is that just going to be an issue that festers for a while or that it might be incorporated into Russia?
Daniel McAdams:
Well, all of the brilliant Russia watchers inside the US Beltway will disagree but the fact of the matter is, if you look at Putin’s behavior objectively as head of Russia, he’s not a gambler, he’s not a risk taker. In fact, he gets a lot of flack from people in Russia because he isn’t. And the exact issue you mentioned, the recognition of these two republics, that was put forth by the Communist Party, which is the largest opposition party in Russia. They are pushing him, some of the MPs from his own party are pushing him to be more radical but he’s always been a very cautious leader.
And what I think is that if he, and this is speculation, but from everything that I’ve seen, that is his Ace card and I don’t think he wants to play it now, I don’t think it’s a card that needs to be played, I think he can start raising… If we can dial this down some, I think the issue that will be raised and Blinken made the issue today, of course he lied about it at the UN Security Council, but the issue of the Minsk accords. If we bring this to the table, which of course provided for a level of autonomy for the breakaway republics, if we return to a Minsk with Ukraine acting in better faith than they have in the past, I think for Putin that is far preferable than basically playing that final Ace or even call it a nuclear option, not technically, not literally but it would be that. So I don’t think it’s a time that he’s going to play it right now, I could be wrong.
Geopolitics & Empire:
It’s not always easy for me to come up with the best questions or all the necessary questions. So before I continue, what other issues are important for you when we’re talking about Ukraine, US, Russia and the wider region, China even?
Daniel McAdams:
I just think it’s how far things have gone in the Western media. I watch these people in the reporting and it is so bad, it is so brainless. And this goes from Fox News on the right to MSNBC on the left. I mean, all of these stations, all of these outlets are united in this very ignorant pro-war stance. All of the experts in DC are always wrong all the time and when you have an empire that’s based on lies, it’s inherently weak, it’s inherently subject to implosion. And I think we’re seeing the tail land of the US empire. I made a comment on our show the other day, after World War II, the British didn’t realize at first that their empire was gone, they still thought they ruled the world and then they woke up and realized, “Oh, guess what? We don’t have the power we thought.” And that’s, I think, how it’s going to happen with the US. I think it is essentially over, they just don’t realize it yet because they all still believe all the BS and all the lies that they’re telling each other.
Geopolitics & Empire:
Well, I mean, since you mentioned that, I’d agree with you. One of the reasons I left the US 15 years ago, for many reasons, but it was also because I saw this decline. And there are different versions, people think it’s going to be some big collapse or that’ll just be like a slow fart. So what are your thoughts on the implications of the collapse? We could see people talk about things as extreme as the Civil War and disintegration in that sense or will it just be like what happened in Britain’s case where things just slowly decline?
Daniel McAdams:
Well, I think again, a lot of the so called foreign policy analysts and Russia experts, they tend to look at the world through a very small tunnel and they tend to talk to each other in an echo chamber. But I think if you step back and you look at the larger picture, which of course your podcast is dedicated to geopolitics, I think in the US the end will be precipitated not by a military defeat necessarily but by a defeat that comes at the hands of a broken economy, of a Federal Reserve that has printed money figuratively and literally to the trillions and trillions and trillions to the point where the US can no longer sustain.
And we’re already seeing the squeeze on the middle class with inflation, the inflation tax is the most evil tax because certainly it hurts the poor and the middle class more than it hurts the wealthy. If steak goes up by three bucks or if a hamburger goes up by a buck, a pound is not going to hurt Jeff Bezos but it’s going to hurt the guy who’s working for a living. This is where it ends, it ends with the Fed because the Fed created this massive bubble, the Fed created the military bubble, we wouldn’t be able to spend a trillion dollars a year on this military machine if it wasn’t from funny money produced by the Fed. So it all comes down to economics, it will simply implode on the weight of its own economic contradictions.
Geopolitics & Empire:
I would totally agree with that. The inflation we’re seeing, in my lifetime I haven’t seen anything compared to what we’re seeing now and it’s just going to get really bad. And that’s actually one of the things that prevents me from coming back to the US is this increasing inflation and high cost of living where here in Mexico, it’s much more manageable. Do you think at some point, by hook or by crook, by some stupid mistake or even a false flag, the West may end up in a real serious military conflict configuration with Russia, perhaps some of its allies and the East? And whether the danger of it being a localized proxy war in Europe or even something bigger that could lead to escalating to the nuclear threshold or some type of global war?
Daniel McAdams:
Well, I think that’s always possible but I do think that the US knows very well, as we talked about just a few minutes ago, this is a war it cannot win, it doesn’t have the ability to get troops and to get equipment there in time to do what it needs to do. This is a war it can’t win and that’s why even President Biden, for all of his problems and I don’t know how extensive they are but we can probably guess, he has even said, “I’m not sending troops to Ukraine,” meaning I’m not getting involved militarily. He’s going to maybe add some more sanctions or something. The US knows that there is no military option with Russia over Ukraine so what’s left is just trash talking and harsh rhetoric and I think the Russians have seen through it.
I forget which official it was, but there was a Russian official that recently said, “We don’t give an S-H-I-T about your sanctions.” And I think that’s probably the mood, they’re ready to call the bluff and it is a big bluff. So I think there is a risk, there’s always a risk of error. You talk about grad school and international relations, you probably read Graham Ellison who did a great analysis of the Cuban Missile Crisis. There are mistakes that can be made, especially when you’re mirror imaging your own values onto that of your adversary and when you’re talking in echo chamber. But I think in a rational sense, the US understands that this is an impossibility. We lost in Afghanistan after 20 years so I don’t know that it’s time to start taking on a Russia and a Russia that at least in terms of rhetoric is being backed by China right now.
Geopolitics & Empire:
Yeah. And speaking of China, in terms of world order, where do we go from here? Is the multipolar world emerging now, Russia and China and a new system coming about? What are your thoughts on where we go from here?
Daniel McAdams:
Well, ironically and part partially, I think that these people are just so stupid. The people in charge in the US are just so stupid. But then I have to wonder, “Are they stupid or are they evil or what combination?” Because everything that the US claims it’s trying to prevent, it’s actually promoting. If the US wants to undermine China, the last thing you do is push China and Russia into each other’s arms, which is what it’s doing. And the same is true with Iran, we have tight sanctions all around Iran and so China says, “Hey, we’ll buy some of your oil. Let’s get together, let’s have some trade.” So everything that the US claims, that these brilliant experts claim they’re trying to prevent, they’re actually promoting. So again, stupidity, evil, a combination, who knows?
Geopolitics & Empire:
All right. Do you have any final thought for us then?
Daniel McAdams:
Well, I appreciate the opportunity to talk about this, I think it’s a very serious situation. My concern is that we are being led by idiots, people that are full of themselves, people who make a lot of money off of conflict, who don’t care about the rest of America. We’re tarnished as being pro-Russia when in fact, the people who want to avoid a potentially life threatening for the entire planet nuclear war, are pro-life, are pro-American, it’s pro-American to not want to have a massive trillion dollar military empire protecting everyone else’s borders but our own. So with that, thank you very much for the opportunity to talk to your listeners and I appreciate the time.
Geopolitics & Empire:
All right. And just one more note, apart from Ronpaulinstitute.org, is there any other website or project that we should know about?
Daniel McAdams:
Yeah. Monday through Friday at noon Eastern Time, we do a live Ron Paul Liberty Report on YouTube and you can find it just by typing in Ron Paul Liberty Report. Every day, Monday through Friday, Friday is economics, Monday through Thursday are everything else. So we appreciate anyone who wants to come in and watch and subscribe to our channel.
Geopolitics & Empire:
Yeah. And also I would recommend checking them out on Odysee because YouTube is censoring, I just got another strike after being released yesterday. So I can’t post for a week and I’ve got three months probation. And then again, everyone subscribe to Ron Paul Institute on Twitter, their newsletter, I think I just subscribed to your email list and you’re pending great analysis through the newsletter. And again, thank you for returning to Geopolitics & Empire.
Daniel McAdams:
Thank you.
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Feb 17, 2022 • 53min
Michael Rectenwald: Woke Capitalism Will Destroy Businesses Not Compliant With Great Reset
Michael Rectenwald returns to discuss the ESG Index or “woke capitalism” as a selection mechanism or demarcation device to delineate which businesses are onboard with The Great Reset and punish those who are not compliant. It is effectively a Social Credit System for companies, feeding investments toward the compliant while starving dissident firms, competition, and industries. This sets up the possibility for doing to companies what is being done to individuals in Canada right now, de-banking them and freezing their assets, and is totalitarian in nature. This global government combines the worst of both systems (capitalism and communism). We discuss the WEF Young Global Leaders program, the threat posed by the people who don’t see COVID1984 for what it is, resistance, and parallel structures.
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TRANSCRIPT
Geopolitics & Empire:
Are you ready to get rekt? Because the Rectenwald returns to Geopolitics & Empire. Michael Rectenwald is former NYU professor and author of 11 books including Google Archipelago: The Digital Gulag and the Simulation of Freedom. You best get this book and read it because judging by events in Canada, the hunger games have officially commenced and we are now in thick of the Google Archipelago where you can have your bank account frozen for donating money to truckers. Michael, how are you doing? And how are you enjoying the Google Archipelago?
Michael Rectenwald:
I’m hanging in there very well. It’s great to be back. So yeah, I’m looking forward to our talk.
Geopolitics & Empire:
Yeah. I think you were ill for a while now and you recovered?
Michael Rectenwald:
Oh, yes. I had COVID and went in twice to the hospital. The first time was for COVID itself, but then really, I left the hospital and then the medications they gave me made me sicker than anything. I was given some anticoagulants that ended up causing me to have intestinal bleeding, which almost killed me. So the second time I went into the hospital, I was under respiratory failure. I couldn’t breathe at all. So they had to put me on a ventilator. I was completely unconscious.
They put me on a ventilator and everybody that knew me thought this is a 50-50 chance to survive once you’re on the ventilator. I was on that for three days, but I didn’t know that. I woke up and I was in the ICU and just said, “Well, how long have I been here?” And they said, “Three days.” I was like, “What? I had lost them completely.” So I was in 12 days in the ICU in a couple more days in the regular hospital bed. And oh boy, I couldn’t walk when I got out. I couldn’t do anything. I mean, I was so weak. I lost 50 pounds. It was intense.
Geopolitics & Empire:
Yeah. I was shocked when I saw you posting that on Facebook and Twitter and your social media. I was like I couldn’t believe it, but glad that you recovered.
Michael Rectenwald:
Thank you.
Geopolitics & Empire:
In our previous interview, I think it was eight, nine months ago, which people should go back and watch, you laid the foundation for the great reset, Google Marxism, as you call it. This one world monopoly of government or global socialism.
Today, will be maybe a bit more of like a graduate level course where we dig deeper into more of the technical aspect such as the Environmental, Social and Governance Index, ESG, which is a Chinese style, social credit score for rating corporations. Your latest piece on mises.org details this. Incredibly, there are still many people who have no idea what ESG means that they gave me blank faces. And even still some who don’t understand the social credit system. So maybe we can start with the ESG.
Michael Rectenwald:
Yeah. So the ESG, the Environmental, Social, and Governance Index is an index on the stock exchanges, of course. And it is a means by which corporations are rated along these criteria. So environmental of course has to do with their carbon footprint and their sustainability practices. Social really comes down to social justice precepts. How well are they abiding by social justice precepts in terms of how many… What’s the constitution identity wise of their board members of their management, of their staff, and so on and so forth.
So it’s kind of like the diversity, equity, and inclusion element. And then governance really refers to what’s their corporate governance like but also how well do they interact with the state? How well do they abide by state law and policy? So what it’s doing is I’ve been reading some people. Even a Marxist. I just read a Marxist who argues that wokeness in effect is a means for differentiating between the elite and the others.
It’s a selection mechanism. Similarly, the ESG, which is wokeness in capitalism, this is woke capitalism is a mechanism by which you differentiate between woke corporations and non-woke. It’s a selection mechanism. It’s a demarcation device in order to separate out the non-compliant from the compliant. And then it effectively feeds investments toward the compliant and away from the non-compliant. As I see it, it’s a way of starving off competition, starving off industries and starving off players within industries who are non-abiding, who are not compliant with the agenda.
In my way of thinking, it establishes kind of a woke cartel or a set of woke cartels. I mean, if you look at the major investment asset managers, all of them are totally down with this. All 10 of the top 10, especially BlackRock, and Vanguard, and State Street and UBS, they’re completely down with this. I mean, Larry Fink of BlackRock puts out these letters every year. He put one on in January 18th. And it’s basically, he throws down the stakeholder or the ESG gauntlet. If you do not abide by these precepts, you will be starved out of capital. You will not survive. Competitors will come and replace you.
He puts it exactly like that. You’ll be replaced. So it’s a kind of cancellation. Just as in the social realm, individuals are canceled. They’re canceling corporations in the same way. And interestingly, they’re differentially diverting funds to China, Chinese companies. So it’s a really unbelievable development. I was reading the UN. There’s a ton of UN programs that are all about this.
There’s the principles of banking, principles of asset management and principles of insurance. They have 4,700 investment firms, banks, and asset managers signed on to this. 4,700. And the World Economic Forum is a major player in pushing it. I’ve been looking into this for a while. I think that Klaus Schwab is actually the inventor of this idea of stakeholder capitalism, which is to benefit stakeholders as opposed to, or in addition to shareholders.
Stakeholder capitalism is the premise for the ESG. It’s the guiding principle for the ESG of which is the mechanism for enforcing stakeholder capitalism. It goes back to 1971 and Schwab’s first book, which title sort of eludes me, but it was published in ’71 when he founded the precursor to the World Economic Forum. He’s been pushing this stakeholder. He and the WEF have been pushing this stakeholder idea for decades.
So now it’s completely embedded and infiltrated. All corporate America and corporations broadly across the world, all the entire banking industry. So this is the premise that sets up the possibility for doing to companies what is being done to individuals in Canada right now, de-banking them, defunding them, freezing their assets. This is all part of the same campaign. It is wokeness writ large. And wokeness is not some sort of a funny, silly ideology that’s just for making fights on Twitter. This really a major demarcation device in order to separate the wheat from the chaff, the wheat being them. In their case, that’s how they think of it. The chaff being everybody who is not on board.
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Geopolitics & Empire:
The timing is interesting you mentioned where I’ve seen that as well, where Schwab came up with this in this ’70, ’71. The timing is interesting because some people say that our economic system, the Bretton Woods System from 1944 died because that’s when Nixon pulled gold away from the dollar. So some people say that’s when the Bretton Woods system died.
So it’s funny how he comes in at that moment. It’s like they were preparing the next economic system, which we’re now seeing go live. And what you just detailed sounds like classic totalitarianism. We’ve seen in the communist systems they’ve created the cultural revolutions, the communist class, the elite class, and then all of the rest who don’t comply are like the dissidents and off to the gulags or in the Nazi system, the Jews and gypsies and others were sent to ghettos. It’s just kind of like what you just detailed is you’re creating this two class society, this totalitarian in nature.
Michael Rectenwald:
Yes. It is totalitarianism, but there’s a few steps that you have to get to, to understand why it is totalitarian. And one of them is to realize that, first of all, they’re creating this stakeholder capitalism, which is Schwab’s brainchild, as far as I can tell, that his first book was the first place to introduce this idea. That stakeholders have to be served as well as stockholders. But it goes to the point that the governance of states are basically corporate entities in junction with states in order to enforce these precepts and to enforce this particular ideology that’s political through and through.
It’s a way of destroying opposition. It’s a way of destroying opposition. So this is why it’s totalitarian. It’s using a political mechanism in order to invade the economy, completely infiltrate the economy and make the economy utterly politicized. And that’s exactly what’s happening in Canada right now. Unbelievably, they’re seizing bank accounts. Not seizing, but freezing bank accounts in order to silence and destroy these protestors.
So this is a sign of things to come. And for those in the United States who think this wouldn’t happen here, if we had the same scenario going on here, which supposedly in the near future, we may with the truckers ready to go from, I think, Los Angeles to DC, then it’ll happen here as well. This is no question in my mind. These people are the same. Birds of the same feather. Both of them said that they admire dictatorships and dictatorships would be so much easier to run.
Of course, how much they admire China’s dictatorship. So Trudeau said that, Biden said it. They all say this. They’re on the same playbook. It’s unbelievable how much they’re on this playbook. And this is why I say it’s internationalist, because they’ve got all these players signed on to the same precepts, signed on to the same playbook. Basically, there’s regional elements of a global system really that’s what’s going on.
Geopolitics & Empire:
Yeah. I just had a brief comment there in what you brought up. For years, people like ourselves have been discussing all of this. I was looking back through my archives. Way back in 2015, I was talking to Katherine Albrecht on this coming dystopia. In 2019, I spoke with technocracy expert, Patrick Wood precisely about the social credit system. In 2020, I spoke with Jewish historian, Edwin Black on the algorithm ghetto. In 2021 with yourself, and been waiting for the moment to arrive at some future point.
You just kind of mentioned, it’s coming. We see now in Canada. I think it’s here and it’s global. It’s happening in China. It’s happening in other countries, as you mentioned in Canada. I think today, Italian prime minister, Mario Draghi suspended over half a million Italians over the age of 50 from their jobs, leaving them without salaries and declaring the unvaccinated are not part of society, which for me is also like the ESG, because they’re not complying with the social decrees of the state and so therefore their job is turned off. Their financial support is turned off.
Funny this weekend, I was talking to a low-level Mexican government functionary who was telling me to my face, “Yes, if the experts say vaccine passports aka social credit system are necessary, then I believe them.” And screw the people who don’t want to submit. Let them be unable to work or buy food or travel.” And also today fame economist, Richard Werner was tweeting that the ECB is getting ready to kill thousands of banks in the Eurozone in the coming five years.
So I feel like, “Wow, it’s starting now.” It’s just starting in Canada. It’s starting in the US and in other countries. It’s live now. I mean, what do you think?
Michael Rectenwald:
It’s live. I mean, it’s been in play in terms of setting it up for some time. I wrote about that in Google Archipelago. Now, this could maybe rub the wrong way with some viewers, but I’m going to say it anyway. I think it’s a leftist authoritarianism and the leftist totalitarianism. Now, that doesn’t mean all the left is on board with it. I’ve been reading some works from these so-called red pill Marxist who I find the frog Marxian element of the Twitterverse to be quite interesting.
They’re saying similar things that we are. They see what we’re talking about. They see the totalitarianism and they know it’s coming from the left generally. And they’re resisting it because these people don’t want what happened in the Soviet. They call this the Soviet Union in America, basically where we are in now in the United States. And that’s pretty apt to characterization.
Geopolitics & Empire:
Yeah. It’s funny. I had someone reach out wanting to be on the podcast who’s written a few books. A young person who’s a hardcore Marxist, but he’s a Marxist against this COVID dictatorial regime. So I’ll see if he’ll come on. But it’s interesting what you said. I wanted to go back kind of… We may have talked about this before, but I think it’s important. The structure of this global government. You said that Klaus calls it… And I saw him recently come out and say, “It’s a public, private partnership.”
Michael Rectenwald:
Partnership.
Geopolitics & Empire:
In one way, it’s like the worst of both worlds. Monopoly, capitalism. The worst parts of extreme capitalism where it’s total private monopoly power and communism where it’s state monopoly put together and we get something like a bio fascist technocracy. My recent guest who’s also a leftist, Kees van der Pijl described how long ago the UN had been co-opted by these special interests as well as the national governments including China and Russia are all on board. I mean, what are your latest thoughts on the mechanisms of this global government structure.
Michael Rectenwald:
It’s a corporate state hybrid, which is completely unaccountable to constituents in national governments. There’s no voting on any of this. The public, private partnership motif, if you will, in order to establish this. So you have corporations effectively involved in governance. Of Course, none of these people were elected. So this is completely undemocratic. They’re infiltrating all the states, if they’re not already completely embedded in them.
They’re dictating policy through state apparatuses. So they’re effectively part of the state. So yes, it’s the worth of… This is exactly what Giorgio Agamben said. This is the worst of both systems. It’s communist capitalism, if you will. That state run communism with capitalist corporations embedded in the state. This is the worst scenario you can imagine. It takes the worst of both worlds.
Let’s face it, I’ve never said anything is perfect and certainly pure capitalism wouldn’t be perfect, but it’s what I aspire to. And I think what we should aspire to, because it’s the only state of freedom, but it took the worst elements of capitalism that is this tendency towards monopoly and combined it with the worst elements of communism, state communism, which is state dictatorship over the economy and everything else. And put them into one. And this is what we’ve got.
It’s so hard for people to get a handle on what’s happening. You can’t categorize it very easily and I’ve been working on this for months, if not years, at this point in characterizing it and giving it a name. It’s economic fascism, strictly speaking. It’s what I call corporate socialism. That’s corporate oligarchies in conjunction with the state on top and actually existing socialism for everybody else inclusive of the repressive and oppressive and discriminatory, and jack boot elements of socialism on the ground.
Geopolitics & Empire:
I would respectfully correct some of our leftist listeners with their view of, let’s say capitalism and conservatism. They kind of paint it automatically as this right wing fascism. Myself as a conservative and believer in basic capitalism is that we are… In general, conservatives are against concentration of power of any kind, whether it’s financial or political.
Michael Rectenwald:
Right.
Geopolitics & Empire:
So we’re skeptical that power corrupts. Absolutely. We’re not in favor of financial capital concentrating this private capital concentrating nor for the state whereas leftists have this great faith in the state and they’re okay with having this power concentrated in public institutions which is a huge danger. Now, we’re seeing this run roughshod and some of them are doubling down. We’ve seen some of the extreme leftists are doubling down like there’s people like CJ Hopkins, who’s a more reasonable leftist, I think has been calling out other leftists such as Ben Norton who was writing for gray zone with Max Blumenthal and Max Blumenthal woke up to the COVID1984 and started talking about it. And Ben Norton had to leave because he’s still totally pro big pharma. It’s also confusing.
Michael Rectenwald:
Well, it’s very messed up, but here’s the one I understand why leftist have less of a problem with corporate monopolies than we think they would, because it has something very much in common with socialism. And that is to say what is socialism, if not a monopoly? So it’s a state monopoly over everything. So they actually end up favoring monopolies over other things. I mean, Jacobin, I think we talked about this before ran an article about how small business is overrated and really big corporations treat us much better. They give us benefits and they allow unionization and so forth.
So we shouldn’t be fighting for small business rights and so forth. So really they actually tip their hats to the corporate monopolies. So they have less problem with corporate monopolies. Also, they don’t understand that the state enables all this. If it weren’t for the state, there wouldn’t be this kind of concentration of power because that’s their enablers. That’s how monopolies gets established through state power.
In particular, I don’t agree with Marx that monopolization is an inevitable part of capitalism. It’s really inevitable when the state is involved which they are. They have become the state now at this point. That’s what’s happened.
Geopolitics & Empire:
I wanted to go back for a second to what we were talking about the ESGs. And maybe if you could just go a step further and detail viscerally more what this would look like for a company to be run out by ESG or even individuals. I guess we may have seen some examples now of Mike Lindell, the pillow guy. So banks are now un-banking him. And just the businesses in general opposing mandates being shut down here in Mexico now. In some parts of Mexico in the city where I live, businesses who are not complying with the vaccine certificates. Government agents like the Stasi are going out and somehow… I mean, it’s illegal, but somehow the government is just… They call it clausurado. Just shutting down the business.
They shut it down. They put a big sign that says shut down and you can’t do your business. People like me, I’ve been kicked off of Patreon. Others like Ryan Christian of the Last American Vagabond has been taken off of PayPal. I mean, how do you envision this actually looking like?
Michael Rectenwald:
Yeah, with the ESG. So we already see cancellation of companies based on political affiliation, like My Pillow or in the case of big tech firms. Of course, various firms being canceling and canceled themselves for that matter. But this is different. The ESG is different in that it institutionalizes this mechanism. It’s not just going out and targeting people in some sort of haphazard fashion, finding somebody who says something wrong and de-banking them and so forth.
It is an institutionalized mechanism for destroying companies. So through the ESG, what happens is you just have investments flowing away from these companies. And Fink has made this very clear. Basically he said… Here, let me just give you a quote. He says, “At the foundation of capitalism is the process of constant reinvention. How companies must continually evolve as the world around them changes. Or the risk of being replaced by new competitors.”
So corporations that are to be replaced are those that don’t abide by the ESG score. This is very, very much on the table. And it’s happening. It’s well underway.
Geopolitics & Empire:
Do you think it would still be possible if there was a company, maybe a smaller company, not a big corporation that was running its business well, didn’t have a lot of debt, had a lot of cash savings that they would be able to withstand the ESG?
Michael Rectenwald:
Yes. I think some companies will be able to withstand it. But with their doing is loading them up with a tremendous amount of bureaucratic red tape and reporting, which is extremely difficult. Now, the one way these companies like that could survive is by other people becoming aware of them and investing in them, frankly. In fact, there are non or anti ESG indexes out there, or funds already established. One of them is MAGA, but there are others. Now, one is called Bad because they in alcohol and gambling. And they’re not woke at all. And there’s others out there as well. There is these funds that you can invest in that are explicitly anti-woke.
This is not an investment show and I’m certainly not an advisor. So I don’t mean to do that. And I know that investments and companies is a very, shall we say, privileged position to be in the first place. But if you do have any money in the stock market, by chance, by virtue of a 401k or whatever, try to get it out of there and get it away from the ESG abiding and ESG reporting companies and managers certainly. But this is almost impossible for many state employees because BlackRock manages the investment portfolios of numerous states, their pension funds and all the seeds got enormous pension funds under its belt.
By the way, BlackRock only started in 1997. And in that short time, they have taken over and become the number one asset manager in the world controlling $10 trillion worth of assets.
Geopolitics & Empire:
So before we started the interview, you mentioned Ron Unz. So I recently interviewed Ron Unz and that interview got a bit of play. No Agenda. The Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak podcast actually played like 20 minutes of it and they were discussing it. So Ron Unz has this idea that COVID was a bio warfare attack from the west against the east. I think he laid out a great history of where we… It’s clear that we see Robert Kennedy has laid it out as well. The CIA is involved. The DARPA, CIA intelligence operation.
They’ve been simulating the pandemics for 20 years, but I don’t quite go on board with Unz’s idea that because we’re seeing China tacitly go along as well, and we’ve seen China’s involvement with it as well with their cooperation in the Wuhan and receiving funding from Fauci, EcoHealth Alliance and all of this stuff. So I mean what are your thoughts on some of these topics?
Michael Rectenwald:
Yeah. Well, let me premise it by saying that Ron Unz is a great guy and the Unz site is just fabulous for the diversity of opinion that he allows. And the writing is very, very good mostly. One thing that bothers me about certain sites like LewRockwell.com. I love the arguments, but some of the writing its just dreadful. But the only problem I have with Unz’s characterization of the origin story, and the way it developed is that it doesn’t take into account the unanimity of responses by states across the world to the pandemic so called.
It doesn’t take into account the fact that there’s obviously a coordinated campaign to impose these mandates and sanctions and the mask mandates, but also the travel mandates, the vaccine passport mandates, the green pass in Europe and so on and so forth.
It’s too coordinated to be just an accident like that in the sense that… I mean it’s possible indeed that the virus did start from a lab in the United States under the direction of the person who was responsible for bio weapons development in the United States and then it went to China. But why then did all of these countries act in the same way? How is it possible? So there, I think, you have to look at the way this has been coordinated.
I think the WEF is actually a pretty big player here because they actually trained a lot of these leaders in the young world leaders forum, or whatever they call it, this young world leaders group where they have brought all these people over there and basically trained them up on these principles of stakeholder capitalism and really state corporate fascism. And then the responses by all these states to the same issue have almost been identical, although staggered somewhat. And there is some difference in an application, but in principle, it’s all the same. So it’s possible that’s how the thing originated, but it doesn’t account for the total picture at all.
Geopolitics & Empire:
Yeah. I-
Michael Rectenwald:
And he sort of said, “Well, they all imitated each other.” I don’t think so. I think there’s too much coordination. It would be quick imitation. This was really lockstep really.
Geopolitics & Empire:
Yeah. I would totally agree with you and a lot of people are seeing. It’s an anomaly that you can’t dismiss and what we see Russia and China are going hard… China just announced they’re not doing away with their zero COVID policy where everything is locked down. I just spoke to someone who I know who speaks Mandarin who’s in touch with China. He was pointing out how in Xi’an they locked down the city of 13 million. And then people in China are starting to now… The youth in China are starting to get irritated and talking about rising up where in Xi’an when they locked people down, there was a guy having a heart attack and they wouldn’t like let him leave the lockdown area.
He couldn’t go to the hospital because it was a COVID hospital. I mean, they just let him die from a heart attack. I’ve been talking to Riley Waggaman who’s in Russia. He’s going to be contributing to Geopolitics & Empire articles, but he’s been demonstrating how Russia is full on implementing vaccine passports, QR codes like crazy. So you mentioned the young… What do you call them? The young WEF leaders.
Michael Rectenwald:
Young Global Leaders.
Geopolitics & Empire:
Yeah. So we’ve had people, shockingly, like even Viktor Orban of Hungary and Putin were leaders. And I think it’s important to point out that just because someone has attended a meeting or been the leader doesn’t necessarily mean they are with it. I attended a globalist institution, my university alma mater, but I’m not a globalist and we’ve seen JFK came out of the aristocracy, but then he turned.
Michael Rectenwald:
Yeah, that’s true. I don’t mean to afford a genetic fallacy here. I taught in a global liberal studies program that was training people to be NGO managers in effect. That’s really what it came down to. We know what the role of NGOs are. That’s true. It doesn’t mean much that necessarily, but it just so happens that all the major lock downers are… Put it this way. Not all the people that attended Young Global Leaders are part of this, but all the people that are part of it did attend the Young Global Leaders Forum. So Macron and Trudeau, and what’s her name? The New Zealand-
Geopolitics & Empire:
Jacinda Ardern.
Michael Rectenwald:
Yes, Ardern. All these people were involved. They were all brought over there and trained up. And Gates as well. It’s interesting how Gates when he talks about vaccines and what we need, he keeps putting, “We are going to do this and we’re going to do that.” Like he’s implicitly part of the ruling establishment and he’s doing the ruling. I mean, where did he get off? He’s not elected to anything. And yet he acts like he’s in charge.
Geopolitics & Empire:
Yeah. But also, I mean, given what we just said Putin was a leader and he is not stopping what’s being done in Russia.
Michael Rectenwald:
True.
Geopolitics & Empire:
So he’s implementing it. And even Viktor Orban who’s good on some issues, anti-globalists, he’s also low level tacitly, not stopping going along with some of these COVID1984 measures. So again, the actions are telling you a lot. I mean, if I were in power, I would be a JFK. I’d be willing to die trying trying to stop this system. And it was recently reported that Belarus now, Lukashenko who’s one of the few holding out. So I think in Belarus now they’re introducing the QR code system. Maybe to get back on the social level, I had a question.
I mentioned earlier that this Mexican government functionary who I spoke with loves the great reset. In an Epoch Times interview you said there is this laptop class or people who work in the government who basically earnestly believe the great reset propaganda. They agree with it. They support it. I’ve seen people sitting in parks, or cafes, or restaurants, and gatherings, gleefully discussing which biologicals, as they call them here in Mexico, vaccines or injections, they’re going to take next, their third, their fourth, their fifth.
And in one sense, they have actually now become our enemies because they have declared us as enemies. They’re cheering for us to be thrown in the algorithm ghetto, like the Germans cheering on the Jews being thrown into the physical ghettos. So I’m still in disbelief, the number that has been done on these people, our neighbors, friends, coworkers, and families. How do you treat or deal now with this laptop class? Because it’s getting more dangerous now because there’s this guy telling me to my face, “I don’t care about the people who don’t comply.” “Well, do you understand for me that means I can’t travel. I won’t be able to work. I can’t feed my kids.” And they don’t care.
Michael Rectenwald:
Yeah. Well, when the so-called pandemic began, I said to my son, I said, what scares me about this is not this virus or COVID-19, “What scares me about this is the state and what they’re going to do. And this was before they started doing it.” And he’s like, “What? They’re going to be our savior.” I said, “Hardly.” So the way I look at these people is they’re dangerous. They’re state agents. They have been enlisted into the state.
They’re actually state functionaries, if you will. So I find them to be very dangerous and to be avoided and to be feared, to be treated very cautiously. None of these people are going to be trusted. These people will turn you over in a heartbeat. These are like the Nazi foot soldiers in effect. And the population that went along with all this in Nazi Germany, they’re the same types of people or the people in the Soviet Union that spied on and reported their neighbors for making some sort of a deviation for being devious of some sort.
So I find these people to be dangerous. I think they’re state agents. I don’t trust them at all. Everybody out there that is not… Well, how should I say? Who doesn’t see through and see COVID1984 for what it is, is very dangerous person.
Geopolitics & Empire:
I would agree, and I’ve started to think about this. Even some of our friends who have bought into the narrative and yet haven’t gone gotten stopped talking to us or anything where we still get along. We’re still able to get along. They haven’t shunned us. What you just said, I still fear that at some point, if the government continues, makes these measures and they put crazy new laws where if you don’t inject your kid, or if adults aren’t injected, then they will be fined. They should be reported. I’m afraid that some of my neighbors or even some of our current fair weather friends would turn on us. As you said, that’s a danger.
Michael Rectenwald:
Yeah, absolutely.
Geopolitics & Empire:
How do we resist and fight back at this point?
Michael Rectenwald:
Well, we have to keep doing this and keep doing what we’re doing. I have said this before, what we’re doing right now is resistance. It is part of the solution. But furthermore, I think it’s going to come to mass action, frankly, at some point like it has in Canada. And I think this is going to spread. There has to be a massive pushback against these state mandates, these state dictatorial policies, this whole coordinated state fascist overlord situation. Defiance has got to be the key.
There’s a couple ways to defy. One is to become a Waldgänger that is to effectively inject this from yourself. Don’t let it be part of you. And to have a sort of inner rebellion first. You have to have an inner rebellion in order to be able to withstand the pressure and have an external rebellion as well.
Geopolitics & Empire:
Also, I’m a bit of a fan of game theory. I’m also that kind of person that I just like to prepare things in advance, for everything in life. I like to have things done in advance in case something happens. I’ve already got that issue solved as much as I can instead of waiting for something to break and then you’re kind of screwed. I’m just that kind of person. So people tell me to be more optimistic and have more hopium. I’m not a defeatist by any means, otherwise I would’ve been already long gone in the woods or the Mexican jungle.
But as we both discussed last time, I think that things are going to get still extremely dark. And that’s my kind of sober assessment. In terms of contingency plans in the meanwhile, what’s constantly on my mind is how to best survive this social credit or beast system, and I think of things like… And other people on the podcast have brought these things up like limiting use of smartphones, de-Googling your phone using cash as much as possible, getting funds out of the banks as we’re seeing now in Canada.
I think there were some rumors on social media of bank runs in Canada. Putting your wealth into physical stores of wealth, local banks, alternative stores of wealth, creating local networks where you were talking about the anti-ESG funds.
Michael Rectenwald:
Parallel structure in effect.
Geopolitics & Empire:
Yeah, getting a farm if you can. One good news, I read recently that Nick Vujicic, the Serbian-Australian Christian evangelist born with no limbs, he’s creating the pro-life bank, which is going to be have one physical location in Texas, but it’s going to be an international bank that I think everyone will be able to use without being the platform. Have you thought about how to live day to day life if this social credit system advances?
Michael Rectenwald:
Yeah, I mean, I’ve been trying to live like it’s already here by virtue of being uncancellable, and that I think most importantly is to get independent from institution that are part of the system. I mean, this is not possible for many people who are working as salaried employees of these organizations, whether corporate or state. But I think the entrepreneurial independence is key to get away from these institutions who are really going to crackdown on everybody. Enough crackdown on so many already.
So that’s the primary thing, I think, trying to have viability outside of the system so that I think speaks to parallel structures, parallel communications, parallel media, parallel money, parallel production, parallel exchange, and so forth. So we are way behind the eight ball here in what we should have done by now in establishing these parallel structures.
We should have these networks much more established. Networks of people that are willing to exchange with each other that are producing and selling things. For example, the Frontline Doctors are beginning to set up, I think a hospital. So all the defects from the COVID1984 regime in the medical field should have been, and are in fact beginning to establish parallel medical institutions because it’s come to the point where we might not get medical attention if you haven’t been vaccinated.
And these people will not do that to you. So those kind of things. I do what I can on a daily basis, but I’m pretty busy with writing and trying to get my message and ideas out there in order to try to forestall, and avert, and defeat this development, this totalitarianism, this global totalitarianism that we’re under.
I still see people that don’t get it. I mean, I’m so surprised that people don’t get it. They go, “Why are they doing that to the Canadians?” I’m like, “That’s not very smart or that’s not… What? Do you realize what we’re dealing with here? Don’t you see what we’re…” And once you understand that we’re dealing with so totalitarianism, everything makes sense. But they haven’t read about this. They don’t know any history. They just don’t get it.
So they’re still thinking that we’re living in some democratic society. They’re still living in probably have a nostalgia for probably a past that never existed really. And they’re still trying to live off of ether, memories and beliefs that don’t apply. Yeah. That’s one thing I would say is you have to expel these false beliefs because they’re deadly.
Geopolitics & Empire:
This is the thing that’s getting me. I still can’t believe how people don’t get it. I was telling this guy… Again, this guy who was telling me, he loves the great reset.
Michael Rectenwald:
He loves the great reset.
Geopolitics & Empire:
I mean, that my words. I mean he was just saying, “If you don’t play along, I don’t care. Screw you.” But I’m just losing my train of thought. But I was posting on Facebook. We saw recently France like they had these convoys in France and Paris and the cops just smashing windows of people and gassing restaurants where families are enjoying meals in Canada with the shock troops coming in and in tanks. I post, like, “Look at this. Are you going to double down on your Stockholm Syndrome or are you going to finally wake up?” I mean, it’s like, hello, it’s right in your face.
Michael Rectenwald:
Even people that are on effect punitively outside of that aren’t Branch Covidians still don’t get what we’re dealing with. As long as they don’t get that, they’re going to continue to have the wrong responses and that’s very dangerous for them. It’s dangerous for us too.
Geopolitics & Empire:
Because they’re the useful idiots pushing all of this along. And you just go to your previous thought on parallel economies. It is getting tough. Well, there’s a lot of people as you say, who are salaried employees. I think one thing that holds them back is mental where they’re just afraid to leave that job, that corporate job that they’ve been working in. And I think they could succeed if they just had more courage and take risk. [crosstalk 00:47:15]
Yeah. They could be successful. But on the other hand, the university where I used to work here in Mexico, I just discovered… I mean, I knew they were a globalist institution. They’ve had Hillary Clinton and Bill Gates speak at the graduation ceremonies, and Al Gore. But someone just showed me officially how that the school where I used to work, Tec de Monterrey today is owned by this corporate conglomerate called Femsa, which is officially connected to the World Economic Forum.
Michael Rectenwald:
Wow.
Geopolitics & Empire:
It’s incredible. The work you’ve been doing, if you dig deep enough, you will find all of these things. Is there any other issue that I haven’t brought up that you wanted to comment on?
Michael Rectenwald:
I think that’s very interesting what you said about courage. It took, I got to say, and I’m not trying to pat myself on the back, but it took courage to leave NYU, a globalist institution of the first order. In fact, I worked and taught in a global liberal studies program that was basically training people to be globalist leaders and middle managers and upper managers and stuff like that.
I mean, they gave a deanship to Chelsea Clinton and paid her $600,000 a year for doing nothing. That was kind of like one of the tipping points that started driving me crazy about what was going on there. It takes great courage and I think people need to buck up and find that courage within. Maybe some reading will help. I think it helps to read how people in, for example, under communism in Czechoslovakia and other regions survived totalitarian communism because we’re under it.
I don’t know if it’s not necessarily communism per se. We’re dealing with, as I said, communist capitalism or corporate socialism, but we’re under totalitarian. So you need to find out how people survive those things. And one way to do it is to look at the past. Now, they’re not going to be the same. Not all the certain situations have distinctions that can’t be reproduced, but nevertheless, there’s many parallels that you can draw and they give you resources and sustain inner sustenance in order to resist and survive.
Geopolitics & Empire:
All right. And any then last word, final thought for us?
Michael Rectenwald:
Let’s see. I mean, if you want to find out what I’m thinking in general, go to my website, MichaelRectenwald.com where all my essays are. You can find all my books connected there. My media appearances like this one will be up on the media or interview page, things like that. There I talk about what I think is going on and what to do about it. I am not the solution man, so to speak. I am an analyst of what’s happening.
So I do look to others too, in terms of what to do. And I think there are some movements out there that are interesting to look at like the greater reset, the Freedom Cells movement and so on and so forth. So keep your eye on those.
Geopolitics & Empire:
Yeah. I’m also more of an observer of the state of things and dabbling more in solutions. But I think we’re all going to by force, by necessity need to start looking more at…
Michael Rectenwald:
At solutions. Yeah.
Geopolitics & Empire:
Solutions, yeah. And again, I have your website bookmarked, MichaelRectenwald.com. I follow you on Twitter. So again, people should follow you wherever you are online. And it’s always great to chat with the Rectenwald and good to see that you got your health back.
Michael Rectenwald:
Thank you.
Geopolitics & Empire:
Again, thanks for being back on Geopolitics & Empire.
Michael Rectenwald:
My pleasure. Thanks so much for having me.
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About Michael Rectenwald
Dr. Michael Rectenwald is the author of eleven books, including Thought Criminal (2020); Beyond Woke (May 2020); Google Archipelago: The Digital Gulag and the Simulation of Freedom (2019); Springtime for Snowflakes: “Social Justice” and Its Postmodern Parentage (an academic’s memoir, 2018); Nineteenth-Century British Secularism: Science, Religion and Literature (2016); Academic Writing, Real World Topics (2015, Concise Edition 2016); Global Secularisms in a Post-Secular Age (2015); Breach (Collected Poems, 2013); The Thief and Other Stories (2013); and The Eros of the Baby-Boom Eras (1991).
Michael was a Professor of Liberal Studies and Global Liberal Studies at NYU from 2008 to 2019. He also taught at Duke University, North Carolina Central University, Carnegie Mellon University, and Case Western Reserve University. He holds a Ph.D. in Literary and Cultural Studies from Carnegie Mellon University, a Master’s in English Literature from Case Western Reserve University, and a B.A. in English Literature from the University of Pittsburgh.
Professor Rectenwald is a pundit and champion of free speech and opposes all forms of authoritarianism and totalitarianism, including socialism-communism, “social justice,” fascism, political correctness, and “woke” ideology. The notorious @antipcnyuprof (now @TheAntiPCProf), he has appeared on numerous major network political talk shows (Tucker Carlson Tonight, Fox & Friends, Fox & Friends First, Varney & Company, The Glenn Beck Show), on syndicated radio shows (Coast to Coast AM, Glenn Beck and many others), on The Epoch Times’ American Thought Leaders, among numerous podcasts and online shows.
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Feb 8, 2022 • 1h 3min
Tessa Lena: Parallels Exist Between Lenin’s Great Reset & Schwab’s Great Reset
Tessa Lena discusses her foray into writing about The Great Reset via her popular Substack which is also featured on prominent websites such as Mercola.com. She never imagined the dystopian future would come so soon. In an attempt to explain what’s going on today, she examines the Great Resets of the past, from Russian serfdom, to the Russian Revolution (Lenin’s “Great Reset”), and growing up during the collapse of the Soviet Union. She talks about “disease blackmail” and how she’s skeptical on putting much weight on “isms”, but the ideology of Davos communism is what the Bolsheviks were using. She talks about rock stars going “Covid Central,” what the Algorithm Ghetto might look like, and how we all have an inner technocrat. Tessa doesn’t think Davos will get what it wants because it’s just too crazy.
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About Tessa Lena
Tessa Lena is a strongly opinionated musician living in New York. She is a classically trained pianist and singer, born and raised in Moscow.
As a teenager, Tessa had the honor of performing her own composition at the Moscow Conservatory, and wanted to be a geneticist.
As her interests expanded to Tibetan music and language, she headed to Lhasa with a backpack to do a field study in linguistics and enthomusicology.
After being attacked by a sex trafficker in Southern China and successfully fighting him off, Tessa settled in Chicago.
In Chicago, she started a band working with her hero Ian McDonald of King Crimson and Foreigner, and drummer Alan Lake, who has played and recorded with Madonna, Brian Ferry, Julian Lennon, Ministry, Brian Wilson and Sam Moore from Sam And Dave.
After a few years in Chicago, Tessa moved to New York and started a new band, Tessa Makes Love, along with occasional collaborations by Ian McDonald.
In 2013, her music video “Spente Le Stelle” received over a million very useful views on YouTube although the jury is still out on how many people realized that the video was a satire. Alas, the world keeps spinning, and it is still imperfect!
In 2016, Tessa started Coalition for Artistic Dignity and organized a conference in Brooklyn dedicated to artistic dignity, social power and corporate responsibility.
In early 2017, she released an album titled ‘Tessa Fights Robots,’ you can listen and buy it here.
Since the English language only has so many words, this blog is also called ‘Tessa Fights Robots.’
Both the album and the blog are about being human in the world of technology, big data, and machine-like people.
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Feb 5, 2022 • 55min
James Corbett: Biosecurity is the New Governance Paradigm for the Planet
James Corbett discusses where his head is at after all these years of doing what he’s been doing and what’s most pressing on his mind at the moment. He agrees that the COVID1984 biosecurity state is one of the central problems facing humanity today. The Digital ID system is being implemented in the very near-term and will then be forwarded through social credit scores and CBDCs. James warns against hopium and that although we’ve won some battles, we are not winning the war. He discusses how he views the elite global power structure and their visions of the future such as eugenics, transhumanism, and technocracy. He gives his thoughts on the prospects of future war, how to think about deep politics, as well as solutions.
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TRANSCRIPT
Geopolitics & Empire:
The Geopolitics & Empire podcast is joined by James Corbett. The man, the myth, the legend. Señor Santiago or Jaime, as we would call you here in México. How is the Great Reset going in Japan?
James Corbett:
As well as can be expected. In fact, actually given what is happening in other parts of the world, it’s going extremely well here in Japan, which is not something I would’ve predicted beforehand.
But before we start, let me just give a little plug for your podcast. I’ve been enjoying it quite a bit recently. I appreciate the fact that you’re bringing in a lot of different people with, from a lot of different perspectives.
Some of whom I agree with, some of whom I slightly agree with, some of whom I violently disagree with, but I do appreciate that you do get a broad range of opinions on.
Geopolitics & Empire:
Yeah, thanks for that. You know, I was just going to say, it’s kind of funny that here we are two, I guess former English teachers turn podcasters, content creators, whatever you want to call it. And the Geopolitics & Empire can’t hold a candle to the prolific work of corporate report, but it’s funny.
I had you actually on my future guest list and then the friend of mind pointed out that recently you had actually mentioned me in your Kazakhstan Episode, which I thought was flattering. And I thought it was a good time now than to shoot you a mail.
But you’ve had quite the ride over the past decade, plus putting out a huge library of important work and meeting so many interesting people. I’m just curious now, how has the ride been for you? How does it feel? Has your work ethic changed much? How have you changed or stayed the same through all of these years?
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James Corbett:
Well, I guess on the personal level or on the work level, I don’t think that my work ethic has changed. I have just always been particularly self-motivated, which is a good thing when you’re basically doing this for yourself and by yourself and with yourself.
Just talking to a screen most days, if you’re not self motivated to get out of bed and start doing things, it’s probably going to be a problem. But luckily that’s never been a problem for me. So in that sense, I don’t think anything’s changed.
In fact, the one thing that has changed is when I started, of course, I was just doing this as you say, kind of as a hobby. But it was essentially a second full-time job after my full-time job of teaching.
But luckily after four years, I was able to mass enough of an audience and support in order to start doing it full-time. So now I don’t have that burden. But now I also have a family, which is obviously a demand on my time as a stay-at-home father. So I juggle a lot of balls, but luckily I’m able to do that.
However, in terms of what I’ve… the way I’ve changed in my operation or the way I think about things or the way I approach things, I think I’ve been consistent in some of my core principles and things, but I have certainly changed on certain topics and certain ideas.
And obviously, I’d like to think that as my research, as I’ve done more research, I’ve come to a more nuanced understanding of various things. Probably the biggest change that has occurred in the demonstrable in the time since I started to now would be my conversion from statism to some flavor of anarchism. I think that’s a pretty big change to make politically speaking.
Geopolitics & Empire:
Yeah. Speaking of anarchism, I was just going to ask you, by the way. I think… Have you been to Mexico for Anarchapulco?
James Corbett:
I’ve been there twice. Yeah.
Geopolitics & Empire:
How did you enjoy Mexico? Is it someplace… A lot of people are fleeing to Mexico. Is it a place you’d recommend?
James Corbett:
I recommend… Actually, I have a questions for COVID on this specifically, I think it’s called, where should we run to? I think it was number 74, but don’t hold me to that. Anyway, you can find it on my site. Where I address that question, because I get that question a lot from people at least a couple of week, every single week.
I want to move. Where should I… What country should I move to? I cannot and will not answer that question for anyone because it’s such a personal question dependent on a thousand different personal context sort of things.
So, for some people, I’m sure Mexico is a great place to go. For others, I’m sure it is not. And I wouldn’t presume to say either way. For me personally, what is the secret stew that made it so that when I got to Japan, and was planning to stay here for one year, I’ve stayed here for 18 years.
What is it about Japan that drew me to it and I felt comfortable? At this point, I feel more at home in Japan than I would in Canada. So why is that? I don’t know. That’s a million different personal things that go to that.
But people always ask me, why did you go to Japan? Like, as if it was some sort of big political decision that I made or some sort of calculation or strategic thing. No, I was a young, dumb, single, carefree was just looking for a way to kill a year and make some money. So I’ll go teach English in Asia. And it turns out I really liked it in Japan. That’s the long and short of it.
As it turns out, that was actually, I think very beneficial for me in a number of ways. One of which is that because I was not fluent Japanese speaker in Japan at in early 2000s. My lifeline, the sort of the thing that I was getting information and news and things from was online.
And so, I was a very early adopter of podcasts and what have you, because it was just a very easy way for me to stay in touch with what was going on back home in Canada. And as a result of that, I think I was early on the wave of things like podcasting and other things, which helped me out in the long run.
And, also, I think it is easier to do this work that I do from a remove. I talk a lot about Canada and the US and other places. But it’s good to have that actual distance, so I can sort of see things from afar and get a different perspective on them.
Geopolitics & Empire:
Yeah. My story is the same. I thought I’d go to Mexico just for a year or two. I became a Mexican. I’ve been here for 10 years and even Mexicans ask me, why’d you come here? And I’m like, “I’m still trying to figure out the question… the answer to that question,” so that’s just life. You know, life happens.
And as you say, I agree when people ask me, should I go to Russia or Mexico or Latin America? And I often tell them, it might be better just to stay put where you are. So I wanted to get your thoughts on what’s most pressing you at the moment?
There’s a lot of questions I can ask you. And often I ask my guests, what’s on your mind right now? I cover a lot of top topics, but I’ve kind of gotten tired of the geopolitical war talk with this, US, Russia, cycle at the moment. And I kind of view it as a bit of a diversion from COVID1984.
The great reset and all that it entails is my number one worry, at the moment. That includes this cyber pandemic and all of this stuff that you and I and listeners know about. I’m kind of disregarding all of this talk of the restrictions being canceled.
Many of the articles that I’m reading, in fact they say, “Oh, we’re getting rid of the restrictions”, but they still outline that the COVID passports are here to stay. And here in Mexico they’re already operating, they’re already talk about expanding them.
So now they’re attempting to install this global social credit system, which went in place will basically turn off my ability to do anything. I don’t think I’m exaggerating that it will literally starve me and my family to death. That’s kind of my worry, that’s on my radar. What’s what are some of the things on your radar at the moment?
James Corbett:
Well, I think my thoughts are very much in line with that COVID1984 has as much to do with a virus as Watergate had to do with a hotel, which is to say nothing. It’s not about that. And so whatever happens in terms of this pandemic that we’re living through right now, it doesn’t matter.
The infrastructure for the biosecurity state is being laid, has already to some extent, been laid and will not be pride out without some major revolutionary times to come. So that’s definitely forefront in my mind, at least for this particular moment and what we’re living through right now.
And I have always, and will always cite one of the writers and thinkers that helped me to not understand this, but to articulate it. It was Giorgio Agamben, who was the one from whom I got that term biosecurity and he formulated it very simply, very precisely in a very early on.
And I think he definitely saw where this was going from a very early stage. So for people who don’t know about Giorgio Agamben, he wrote a… He’s an Italian philosopher. He’s written about states of emergency and how they are used to override constitutions and other things, which basically, I think shows that the political, the governance paradigm that we live under is not really what we think it is and can change at a moment’s notice as we have seen.
And he’s really articulated what this is and where it’s going, and the fact that this is a new governance paradigm for the planet. For example, when he did an interview in May of 2020, so very early on called Polemos Epidemios, where he said an epidemic as this is suggested by its etymological roots in the Greek term demos, which designates the people as a political body is first and foremost, a political concept. In Homer, Polemos Epidemios is the civil war.
What we see today is that the epidemic is becoming the new terrain of politics. The battleground of a global civil war, because a civil war is a war against an internal enemy, one which lives inside of ourselves. And it goes on to say, it is important to understand that biosecurity both in its efficacy and in its pervasiveness out does every form of governance that we have hit to known as been able to see in Italy.
But not only here, as soon as a threat to health is declared, people unresisting consent to limitations on their freedom, that they would never have accepted in the past. Well, that’s a pretty good articulation of what’s happened over the past couple of years.
And as I say this, this has nothing to do with the particularities of this particular moment, and people who have followed my work for any length of time, hopefully know by now.
I was talking about medical martial law over a decade ago, because precisely because the legislative institutional groundwork for this has been laid over the past couple of decades at the very least.
So this particular thing is being used as the moment, okay, let’s pull the trigger on this, but the gun was already loaded and ready to go. And it didn’t take a crystal ball to see where this was going. This is the new governance paradigm for the planet, for at least until the next one comes along.
We went from the homeland security state of the early two thousands into the biosecurity state without missing a beat. And there are a number of parallels there. And I did a piece in 2020 on September 11th, I released COVID 9/11, where I specifically drew those parallels between homeland security and biosecurity.
And you can look at some very specific examples. I believe it was the clear health pass was something that was started in… or 2002, 2003, something like that as part of this screening process at airports before the homeland security state and screening for terrorism and what have you.
And that company has effortlessly switched over to, well, now they’re going to be providing the health check screening passports that now won’t just be at the airports. Now it’s moving out into your everyday life. And exactly, as you say, it’s creating the infrastructure for a state where they can turn your ability to participate in society on or off with a flick of a switch.
So I guess what I see coming is, in the very near term, yes, all of this vaccine, health passport is just the fig leaf for the implementation of the digital ID system, which will then be used and forwarded through social credit scores and the central bank digital currency, which is what I see as the midterm in the next five years.
We are going to start seeing the implementations of CBDCs in various countries, which will be directly controlled by central banks. They will be able to algorithmically control money itself so that if they want to impose limits, for example, we want… we need to quarantine this city. So your CBDC wallet will no longer work if you leave the city and we have your GPS, because it’s on your smartphone.
So we know where you are. We know who you’re transacting with. We know what you’re buying at every moment that you’re buying it, we can allow or disallow that transaction. That is the nightmare in the midterm. And then long term, unfortunately, within the next decade, I do see hot war geopolitical war as a very real possibility.
Geopolitics & Empire:
Yeah. I had a similar view, actually I had Agamben’s book on my wish list. Now I’m going to get it that you mentioned it. And I think about a year ago, I think I was one of the first to interview, Robin Monotti, the architect; and he was mentioning, Italian architect and he was mentioning Agamben.
But I think this… Some of the… What we’re seeing goes back even way further like a century. I interviewed the Jewish historian, Edwin Black, where he talks about the algorithm ghetto. And on his show just two weeks ago, the topic was how in 1938, the Governor of Connecticut, Eugenicist had drawn up plans to actually take people.
They deemed as undesirables, send them to extermination camps in the Ozarks. We’re talking about Connecticut in the United States in 1938. So he lost reelection, so that plan just never came to fruition, but he was influenced by the Nazis who were in turn influenced earlier by the American Eugenicist.
So it seems like what they’re trying to do now, they’ve been trying to do this for a century. And it’s insane, and as you say, a lot of people say, I’m too pessimistic or cynical, but I don’t see this going away like we’re in it.
They’re laying the infrastructure. There’s a lot of hopium going around, but I’m just kind of like bating down the hatches and kind of preparing for the worst. It’s just… I mean, what are your thoughts going forward?
James Corbett:
Yes, I agree. We should not be taking this lightly. As we’re recording this, I wrote an editorial just the past weekend called Do NOT Go Back to Sleep, this is not the end, because I see the same sort of rhetoric going around.
People celebrating. Yay, they’re rolling back the restrictions. Yes, okay, let’s be happy about the steps that are being taken in the right direction, but we may be winning certain battles. We are not winning this war, not by a long shot. Not yet. So there’s a lot more work to be done.
On that note that you mentioned about the historical context for this and stepping back and looking at the bigger, bigger picture of where this is coming from and the ideology behind it, I think that’s extremely important to be able to understand that this is not just the happenstance incompetent boobs, bumbling their way through a response to this thing that came up, oh, what are we going to do?
Now, this is part and parcel of a plan that is in line with an ideology that has been pervasive at the very least demonstrably for over a century now. And I tried to tie that history to get other in my, How and Why Big Oil Conquered the World documentary, where essentially, what I see is the early iteration of this philosophy ideology guiding principles of the oligarchs was framed around the concept of eugenics.
The pseudoscience of eugenics that developed in the late 19th century in England, but quickly spread to the United States and then to Germany, etcetera. But, of course, after World War II, when all of that, well, it’s… we can’t really claim to be eugenicist anymore. It’s kind of got a dark. We don’t want to have those connotations.
So we have to take an underground. And the American Eugenics Society and others explicitly said, we need start crypto eugenics. You had Julian Huxley, the founder of UNESCO writing in the founding document of UNESCO. We need to make eugenic policies thinkable again, all of this.
Well, how do we do that? Well, you have people like Julian Huxley and others who come together in organizations like the World Wildlife Federation. What a wonderful thing? Yay! All these very rich, very powerful people coming together in conservatorship, kind of organizations, World Wildlife Federation, these sorts of things that are just about protecting nature.
And then we get the next iteration of the eugenics ideas, which was reformulated as population control to save the planet and population control in every sense, not just in terms of numbers and controlling fertility and sterility and what have you. But also controlling the population and what they can do and what they’re allowed to do.
And that starts to go into the burgeoning environmental movement, which becomes a way of restricting people’s ability to access various parts of nature. And eventually, of course, who can own and what will we do with this nature. And that’s culminating, as I was reporting late last year in this Global Financial Alliance for Net Zero, which came about at the top 26 in Scotland.
Where they’re talking about, oh, we’re going to form these new natural asset classes, which will then be traded by the trustworthy people of Blackstone and other such investment companies. And we’re going to have these billionaires stewarding over the world’s natural resources in the name of saving mother earth, of course.
And where I see this going long term is into the next iteration of the same idea, the fundamental idea of eugenics, which for people who don’t know, look it up, but essentially the idea that there are certain people who are genetically fit to rule over others, they are genetically superior and their genes deserve to be propagated into the future.
The genes of the poor and the criminals and the mentally defective, they need to be removed from the gene pool. That’s essentially what we’re talking about. It’s just a justification for ruling class ideology, but the long term, the next stage of that is going to be transhumanism. And that sounds absolutely crazy to the average person as it should, but don’t talk to me or to the average person talk to Klaus Schwab.
And the world economic forum, the fourth industrial revolution, talking about the merging of our digital, biological and physical identities, the brain chips, and all these crazy ideas that, again, it’s not James Corbett we’re talking about. It’s Klaus Schwab and his cronies talking about these ideas that are coming that will be tied into the central bank digital currencies and the digital IDs and the social credit scores and the vaccine passports, which for some reason, they’re calling green passes in country after country.
I wonder if there’s some carbon credits that are coming in the future, you’ll have a carbon allowance that you’ll be allowed to spend each month, which ties into technocracy, which is an entire other idea, which ties very nicely into the eugenic story that I’m painting here. Where, literally, it was a plan to structure the economy, not around dollars and cents or pesos or yen, but around jewels of energy.
And you will be allotted a credit of energy each month by the technocratic rulers of the technique who rule over you. And they will allow you to spend a certain amount of energy each month. So products and services that you buy will be priced in units of energy.
And this will all be balanced by the scientists and engineers who know best for you. Again, all of this fits together. And to anyone who doesn’t understand or doesn’t know any part of what I just talked about, that just sounds like I just verbally diarrhead all over the place for the last couple of minutes.
But when you start to know all of the pieces of that puzzle and how they fit together, it is absolutely breathtaking. And that is the reason why people like yourself know that whatever little rollbacks we’re getting on this or that mandate here and there is not the end of this battle.
Geopolitics & Empire:
Yeah. I just saw recently someone I interviewed some months ago, the Australian Senator Malcolm Roberts, he’s going all out and he’s just been weekly now talking about this Australian Digital Identity Bill. And basically using the same language as you, he’s saying that they want to put our all aspects of our lives to make it a subscription service to them.
As you laid out every single aspect of our lives, and I don’t know how important this is. How would you qualify this system? For me, it’s not that important. It’s ultimately total. It’s a totalitarian system that’s going to have total control, the financial aspect, money and power. But we hear, you’ve mentioned biosecurity states, technocracies, some people call this Marxist, monopoly, capitalist, transhumanist. It seems to be like this beast that’s got flavors of each, how would you kind of qualify it?
James Corbett:
Yes. In a sense, perhaps trying to put the definitive single label on it is self-defeating, precisely because it can morph and change shape to suit whatever the etiology of the moment is. I always point out that hundreds or thousands of years ago, people believed that their rulers were either literally gods or appointed by God to rule over them.
That doesn’t fly in the modern, enlightened, scientific era. So they needed to come up with a news story. Okay. It’s genes, actually, when eugenetics started, they didn’t even know about genetics per se. Mendel was still doing his pea pod experiments and stuff.
So they didn’t really have any actual scientific basis for it. They just called it germplasm. And said, “Well, our germplasm, our goo is better than your goo. And this is the scientific way of doing this.” So they will morph and change the narrative to suit whatever timeframe they happen to be in.
And I think the one for the coming decades is going to be technocracy. It’s going to be, don’t worry guys, the scientists trust the science. They know what’s best, these people in the white lab coats know everything.
Where do the people in the white lab coats get their funding and resources? And no, never ever think about that question. No, it’s just, they’re floating on clouds and they will tell you what to do. And I think that’s going to be the fig leaf of justification for this in the coming years.
So I think, for example, Patrick Wood has it nailed. I think this is technocracy as the governance paradigm they’re going to go with for the coming decades. And that’s going to dictate the way that this unfolds and it’s a nightmare, unless we are aware of this and consciously working towards. And I wouldn’t even say fighting against the implementation of the system so much as building up the actual alternative to this system.
Because their entire system is going to be predicated on being able to control and monitor and disallow any interaction or any transaction with any person in real time through their technological control. We have to build up the alternative infrastructure for an alternative economy now.
We should have been doing it 20, 50, a hundred years ago. But, hey, might as well start today. And if we don’t have that in place by the time this CBDC and all of these things are in place, it will be game over for free humanity.
Geopolitics & Empire:
Yeah. I talked to Patrick about a month ago. And on this podcast, we often talk about parallel structures, parallel economies, to talk about a bit about Mr. Global. Then there’s a lot of smart people that I interview. And as you said earlier, when you listen to my podcast, people have to get it through their head that I don’t necessarily agree with my guests, but you got to hear different points of views and a comment. A listener was telling me like, “Everyone’s got a little piece of the puzzle that maybe you didn’t think about before.”
And so I’ve got guests, like recently I had on Ron Unz, who thinks that COVID was a US bio weapon launched against China. Right before that, I spoke to Jeff Nyquist who thinks it’s a Chinese-Russian bio weapon launched against the US and the west.
And then before that I had the Dutch academic Kees Van Der Pijl, who wrote the fantastic book States of Emergency. And I agree with him where we’re seeing… Other people that I’ve talked to, like Michael Rectenwald as well, that point out the same that we’re seeing factions of ruling elites or ruling elites in all nations.
They have some sort of a global network where they’re working together, because how else can you explain all nations from Mexico to Kazakhstan, where I used to live, to everywhere, applying the same measures. And so, I mean, what are your thoughts on… what do you think is going on? Is there this one global power structure that’s infiltrated all nations?
James Corbett:
Yes, essentially yes. To a certain extent. So let me clarify that. But let me say, I have listened to all three of those conversations and although I disagree to some extent with all of them, I certainly agree the most with Van Der Pijl? Was that his name?
Geopolitics & Empire:
Yeah.
James Corbett:
Yeah. He was more in line with the way I’m thinking about this. Although I tend to disagree with his economic framing and what have you. But, yes, clearly this is more than a nation state 2D chess game that’s being played right now.
And so for people who are interested in this, I have talked at length a number of times about the concept of 3D chess, geopolitically. I’m sure this is not a new concept of people by this point in 2022. But essentially, no, I do not think that the nation states waring against each other is the entirety of the game, so to speak.
I think it is part of the game, but I think there are forces and bodies that clearly and demonstrably over the past couple of years are enacting an agenda across nation state borders. And a clear example of this, whether you think Russia are the good guys in some fight against evil NATO, or whether you think that they’re the bad guys that we should be trying to contain.
In any sense, just look at their COVID policies and the vaccine passports and the vaccines rolling out and all of this, it’s wow, it’s almost identical to what’s happening in the west. Wow, I thought these were arch rivals. What’s going on here? And then you start to look at the actual specific people like the CEO of Sberbank. Gref? I forget his name.
Geopolitics & Empire:
Yeah. [crosstalk 00:26:54]-
James Corbett:
People like this that are clearly connected into the world, economic forum, explicitly, and organizations like this. And I always try to stress, I don’t think the world economic forum is running the world. But I think it’s a good example that you can put your finger on.
Oh, here’s an organization with all these spokes that tend to go out into all of these different places that connect all of these players and all of these different supposedly waring countries. What’s going on here?
And I’ve talked about this many, many times. I will point once again, and I will always make the caveat that I’m not promoting this person. But I think it’s a good one to use it to people who are to point out to people who are skeptical, that in 2008, the mini Kissinger… What’s his name? He was the head of Kissinger and Associates for some time, he ran foreignpolicy.com. He’s a beltway insider in Washington.
Geopolitics & Empire:
Is that Rothkopf or something?
James Corbett:
David Rothkopf, right? Right. Yeah. He wrote the Superclass, which was a book talking explicitly about this. The fact that there are actors who are not necessarily politicians, they are not in national governments who… there’s about 6,000 of them who are a superclass, who are able to enact agendas across national borders.
And, of course, every time he was giving Rothkopf, every time he was giving a speech about this or an interview in that time period, when the book came out, he was like, “Oh, I’m not a conspiracy theorist. This isn’t a conspiracy theory. I’m not. Don’t tell me [inaudible 00:28:25].” But everything he’s saying is exactly what the crazy conspiracy theorists are alleging.
That, yes, there is a superclass that is an oligarchical elite that is able to enact an international agenda through various bodies and things like the world economic forum, or like the Bilderberg group or these other places of power and influence where clearly there is an international agenda being set and implemented, again, as we have seen over the past couple of years. So, yes, clearly there is some much, much bigger thing happening right now than merely a nation state 2D [inaudible 00:28:57].
Geopolitics & Empire:
I’m going to show my Putin coffee cup. I’m not a Putin fanboy. I have it for fun. I picked it up when I was in St. Petersburg few years ago. But I think people have to think, imagine how you, whatever citizen you are of whatever country, how you feel with your own government, right?
As you said, you left statism and you became sort of an anarchist. And I think a lot of us understand that our governments are evil. You read RJ Rummel who I think came up with the term democide. Death by Government. In 20th century, government killed the most people was the cause of most deaths.
Now imagine, if you’re a Russian living in Russia, you’re going to feel the same way as an American feels against this corrupt American government, as a Russian against its own Russian government. There’s no reason for us to think the Russians are any better or the Chinese or whatever other country.
And in fact, Riley Waggaman, who I’ve interviewed, who was former RT, who is in Russia. He lays out, his subtech is amazing. He’s showing you how Russia’s going full great reset. And actually, he’s going to be contributing original material articles for Geopolitics & Empires, so people [crosstalk 00:30:06]-
James Corbett:
Awesome. Good. Yeah. He’s doing good work. Let me put in a plug for him. I agree, I think, yeah, it’s incredibly important to see it from that perspective, because it can be easy for someone in America or somewhere else to look at. Oh, well, Putin such great leader in such the, it’s easy to say that when you are not actually in Russia beholden to the Russian system,
Oh, the Russian vaccine passports are just so much better than the American version. Like what? What’s going on? No, clearly, yeah. It’s important to keep that perspective in mind that we should not be idealizing. Or then the other flip side of that, of course, is that it’s not I’m saying, oh, you know, we should go in and invade Russia to free them from Putin. That’s, again, that’s the wrong, wrong way of thinking about it.
Geopolitics & Empire:
So I’m trying to bring up these are some of the big questions for me as we’ve been discussing. And war also which you mentioned that you think coming, where are now? 2022 towards 2030 USC war, I see the same and a number of my guests have said the same.
I’ve talked to the Australian, Special Forces Australia, one politician, Riccardo Bosi who thinks, I’m a historian, I studied history. He’s like, “The default and history is war. Peace is the anomaly. We’re going to have war again.”
The question is kind of what’s it going to kind of look like between who, where, the consequences. And many other guests have also said the same that they see war from between 2025 closer to 2030. But it’s just that kind of interesting dynamic as you laid out, we’ve got these, these snakes that have infiltrated as you laid out our national government.
So they’re working for this global kind of power, but yet at the same time, we’ve got this overt kind of rivalry. We’re seeing now between US, Russia, China, and other states, and that will eventually go to war. So how do you explain the logic behind that? I guess what one past guest also discussed that war allows them to transform the entirety of society as well, so they can use that very much to their advantage. So what are your thoughts about war in the future?
James Corbett:
All right. So I sometimes tend to just say that I’m not a cartoon conspiracy theorist, where I think there’s one group that controls everything and they all meet in a smokey room. But let’s lay that out in detail. It’s not like there is a thing called the elite and you get your membership card to the elite.
And along with that you get the plan and here is the plan and here’s what’s going to happen. And here’s what you have to do with this. And does anyone think that’s how it works? I certainly don’t. So there are different players involved in this game who are at different layers of eliteness.
And in sort of whether they’re on the inner side of the inner circle or the outer side of the inner circle, or the outer side of the outer circle. And different levels of understanding who are, have their own motivations, individual psychology, let alone sort of where they’re, what they believe that they’re doing and what part they’re playing.
So I don’t think there is a singular plan that everyone is working towards. So there is a 2D chess game that is part of what is happening right now. And there are nation states that do have militaries and I have no doubt that a lot of people in the military of their respective nation states are on board with the idea of the 2D chess war.
And they really do see it in that those terms and they really are working towards containing, if not eradicating the enemy in the simplistic terms, etcetera. There are certain people above them who may be giving orders or funding certain things into existence, or what have you that are at a different level of the game, who might understand things a bit differently and might have different allegiances.
They might have some allegiance to their nations state of origin, but they might have allegiance to some sort of broad category of economic interest or their fellows in various organizations, etcetera. So again, a lot of people different understandings and levels that they’re playing at.
So, one way that hot war can actually eventuate is the hot head on the wrong day, firing the… pulling the trigger. But once there is enough pieces in place on the chess board, it just takes one wrong move at one wrong time to put the clockwork machinery into motion.
And that’s one way of looking at World War I. Yes, the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand started World War I. Why? Like what… How did that motivate all these different people? Well, because the clockwork machinery for all of this war was already in place, all it needed was a trigger event. Did it matter what the particular trigger event is? Well, not necessarily, no, it was a trigger event and it set everything into motion. Everything had already been set up.
In the same way, again, like I’ve been trying to stress with the biosecurity state. All of the pieces were in place. Everything was there, all it needed was a trigger event. Does it really matter what particular trigger event it is? No it’s already set up.
So I think all of the pieces are being put into place right now for a hot war scenario. So will it matter necessarily what the particular trigger event is? Well, yeah, it’ll be interesting to see, but does it matter in terms of whether or not war originates? No, not necessarily.
My bigger sort of perspective on this, because people say, “Well, okay. If they’re both sides are controlled by the same people.” And again, I think that might be a bit too simplistic way of putting it, but why would they then have, why would they need war at all if they control everything.
Well, again, I don’t think they control everything. And besides the point of war is… Has always been to get land resources. I mean, these are the geopolitical imperatives throughout history. But at this stage, the war is not against Russians or Chinese or Iranians or what have you. It is against the people, the free people of the world.
That is what we’re talking about in this ideology that we’re talking about. Ideological battle, the eugenics or transhumanism or whatever way it’s being framed in our current timeframe. The real war is against the people that’s governing structures that want to consolidate power over more and more people.
How can they best do that? War might be a way to do that. To consolidate control because one of the automatic effects of any war time is everyone rallies around the flag and supports, “Okay, we’ll do what you say.” Obedience becomes immediate and almost universal, which is certainly helpful.
Especially, during times of incredible geopolitical, economic, societal, chaos, uncertainty, a lot of things can happen. Clearly, there are some real revolutionary forces that are happening right now, and it’s starting to manifest as, for example, the Freedom Convoy in Canada, whatever you make of that is an expression of people calling out. No, this has to change. Something is really wrong here.
And what’s a good way to get people in line? U”h-oh, look at what Russia is doing. Okay. Now everybody, we have to go.” So that’s one way of framing this. But that’s why I actually did a piece on how will World War III be fought a year or two ago. In which I answered that question.
I was talking about some of the technology for warfare that has really changed what warfare will look like in the future. In the same way, World War I looked nothing like war of the 19th century. World War II looked nothing like World War I. World War III will not look anything like World War II.
But the actual answer is that World War III is already happening. It is a war of the governments of the world against their own populations. And in that war, that’s the real… the gain for all the marbles. So one way of envisioning 2D chess taking place in this 3D chess universe, 2D chess war is 1984.
You have Oceania, you have Eurasia, you have East Asia and they’re always at war. Or at least we’re told, we’re at war with Eurasia, no. East Asia? Oh, I got to check the newspaper. Oh, it says Eurasia. Okay. I guess we’re at war with them today.
And there’s bombs dropping down and we’re being told it’s well, I guess it’s Eurasia. We’re at war with Eurasia now. Okay. It must be them, I guess. I don’t know. Anyway, we’re at war. So we have to just do what the government tells us.
That’s one way of thinking about this. Obviously, I don’t mean it in that literal sense. There will be real bombs dropping in the event of real hot war and they will really kill people. But the idea that this is being waged simply at that 2D level. And that it’s about a nation state versus a nation state rather than control of the general population. I think we have to get out of that mindset of thinking of it at that nation state level.
Geopolitics & Empire:
And speaking of mindset, I kind of wanted to bring this up. Someone in my telegram, Geopolitics & Empire Telegram channel, chat was saying, “Oh, the Canada trucker convoy is a sigh up by the elites to really take down the supply chain.” And I just kind of wanted to address this issue where, there’s a lot of people on… I’m sure you’re listeners, my listeners and other folks, they have very partisan views and I’ve got my own views, but I’m not banging it over the head of anyone.
And as you said, you listen to my last three episodes. And obviously you don’t disagree with these people, but you kind of just sit there and just, listen. And I don’t think there’s a lot of folks that are going about things in a way that I think is not very healthy. They’ll comment, “Oh, no. There’s no virus, stop talk about germ theory.”
Others going to say, ‘No, it’s gain of function.” Or Kazakhstan, for example they say, “No, it’s a color revolution.” And you saw my take where I gave a very nuanced view. And today it was reported in Kazakhstan that there were Kazakh citizens trying to tell Kazakh authorities that they’re seeing terrorists and armed groups like months before what was happening.
That lends credence to the idea that maybe it was a false flag or an internal coup. And so what would you say? I think it’s like, “Bro chill.” We have to be a bit more respectful and nuanced, and there’s a lot of people that are just angry, hateful. And what are your thoughts on this needing to [crosstalk 00:40:15].
James Corbett:
I know what you’re saying. There’s a couple of different things I’d like to say about that. One is never, ever, ever take at face value interactions that you have online with avatars that you don’t see and don’t know.
Because we know, 100%, we know that there are armies of social media bots that are being run by militaries and intelligence agencies around the world. Documented on a record. I did a podcast on that a couple of years ago, the weaponization of social media.
People can check into for the documented, we know country after country, Canada, America, Israel, all of them have botnets that they employ. So don’t ever take interactions online as authentic expressions of real human beings. We don’t know that, necessarily.
But secondarily, there are people I think, who are genuinely acting in and interacting the way that you say. And here’s the way I would frame this. So think about… All right. So I play a bit of guitar and imagine you’re learning guitar and you know three or four chords and someone teaches you a new chord.
“Oh, here’s a B7.” Woo B7, awesome. So what do you do as the sort of you’re trying to figure out what, how to play and what to do. And so now you’ve got this new chord. So now you tried to put B7 in every song and everything you play. “Hey, I’m going to use this B7 chord. Wow! Look at this chord.” I understand and it’s a natural part of growing.
So unfortunately, as we know, not everyone is intellectually firing on all cylinders and not everyone’s a deep researcher, deep thinker, or what have you. And a lot of people who are just sort of the mainstream masses, who would just consume CNN 20 years ago, now realize it, the very least, okay, CNN’s wrong. And so they start to learn about false flag operations and CyOps and these kinds of things.
And so it’s like teaching someone the B7 chord. Okay, B7. So now they’re going to play that. That chord every single time, it’s a CyOps, it’s a CyOps, it’s a false flag. Because it’s the one thing that they know how to do.
And so let’s, particularize this to the freedom convoy thing. If people go again and read that editorial, I talk about do not go back to sleep, this is not the end. Of course, I acknowledge absolutely this can go wrong in a lot of different ways, but it always can. You can’t think of any freedom movement or protest or anything that could not be co-opted, could not be corrupted, could not be used for an ulterior agenda.
So let’s think truckers, and now suddenly truckers have become synonymous with this freedom movement and it’s all the truckers. And now we’re starting to see people in America and Australia and other places talking about truckers and we’ll have a trucker freedom convoy. It’s all about trucker, trucker, trucker, which is a weird way of particularizing this. No, it’s actually about the broader question of mandates and freedom and what have you.
Why is it being particularized to truckers? Well, one way that could play out, what do we know has already been tested and is already being implemented in various ways. Autonomous self-driving trucks specifically. In fact, the first cross country, American autonomous vehicle that I ever heard about actually being tested and used was a truck, specifically for trucking.
I mean that’s so long term. If we’re going to demonize a certain class of people in order to facilitate the removal of their industry, essentially, wouldn’t that be a convenient tool? Sure. That’s one way that could play out, at least in the long term. Or at the very least, if we all associate it with the truckers and what the truckers are doing, then it can become only about that particular, that class or that person or that thing. And that could be spun in various ways by the people who are controlling the narrative, the mass media.
So, yes, could it be a CyOps a false flag. We’re going to implant some protestors with Nazi flags and Confederate flags. And as people in Canada, of course, they always marching with Confederate flags, right? That’s such so natural, of course, they’ll plant provocateur and all sorts of things. As we know, they have done 2007 SPP protests in Montebello, Quebec. They were caught. The go back provincial place.
They facilitated Quebec, put in agent provocateurs to go in there, threatening the police line with rocks in their hands, in order to promote a police response. They got called out, but it happens. Absolutely. And it can happen and presumably will happen in any movement of any size and importance.
So, what’s the point of this? There are clearly genuinely hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people in Canada energized and talking about the freedom mandates, not every one of them is an agent provocateur. I’m sure there are many people… Canadians in the crowd, listening to this who know genuine people or they themselves genuinely support what is happening here.
In the idea and freedom mandate, freedom. Yay, I’m behind this idea. So it’s up to us to put that message out there and to expose the false flags and CyOps and the way that they will try to spin it into some other narrative.
It is not up to us to sit there and wait for the CBC and the CDV and other mainstream outlets to please report this in the way we want you to report it. That’s not their job. In the end of the day, you’re not their boss. So we have to be that.
And for this brief sliver of time, think of the vast expanse of human history for the last 20 or so years, it has been genuinely feasible for some no name in Japan, sitting in his living room to reach tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, occasionally millions of people with a message so that we can put our own spin on things and say, “No, no, it isn’t that. It’s this.”
We can actually direct this narrative. It is in some ways, the most exciting time in all of human history. And we are not spectators to what’s happening. And we are not on the sidelines analyzing and just, “Oh, B7, B7, B7. False flag, CyOps, CyOps, false flag.
No, we are actually people who can make a difference to this world changing historical narrative that is playing out right now. And we can tell that story for ourselves. We don’t have to wait for them to do it. It’s an exciting time to be alive. It’s an incredibly dangerous time. There’s all sorts of things that can happen. But at any rate we have a part to play in this.
Geopolitics & Empire:
Yeah, I would agree. It’s exciting. And it’s what we’re doing. It’s fun and as I’ve mentioned before, I feel like it’s the 1930s, again. It’s incredibly dangerous as well. And you started a great solutions watch series.
And I often end my interviews by asking my guests, so what do we do now? And the most frequent answers I get from many of my guests are, decentralized, move from urban to rural. Grow food, have your own water form, a community, very important. Invest in physical assets become less dependent and more independence.
And I’m also worried about the cyber pandemic, that’s in the pipe and censorship, I didn’t have time to ask you about that, but it seems like we’re going to have to be dealing with it. They’re discussing, taking down podcasts now, and even the platforming websites, like these are our last lines of defense.
I think our podcasts and, and websites, that’s why I moved to epic hosting, but I think part of this Joe Rogan scandal now is they’ve been talking for a signaling for the last few years, the establishment that they want to, they, they can’t control podcasts. So in general, what are some of your… What do we do going forward?
James Corbett:
Yeah. Thank you for picking up on that actually, because that’s actually, I talked about the midterm agenda of CBDCs and the long term agenda of some sort of hot war. I think the short term is actually cyber. Cyber related, cyber pandemic, or cyber false flag or something along those lines to lead us towards greater control of the internet.
So yes, the question as always. Okay, great. Lots of problems we know about the problems, James. What do you do about them? So that is why I did start the solutions watch series where every week, week in and week out, I’m looking at specific things that people can do or apply in their lives to make their lives better.
I do not believe there’s a silver bullet. I think there are thousands bullets and not every bullet works for every person, because they have different guns to extend that analogy way too far. But at any rate, use whatever you can to improve your life in whatever ways you can.
And hopefully, if people who are consciously setting their intent on getting out of the systems and strictures of control can find ways to do so. And so I look get various ways. So, for example, on the cyber pandemic and the threats to the internet, as we’ve known it and the very real threat to podcasting in the future, I’ve seen that absolutely for the past couple of years.
“Oh, no, podcasts. People can say whatever they want. Oh, please, someone censor.” Well, there’s different ways that that can happen. And of them is that the easiest censorship point will be the Spotifys, the Apple Podcast, the Google Pod, of course, all the centralized hubs where people go to get podcasts will be censored, first of all.
But that isn’t actually really at base how podcasting even works at base podcasting is based on RSS, Real Simple Syndication, which you do not need to go through the Apple Store or Spotify or whatever, to get a podcast. You can go directly to a website or as long as you have that RSS feed, you can plug that into any number of different applications and you will be able to get that podcast delivered to you.
So that’s a one like basic fallback step that we can take. It’s not the solution, but it’s a step away from that centralization of control. Learn about RSS and what it is and how it works. And suddenly even if they take the corporate report or Geopolitics & Empire or of Apple podcasts or whatever, you’ll still be able to get the podcast. Wouldn’t that be nice?
So steps like that. And then you build up from there. Okay, well they’re going to come after domains. So is there a way to because the domain name system is like the telephone, a book for the internet. If they take away the telephone book, I won’t be able to call corporate report.com.
Well, okay. So what can we do about that? There are decentralized domain ideas, the dot crypto addresses and others that are, do not rely on the DNS system and thus cannot be just scrubbed at the whim of a nation state. Things like that. But then, they’re going to come for the infrastructure of the worldwide web itself.
They’re going to make you scanned to get on the web. And so, okay. So can we bypass the ISPs? Can we go, do we need the worldwide web? What about IPFS or some of these other ways of connecting peer to peer? Like, the internet is supposed to be used, but we’ve all just been conditioned into thinking Facebook and TikTok are, is the internet, right? No, no, that is not the internet.
So we have to start learning about that. If you’re talking about vaccine mandates, I’ve done an entire post about different ways to protest or fight against or work around vaccine mandates. If you are talking about the CBDC agenda and digital currency and all of this.
I’ve talked about cash Fridays or Black Market Fridays, different ways to start increasing your… Decreasing your reliance on digital forms of exchange and increasing and your reliance on things like cash, which still exists for the time being.
And we can still use while we still have it, etcetera, etcetera. For everything that we have talked about today, there are things that are being done, there are people that are working on ideas. There are things that you can start implementing in your life today. The only question is, are you interested in that? And if you are then go out there and start finding and let me know about it too, because I’m always looking for ideas for solutions watch.
Geopolitics & Empire:
Yeah. No. You also did a episode on RSS, which I remember looking at. All right, apart from Corbettreport.com, is there any other website or project you’re working on that we should know about?
James Corbett:
I think that’s the place to go. And from there, you can find all of my minds and odyssey, and all my channels and everything, but just go to corbettreport.com for the time being that is the place to go. But also on the sidebar at the very bottom, there’s a Corbett report on IPFS where you can click and you can get the IPFS backup of the Corbett report site.
All of the audio and video is backed up. I believe it hasn’t backed up since last April because my site map broke, and I haven’t had time to fix it. I’m going to do that. And when it does it’ll update again. At any rate, if the corporate report suddenly disappeared overnight, well, at least all of the audio and video is backed up on IPFS.
Geopolitics & Empire:
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James Corbett:
Thank you for having me on and good luck for the podcast. I’m glad to see you growing and expanding what you do. I appreciate it.
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The Corbett Report is edited, webmastered, written, produced and hosted by James Corbett.
An award-winning investigative journalist, James Corbett has lectured on geopolitics at the University of Groningen’s Studium Generale, and delivered presentations on open source journalism at The French Institute for Research in Computer Science and Automation’s fOSSa conference, at TedXGroningen and at Ritsumeikan University in Kyoto.
He started The Corbett Report website in 2007 as an outlet for independent critical analysis of politics, society, history, and economics. Since then he has written, recorded and edited thousands of hours of audio and video media for the website, including a podcast and several regular online video series.
*Podcast intro music is from the song “The Queens Jig” by “Musicke & Mirth” from their album “Music for Two Lyra Viols”: http://musicke-mirth.de/en/recordings.html (available on iTunes or Amazon)


