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Vietnam veteran, author, and investor Bob Moriarty discusses the war in Ukraine, how the U.S. has been supporting Nazis since WWII, and that Russia is acting in self-defense. Zelensky is being run by the U.S. and Ukraine will end up being split into three pieces. Everything we’re seeing in regards to the collapsing economy and food and energy shortages is a result of The Great Reset. Bob believes Putin is not going along with the Davos project and that we’re witnessing the ultimate battle between good and evil. America is at the end of empire and we’re experiencing a worldwide revolution as the economy deteriorates which will last for years. Watch On BitChute / Brighteon / Rokfin / Rumble Geopolitics & Empire · Bob Moriarty: Ukraine Will Surrender & the Great Reset Will Fail #297 *Support Geopolitics & Empire! Become a Member https://geopoliticsandempire.substack.comDonate https://geopoliticsandempire.com/donationsConsult https://geopoliticsandempire.com/consultation **Visit Our Affiliates & Sponsors! Above Phone https://abovephone.com/?above=geopoliticseasyDNS (use code GEOPOLITICS for 15% off!) https://easydns.comEscape The Technocracy course (15% discount using link) https://escapethetechnocracy.com/geopoliticsPassVult https://passvult.comSociatates Civis (CitizenHR, CitizenIT, CitizenPL) https://societates-civis.comWise Wolf Gold https://www.wolfpack.gold/?ref=geopolitics Websites 321 Gold http://321gold.com 321 Energy http://321energy.com Robert Moriarty’s BOOKS https://www.amazon.com/Robert-Moriarty/e/B01A9I4TJU About Robert Moriarty Robert Moriarty was born in New York state in 1946. He began training as a military pilot in 1965 and became the youngest Naval Aviator during the Vietnam War in 1966. With two years in Vietnam and some 832 missions in combat, he left the Marine Corps in 1970. He worked in computers for a few years before beginning a 2nd career as a ferry pilot delivering small airplanes all over the world. He made over 240 ocean crossings mostly in single engine airplanes. He and his wife of 25 years were computer consultants and began one of the earliest online computer retail outlets in 1995 before retiring in 2000. He began another career running a financial website in 2001 specializing in resource companies. He continues to travel the world looking for the next great mineral discovery and writes in his spare time. *Podcast intro music is from the song “The Queens Jig” by “Musicke & Mirth” from their album “Music for Two Lyra Viols”: http://musicke-mirth.de/en/recordings.html (available on iTunes or Amazon)

Professor Darrell Hamamoto discusses the “iron law of oligarchy” and how the establishment hijacks and co-opts organic movements and ideas and then produces synthetic heroes (e.g. J.D. Vance). Part of the reformation of oligarchy is to continually identify talent that can be part of the oligarchy. The people who study us know there’s grassroots resentment so they concoct limited hangouts. But the iron law of oligarchy is not so iron. He calls his method of counter-politics “smut justice” which means being alert and using discernment to call out false heroes before they gain traction and attacking the fissures in the iron oligarchic system. Watch On BitChute / Brighteon / Rokfin / Rumble Geopolitics & Empire · Darrell Y. Hamamoto: Countering the Iron Law of Oligarchy & Their Limited Hangouts #296 *Support Geopolitics & Empire! Become a Member https://geopoliticsandempire.substack.comDonate https://geopoliticsandempire.com/donationsConsult https://geopoliticsandempire.com/consultation **Visit Our Affiliates & Sponsors! Above Phone https://abovephone.com/?above=geopoliticseasyDNS (use code GEOPOLITICS for 15% off!) https://easydns.comEscape The Technocracy course (15% discount using link) https://escapethetechnocracy.com/geopoliticsPassVult https://passvult.comSociatates Civis (CitizenHR, CitizenIT, CitizenPL) https://societates-civis.comWise Wolf Gold https://www.wolfpack.gold/?ref=geopolitics Websites YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnK9x-4e_BBOX5CRP1MBfiQ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/dyhamamoto Twitter https://twitter.com/DrSerizawa Books https://www.amazon.com/Servitors-Empire-Studies-Asian-America/dp/1937584860 Patreon https://www.patreon.com/bePatron?u=7792211 About Darrell Y. Hamamoto Darrell Y. Hamamoto, Ph.D. is Professor Emeritus at the University of California, Davis and author of seminal academic monographs and countless publications. A highly engaging lecturer as rated by students, Professor Hamamoto has established a new standard of excellence via Cultural Forensics® in his regularly-scheduled talks on YouTube. *Podcast intro music is from the song “The Queens Jig” by “Musicke & Mirth” from their album “Music for Two Lyra Viols”: http://musicke-mirth.de/en/recordings.html (available on iTunes or Amazon)

Lecturer Stuart Hooper takes an academic look at national and international elites. Individuals no longer matter in this mass society where all political parties have been captured. C. Wright Mills points out power is held in the economic, political, military establishments. America was founded by elites, but it isn’t until 1886 and the 14th Amendment when power is transferred from the political elites to the economic world. The postwar Military-Industrial-Complex became a self-reinforcing clique concerned with maintaining power. The iron law of oligarchy says that elites are always ready to justify despotic acts under the pretext they are done for the good of the public. The armed forces of the U.S. seem to have been captured by the transnational elite, used to destroy ideological and political forces not aligned with globalization. Fourth Industrial Revolution technologies are creating a command and control grid for the elite. Watch On BitChute / Brighteon / Rokfin / Rumble Geopolitics & Empire · Stuart J. Hooper: Elites Use U.S. Military to Destroy Forces Unaligned with Globalization #295 *Support Geopolitics & Empire! Become a Member https://geopoliticsandempire.substack.comDonate https://geopoliticsandempire.com/donationsConsult https://geopoliticsandempire.com/consultation **Visit Our Affiliates & Sponsors! Above Phone https://abovephone.com/?above=geopoliticseasyDNS (use code GEOPOLITICS for 15% off!) https://easydns.comEscape The Technocracy course (15% discount using link) https://escapethetechnocracy.com/geopoliticsPassVult https://passvult.comSociatates Civis (CitizenHR, CitizenIT, CitizenPL) https://societates-civis.comWise Wolf Gold https://www.wolfpack.gold/?ref=geopolitics Websites Twitter https://twitter.com/StuartJHooper YouTube https://www.youtube.com/c/StuartJHooper About Stuart J. Hooper Stuart J. Hooper is a Lecturer (ABD PhD, MA International Politics, MA Political Science) researching the Military Industrial Complex, Elites, War & Globalism. *Podcast intro music is from the song “The Queens Jig” by “Musicke & Mirth” from their album “Music for Two Lyra Viols”: http://musicke-mirth.de/en/recordings.html (available on iTunes or Amazon)

Professor William Robinson discusses the unprecedented systemic crisis of global capitalism which has brought about a global police state and global civil war. Years of turmoil are ahead of us as a crisis of chronic stagnation (over-accumulation) and state legitimacy has led to extreme repression in the face of acute inequality. The global economy and society has been militarized. Professor Robinson says the ruling groups are not omnipotent and are responding to the mass revolt from below. The pandemic allowed the transnational class to consolidate its grip on the global economy and form a Silicon Valley, Wall Street, Pentagon nexus. The pandemic served as a dry run for how digitalization is going to allow greater control over the working class. The transnational elite are united, including in Russia and China, in maximizing profit and keeping a clamp on rebellion from below. However, the global revolt is unprecedented in history and there is reason to be hopeful. Watch On BitChute / Brighteon / Rokfin / Rumble Geopolitics & Empire · William Robinson: Rise of the Global Police State & Global Civil War #294 *Support Geopolitics & Empire! Become a Member https://geopoliticsandempire.substack.comDonate https://geopoliticsandempire.com/donationsConsult https://geopoliticsandempire.com/consultation **Visit Our Affiliates & Sponsors! Above Phone https://abovephone.com/?above=geopoliticseasyDNS (use code GEOPOLITICS for 15% off!) https://easydns.comEscape The Technocracy course (15% discount using link) https://escapethetechnocracy.com/geopoliticsPassVult https://passvult.comSociatates Civis (CitizenHR, CitizenIT, CitizenPL) https://societates-civis.comWise Wolf Gold https://www.wolfpack.gold/?ref=geopolitics Websites Website https://robinson.faculty.soc.ucsb.edu Twitter https://twitter.com/w_i_robinson Facebook https://www.facebook.com/WilliamIRobinsonSociologist Global Civil War (BOOK) https://pmpress.org/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1264 Global Police State (BOOK) https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08GQ7S2B5/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i1 About William Robinson William Robinson is a professor of sociology at the University of California, Santa Barbara. He is also affiliated with the Latin American and Iberian Studies Program, and with the Global and International Studies Program at UCSB. His scholarly research focuses on: macro and comparative sociology, globalization and transnationalism, political economy, political sociology, development and social change, immigration, Latin America and the Third World, and Latina/o studies. As a scholar-activist he attempts to link his academic work to struggles in the United States, in the Americas, and around the world for social justice, popular empowerment, participatory democracy, and people-centered development. At his website you will find links to his curriculum vitae, several hundred captioned photos from his research and travels around the world, and sample syllabi from courses he teaches at UCSB. Also available on his site are downloadable PDF files for his out-of-print 1992 book, A Faustian Bargain and the 2007 Spanish language edition of his book on global capitalism, Una Teoria sobre el Capitalismo Global, as well as links to a variety of academic and global justice websites. *Podcast intro music is from the song “The Queens Jig” by “Musicke & Mirth” from their album “Music for Two Lyra Viols”: http://musicke-mirth.de/en/recordings.html (available on iTunes or Amazon)

Sean Stone discusses where we are in the New World Order and how the elites are now openly showing their hands full force. America and the world have always been at war with this imperial faction. We’re at the dawn of a new age where he’s optimistic and thinks people will not go along with The Great Reset. The NWO system doesn’t have the energy behind it and is collapsing. He feels the human spirit is so powerful that it’s overthrown every empire that’s come our way. His documentary series Best Kept Secret looks at the black economy and underbelly of geopolitics and empire (e.g. drug and human trafficking, pedophilia, occultism, mind control). Sean discusses the war on Russia via Ukraine and doesn’t feel we’ll end up with nuclear war, rather that Russia is the vanguard for the new alternative and multipolar world order. Watch On BitChute / Brighteon / Rokfin / Rumble Geopolitics & Empire · Sean Stone: The New World Order System Doesn’t Have the Energy Behind It to Succeed #293 *Support Geopolitics & Empire! Become a Member https://geopoliticsandempire.substack.comDonate https://geopoliticsandempire.com/donationsConsult https://geopoliticsandempire.com/consultation **Visit Our Affiliates & Sponsors! Above Phone https://abovephone.com/?above=geopoliticseasyDNS (use code GEOPOLITICS for 15% off!) https://easydns.comEscape The Technocracy course (15% discount using link) https://escapethetechnocracy.com/geopoliticsPassVult https://passvult.comSociatates Civis (CitizenHR, CitizenIT, CitizenPL) https://societates-civis.comWise Wolf Gold https://www.wolfpack.gold/?ref=geopolitics Websites Sean Stone Website https://www.seanstone.info Best Kept Secret documentary series https://www.seanstone.info/bestkeptsecret About Sean Stone Sean Christopher Ali Stone began his spiritual quest at 10 years old, when his father took him to Tibet, Nepal and India, to illuminate the stark contrast between those worlds, and Hollywood, where he had been a child-actor in Oliver Stone films like JFK, The Doors and Natural Born Killers. Sean took summer jobs for Jim Brown’s Amer-I-Can program and Save the Children while still in high school, then studied American History at Princeton University, and Oxford, before writing his Senior Thesis on the modern history of the New World Order, now available from TrineDay and Amazon. Sean began his own filmmaking career by apprenticing under his father on Alexander, shooting the behind-the-scenes documentary Fight Against Time. On the film W., Sean worked as an Editorial Consultant, and on the TV series The Untold History of the United States, as an Associate Editor. Sean Stone starred in and directed his first feature film Greystone Park in 2012, based on his real-life paranormal experiences in a haunted mental hospital.  In 2020, he published the cosmic fairy tale, Desiderata by Ali, now available from Blackstone and Audible. His most recent release is the poetry book The Ephemeral Shades of Time. His poetry was turned into an album on iTunes and Spotify, Alien Spirit featuring the music of Michel Huygen. Stone is a graduate of the Baron Brown Studio and has starred in multiple features including Night Walk, Union Bound, and Fury of the Fist and the Golden Fleece, which he also wrote. He has directed the documentaries A Century of War, Hollywood, D.C. and MetaHuman with Deepak Chopra. He also produced the documentary The Paradigm of Money about Wall Street corruption and collusion with the US government. His limited docuseries Best Kept Secret explores the dark side of the Western elite’s manipulation and control of humanity. His short films include Singularity, a dystopian warning about a plague that leads to a totalitarian surveillance state, as well as the short film Anaarkali with Bollywood star Javed Jaffrey, adapted from the fairy tale of a ‘kept woman’ seeking her independence in modern Mumbai.  Sean has hosted the reality show Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura, the interview program Buzzsaw, formerly on Gaia TV, and the RT news show Watching the Hawks. *Podcast intro music is from the song “The Queens Jig” by “Musicke & Mirth” from their album “Music for Two Lyra Viols”: http://musicke-mirth.de/en/recordings.html (available on iTunes or Amazon)

Guy Mettan discusses the deep thousand year history of Russophobia which informs the current Ukraine crisis. Europe had divided in two parts along religious lines which can still be seen in Ukraine today. He traces Russophobia from medieval Germany to France to Britain and back again to Germany and today the U.S. and EU. Brzezinski outlined the importance of conquering Ukraine because it’s the pivotal power of Europe. Ukraine is the first battle of the Third World War. It won’t be a total war, it will be a global unlimited war, unlimited in space and time where everybody will be affected. He agrees that there is a neo-totalitarian trend in the West and that democracy is a false flag. He’s pessimistic regarding the future development of our world as the U.S. and EU develop into a totalitarian new empire. But he’s optimistic that the light of the truth can’t be extinguished. 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Creating Russophobia: From the Great Religious Schism to Anti-Putin Hysteria, and Europe’s Existential Dilemma: To Be or Not to Be an American Vassal. Hello and welcome, Mr. Mettan. Guy Mettan: Hello. Good to see you. I’m happy to talk with you to today. Geopolitics & Empire: Yeah. Thank you for taking the time. I wanted to talk about both of your books and themes of what’s going on in Ukraine and the new cold war on Russia, as well as the EU project itself. And both are very important right now and interlinked. You’ve said the West has engaged in more or less violent hostilities for 1,000 years against Russia. And this is something no one seems to talk about today. People are forgetting. The media doesn’t talk about this. From Napoleon and Hitler to the US, EU, and NATO today, it’s clear much of the aggression, much of the time has come from the West against Russia. So, could you kind of help us understand the current conflict and what’s going on with Ukraine, the conflict, this war, and why Russia is so hated? Guy Mettan: Yeah. So, thank you for the question. It’s a very long story. As you said, it’s in my view, 1,000 years old story, because I think the roots of this conflict we can see now in Ukraine are very deeply rooted in history in Europe. In my view, everything has started with 1,200 years ago when a new emperor came into power here in Europe. The name of this emperor was Charlemagne, Charles the Great. And he was the first one, who was a German, and he was the first one to restore … He wanted to restore the old Roman Empire, which collapsed at the fifth century after Jesus Christ. This guy was a conqueror. He was a blood maker, if I can say, because he killed a lot of people to conquer his new stage in Germany. It was in South Germany and north of France, whose capital was Aix-la-Chapelle, Aachen now in Germany. This guy wanted to change the religion, because it was the Orthodox, religious at the time. Everybody was Orthodox in Europe or in the East, in Jerusalem, Turkey and so on, and Constantinople. This guy wanted to change the composition of the Trinity. You have the father, the son, and the Holy Spirit. He wanted to change a little bit the thing. It’s ideological fight for him in order to have a common ideology, new religious ideology for his states, but he could not succeed. He succeeded to become an emperor because the Pope … He had the Pope to reconquer the holy city in Rome. He could become emperor, but he could not change the religion. This change came one century, 50 years later, in the 10th century, when a new German prince called Otto was able also to gather European states and to create a new empire. It was the Holy Roman German Empire. And he wanted also to change the Holy German. He could not succeed at first. His successor was able to do it 50 years later, and it was the religious schism. We have told just a few minutes, which happened in the 11th century. Why this remembering of the history? Because this religious schism between Catholic, people who became Catholic, it was in the Western Europe and the Orthodox in the Eastern part of Europe. In Greece and Byzantine Empire was the first divide of Europe, of the Christian world, let’s say, in two parts. And now, we can still see that in Ukraine. For instance, in Ukraine, you have also the same division between the Uniates in Ukraine, in West Ukraine. These people are from Orthodox right, but they’re submitted to Catholic Pope in Rome. They depend on the Pope. And the Eastern part of Ukraine is still remain the state, pure Orthodox. You have this divide, this gap just in the middle of Ukraine. So, it’s a very 1,000 year history. We can see always today, until today, the importance of this topic even now in the modern Ukraine. I just mentioned that to remember how deep is this divide. Because after the collapse of the Greek Christianity, of the Eastern Christianity, the collapse of Constantinopolis, with Ottoman, with the Turks at the 15th century, the heritage of the Orthodox Christianity and the heritage of the Byzantine Empire was transferred to Moscow, because it was Moscow who take into account as the heritage. All this religious and political was the follow-up, if I can say. And the hate between Catholic and Orthodox was also transferred to the Russian after the collapse of the Byzantine. So, we can see how the hate of the Eastern, or the Orthodox has migrated during centuries. Sponsor: A message from our sponsors. It seems we’re headed for economic collapse, a dystopian social credit system, even another world war. As a long time expat myself, I’ve secured multiple passports, getaway locations, foreign financial accounts, and escaped to the sunnier shores of Mexico. 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So, hurry and visit nomos.net before they roll out the cashless society and put you in the algorithm ghetto. And don’t forget to fund Geopolitics & Empire. You can leave a donation, except on Patreon or PayPal, which have banned us. Book a consultation, or become a member. Guy Mettan: It’s interesting also to notice, but in the modern times, in the late 18th century, it was the French king, Louis XV who rediscover, if I can say, the Russophobia, because he married a Polish princess. So, he take the Polish view of the world very anti-Russian in his mind. And this guy has heard a fake document called the fake testament of Peter the Great. Saw Peter the Great. It was completely fake, but for this fake paper, he was saying that the mission of the Tsar, of the heirs of Peter the Great was to conquer Europe, France, Germany, Italy and so on. Completely fake, but Napoleon, because Napoleon was angry with the Tsar. They were friends, but after the divide, the conflict. Napoleon rediscovered this fake document and he published it in 1812, because he wanted to make a war against the Tsar, Alexander I and has to justify to find the reason or to invent a reason. So, he published this fake testament saying, “Oh, look, the mission, the historical missions of the Tsar is to conquer Germany, France, and all Europe. So, we have to make, as a French power, to make a preemptive war against Russia in order to stop them, to conquer them. We have to attack Russia at first before they will attack us and conquer us.” And it was the Napoleon expedition in Russia. Unfortunately, for Napoleon, he was beaten. He was defeated and he has to surrender. That’s the emerging of the modern Russophobia through the French King and after the French Emperor, Napoleon. Maybe I am too long, but this forged document, this fake testament was after the Napoleonic Wars. It was translated into English by the British ideologues, the British imperialist just after the Treaty of Vienna in 1815, after 1815. And why? Because after Napoleon was defeated, there were two victory nations. One was Great Britain with Nelson. The Battle of Trafalgar, and General Wilmington. And the other victor power was Russia with Tsar Alexander. So, two victors. The British were very happy. Then the Russian were helping them to defeat Napoleon. But after the victory, it was a problem for them, because they didn’t wish to share the victory with the Russian. So, they started to develop a new Russophobia inside within Great Britain. That’s the reason why they translated the fake testament of Peter the Great for saying to the British public opinion. “Oh, look. Look at this document. The Russian, maybe they help us to fight against Napoleon. But now, their will to conquer, their will to be expansionist. So, we have also to defend ourself and to make the war with them.” And they did it during the … We can see when we read, for instance, The Times newspaper or London Times and so on saying this kind of forgery becoming more and more successful with some cartoons, designing Tsar as a vampire with big teeth. You can see London Tower or London St Paul Cathedral with the vampire flying on London with big teeth to suck the poor British citizen. So, that kind of propaganda, and it was quite successful. Because what happened in 1853, the British, with the help of the French, they invaded Russia and they made the first Crimean War in 1853, during two, three years. It was big war, quite an important war, because it was also kind of with the help of Turkey. Also, three, four countries against Russia, as we can see now. So, not yet NATO, but the same partners, if we can say that. So, we can say this Russophobia migrating from France to Great Britain. And it’s also funny to remark the Dracula. The Dracula, the novel of Dracula. The book was written in 70 years. It was 1878, I think, the first publication. Dracula was the caricature of the Tsar. Because at that time, that time, the Carpathian place where Dracula was supposed to leave belonged to the Russian Empire. So, it was a propaganda novel against the Russian. We have forgotten that now, because now Romania is no more Russia. But at the time, it was written, this Dracula book, just as a propaganda tool against the Russian by the British imperialist from the 19th century. And after that, we can see that the Russophobia migrated from Great Britain to Germany. Why? Because at the end of the 19th century, the German Empire was built after the victory against France, and the Versailles, the Chateau de Versailles in 1870. At the time, 20 years later, Germany was completely built up. The empire was completely integrated and the German emperor has observed. “Okay, we have the empire. We are the first power in Continental Europe, but we have no colonies. So, it’s unjust, because everybody in the world has colonies in Africa, in Asia and so on, but we have nothing. The Spanish, Latin America, the British, and the French Africa, the Holland as Indonesia, Malaysia, but we have nothing. But everything is occupied. We have something, maybe some countries in Africa, but that’s not enough.” And they developed the idea of German expansion in the Eastern Europe, in Ukraine and in Russia. And that’s why they developed a new kind of German Russophobia saying, “Oh, our Lebensraum, our vital space will be in Eastern Europe.” And we can see the German propagandist, the German ideologist, the German geopolitician developing this Drang nach Osten in German language. This push to the East to translate. Drang nach Osten, in Ukraine and German. The German Emperor tried to do it during the First World War, and Hitler took the same ideas and transformed that into a racist one. And he tried to do it during the Second World War, but unfortunately, Germany or Nazi Germany was defeated in 1945. So, the dream of Hitler collapsed by chance, and it collapsed thanks to the Soviets, thanks to the Russians, the USSR. In 1945, we have exactly the same pictures as we had in 1850, after the Napoleonic Wars. We have two big victors, the victory powers. One was United States, and the other one, the Russia, the Communist Russia, the USSR. And exactly the same thing happened after 1945, because the United States were very happy to see that the Soviet has defeated Hitler with 26 millions people dead, with 26 million victims in Soviet, and only 200,000 American soldiers who died in the war. So, the main Victor power against Hitler was not United States, but USSR early in the figures. Geopolitics & Empire: Yep. I wanted to jump a bit forward. You’re one of the few that really lays out this foundation. This is crucial, I think, to understand. No one is talking about this. It’s just, in many ways, history repeating itself, empire and these different cycles. Then just kind of to jump forward to today. Many people know. It’s well known and we don’t need to get into … If we go from the 2000s until today, what’s happening. The 2004, we had the orange color revolution. In 2014, we had the Maidan Coup where Canada, and US, and all these NGOs basically took control of Ukraine, and they’ve been using it as a battering ram to go for Russia. We see the Rand Corporation in 2019 white paper. It seems like they really want to try to destroy Russia again and subjugated completely. And then to get your thoughts on today, 2022, how you see the events in Ukraine. For a while, my view is … In your books, you’ve talked about Yugoslavia as well. I’m Croatian. As a child, I spend 1994 in Croatia during part of the war. And I feel that Ukraine right now will … The West wants Ukraine, the war to continue. It will become like a Yugoslavia, like situation where it will go on for years, but it seems like they are willing to risk world war. Again, what are your thoughts on what’s happening today, the situation in Ukraine? Guy Mettan: Yeah. Just to finish in one minute. After 1945, we have this United States and USSR as victor. But what happened, United States didn’t want to share the victor with the USSR, and they started the Cold War against communists. And what happened 40 years later in the end of the ’80s, when the USSR collapsed, disappeared, normally that they should … And NATO, because NATO was built against Soviet, against the communist, against the Soviet state, but as soon as the Soviet state disappeared, collapsed, there were no more ground for maintaining NATO, but it didn’t happen. Why? Because even if United States was the victor power of the Cold War, it was not enough for them, because they started what we call the globalization. And to ensure the US, Germany on the world, there were still a big stone in the shoe that was still Russia. Even if Russia was poor with the Yeltsin time in the ’90s, were very economically depressed and so on, but it was not enough for United States to get this still very big country alive. They tried, as you said, as you mentioned, not to close NATO but to develop it. To develop it. Because 1991, there were only 15 countries member of NATO. And today, there are 30 countries. So, the trouble in a peace time when the enemy disappeared, collapsed. Despite of that NATO doubled. So, that’s because United States wanted absolutely to contain Russian threat and everything, and started from there. Because when Yeltsin passed away and Putin came into power, restore, rebuilt the Russian economy, making Russia strong again with an army, with pretty strong economy and so on, it was unacceptable for the United States. That’s why they continued, they followed the development of NATO and also the containment of Russia. It was President Bush. The Brzezinski book, The Great Chessboard, written in 1997 saying, “Oh, we have to conquer Ukraine, because Ukraine is the pivotal power in Europe. We, absolutely, have to conquer Ukraine. Because if Ukraine remain in the Russian orbit, in the Russian sphere of influence, it will bring too big power, give too big power to Russia, so we have to take it in order to cut the influence of Russia, the power of Russia in Western Europe.” That was the purpose of Madeleine Albright, Brzezinski, Wolfowitz, all the neoconservatives at the time. And they just applied the plan. They just realized the plan. The plan they conceived in the ’90s. And step by step, it was built. The first big friction, if I can say, happened in 2006 when George W. Bush announced at NATO Summit in 2006, the first time he expressed the idea that Ukraine and Georgia could be member of NATO. It was a red line for the Russian. And just a few months later in 2007, President Putin at the Munich Conference on security said very firmly. “We cannot accept that Ukraine and Georgia will belong to NATO, because for us, it’s just a question of existential. It’s a vital problem for us, so it’s a red line. We cannot accept that.” It was the first time, so 15 years ago that Putin said that to the Western countries, to the NATO countries, but it was not heard, not at all. Because what happened a few months after the Munich Conference in April 2008, the NATO Summit officially invited Ukraine and Georgia. Opened the door to Ukraine and Georgia. And just after that, four months later, in August 2008, United States supported the attack of Georgia in Ossetia against Russia, if you remember. In August 2008, when Putin was participating to the opening ceremony of the Beijing Olympic games, the Georgian has seized the opportunity saying, “Oh, Putin is in Beijing. The Russian are probably drinking some vodka, so we can attack.” Because they got the permission of the United States, of their supporter. And they did it, but unfortunately for them, Russian were very, very attentive and they were awake and they have beaten the Georgian. We can see this progressive aggressivity from NATO supported by United States against Russia. And after you have the Maidan coup and Russia. Geopolitics & Empire: And where do you think this will lead? I mean, we have even Lavrov recently talking about the threat of World War III. We’ve got the West, we’ve got commentators in the US insisting on direct conflict with Russia. They’re sending arms. I think this week, I think the Congress just approved a lot of money. Guy Mettan: Yeah. No, you are quite right. Just to explain, I insist a little bit on history even if it is not very popular, but I think it would be interesting just to see how deep is this divide, and why the fight. Why the war we can see now in Ukraine is something very deep in the guts, if I can say. Of the Ukrainian people, of the West, but also for the Russian, obviously, but you are right. We are not in the New Cold War. We are in a new Third World War, if I can say, with this Ukrainian fight. I don’t think it will world war, total war with nuclear strikes and so on, because every party is aware of the risk, of the dangers of a nuclear war, but it will be a global war, implying all the countries, all the world in it. First, the Europeans, the Americans, the NATO, with Canada, Japan, and all the allies of United States, and the European world, the Western world, but also China, India, and the non-allied countries. Everybody will be impacted by this war, as we can say, because of energy, of fertilizer, of wheat and agricultural production and so on. Prices going up and so on. So, for me, it’s the first battle of the Third World War, if I can say. This war is original, if I can say, is local between Ukraine and Russia for the domination or for the liberation of the Donbas and the Russian speaking people in Ukraine, in the Eastern Ukraine. But it’s also a global unlimited war. I prefer to speak of unlimited war, not total because it’s unlimited in space, as with all the world will take part, if I can say, from one step. Depend economically. Not, obviously, military, but also economically and so on. Unlimited in space, but unlimited also in time, because I don’t think this war will finish now. I think the peace is now impossible between the two camps after the Bucha affair. Bucha supposed crimes of war, crimes against humanity, genocide, Joe Biden said. I think it’s impossible to make peace, because the hatred, the hate between the two is so high that now it’s impossible. I live in Geneva, Switzerland. Even in Switzerland, because this Bucha affair was created, it was a [foreign language 00:34:06]. In English, it was not fake because all these people died from the war. Geopolitics & Empire: Would you say false flag operation? Guy Mettan: Yes, exactly. False flag operation, that kind of thing. A scenery. It was created in order to make the public opinion in the Western country, in Ukraine, for sure, but also in Western country. So, historically, anti-Russian, just to impede any chance, to break any chance of peace. To make this war unlimited in the time. Same for the Russian. Because now, in the Donbas, in the parts of Ukraine, let’s say occupied or liberated by the Russian, Kherson in south, it’s impossible to come back into a Ukrainian government. Because with this Azov battalions, with this far white or Neo-Nazi people, they will kill everybody. If they win, they will kill everybody now, because everybody in that parts of Ukraine will be suspected of betrayal or to be of the accomplice of the Russian, and they will be killed. So, it’s the division, the separation of Ukraine in two parts now is done. And it’s impossible to come back to the old, unified Ukraine because of that. So, it’s unlimited in space, in time, and also in the team, because it involves all the aspects of the human activities. It will be a military war. It will be an economic war. It will be a cultural war, as we can say, with the tradition of the Dostoevsky, Tchaikovsky, all the Russian authors and writers and in the West. So, it’s a cultural war. It’s also religious war, as I explained in the beginning of this talk, and it’s also propaganda war and information war. Because propaganda is very strong on both sides. It’s a kind of a multi-specters, if I can say war. So, that’s why it will not end in the coming months, even in the coming years. All what we can hope is to have a kind of frozen conflict, but peace, I think, will not happen before years and years. Geopolitics & Empire: I would agree with you. I wanted to get your thought on the information war aspect. I mean, you’ve worked as a journalist and in media for many years. I’m a Croatian citizen. I’m an American, so I’m a European American. We’re told that the West is this democratic space, freedom, and all of this. Now, I’m experiencing that it’s a total lie. The West is becoming totalitarian. In your book, you’ve said the West is not the most beautiful in the world. The censorship is insane. Last year, I was terminated from Patreon, which was one way for people to send me money to do this broadcast. Two weeks ago, the Department of Homeland Security in America created The Ministry of Truth like in 1984. The Disinformation Governance Board. That same week, I was banned from PayPal. And just yesterday Spotify, one of the most popular podcast channels, started taking down episodes of my podcast. You’ve talked about journalists paralyzed by the fear of losing their jobs. It’s crazy what’s happening in America and Europe. They’ve taken down Russia Today channels. And my own government and these American companies are censoring me, an American, just for having a podcast, just for talking. Having conversations with people like yourself. What do you make of this in the West? Guy Mettan: No. But for me, I was surprised. Not exactly surprised, because I think it’s already 10 years or 15 years trend. This new or neo-totalitarian trend, as we can say. It happens since a few years with the fact checkers and the debunkers, which are just the police of the net. Sorry, but the Gestapo of the net. These guys are not there to make the real facts existing or to show the reality. They are just there to make the police and to impede the people like you or me who are trying to give a broader view of the situation, let’s say. Because as a journalist, what I try to do is not to say Putin is right or Russia is good, because it’s not the news. It’s not interesting. It’s just to say, “Please have a broader vision of the world. Look at all the situation. Look at the whole picture. Not only a small part as it is shown by the Western media, the Western press and so on.” So, we live now in such a propagandistic information war. It’s very hard for you, for me to exist. Because you mentioned the democracy, for me, it’s just a false flag, the democracy, or the human rights, because the Western powers have always democracy and human rights in the mouth, on the lips. All the time they mention, “Oh, we are fighting for democracy and human rights.” That’s not true. We have seen what was signification, the meaning of democracy in Yugoslavia, in Syria, in bombing Iraq two times, bombing Afghanistan, invasion of Libya and so on. It was not to bring the democracy. It was to bring the cause, because all these countries are living in full cause. So, it’s no democracy at all. And in the same time, we are supporting Saudi Arabia, which is not precisely a model of democracy, so that’s just fake. But it’s double standard. Speech is playing well, because it’s convincing the Western public opinion that the right is with them, with us, if we can say. That’s not true, but it functions. What I try to do as a journalist is to keep borderline, if I can say. I try to wide in the official or mainstream newspaper regularly not to be expelled, if I can say. As a complotist, as, I don’t know, fact … Yes, complotist or … Geopolitics & Empire: They say conspiracy theorist, right? Conspiracy. Guy Mettan: Yes. Conspiracy theorist and so on. So, just to keep the line, just at the border, at the limit, if I can say, in order to keep audible, if I can say. I am a pessimistic about the future development of our world into a totalitarian new empire, if I can say. But I am also optimistic because I think the light of the truth, even if it is small, even if it is only a candle, let’s say like that, this brings light. And if you can have some truth, this truth will be repeated maybe with few people, but the rumor of truth will also expand. I like to make a comparison. Also, sorry for you, but with the history. In the beginnings of the Christian times, in the Roman Empire, these Christians were the dissidents of the time. They were against the mainstream imperial Rome. They have to live in catacombs. They have to hide themselves in forest, in poor place in the cities. A little bit like us today as a minority, but they won. Because years after years, they were able to expand this small light to more and more people. So, I think it’s the duty we have to maintain this light enlightened, if I can say, even if it is not so … We are not gifted, or we are not rewarded for that. Geopolitics & Empire: It’s the first time I’ve heard it put the way that you have put it, and it actually gives me optimism that, as you say, even if the truth is just one candle left, I don’t think it can ever be fully removed. And that gives us optimism to keep on going and keep doing what we are doing. I’m also in agreement with you. I’m very pessimistic about the future. I feel much of the world is moving towards a totalitarianism, a brave new world. You talk about the US transitioning from an imperial republic towards a new empire. If we use the example of Europe, your second book, we don’t have too much time to fully get into it. I recommend people buy your books, but to talk about Europe. I’ve interviewed Voltaire Network’s, Thierry Meyssan not long ago. He said that he believed one of the purposes of Ukraine, the conflict was for the US to weaken the EU and Europe, not to allow it strategic economy so it would remain under the American empire’s wing. As well, I questioned the roots of the … Guy Mettan: Exactly what I explained in my book. Yes. To make Europe as a vassal of United States, a pure vassal. Yeah. Geopolitics & Empire: Yeah. I’ve always questioned the roots of the EU. In your book, you talk about … You have a chapter called European Technocratic Dictatorship. You quote, “What if the plans for Europe imagined under the Nazi occupation were the unsettling pre-history of our democratic European construction?” Soviet dissidents such as Bukovsky who you cite have dubbed the EU the new European Soviet. Even now, I just read this week, the EU wants to create a total surveillance of all of our emails and phone chats, so you will have no privacy, and so it’s really not looking good. What re your thoughts on the EU? Guy Mettan: No. I was a supporter of EU 40 years ago, because 40 years ago, yes, it was, in my view, a solution against the civil wars in Europe and so on. But after the collapse of USSR from the ’90s, the soul of Europe has completely changed. Has shifted into a neoliberal power in arts, economy, center, the institution of organization. It was an economic totalitarianism, neoliberal, or ultra-liberal, ultra-capitalist. And now, it’s shifted into a political one, ideological one, information war one. It will not stop, because with the development of the oligarchies, of the oligarchs. We say, “Oh, there is oligarchs in Russia.” But the oligarchs are between us, at home. And this social class will never leave the power, will never abandon the power. So, it will happen exactly during what happened in the Roman times with the development of transformation of the Roman Republic 2,000 years ago into an empire, the totalitarian empire. It’s exactly what we can see now. Europe is following this path under the United States umbrella. I was hoping, dreaming that Europe could resist to that, could transform itself not into a vassal of the United States, but as an autonomous, an independent, neutral organization or continent able to make the balance between United States and China. United States and China are the two rising powers, if I can say, so we need for the security of the world. We need a third power. It could be Europe. Just to bring a kind of balance between the two. Because if we are only two competitors, probably one time, they will make a war between them. But if you have multi-polar world as Russia, also West, but also the countries like India, like Brazil, or Europe. If Europe could play this role of third part kind of arbiter, or kind of counter balancing power between China and Europe, the world would become much more secure. But unfortunately, this is not what Europe is doing. As we can say in the Ukraine war, Europe has taken side with United States. It’s even more historical than the Americans in that conflict. Europe want more sanctions, deliver more weapons to the Ukrainians. So, it’s completely crazy for me. That’s why I am very pessimistic about the destiny of my continent, if I can say. Geopolitics & Empire: I would agree with you. And just along those lines, I see some contradictions. Not in what you’re saying, but I’m making observations where in your book you’ve talked about Europe being solely on the way to third-worldization. That the day is perhaps not far off, because there’s this huge inequality. We’re seeing it globally. We’re seeing it in the US, here in Mexico. I mean, the economy globally is just declining and it’s like the middle class is being wiped out and we’ve got the ultra elites, oligarchs, as you say, and this … Guy Mettan: And the quality of the infrastructures, the railroad, towards the schooling also, it’s collapsing. The level of the schooling of the education is collapsing in the Western world. You can see now that Korean, the Indians are better in mathematics, in physics, and many science better than us, because the level is going down. That’s also a bad sign for the future. Geopolitics & Empire: Yeah, I would agree. I mean, I worked in education for more than a decade in Kazakhstan. I was working here in Mexico. Just to kind of get your view on where … And you say that history shows us that there are two alternatives. Both are disastrous that the decline of the republic and its transformation into a repressive totalitarian regime. As you said, the EU and America as well. A lot of people say the US empire is declining, collapsing, the dollar is losing its status. In the West and EU, there’s talk of them declining economically, collapsing, even civil war. Yet at the same time, you talk about this new empire rising, and I’m trying to understand. I can see both. I can see in one way, the Western empire does seem to be strong, but at the same time, there are a lot of these cracks appearing. How do you evaluate that? Guy Mettan: Yeah. No, that’s apparently contradictory. We have an expansion of the empire, and also a kind of internal collapse. But what happens when such an evolution can be observed, it’s a kind of militarization of the empire, because you need more and more police. You need more and more army in order to maintain the angry citizens. The [foreign language 00:53:36], for instance, in France, because the social classes who are excluded from the prosperity. Prosperity is stolen by the upper class. So, these people are more and more angry because they have no chance of development for their children. They have less and less medical care. They have less money and so on. So, in order to keep these people quiet, you need strong police or strong army, because police and army, it’s just the two legs of the same security state. Since 9/11, we are still living in our countries in the West in more and more policy or police states. Geopolitics & Empire: Police states. Yeah. Guy Mettan: Yes, exactly. And we have, for instance, emergency. We are living on emergency state because the parliament have voted emergency laws because of terrorists, war against terrorists. Now, it’s war against Russia. It was war against COVID-19. Every two years or every three years, we have a new war against a new enemy because you need an enemy to strengthen the police and to make the citizen just quiet and obey for you. Well, that’s the future I am fearing for us in the coming years. But let’s keep optimistic too, because we have to keep the world, we have to open the … Yeah. Geopolitics & Empire: Just one more comment on that. Just got another question or two left. Guy Mettan: Yeah. Geopolitics & Empire: Next week, I’ll be speaking to Professor William Robinson who has a book about the global police state. You’ve mentioned in your book like these digital technologies, the fourth industrial revolution, it seems that they will try to use some of these digital technologies to try to control us. EU is now creating this digital ID, this digital passport. We saw during the pandemic, you were not allowed to go into some countries like supermarkets or travel without your phone with the passport. What are your thoughts on this? It’s like a Chinese social credit system. Any thoughts on these digital technologies that will be used to control us? Guy Mettan: You know, that’s exactly the point, because we like to denounce the police state of the Chinese, but we are applying exactly the same receipts. That’s the problem. That’s the problem. I am a supporter because I met Julian Assange twice. He came in 2010 in the Swiss Press Club when I was the director. And in 2015, I visited him in his Ecuadorian embassy in London, so I met him twice. I am a big supporter, because he was the first one after it was, first, Snowden did the same a few years later. But Assange was the first whistle blower saying, “Pay attention. We are living in a new surveillance world.” He was quite right. He said that 30 years ago, 12 years ago. Now, we are just seeing exactly what he has announced 12 years ago, just in our life, just today with the QR code and everything. And also the phone, everything is under control, and we have no more privacy. That’s finished for a long time. But I am sure we will find underground way to survive or to go behind the obstacle or upon the obstacle. Yeah. I don’t know how. I don’t know yet how and when, but we will do it Geopolitics & Empire: Like the Christians in the catacombs. Guy Mettan: Exactly. Geopolitics & Empire: Yeah. Go ahead. Guy Mettan: You know what I think? What is important for me when we are a few people to say that, it’s important for me to get personal links, to make a community. Because why? For me, the early Christians could survive, because they were very strong as a community. They share not only the values and the religion and so on, but they share a deep sense of community, of human relations, let’s say like that. That’s very important, because if you feel completely alone in your office, even I am feeling completely alone in my small place in Geneva, I am completely lost. But if we can talk as we are doing now, we create a community. Other people will join. Maybe not a lot, but supporting. And I think that’s really important. It’s like the candlelight. These people, this new regime is trying to do is to destroy the human community, the human being. If we are able to maintain, we will win one day. Geopolitics & Empire: That’s what they tried to do the last two years with this biosecurity state. Social distancing, isolate everyone, lockdown, which is a prison term. So, if you have any final thought for us. As you said, how do citizens prepare for the tough times ahead, resisting tyranny, fighting for a better future, better Europe, better world? I think you already gave the key advice, which was keep telling the truth, hold onto that little candle and community. I think that’s one of the most important things. Guy Mettan: Yes. Keep the truth alive together, if I can say. Yeah. Geopolitics & Empire: All right. I really haven’t found much presence of you online. Where are the best places to find you online, or what books, or projects that should we know about? Guy Mettan: [inaudible 01:00:31] I’m not very active online, because I am more writer, so I write articles. I publish articles in the papers, but I have not so many podcasts to be Frank. And unfortunately, they are in French until now. But as you can say, my English is not so good, but I try. It’s not so good, so I have to improve it to make some podcast in English. But thanks to you. I will try to do that. Geopolitics & Empire: No problem there. My French is absolutely horrible. You’ve got a few books in English. I think we can get them from Clarity Press or Amazon. Guy Mettan: Yes. You mentioned Creating Russophobia and Europe’s Existential Dilemma for the moment in English. They’ve been published in China too, in Russia. The first one also in Sweden, in Italy and other countries, but only two in English for now, but we will continue anyway. Geopolitics & Empire: Yes. Keep on fighting the good fight. And again, I would tell everyone to buy Guy Mettan’s books. The links will be in the description from Clarity Press, Amazon, or wherever. Merci for being on Geopolitics & Empire. Guy Mettan: Thank you for you, and please keep in touch so we can exchange as you like, as often as you wish. Great pleasure for me. Outro: I hope you enjoyed this Geopolitics & Empire podcast. 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Award-winning cartoonist Bob Moran discusses how he was fired from The Daily Telegraph for speaking out against government biosecurity measures. He gives his view on the past two years of medical tyranny, “waking up” and going down the rabbit hole. It’s obvious to see who is behind all of this, the usual suspects, politicians backed by Klaus Schwab and powerful families. We talk about the psychology of the Covidian Cult. The Powers That Be are going to see this through, they are going to push us back into COVID1984. He feels there is some kind of agreement between all governments. You can’t drive humanity into a dystopian technocracy in two years, they take their foot off the gas after awhile, assess where they are, and then they come back again. Bob feels there is a darker motivation behind all of this. He talks about his art and the road ahead. Watch On BitChute / Brighteon / Rokfin / Rumble Geopolitics & Empire · Bob Moran: They Are Going To See COVID1984 Through #291 *Support Geopolitics & Empire! Become a Member https://geopoliticsandempire.substack.comDonate https://geopoliticsandempire.com/donationsConsult https://geopoliticsandempire.com/consultation **Visit Our Affiliates & Sponsors! Above Phone https://abovephone.com/?above=geopoliticseasyDNS (use code GEOPOLITICS for 15% off!) https://easydns.comEscape The Technocracy course (15% discount using link) https://escapethetechnocracy.com/geopoliticsPassVult https://passvult.comSociatates Civis (CitizenHR, CitizenIT, CitizenPL) https://societates-civis.comWise Wolf Gold https://www.wolfpack.gold/?ref=geopolitics Websites Website https://www.bobmoran.co.uk Twitter https://twitter.com/bobscartoons Telegram https://t.me/bobmoran Facebook https://www.facebook.com/bobscartoons Instagram https://www.instagram.com/bobmoran_artist About Bob Moran Bob Moran is a multi-award winning British illustrator and cartoonist. His work deals with themes of politics, ethics and family. He uses emotion to convey important messages, defend moral principles and to invite people to reflect on what really matters in life. Between 2011 and 2021, Bob was political cartoonist for The Daily Telegraph. During this time, he established himself as one of the most revered and popular satirists in the UK. His beautiful artwork and cutting commentary has brought him international acclaim and numerous awards, from organisations such as The Foreign Press Association and The Cartoon Arts Trust. In 2020, as the Coronavirus crisis unfolded, Bob adopted a position of staunch opposition to all government measures and restrictions. He believed what was happening was immoral, unlawful and unnecessary. Through his cartoons, he asked people to contemplate the inevitable consequences of how governments around the world were behaving. In particular, he tried to highlight the horrific impact on children and the future society being created for them. In January 2022 Bob began working for The Democracy Fund, a Canadian charity that defends and promotes civil liberties and constitutional rights. This gave Bob the creative freedom he needed and he hopes his artwork can reach as many people as possible, in as many countries as possible. Bob produces three artworks every week that are available to download, free of charge, to any newspaper, magazine or online publication anywhere in the world. During a very dark period for humanity, Bob seeks to create powerful imagery that brings hope and reassurance to the oppressed, in defiance of their oppressors. At a time when so many appear to have forgotten the things that give life meaning, he is determined to help them remember. *Podcast intro music is from the song “The Queens Jig” by “Musicke & Mirth” from their album “Music for Two Lyra Viols”: http://musicke-mirth.de/en/recordings.html (available on iTunes or Amazon)

Canadian activist and author Yves Engler discusses how he recently interrupted talks by the Canadian Foreign Minister and Deputy Prime Minister to call them out for attempting to start WWIII by helping NATO use Ukraine as a proxy against Russia. Canada has massively increased military spending and devoted $590 million for weapons to Ukraine. He considers the Russian invasion to be both rational and imperialistic. Canada has been a proponent of anti-Russian nationalist forces in Ukraine since before Ukraine’s independence from the Soviet Union. During the 2004 Orange Revolution the Canadian Ambassador openly admitted they were coordinating the opposition in Ukraine. The Canadian government played a key role in the 2014 coup, where protestors used the Canadian Embassy. It’s said that a former Canadian defense minister is the godfather of the modern Ukrainian military. He’s not seeing an off-ramp to the conflict. The media is completely pushing the drumbeats of war. 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Yves was born in Vancouver to left-wing parents who were union activists and involved in international solidarity, feminist, anti-racist, peace and other progressive movements. In addition to marching in demonstrations he grew up playing hockey. He was a peewee teammate of former NHL star Mike Ribeiro at Huron Hochelaga in Montréal before playing in the B.C. Junior League. Yves first became active in Canadian foreign policy issues in the early 2000s. Initially focused on anti-corporate globalization organizing, the year he was an elected vice president of the Concordia Student Union Benjamin Netanyahu was blocked from speaking at the university to protest Israel’s war crimes and anti-Palestinian racism. The protests sparked a massive backlash against student activism on campus — including Yves’ expulsion from the university for attempting to take his elected position with the student union while banned from campus for his supposed role in what the administration described as a riot — and claims from supporters of the Israeli prime minister that Concordia was a hotbed of anti-Semitism. Later in the school year the US invaded Iraq. In the lead-up to the war Yves helped mobilize students to attend a number of massive antiwar demonstrations. But it was only after Ottawa helped overthrow the democratically elected Haitian government in 2004 that Yves began to seriously question Canada’s peacekeeper self-image. As he learned about Canada’s contribution to violent, anti-democratic policies in Haiti, Yves began to directly challenge this country’s foreign policy. Over the next three years he traveled to Haiti and helped organize dozens of marches, talks, actions, press conferences, etc. critical of Canada’s role in the country. During a June 2005 press conference on Haiti Yves poured fake blood on foreign affairs minister Pierre Pettigrew’s hands and yelled “Pettigrew lies, Haitians die”. He later spent five days in jail for disrupting a speech by Prime Minister Paul Martin on Haiti (the government sought to keep him in jail for the entire six weeks election campaign). Yves also co-authored Canada in Haiti: Waging War Against the Poor Majority and helped establish the Canada Haiti Action Network. As the situation in Haiti stabilized Yves began reading everything he could find about Canadian foreign policy, which culminated in the Black Book of Canadian Foreign Policy. This research also began a process that led to his other books. Ten of his twelve titles are about Canada’s role in the world. In recent years Yves has sought to mobilize activists to confront politicians through peaceful, direct action. He has interrupted about two dozen speeches/press conferences by the prime minister, ministers and opposition party leaders to question their militarism, anti-Palestinian positions, climate policies, imperialism in Haiti and efforts to topple Venezuela’s government. Yves played an important role in the successful campaign to oppose Canada’s bid for a seat on the United Nations Security Council. He is a founder of the Canadian Foreign Policy Institute. Due to his writing and activism Yves has repeatedly been criticized by representatives of the Conservatives, Liberals, Greens and NDP. *Podcast intro music is from the song “The Queens Jig” by “Musicke & Mirth” from their album “Music for Two Lyra Viols”: http://musicke-mirth.de/en/recordings.html (available on iTunes or Amazon)

Dr. Jessica Rose discusses the fraud we’ve all experienced over the past few years in relation to the pandemic. The data shows negative efficacy regarding the COVID19 vaccine, meaning that it’s actually hurting you. If they can lie about issues surrounding COVID19 so easily, then what have they been lying about the whole time? She goes into the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) and how the adverse event and death reports related to COVID19 injections are off the chart. The FDA and CDC are not even looking at the data. She believes the vaccine is a segueway into introducing new injection platforms, normalizing injections, and digitizing the human. She agrees the goal of the Vaccine Passports is to install the Social Credit System. The WHO Pandemic Treaty will be the total loss of sovereignty for all countries and individuals. That’s the end. Watch On BitChute / Brighteon / Rokfin / Rumble Geopolitics & Empire · Dr. Jessica Rose: COVID Vaccines to Digitize Human, Pandemic Treaty Total Loss of Sovereignty #289 *Support Geopolitics & Empire! Become a Member https://geopoliticsandempire.substack.comDonate https://geopoliticsandempire.com/donationsConsult https://geopoliticsandempire.com/consultation **Visit Our Affiliates & Sponsors! Above Phone https://abovephone.com/?above=geopoliticseasyDNS (use code GEOPOLITICS for 15% off!) https://easydns.comEscape The Technocracy course (15% discount using link) https://escapethetechnocracy.com/geopoliticsPassVult https://passvult.comSociatates Civis (CitizenHR, CitizenIT, CitizenPL) https://societates-civis.comWise Wolf Gold https://www.wolfpack.gold/?ref=geopolitics Websites Unacceptable Jessica Substack https://jessicar.substack.com Jessica’s Universe https://www.jessicasuniverse.com Voice for Science and Solidarity https://www.voiceforscienceandsolidarity.org/authors/jessica-rose About Dr. Jessica Rose Dr. Jessica Rose is a Canadian researcher with a Bachelor’s Degree in Applied Mathematics and a Master’s degree in Immunology from Memorial University of Newfoundland. She also holds a PhD in Computational Biology from Bar Ilan University and 2 Post Doctoral degrees: one in Molecular Biology from the Hebrew University of Jerusalem and one in Biochemistry from the Technion Institute of Technology. She was also accepted for a 2-month program as a senior researcher at the Weizmann Institute prior to completion of her latest post doctoral degree at the Technion. Her more recent research efforts are aimed at descriptive analysis of the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) data in efforts to make this data accessible to the public. *Podcast intro music is from the song “The Queens Jig” by “Musicke & Mirth” from their album “Music for Two Lyra Viols”: http://musicke-mirth.de/en/recordings.html (available on iTunes or Amazon)

French intellectual Thierry Meyssan discusses Ukraine and the end of the unipolar moment. Since the collapse of the USSR, Washington has tried to prevent any power from challenging it, including the European Union. The EU is a good market but must never become a political power. The Ukraine conflict is being used to pauperize and economically collapse Europe, which will happen. Russia is militarily stronger than the U.S. For over a decade there has been a growing movement of Nazism or Banderism in Ukraine which now makes up one-third of the armed forces. He explains why false flag operations are so successful and that perhaps next time such an operation will be used against Russia or China or anyone and everyone! He lived in Libya and Syria and worked with both governments and explains how the Pentagon uses Daesh as its private army and is doing the same with the Neo-Nazis in Ukraine. He doesn’t think the U.S. will go to war with Russia or China as they are too formidable, and that rather, they are at war against the Europeans as Washington wants to be the empire for Europe. They will continue false flag attacks against their own allies. He discusses the oligarchic system in the U.S. and the Straussian neocons. The world is dividing in two blocs which will no longer communicate with each other, and the West is the smaller bloc. Watch On BitChute / Brighteon / Rokfin / Rumble Geopolitics & Empire · Thierry Meyssan: The Goal of the Ukraine Conflict is to Economically Collapse Europe #288 *Support Geopolitics & Empire! Become a Member https://geopoliticsandempire.substack.comDonate https://geopoliticsandempire.com/donationsConsult https://geopoliticsandempire.com/consultation **Visit Our Affiliates & Sponsors! 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Geopolitics & Empire: I’ve been a huge fan of your website, Voltaire Network. I have been reading it for more than 10 years. Some of my dissident professors told me if you want to have a better understanding of the world, you need to read a Voltaire Global Research, Executive Intelligence Review, and other such websites. And I’ve been a huge fan of your work. And I wanted to get your thoughts on what’s happening in the world today. I believe you have said that the current crisis in Ukraine was instigated by Washington and Kiev, and that’s something I tend to believe, and that their goal is to remove Russia from the international scene, that they are trying to wipe out all traces of Russian culture in the West. And secondly, they’re trying to weaken the European Union. And interestingly, this week, President Putin said, “What’s going on today is the demolition of the unipolar world system that was created after the collapse of the Soviet Union.” Can you give us your thoughts, your analysis on how you see what’s happening in Ukraine and if you think this is the end of the unipolar moment, and what does all of this mean? Thierry Meyssan: You will have a totally different vision of conflict if you think this conflict only since two months or if you’ve observed the world since 30 years. If you see the world since 30 years, you see how the U.S. try to impose this unipolar system and how much conflict they have created, how much people they have killed everywhere in the world. If you see only since two week to two months, you will say, “Oh, but if there is some problem for the Russian in Ukraine, why they don’t go to United Nations?” You will not understand really what happened. In fact, since the collapse of Soviet Union, the U.S. try to prevent any other power to challenge them. So, at that time Russia was nothing. It was totally collapsing. And the first idea of its people was to stop the European Union. They think European Union is a great market, but must never become a political power. So, what happened now is the direct consequence of this way of thinking. You see the armored conflict in Ukraine, but the reaction to this conflict is not against Russia, it is against for Europeans. They use this conflict to popularize, to create an economic collapse in Europe. And you will see, it will arrive. It will arrive. Of course, if you want to attack the Russia, it’s not possible. Because Russia, it’s much more powerful than the United States on the military level, I say. Of course, not at all on the financial level. But in every conflict, when you have finance against military, the military won, always. Geopolitics & Empire: And do you feel that Russia will be successful in its goals, in its operation? How do you feel, or do you feel that this situation in Ukraine will continue for many years, like a Yugoslavia type situation? Or do you feel people talk about a World War III type scenario? Where do you think things will go? Thierry Meyssan: Yeah, since I think 10, 12 years, something like that, you have a big development of Nazi in the Ukraine. But Nazi is not the exact word. They are Banderites. They are follower of Stepan Bandera, that’s not the same thing than the Nazi. But during the World War they were all working all together against the population. But the Banderites, they think racially. They think that they are from German or Scandinavian origin. But not Slav, not at all. So, when the Russians, Slavs, are under [inaudible 00:06:27] and during 12 years, this group grow, grow, grow in Ukraine. Two months ago, they taught in the schools that Ukraine was an independent country only because the Nazi helped them. This is the official thinking. They put a lot of Nazi symbol everywhere. They build the monuments to Stepan Bandera and to the Nazi. So, but the first point for the Russian to destroy all these Nazi symbols to clean the handbook in the schools. And of course it must be evident for everybody such thing, because this way thinking brought us immediately to the war, it’s abuse. We can’t accept inequality between the human beings, but since Poroshenko, I think… President Poroshenko developed the idea that less people in Donbas must be whipped out of the scene. In a public speech, he said that you will not give them any allocation, any support. It’s only for the people for the German and Scandinavia people, not for the Slav people. The people in Donbas reject this government in Kyiv, they ask for an autonomous system for them. First, Kyiv accept with means agreement, but quite immediately, they refused to accept this agreement they have already signed. So since eight years, you have a war against the people in Donbas. And this rule of the Nazi system is so big that just before this war, you have a one third of the armored forces of Ukraine are Nazi forces. One third, that’s official. You have the army and you have what they call the national guard of the territorial guard and these people that’s only Nazi militia. Geopolitics & Empire: These Azov battalions, right? Thierry Meyssan: For instance, you have the as of regimen, but that’s only a part of this [Banderian 00:10:37] system. They have MPs also, they created an official Nazi party and they enter in the national assembly. Nobody protests, it’s very surprising for me how the West could accept such things, but they are against Russia and, but all for us. 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Go to borderlesshealthinsurance.com to watch a short presentation on expat and digital nomad healthcare, and sign up for a free consultation to review your options. Geopolitics and empire needs funding. You can leave a donation book a consultation, or become a member, which gets you access to my brief weekly commentary, a monthly newsletter of my thoughts, a private telegram, a monthly member’s group call, and my second premium broadcast called Dissident Thinker, where I conduct interviews and provide solo analysis. Dissident Thinker is also available on Rokfin and for supporters on locals. Geopolitics & Empire: I am a Slav, I guess I would also be considered [inaudible 00:12:42]. And in fact, my family tells me my Croatian grandfather had been a Nazi prisoner for some time. He survived during in the World War II. But you also talk a lot about false flag operations. For many years, I’ve been studying this phenomenon. There are a lot of great people like Daniele Ganser, the Swiss historian who talks about these things. I’ve interviewed him in the beginning of this, when I created this podcast. 9/11, I think people listening to this program are well aware about 9/11. You wrote a book on it. Washington and Brussels have recently been talking about false flags a lot in Ukraine. If something happens, I will first believe it was done by NATO or the CIA or MI6. I think it was Liz Truss, is her name, the UK foreign secretary this week, I think she was saying that Russia has conducted or is about to conduct a false flag. I don’t know how people believe this anymore. It’s the same story. We see it now we see it with the Syrian fake chemical attacks, false flag with Iraq war, with the Vietnam war, just so many times the West carrying out false flag operations. What are your thoughts about these discussions of false flag operations and if they will carry one out and use it to escalate the war? Thierry Meyssan: First, false flag already works. We are human, when we see on TV, some people dying, some people cryings, that’s emotional force. So we are not able at that time, at that very time, we are not able to think. When they show, for instance, in Ukraine, people lying on the ground, all these bodies, you say that’s horrible. And immediately you have the answer to your emotional reaction. Immediately, they will say to you that’s the Russians. The criminals are Russians. So if you want to preserve you from this manipulation, you have to take distance and to think how it was in the president time. Myself, I began to be a journalist during the war in Yugoslavia. At that time I produced daily report. It was done with all the wires from the news agency around Yugoslavia. And on the other part, it was what NATO said. So at the beginning of the conflict, it was the same story, but every day it was more and more difference. It was very strange for me. I wasn’t in Yugoslavia at that time. And I was thinking something in the middle must be the truth and it wasn’t. When the war ended immediately, I have some friends who will go in Yugoslavia in Serbia and in Kosovo and immediately the next day, everybody knows the truth was with the news agency around Ukraine, not the news agency from Europe and the U.S. No, from Greece, from Cyprus, from Albania, from everywhere around. And what NATO to said was totally wrong. So after that, I have see 9/11. That’s something very strange. Nobody knows really what happened, but they… And it’s impossible to know because the U.S. forbid to everybody to go in New York and in Washington on the places. No one journalists in the world was able to go to these places so nobody knows The U.S. said, “We will give you some proof of evidences of what happened.” but they never done anything credible. So we can only think, first, why they organize such a blind event like that. And we can think with how they did by the past. During your studies in Geneva, you said have contacted Daniele Ganser. He wrote a book about how the NATO organized some assassinations and some coup d’é·tat during the World War, not in the [inaudible 00:19:43], but inside Europe against the alliance. NATO was against the alliance during all the cold war. They organized the coup d’é·tat in Greece, they killed the prime minister in Italy and so on. In France, they have done incredible things and the French people don’t know that. For instance, they support financially and military, they support the ORS, the secret army organization, that’s where people will oppose to the independence of Algeria. And there people tried 40 times to kill General de Gaulle. But this is NATO. I have done big debate with Richard Holbrooke, the famous U.S. diplomat on what topics in Kazakhstan. What we have see with 9/11, it’s something organized inside the U.S. against the U.S. Okay. They use is as a pretext to attack Afghanistan, but they have prepared the war against Afghanistan since July, not since September. And they also use the same story against Iraq. You remember, of course, the story of the mechanical attack with Colin Powell, but failed. Colin Powell say that nations, that Iraq was co-organizer for 9/11. They use now 9/11 against Iran. They seize the property of Iran in the U.S., because they organizing trial of Iran for 9/11. The next time, it’ll be Russia, of course, or China. Everybody. Geopolitics & Empire: That’s one of the things that… Exactly what you said, that’s one of the things that makes me angry. I’m an American citizen, but I’m also a European citizen, a Croatian. And first what concerns me is my own government. And as you said, when I learned about NATO carrying out state terrorism, assassinating Aldo Moro. I read other instances from Danielle Daniele Ganser’s book, where they sent in NATO military special operations soldiers into grocery supermarkets, and they shot and killed… I forget which European country they blew up a school bus with European children. This was a NATO and each of our European countries intelligence agencies killing us. This is terrorism. And how can you trust these people? This is a great evil. And you mentioned Kazakhstan. I also lived for a few years in Kazakhstan. I was technically working for Nursultan Nazarbayev as one of his… Well, I never met him, but at one of his schools. But anyways, you talked about the information war recently on Voltaire Network, you were wrote an article about it. And you said that NATO has won the cognitive war against its own citizens in the West. Indeed one year ago, my Patreon, where I received donations for this channel was terminated during the same week that there was an article written from the associated press that was written together with the Atlantic Council, NATOs think tank and they mentioned my podcast in a negative way and that same week my Patreon was deleted and so you can see this information war. I’ve never seen such strong and successful propaganda like we are seeing now surrounding this Ukraine situation. So many people I know in the West are believing the propaganda. And they’re now on social media and big tank is deleting so many people. Just yesterday, Pepe Escobar’s Twitter account was deleted. My YouTube account is almost going to be deleted, Facebook, Instagram, Russia Today America was shut down. It really feels like we are in a world war where, where everything, all the information is… It’s only one side it’s only, as you said, NATO, U.S. EU perspective and that’s it. What can you… What is interesting for you about this information war that we are in right now? And I’m Voltaire Network has also suffered censorship. Thierry Meyssan: Yes, lot of, much than a censorship, much more than that. We were physically attacked a lot of time. So After 9/11, there was a war in Afghanistan, in Iraq, after that in Libya, and most of the people, they think that Libya was a dictatorship. This is absolutely stupid. Libya was a socialist country with the world socialist from the socialist French thinker of the 19th century [Pujol 00:26:27]. You know Pujol? So he was at that sense, it was a socialist. It was a very minimum state and they accomplished a lot of great things. No, it was the most wealthy people from all Africa, including South Africa. Now it’s all is destroying, you can’t leave more than in this country. I was member of the last government of [inaudible 00:27:20]. And after that, I go to Syria during 10 years, I was in Syria. When I see how the U.S. organize this war, they are very few GIs on the ground, but they support 250,000 Jihadis` in Iraq and Syria, 250,000 Jihadis. So the Jihadis are the private army of Pentagon. And now in Ukraine, the Nazi are the private army of Pentagon. But unfortunately, the Nazi are more clever than the Jihadis. And right now they began to infiltrate the Western armies, including in France here. We are not conscious of that, that’s why I published yesterday this video of this ceremony in Ukraine, with these Nazi people. It was something like [inaudible 00:29:12] Klan, something paramilitary organization, everybody masked and they prepare to kill other people. That’s why it’s a very bad thing to support Ukrainian people without asking question. Of course, you have to support the civilians, but not all civilians. Some of the civilians are Nazi, you have not to support them. You have to ask them why they create this situation. We have now some children coming from Ukraine, they go to our schools, but they don’t speak French. And between them, some of them not all of them, but some of them suddenly a quarter or third of them, they are talking in Ukrainian against some people, because this one is from Madre [inaudible 00:31:08]. This one is a black people, this one is… Etc. Geopolitics & Empire: This is one of the reasons… I left the United States a long time ago, for many reasons. I like to live abroad, but I also felt that the American empire was declining and it was going to become more authoritarian, Nazi-like, fascist, whatever you want to call it. We see now in the U.S., they’re creating domestic terror units like Stasi. And so it’s becoming more authoritarian. And I wanted to ask you about… You said the U.S. is no longer the world’s leading economic power, it’s now China. And it’s no longer the first military power in the world, you say it’s Russia. I’ve previously interviewed Russian military expert, Andrei Martyanov, who talks about this. And during the war in Syria, you said a war that NATO forces lost, Russia, tested all kinds of new weapons that NATO cannot compete with. Do you see the American empire declining? And what does this all mean? Do you feel they might go crazy and start a nuclear war? Going forward, how do you see this? People are now talking about a multipolar world, how do you see all of this? Thierry Meyssan: No. Since your some scholars in us talk about the Thucydides Trap. Thucydides is the Greek historian from the anti community who explain that the war between Sparta and Athens was the consequences of decline power of Sparta and the increased power of Athens war was of course a democracy, but at the same time, an entirely power will occupy different colonies. So they said, it’s the same now, the power of the U.S. is declining and the war with China is impossible to prevent. But the U.S., they tried first to attack Russia and later China because they think they have to disassociate the two supers worlds to be sure to win. But it’s not possible for them to win and they know that. The Russian army is able in one moment to stop immediately, all the communication of NATO. Without communication, it’s nothing. And they have also a lot of new weapons, especially hypersonic weapons that NATO don’t have and will not have before 10 years, something like that. It’s so different from their technology. And it means that all the shields of the U.S. are unable to stop the Russian missiles. So they will not create a war. I don’t think they will create war not against Russian, but they are already doing a war against the Europeans. They know that Russia and China are too big for them, but they want to be the empire for Europeans. And they will continue false flag attacks against their own allies like they did during the cold war. Right now, they use this war in Ukraine to decide sanctions. Who are they to decide sanctions? That’s incredible. They neglect the United Nations since 30 years, they decide a loan sanction, which is totally illegal. And they persuade the European Union, because Russians are also Europeans, but they persuade European Unions to enact the sanctions against themselves. So right now, since more than one week, Germany, don’t import more gas from Russia. They are living with their own reserves. They can do like that during some months, but no more. It means that if they continue like that in some months, you will have no electricity in Germany. It’ll be a country of third world. And if Germany collapse, all the European Union will collapse. Geopolitics & Empire: Yeah. I’ve been reading much analysis about the collapse of the EU, even some of their own think tank, white papers talking about 2030, 2035, where the EU will collapse. And we see Russia now wants [inaudible 00:38:42] for gas. Saudi Arabia is considering selling oil [inaudible 00:38:48] to China. So we’re seeing a… So I get what you’re saying. I agree that U.S. is trying to keep the EU as its vessel. What do you think will happen generally in the West? It seems like the living standards will decline in Europe and the U.S. People talk about inflation, hyperinflation. We have problems domestically in America, culturally, politically, there’s talk of even some kind of civil war. What do you think will happen in the United States? Thierry Meyssan: No, I don’t know. Really, I don’t know. The U.S. want to develop only the military industry. They don’t product anymore food anymore. All their everyday life, they don’t product nothing. So I remember that the Spanish empire was there because they have a lot of gold, but no other things, no food. So it was the end of the Spanish empire, because they have too more gold and no food. So the U.S., we have too more bombs, tanks, and rifles but there are no food. Geopolitics & Empire: Yeah, that’s a good point. And maybe if you could tell us, since you’re French, just let us know what are your thoughts on… We’ve got the French elections currently, I think it’s Macron and Le Pen. Personally, I guess I’d be more of a fan of Le Pen. Not a big fan of Macron. Do you think there will be… What do you think will happen with these French elections? Will it be just the status quo will remain, or do you think there’s a possibility for change? Thierry Meyssan: The situation is very simple. In France, only one quarter of the people are supporting Emmanuel Macron. These people, they’re happy in their life, and that’s why they support Macron. Two third, no, three quarter of the people, they are unhappy and they want to change, some of them to change the people and some of them to change the system. So Marine Le Pen is trying to organize an opposition, but because of a history of his party, not because of her. She’s totally a republican. But his party is coming from the Second World War. And for the French, that’s not the reality, but for the French, this party is the continuation of the [inaudible 00:42:45] and the collaboration with the Nazi. In fact, this party was a creation of [inaudible 00:42:57] the head of a secret services of General de Gaulle. And it was a way to control the extreme right and Marine Le Pen was working from the General de Gaulle and stop the extreme right about the reality. But that’s not what the people in France are conscious. So some of the people will want to change the things, vote for the left for Jean-Luc Mélenchon. The only solution will be to connect Marine Le Pen and Jean-Luc Mélenchon but all the history reject this idea. And of course, it’s something dangerous to link right and the left, but Marine Le Pen is not from the right and not from the left. You can think, for instance, what happened in Venezuela, when Hugo Chávez link the revolutionary people with the Catholic people and met a real transformation in this country. So it’s possible to do such thing. Geopolitics & Empire: I guess I’ve got just one more question. You also write… I mean, you write a lot about a lot of topics on Voltaire Middle East, and just to get your thoughts going forward in this multipolar world, new world order, we’re talking about China and Russia and EU and U.S., and I think Israel also has an important role. What’s most important for you when thinking about Israel, they seem to be flirting with the Chinese, where they brought the Chinese into the ports in Haifa. We have these Abraham courts now where Israel is appearing to make peace with many of its neighbors. What is important for you when thinking about Israel right now? Thierry Meyssan: I think Israel is changing, but changing very, very slowly. Reject Benjamin Netanyahu. Netanyahu Was a colonialist in the British sense of world. He was trying to have an Israel empire in all the Middle East. Right now you have an Israel government, much more human than that. And you see for instance in Ukraine, they don’t align to the U.S. Israel is the only country in the Western world who refuse to receive President Zelenskyy in Knesset, in the national assembly. They only accept to have a talk with him by Zoom video, with the MP, not with national assembly individually, with the MPs, because they are aware of this Nazi phenomenon in Ukraine. They are aware that President Zelenskyy, which is Jewish is not at all representative of Jewish people, is the product of [inaudible 00:47:48] and [inaudible 00:47:56] in Ukraine which is also Jewish people, but which is also the head of the mafia in Ukraine. And that guy tried few years ago to became the head of the Jewish community in European Union and he was hosted by all the Jewish community. So Israel was very cautious with Ukraine and Naftali Bennett, the prime minister goes to Ukraine, said at the end to Zelenskyy, “You have to host the Nazi and to accept what said Vladimir Putin is right.” So I see that Israel is changing. It Is beginning to be a normal state, an independent normal state. So they are now taking distances slowly from the U.S., and they are going more to China and Russia. Geopolitics & Empire: Yeah. I’ve been seeing the same thing. And I remember reading about Bennett telling Zelenskyy, “Do what the Russians want.” Do you have any other issue that you think is important for us to know about or that I haven’t brought up, or any final thoughts for us? Thierry Meyssan: Yes, I have so very more important, who is doing this politics in the U.S.? We are talking as the U.S. where democracy, but it is not at all democracy. First, in the U.S. constitution there is no the democracy word at all. There is no words republic in your constitution. No, this constitution was wrote to organize a kind of British monarch in the U.S. with U.S. people, not with British people, but with U.S. people, but the same kind of system. And fortunately, the people who did the war against the British barriers, people impose 10 amendments to the constitution. So right now it’s more a little wight, but this system is always in few hands, not in the people hands at all. And Since 30 years, the small group, no more than 100 people, very small group, take the poor. This group, I will call them the Straussians because they support of philosopher called Leo Strauss. These people, you never see them in public sometimes, but very few times in public. You know only them because they are supported by a group of journalist of media. What we called the neo conservatives, but neoconservatives are no… They don’t have political power at all. They are only media power. The neo conservative restrictions they are the same families in fact. But why I said it’s very few people. In the U.S., you discover this people with Paul Wolfowitz was a direct disciple from Leo Strauss. He was number two in the Pentagon during George Bush, the son. And you know also Daniel [Pearl 00:53:54], that guy was an advisor in the Pentagon. But he was also before that the man who organized the war in Yugoslavia, he was a special advisor for all political affairs to President Izetbegović in Bosnia’s government. When at the same time, Osama bin Laden was the advisor of Izetbegović for military affairs. At the same time Pearl and bin Laden in the same government doing the same politics. In France, we have also [inaudible 00:54:52] which is a so-called philosopher, also advisor to Izetbegović for media. So with people, they first organized the war in Yugoslavia. And after that, they organized 9/11. This group Project for New American century. That was the same people, all the founders of Project for New American Century, they are all Straussians, all of them. First, of course, Robert Kagan, the historian. And the wife of Robert Kagan is Victoria Nuland. That’s where the UN organized the end of the war between Israel and Lebanon. When the Hezbollah was winning, they stopped the war, “Don’t invade Israel.” She stopped the war and after that, she organized the coup d’é·tat in Ukraine in 2014, and now she organized this very war in Ukraine. She’s the number two in the secretary of state, but she was with George Bush and with Barack Obama at the same time. She was with Joe Biden when he was vice president, she organized the erupt of Ukraine because she put Hunter Biden, the son of Joe Biden as the head of system in Ukraine. And she organized with Hunter Biden, the military biological centers in Ukraine. The Nazi and the Straussians are very closed. This is something coming from Leo Strauss himself. Leo Strauss was Jewish people going out of Europe because of the Nazi. He goes to U.S. and became a teacher in Chicago University. And he said to his followers, “Don’t trust the democracy, they are too weak. If you want to prevent to be killed by a dictator, you have to do yourself a dictator.” So that’s why now there’s links with Nazi. Geopolitics & Empire: Yes. Growing up in America we were taught out early on the constitution. As you mentioned, I have right behind me the bill of rights there, and you have this idea that we live in this republic, and it’s only later I realize I’m a citizen of the empire. And that it’s basically an oligarchy, as you said. People look at Putin, he’s been in power for 20 years. Well how long has had Merkel been in power? And then you look in the U.S., you had in the ’90s, it was Bush and then Clinton and then Bush, and then Obama, Clinton. And now we basically have Biden, which is again, the sort of a repeat of Clinton and Obama, and the same people as you say, have been in power for the last 30 years and they just keep running constant regime changes. So yes, I would agree. Do you have any then final thoughts to leave us with? I’m glad that you’re optimistic, that you don’t think there will be a World War III. So that’s good. Any final thoughts for us? Thierry Meyssan: I think the world is dividing now, dividing in two blocks. And these two blocks, we know more communicate. And we are in the small block. We are 10% of humanity, but we are proud to be the U.S. That’s ridiculous. Geopolitics & Empire: Yeah, we are seeing this bifurcation as they call it. And Mackinder’s world island growing. As you said, the majority of the world’s population and resources are coming together. Even here in Mexico, where I am, the president is not going along with Uncle Sam and so we clearly see this trend. What are the… What is the best website or websites that you recommend for people to follow? Voltaire. Are there books or projects that people should know about and how can people support you? Thierry Meyssan: The problem now is much more bigger. You have not… The problem is that you must learn history. You must learn history. The U.S. never win the Second World War, it was the USSR, not the U.S. Now the world is built with a lot of stupidity. We ignore our own history, we are only believing what we have seen with Hollywood films. So you have to search the documents from the beginning, don’t believe what they said about the documents, read them. First, read them. That’s the first thing to do. And with the media, you never believe the first screen, never believe that. When you see, for instance, two weeks ago, we have in France a big show to explain us what happened in Ukraine on the… We have a public TV, or state TV, who explain us that the Russian are bad and that the Ukrainians are good. They interview the mayor of [inaudible 01:03:21] and of course, the guy said, “We are resisting against the Russian beer.” But they never explained that this guy was only dark, a billionaire, but he was owning most of TVs and radios in his country and then he was putting Nazi propaganda on the air. They never explained that just near his office, there was a very big building to the glory of [inaudible 01:04:35]. So they was lying to us. There was very few of them, but it was absolutely false what they did. And it’s very simple to verify what I said. So be very cautious with the media. Geopolitics & Empire: Yeah, I agree. It’s simple to uncover this stuff and I agree as a former professor of history and political science, that’s what I tend to do. And I would force my students to read the declassified CIA operations, like Operation Ajax, how they overthrew the Iranian government unethically, Operation Northwood, and so many of these operations. That’s how we have to think. I guess, your best website is voltairenet.org, yes? Thierry Meyssan: Yes, voltairenet.org. Yes. Geopolitics & Empire: And it’s in different languages. You can read it in Spanish, French, and people can support you there, right? That’s the best place to support you? Thierry Meyssan: Yes. Yes, of course. Because in fact, we have much more attack than we have support. Geopolitics & Empire: That’s just the name of the game and I see your books are still available on Amazon, right? The Big Lie and- Thierry Meyssan: Yes, yes. Geopolitics & Empire: They’re in English as well, and you can get them in Kindle. I’m going to purchase them in Kindle. Well, in any case, I’ve been a regular reader of voltairenet.org and so I highly recommend everyone to bookmark the website if you didn’t know about Thierry Meyssan’s work in Voltaire. Merci for being on Geopolitics & Empire. Thierry Meyssan: Thank you. Outro: I hope you enjoyed this Geopolitics & Empire podcast. The website is geopoliticsandempire.com, and I encourage you to sign up for the free email list that goes out with each podcast and every weekend with a collection of news headlines. The newsletter and website are our last lines of defense. We’re being censored and deplatformed. It’s nearly impossible to find Geopolitics & Empire on the Google Search Engine, we’ve been blacklisted. YouTube frequently takes down our videos with strikes, Facebook restricts our page, Reddit and Twitter take down posts. And after the Associated Press mentioned geopolitics and empire in a 2021 article co-written with NATO, our Patreon account was terminated. Vimeo also terminated our pro account. 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About Thierry Meyssan Thierry Meyssan shocked the world with the first “9/11 Truth” books, his L’Effroyable Imposture in March 2002 (9/11: The Big Lie), and a sequel, Pentagate. In the 1990’s he was national secretary of a French radical party which held seats in the government. He is the founder of the Voltaire Network, a major alternative international press agency. In 2005, he organized the Axis for Peace, a congress of international leaders and writers opposing illegal wars. In 2007, he was forced into exile and settled in the Middle East, where he has witnessed and participated in history in the making. He has been called France’s most controversial public figure, and is the only Western observer to remain on the scene in Libya and Syria during the entire conflict. In 2011 Meyssan went to Tripoli and was appointed by Gaddafi to mobilize international support against the aggression that would destroy the Libyan republic; but the NATO onslaught came too quickly, and he narrowly escaped with his life. He is currently consultant to Syrian President Bashar al-Assad’s government, and has been close to heads of state like Hugo Chavez of Venezuela and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran. *Podcast intro music is from the song “The Queens Jig” by “Musicke & Mirth” from their album “Music for Two Lyra Viols”: http://musicke-mirth.de/en/recordings.html (available on iTunes or Amazon)