

Forged in America
Ravin Gandhi and Al Goldstein
Forged in America is a conversation between longtime friends and entrepreneurs Ravin Gandhi and Al Goldstein who have built and sold numerous businesses. Al founded fintech unicorn Avant, national real estate firm Pangea, and Stoic Lane. Ravin founded GMM Nonstick Coatings, a $100M supplier to the housewares industry that served 40M Americans daily, and was acquired by $10B conglomerate Resonac. Al and Ravin are also experienced early stage investors, investing in deals such as Apptronik, KeyMe, Morning Consult, Kin Insurance, Hester Biosciences, Throne Labs, Natrion and Patient IQ that collectively have raised billions in funding.
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Feb 24, 2026 • 1h 8min
E17: AI Warfare, Israel & the Future of Cyber
Lior Div, who raised over $1B in founding Cybereason and 7AI, shares his insights with Ravin and Al on the intersection of cybersecurity and AI, emphasizing the importance of innovation in the face of evolving cyber threats. He discusses his background in the elite 8200 unit of the IDF and how it has shaped his entrepreneurial journey in the tech industry. The discussion also highlights Israel's unique position as a leader in cybersecurity innovation and the challenges that lie ahead for companies in this rapidly changing landscape. They delve into Israel's high rate of startup founders, including the role of military training and cultural differences in talent selection. They discuss the evolution of the cybersecurity landscape, the integration of AI into business models, and the implications of dyslexia on personal success. The conversation touches on the future of education, the impact of crypto on cybersecurity, and the recent intelligence failures in Israel.Disclaimer: The Forged in America podcast features personal stories, experiences, and opinions from hosts Al Goldstein and Ravin Gandhi. This content is for informational and entertainment purposes only and is not investment advice, financial advice, solicitation of investments, or any form of professional recommendation.We strive for accuracy, but mistakes can happen and are unintentional. Nothing discussed should be relied upon for making financial, business, or personal decisions. Always consult qualified professionals before acting on anything you hear.Past performance or results mentioned do not guarantee future outcomes. Listeners are responsible for their own choices.

Feb 17, 2026 • 1h 11min
E16: ZeroHash Founder: Why a Crypto Unicorn Rejected $2B
Edward Woodford, founder and CEO of ZeroHash, a crypto infrastructure leader who famously walked away from a reported $2B offer. He discusses stablecoins as tokenized dollars, the plumbing that moves crypto on-chain, and why usability and interoperability are the biggest adoption hurdles. He also covers tokenization’s benefits for payments and global distribution, plus why infrastructure trust matters for institutions.

Feb 12, 2026 • 1h 9min
E15: Ravin and Al on Growth, Grift, Markets, Immigration and Media Bias
Ravin and Al discuss the current state of the economy, exploring conflicting narratives around inflation, affordability, and consumer behavior. They reflect on insights gained from recent guests on their podcast and consider the impact of AI on future economic opportunities. They discuss perceptions of grift and favoritism in politics, the impact of populism on economic prosperity, and the complexities of racism and accountability in political discourse. The conversation also touches on immigration policies, voter ID laws, and the implications of global political shifts, culminating in a discussion about the Epstein scandal and its fallout.Disclaimer: The Forged in America podcast features personal stories, experiences, and opinions from hosts Al Goldstein and Ravin Gandhi. This content is for informational and entertainment purposes only and is not investment advice, financial advice, solicitation of investments, or any form of professional recommendation.We strive for accuracy, but mistakes can happen and are unintentional. Nothing discussed should be relied upon for making financial, business, or personal decisions. Always consult qualified professionals before acting on anything you hear.Past performance or results mentioned do not guarantee future outcomes. Listeners are responsible for their own choices.

Feb 7, 2026 • 1h 14min
E14: Don Edwards: From Billions in Private Equity to 100,000 Students
Al and Ravin speak with Don Edwards, founder and chairman of FlexPoint, about his journey from being a college athlete at the University of Illinois to a renowned career in private equity. They discuss the challenges along the way, including the importance of networking, the transition from investment banking to private equity, and the role of philanthropy in shaping one's identity. Don shares insights on the competitive nature of golf and how it parallels the business world, as well as the significance of mentorship and having a chip on one's shoulder in achieving success. Edwards also reflects on what makes a great private equity associate, his leadership role in higher education, and the challenges faced during the encampments at the University of Illinois. He emphasizes the disconnect within academia and the need for a reassessment of higher education's role in society.Disclaimer: The Forged in America podcast features personal stories, experiences, and opinions from hosts Al Goldstein and Ravin Gandhi. This content is for informational and entertainment purposes only and is not investment advice, financial advice, solicitation of investments, or any form of professional recommendation.We strive for accuracy, but mistakes can happen and are unintentional. Nothing discussed should be relied upon for making financial, business, or personal decisions. Always consult qualified professionals before acting on anything you hear.Past performance or results mentioned do not guarantee future outcomes. Listeners are responsible for their own choices.

Feb 4, 2026 • 1h
E13: Rahm Emanuel Will Save The Democrats
In this episode, Ravin Gandhi and Al Goldstein engage in a thought-provoking conversation with Rahm Emanuel, discussing the balance of political perspectives, the importance of education and accountability, the shifting demographics in America, and the implications of voter ID laws. They explore the impact of family structure on society, the complexities of immigration, and the current state of public safety. Emanuel emphasizes the need for a comprehensive approach to immigration reform and the importance of addressing societal issues through effective public policy. The discussion culminates in reflections on the future of American politics and the necessity for centrist voices in a polarized environment.Disclaimer: The Forged in America podcast features personal stories, experiences, and opinions from hosts Al Goldstein and Ravin Gandhi. This content is for informational and entertainment purposes only and is not investment advice, financial advice, solicitation of investments, or any form of professional recommendation.We strive for accuracy, but mistakes can happen and are unintentional. Nothing discussed should be relied upon for making financial, business, or personal decisions. Always consult qualified professionals before acting on anything you hear.Past performance or results mentioned do not guarantee future outcomes. Listeners are responsible for their own choices.

Jan 31, 2026 • 1h 13min
E12: Austin Berg: How To Save Chicago and Blue Cities
Austin Berg is Executive Director of the Chicago Policy Center, and the Illinois Policy Institute. Austin is an award winning author, and has written a book called The New Chicago Way. He also made a documentary about Chicago Teachers Union called "Local One."Austin discusses with Ravin and Al the challenges facing Chicago, including its governance issues, economic decline, public safety concerns, and the failing education system. He emphasizes the need for reform in these areas, particularly the influence of the Chicago Teachers Union and the importance of school choice. The discussion also touches on the political dynamics in the city and the necessity for community engagement to drive change. Berg advocates for a more accountable and effective governance structure to revitalize Chicago and improve the lives of its residents.Disclaimer: The Forged in America podcast features personal stories, experiences, and opinions from hosts Al Goldstein and Ravin Gandhi. This content is for informational and entertainment purposes only and is not investment advice, financial advice, solicitation of investments, or any form of professional recommendation.We strive for accuracy, but mistakes can happen and are unintentional. Nothing discussed should be relied upon for making financial, business, or personal decisions. Always consult qualified professionals before acting on anything you hear.Past performance or results mentioned do not guarantee future outcomes. Listeners are responsible for their own choices.

Jan 26, 2026 • 1h 11min
E11: Groupon's Rich Heise: He Quietly Built $35B Of Companies
Rich Heise, Chicago tech investor and entrepreneur who founded Magnitude Networks and backed companies like Groupon and Echo, recounts his Silicon Valley and Midwestern journey. He talks about timing in tech, building repeatable business models, navigating IPOs and partnerships, and why he keeps launching startups. He also shares stories about resilience, community rituals like Old Man Hoops, and managing wealth and legacy.

Jan 22, 2026 • 1h 6min
E10: Vishal Garg: Meritocracy, Masa & Better.com's $110B of Mortgages
Ravin and Al discuss entrepreneurship, market dynamics, and personal journeys with Vishal Garg, the founder of Better.com. The discussion covers Vishal's early life, his experiences in the fintech industry, and the challenges he faced while building his company. The conversation emphasizes the importance of risk management, the value of meritocracy, and the impact of cultural identity on personal and professional growth. He reflects on the challenges faced during the financial crisis, the resilience built through partnerships, and the invaluable lessons learned from family and mentorship. The discussion also covers the inception of Better.com, the impact of COVID-19 on the business, and the strategic decisions made during market fluctuations which created public blowback. Vishal's vision for the future highlights the role of technology and innovation in transforming the financial industry.Disclaimer: The Forged in America podcast features personal stories, experiences, and opinions from hosts Al Goldstein and Ravin Gandhi. This content is for informational and entertainment purposes only and is not investment advice, financial advice, solicitation of investments, or any form of professional recommendation.We strive for accuracy, but mistakes can happen and are unintentional. Nothing discussed should be relied upon for making financial, business, or personal decisions. Always consult qualified professionals before acting on anything you hear.Past performance or results mentioned do not guarantee future outcomes. Listeners are responsible for their own choices.

Jan 20, 2026 • 1h 5min
E9: Black Hawk Down: SEAL Team Six Leader Rick Kaiser Tells the Real Mogadishu Story
In the world of elite military training, few experiences are as grueling and transformative as that of a Navy SEAL. In episode 9 of the podcast "Forged in America," hosts Ravin Gandhi and Al Goldstein had an insightful conversation with Rick Kaiser, a former Navy SEAL with an impressive 34-year career, including 25 years in SEAL Team Six. As a Silver Star recipient for his leadership during the Battle of Mogadishu, Rick's story is not just about physical endurance but also about the mental toughness that defines true leadership.Main Content:1. The Journey of a Navy SEALRick Kaiser’s journey began in a challenging environment where only the strongest survive. He recalls the infamous Hell Week, part of the rigorous Basic Underwater Demolition/SEAL (BUD/S) training, where 150 recruits began, but only 30 emerged as SEALs. During one particularly demanding night, Rick faced his lowest moment when he fell into a mindset of self-pity. "That was my lowest moment because that's when I actually felt sorry for myself," he shared, emphasizing that overcoming negativity is key to pushing through hardships.2. The Power of TeamworkRick highlights that the SEAL teams operate on a foundation of teamwork. "There are seven or eight or more support folks for every one SEAL," he explains, stressing that every member's contribution is vital. This philosophy extends beyond military operations; it applies to any organization where teamwork is crucial for success. When individuals attempt to take shortcuts or shirk responsibilities, it not only affects their performance but also impacts the team dynamic. Rick notes, "If that's their mindset going into something like this, it's just going to reflect on everything else they do."3. Mental Toughness Over Physical StrengthThe podcast delves into the mental versus physical aspects of training. Al Goldstein shares his experience at a mini Hell Week for CEOs, where he observed that the best athletes struggled as the challenges became more mental than physical. Rick agrees, stating, "Individual sports like wrestling or swimming, where it's really just you out there competing, are more successful at going through training like BUD/S." He emphasizes that understanding one’s limits and pushing through them is essential for both military and civilian leaders.4. Cultivating Leadership SkillsRick believes that leadership is a skill that can be developed over time. He states, "If you don’t believe you’re the best SEAL, there’s no sense in being there." This mindset fosters resilience and accountability. As young recruits, they take on significant responsibilities early, such as managing weapons and ammunition, which builds their leadership abilities. Rick emphasizes, "You have to make sure that they know what they’re doing and can accomplish the mission."Conclusion:Rick Kaiser's experiences as a Navy SEAL offer profound insights into leadership, resilience, and the power of teamwork. His journey underscores the importance of mental toughness and the ability to overcome adversity. For aspiring leaders and entrepreneurs, the key takeaways are clear: embrace teamwork, cultivate resilience, and never underestimate the power of the mind in achieving success.Key Takeaways:- Mental toughness is as crucial as physical strength in overcoming challenges.- Teamwork is essential for success; every member plays a vital role.- Leadership skills can be developed through responsibility and accountability.- Embracing a positive mindset can help one push through adversity.Tags: Navy SEAL, Leadership, Resilience, Teamwork, Mental Toughness, Entrepreneurship, Personal Development, Podcast Insights

Jan 16, 2026 • 1h 17min
E8: Dmitry Balyasny: Building a $30B Hedge Fund From Scratch
In this episode of "Forged in America," hosts Ravin Gandhi and Al Goldstein welcome Dmitry Balyasny, founder and CEO of Balyasny Asset Management (BAM), to discuss his remarkable journey from a young immigrant to leading a multi-strategy hedge fund managing over $30 billion. The conversation begins with the impact of Ayn Rand's philosophy on his entrepreneurial mindset. Dmitry shares insights on the importance of perseverance, the challenges of building a successful business, and the unique culture at BAM that fosters collaboration and innovation among partners and employees.Dmitry elaborates on the intricacies of managing a hedge fund, including the balance between risk and reward, the significance of hiring the right talent, and the evolving landscape of the financial markets. He emphasizes the need for a strong psychological foundation in traders, the importance of humility, and the value of continuous learning. The episode continues with Dmitry's thoughts on the current state of the market, the influence of technology, and his commitment to nurturing young talent through various programs at BAM. Dmitry shares his experiences navigating the tumultuous financial landscape during the 2008 crisis, emphasizing the importance of liquidity and investor trust. He reflects on the competitive nature of the industry, the role of AI in enhancing decision-making, and the importance of maintaining a balance between personal and professional life, especially as a father of six.The conversation delves into the future of finance, touching on the potential of AI and blockchain technology. Dmitry expresses a nuanced view on cryptocurrencies, recognizing their utility in emerging markets while remaining skeptical about their value in developed economies. He concludes with an optimistic outlook on technological advancements and their potential to drive progress, while cautioning against philosophical shifts that could hinder innovation. The episode wraps up with a light-hearted lightning round, revealing Dmitry's favorite books and movies, and his thoughts on fitness and family life.


