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DeFi Dad
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Apr 3, 2024 • 44min
Ethena: DeFi's Multibillion Dollar Tokenized Basis Trade
Guy Young, Founder of Ethena Labs, discusses the success of Ethena's tokenized basis trade protocol, explosive growth to $1.96B market cap, the Ethena Effect on DeFi, and the recent ENA token launch. Topics include Maker raising the DSR, power of composability behind USDe, importance of Pendle, and plans to add BTC in Season 2.

Mar 28, 2024 • 38min
RedStone Oracles: Powering Restaking, LRTfi and Beyond
Jakub Wojciechowski and Marcin Kaźmierczak are the Founders of RedStone Oracles.
In this episode, we interview the founders behind RedStone Oracles, powering restaking, LRTfi, and beyond. We discuss the vision behind this younger oracle protocol, how RedStone became a leading oracle provider in the emerging LRT sector, and what plans they have to grow and serve even more DeFi protocols in 2024.
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🔗 Essential Show Links 🔗
► Youtube: https://youtube.com/@defidad
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🧑🌾 MANTLE | THE ETHEREUM L2 FOR TOP NATIVE YIELDS
🟢 KELP DAO | THE FIRST LIQUID RESTAKING PLATFORM FOR LSTS
🟣 MAVERICK PROTOCOL | DEFI INFRA MADE TO CUSTOMIZE, AUTOMATE & INCENTIIZE LIQUIDITY
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Timestamps
0:00 - Intro
5:18 - Founding of RedStone
7:49 - Importance of oracles in DeFi
9:07 - How RedStone differentiates
11:28 - Proliferation of RedStone oracles
14:13 - Push vs Pull Oracles
16:18 - Supporting any EVM network
19:06 - Capitalizing on lead among LRTfi builders
21:17 - Security
24:04 - Maverick mid-roll
25:13 - Oracle Extractable Value: OEV
28:16 - Competing with Chainlink
30:56 - How RedStone expands to new L2s
32:43 - What's the next trend
34:34 - Closing
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🔗 Guest Links 🔗
► RedStone Website: https://redstone.finance/
► Redstone Expedition tweet: https://x.com/redstone_defi/status/1770812815810412670?s=20
► Marcin on Twitter: https://twitter.com/Marcin_Kaz13
► Jakub on Twitter: https://twitter.com/kuba_eth
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If you're a DeFi/Web3 builder, contact our team at: https://fourthrevolution.capital/
All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions and not necessarily those of Fourth Revolution Capital. Podcast guests and 4RC may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.

Mar 26, 2024 • 40min
Can Omni Network Solve for Ethereum’s Fragmented L2 Liquidity?
Austin King is the CEO of Omni Labs.
In this episode, we discuss how Omni Network can solve for Ethereum's fragmented L2 liquidity. Austin shares his vision for how this EVM blockchain, secured by Ethereum, aims to power one united user experience for all DeFi and Web3 apps built across rollups.
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🔗 Essential Show Links 🔗
► Youtube: https://youtube.com/@defidad
► Apple: https://tinyurl.com/edgepod
► Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/edgepodspotify
► Linktree: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod
► Follow DeFi Dad: https://twitter.com/DeFi_Dad
► Follow Nomatic: https://twitter.com/Nomaticcap
► Learn about DeFi and Web3: http://defidad.com/
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The Edge Podcast Sponsor Resources
🚀 FLAT MONEY | NEW FLATCOIN AND DELTA-NEUTRAL MARKETPLACE BACKED BY RETH
🌊 SWELL NETWORK | NATIVE LIQUID RESTAKING WITH RSWETH
💧 INSTADAPP | NEW LENDING AND BORROWING VAULTS WITH FLUID
🧑🌾 MANTLE | THE ETHEREUM L2 FOR TOP NATIVE YIELDS
🟢 KELP DAO | THE FIRST LIQUID RESTAKING PLATFORM FOR LSTS
🟣 MAVERICK PROTOCOL | DEFI INFRA MADE TO CUSTOMIZE, AUTOMATE & INCENTIIZE LIQUIDITY
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Timestamps
0:00 - Intro
5:12 - Austin's background
8:48 - What is Omni Network?
9:26 - What is Omni solving for?
11:39 - Blockchain design of Omni
12:46 - Getting to sub-second finality
15:34 - Omni vs major interoperability solutions
18:36 - Inspiration from prior builders
20:35 - Maverick mid-roll
21:44 - Secured by Ethereum thanks to EigenLayer
23:02 - ether.fi commits $600M of staked ETH
24:12 - Risks of restaking
28:28 - The Open Liquidity Network
32:06 - Could Omni deprecate bridging protocols?
33:34 - Ethereum security, with a Solana-like UX
36:03 - Expand beyond Ethereum?
37:25 - Closing
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🔗 Guest Links 🔗
► Omni Website: https://omni.network/
► Omni Whitepaper: https://docs.omni.network/whitepaper.pdf
► Omni on Twitter: https://twitter.com/omniFDN
► Austin on Twitter: https://twitter.com/0xASK
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If you're a DeFi/Web3 builder, contact our team at: https://fourthrevolution.capital/
All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions and not necessarily those of Fourth Revolution Capital. Podcast guests and 4RC may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.

Mar 22, 2024 • 40min
The EigenLayer Restaking Marketplace Emerges!
Founders of Lagrange Labs and ether.fi discuss the significance of $500M ETH restaking commitment, EigenLayer AVSs, pooled security models, Maverick Protocol, partnership benefits, LRT delegation strategies, network security collaboration, and Eigenlayer mainnet launch preparations.

Mar 22, 2024 • 42min
Cadence: A Cross-Chain Perps Aggregator|Quick Hit
Vivaldi is the anonymous CEO of Symphony Labs and Mozart is the anonymous CTO, having developed Cadence Protocol.
In this episode, we cover a new cross-chain perpetuals aggregator, called Cadence. Cadence is the flagship perps trading platform of Canto and will soon provide a solution for the fragmented liquidity across L2s and L1s by allowing trades to draw upon deep liquidity cross-chain in 1-click. Discover how this new protocol could unlock more onchain trading volume, and what else the team has planned including a COIN perps trading pair with 50x leverage!
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🔗 Essential Show Links 🔗
► Youtube: https://youtube.com/@defidad
► Apple: https://tinyurl.com/edgepod
► Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/edgepodspotify
► Linktree: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod
► Follow DeFi Dad: https://twitter.com/DeFi_Dad
► Follow Nomatic: https://twitter.com/Nomaticcap
► Learn about DeFi and Web3: http://defidad.com/
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The Edge Podcast Sponsor Resources
🚀 FLAT MONEY | NEW FLATCOIN AND DELTA-NEUTRAL MARKETPLACE BACKED BY RETH
🌊 SWELL NETWORK | NATIVE LIQUID RESTAKING WITH RSWETH
💧 INSTADAPP | NEW LENDING AND BORROWING VAULTS WITH FLUID
🧑🌾 MANTLE | THE ETHEREUM L2 FOR TOP NATIVE YIELDS
🦊 METAMASK PORTFOLIO | TRACK AND MANAGE YOUR WEB3 EVERYTHING
🟢 KELP DAO | THE FIRST LIQUID RESTAKING PLATFORM FOR LSTS
🟣 MAVERICK PROTOCOL | DEFI INFRA MADE TO CUSTOMIZE, AUTOMATE & INCENTIIZE LIQUIDITY
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Timestamps
0:00 - Intro
6:20 - Founding Cadence
9:16 - What is Cadence?
11:32 - New COIN pair and more differentiators
13:25 - How they'll launch COIN trading
15:30 - Trading pairs and leverage for Cadence perps
16:40 - What is an intent-centric perps aggregator?
17:53 - Why build on Canto?
20:46 - Recent launch of Cadence perps
22:43 - What is Symphony?
25:36 - Maverick mid-roll
26:45 - Design behind the aggregator
28:40 - Example of what happens when a trade executes
31:19 - Cadence stablecoin coming
34:38 - Positive-sum approach
37:34 - CAD value accrual
39:34 - Closing and Symphony Launch
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🔗 Guest Links 🔗
► Cadence website: https://www.cadenceprotocol.io/
► Cadence on Twitter: https://twitter.com/CadenceProtocol
► Vivaldi on Twitter: https://twitter.com/vivaldi0x
► Mozart on Twitter: https://twitter.com/mozartcadence
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If you're a DeFi/Web3 builder, contact our team at: https://fourthrevolution.capital/
All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions and not necessarily those of Fourth Revolution Capital. Podcast guests and 4RC may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. As of this podcast, DeFi Dad and Nomatic hold and stake CAD. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.

Mar 20, 2024 • 48min
Push Protocol: The Importance of Decentralized Communications & Push Nodes
Harsh Rajat is the CoFounder of Push Protocol.
In this episode, we discuss the importance of decentralized communications and upcoming launch of Push Nodes by Push Protocol. Harsh shares how Push Nodes can enable censorship-resistant communications, how Push is integrating with new decentralized social networks such as Farcaster, and how they're scaling this interoperable L2 of Web3 comms.
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🔗 Essential Show Links 🔗
► Youtube: https://youtube.com/@defidad
► Apple: https://tinyurl.com/edgepod
► Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/edgepodspotify
► Linktree: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod
► Follow DeFi Dad: https://twitter.com/DeFi_Dad
► Follow Nomatic: https://twitter.com/Nomaticcap
► Learn about DeFi and Web3: http://defidad.com/
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The Edge Podcast Sponsor Resources
🚀 FLAT MONEY | NEW FLATCOIN AND DELTA-NEUTRAL MARKETPLACE BACKED BY RETH
🌊 SWELL NETWORK | NATIVE LIQUID RESTAKING WITH RSWETH
💧 INSTADAPP | NEW LENDING AND BORROWING VAULTS WITH FLUID
🧑🌾 MANTLE | THE ETHEREUM L2 FOR TOP NATIVE YIELDS
🦊 METAMASK PORTFOLIO | TRACK AND MANAGE YOUR WEB3 EVERYTHING
🟢 KELP DAO | THE FIRST LIQUID RESTAKING PLATFORM FOR LSTS
🟣 MAVERICK PROTOCOL | DEFI INFRA MADE TO CUSTOMIZE, AUTOMATE & INCENTIIZE LIQUIDITY
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Timestamps
0:00 - Intro
5:56 - Elevator pitch for Push Protocol
9:37 - Why Web3 comms
18:00 - Group Chat x Unstoppable Domains
20:12 - Decentralizing Push Protocol
28:28 - Could Push leverage Eigenlayer?
29:36 - Maverick mid-roll
30:46 - Push x Web3 social
33:26 - Importance of self-owning your comms
37:31 - Push interoperability
42:36 - Closing and what's next
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🔗 Guest Links 🔗
► Push website: https://push.org/
► Push on Twitter: https://twitter.com/pushprotocol
► Harsh on Twitter: https://twitter.com/harshrajat
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If you're a DeFi/Web3 builder, contact our team at: https://fourthrevolution.capital/
All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions and not necessarily those of Fourth Revolution Capital. Podcast guests and 4RC may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. 4RC invested in the seed round for Push Protocol in 2020. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.

Mar 13, 2024 • 2h 44min
BONUS Episode | Live Interviews from ETHDenver 2024
Live interviews from ETHDenver 2024 feature founders shaping DeFi and Web3. Topics cover liquid restaking, DeFi protocols, decentralized education, leveraged farming, optimized liquidity, tokenized basis trades, Layer 2 growth, ZK Sync innovations, trustless finance infrastructure, and startup support.

Mar 8, 2024 • 20min
PrismaLRT: The Leverage dApp for LRTs|Quick Hit
Richard (0xbabaramdass) is Head of Business Development at Prisma Finance.
In this episode, we spotlight the new leverage dApp for LRTs, PrismaLRT. Prisma is the 3rd largest CDP protocol for borrowing in DeFi on Ethereum and now just launched a new product to support borrowing stablecoins against LRT collateral, including eETH by ether.fi. Learn more of the basics behind how PrismaLRT works and how DeFi users are getting paid PRISMA emissions to open vaults onchain.
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🔗 Essential Show Links 🔗
► Youtube: https://youtube.com/@defidad
► Apple: https://tinyurl.com/edgepod
► Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/edgepodspotify
► Linktree: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod
► Follow DeFi Dad: https://twitter.com/DeFi_Dad
► Follow Nomatic: https://twitter.com/Nomaticcap
► Learn about DeFi and Web3: http://defidad.com/
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The Edge Podcast Sponsor Resources
🚀 FLAT MONEY | NEW FLATCOIN AND DELTA-NEUTRAL MARKETPLACE BACKED BY RETH
🌊 SWELL NETWORK | NATIVE LIQUID RESTAKING WITH RSWETH
🦊 METAMASK PORTFOLIO | TRACK AND MANAGE YOUR WEB3 EVERYTHING
💧 INSTADAPP | NEW LENDING AND BORROWING VAULTS WITH FLUID
🧑🌾 MANTLE | THE ETHEREUM L2 FOR TOP NATIVE YIELDS
🟢 KELP DAO | THE FIRST LIQUID RESTAKING PLATFORM FOR LSTS
🟣 MAVERICK PROTOCOL | DEFI INFRA MADE TO CUSTOMIZE, AUTOMATE & INCENTIIZE LIQUIDITY
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Timestamps
0:00 - Intro
5:54 - Prisma vs PrismaLRT
9:44 - Progress in LRT deposits
10:53 - Incentives, stability pool, and LPs for ULTRA
13:02 - Maverick mid-roll
14:11 - Expanding to L2s and tokenized stability pool deposits
17:46 - Prisma and PrismaLRT governed by PRISMA
18:10 - Closing
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🔗 Guest Links 🔗
► Prisma Finance website: https://prismafinance.com/
► Prisma on Twitter: https://twitter.com/PrismaFi
► Richard on Twitter: https://twitter.com/0xbabaramdass
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If you're a DeFi/Web3 builder, contact our team at: https://fourthrevolution.capital/
All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions and not necessarily those of Fourth Revolution Capital. Podcast guests and 4RC may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. As of this recording, both DeFi Dad and Nomatic remain active contributors to Prisma Finance DAO and hold PRISMA. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.

Mar 5, 2024 • 37min
Fraxtal: A Guide to Frax Finance’s New L2
DeFi Dave is the CoFounder/Cohost of Flywheel DeFi and Core Advocate at Frax Finance.
In this episode, we provide a timely guide to Frax Finance's new L2 called Fraxtal. Fraxtal has an upcoming FXTL points airdrop to FXS stakers based on a March 6th snapshot, as well as a continuing weekly program starting March 13th to award stakers, DeFi users, and dApp developers on Fraxtal. Get caught up on the vision behind one of the promising Ethereum L2s, built by the reputable team and community behind Frax stablecoins and Frax DeFi apps.
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🔗 Essential Show Links 🔗
► Youtube: https://youtube.com/@defidad
► Apple: https://tinyurl.com/edgepod
► Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/edgepodspotify
► Linktree: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod
► Follow DeFi Dad: https://twitter.com/DeFi_Dad
► Follow Nomatic: https://twitter.com/Nomaticcap
► Learn about DeFi and Web3: http://defidad.com/
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The Edge Podcast Sponsor Resources
🚀 FLAT MONEY | NEW FLATCOIN AND DELTA-NEUTRAL MARKETPLACE BACKED BY RETH
🌊 SWELL NETWORK | NATIVE LIQUID RESTAKING WITH RSWETH
🦊 METAMASK PORTFOLIO | TRACK AND MANAGE YOUR WEB3 EVERYTHING
💧 INSTADAPP | NEW LENDING AND BORROWING VAULTS WITH FLUID
🧑🌾 MANTLE | THE ETHEREUM L2 FOR TOP NATIVE YIELDS
🟢 KELP DAO | THE FIRST LIQUID RESTAKING PLATFORM FOR LSTS
🟣 MAVERICK PROTOCOL | DEFI INFRA MADE TO CUSTOMIZE, AUTOMATE & INCENTIIZE LIQUIDITY
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Timestamps
0:00 - Intro
5:14 - Background on Flywheel DeFi
15:30 - What is Fraxtal?
19:35 - What are FXTL points?
21:17 - FXS staker snapshot
22:19 - cvxFXS stakers
22:42 - How to stake FXS
23:57 - Airdrops to FXS stakers
26:10 - Maverick mid-roll
27:20 - Gas token for Fraxtal
28:30 - Projects built on Fraxtal
30:03 - Weekly epochs post-snapshot
31:10 - Value accrual to FXS on Fraxtal
34:10 - Fee passthrough with 100% CR
34:53 - End game for Fraxtal
35:53 - Closing
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🔗 Guest Links 🔗
► Flywheel DeFi website: https://flywheeldefi.com/
► Flywheel pod on Fraxtal with Sam Kazemian: https://youtu.be/-JSxpwAMPM0?si=UQ6LHgtPB2UzUHXK
► Fraxtal website: https://www.frax.com/
► Frax Finance: https://frax.finance/
► cvxFXS Staking: https://frax.convexfinance.com/stake
► veFXS Staking: https://app.frax.finance/vefxs
► Frax on Twitter: https://twitter.com/fraxfinance
► Flywheel DeFi on Twitter: https://twitter.com/flywheeldefi
► DeFi Dave on Twitter: https://twitter.com/defidave22
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If you're a DeFi/Web3 builder, contact our team at: https://fourthrevolution.capital/
All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions and not necessarily those of Fourth Revolution Capital. Podcast guests and 4RC may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. Since recording the podcast, DeFi Dad bought and staked cvxFXS prior to the March 6th snapshot. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.

Feb 27, 2024 • 39min
fxUSD: Is This The Best New Stablecoin?|Quick Hit
Cryptovestor is a CVX maximalist and contributor at f(x) and AladdinDAO.
In this episode, we talk about a promising new stablecoin design that might offer greater stability, yield and resilience, called fxUSD. Backed by ETH LSTs and LRTs, fxUSD represents a serious new contender in the stablecoin space. Learn more before its imminent launch!
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🔗 Essential Show Links 🔗
► Youtube: https://youtube.com/@defidad
► Apple: https://tinyurl.com/edgepod
► Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/edgepodspotify
► Linktree: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod
► Follow DeFi Dad: https://twitter.com/DeFi_Dad
► Follow Nomatic: https://twitter.com/Nomaticcap
► Learn about DeFi and Web3: http://defidad.com/
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The Edge Podcast Sponsor Resources
🌊 SWELL NETWORK | NATIVE LIQUID RESTAKING WITH RSWETH
🦊 METAMASK PORTFOLIO | TRACK AND MANAGE YOUR WEB3 EVERYTHING
💧 INSTADAPP | NEW LENDING AND BORROWING VAULTS WITH FLUID
🧑🌾 MANTLE | THE ETHEREUM L2 FOR TOP NATIVE YIELDS
🟢 KELP DAO | THE FIRST LIQUID RESTAKING PLATFORM FOR LSTS
🟣 MAVERICK PROTOCOL | DEFI INFRA MADE TO CUSTOMIZE, AUTOMATE & INCENTIIZE LIQUIDITY
🔵 BLUEBERRY | THE DEFI PRIME BROKERAGE
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Timestamps
0:00 - Intro
5:49 - Background on f(x)
11:00 - Comparing fxUSD vs other stablecoins
14:11 - How fxUSD UI works?
20:39 - Depositing into f(x)
23:07 - Asset(s) supported
24:37 - How to use fxUSD
28:20 - Why pair with PYUSD?
30:00 - Security / audits
34:32 - FXN tokenomics
37:06 - Closing
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🔗 Guest Links 🔗
► f(x) Website: https://fx.aladdin.club/
► f(x) on Twitter: https://twitter.com/protocol_fx
► Cryptovestor on Twitter: https://twitter.com/Cryptovestor77
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If you're a DeFi/Web3 builder, contact our team at: https://fourthrevolution.capital/
All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions and not necessarily those of Fourth Revolution Capital. Podcast guests and 4RC may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. Both Nomatic and DeFi Dad hold FXN tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.


