The Edge Podcast

Proph3t is the anonymous Founder of MetaDAO. In this episode, we discuss one of our favorite trending projects in crypto, MetaDAO, and why the world needs decision-making markets. Inspired by American economist Robert Hanson who proposed the idea back in 2000 to "vote on values, but bet on beliefs," MetaDAO is the first project to put this into practice, where anyone can create, manage, and participate in futarchies. ------ 🔗 Essential Show Links 🔗 ► Youtube: https://youtube.com/@defidad ► Apple: https://tinyurl.com/edgepod ► Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/edgepodspotify ► Linktree: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod ► Follow DeFi Dad: https://twitter.com/DeFi_Dad ► Follow Nomatic: https://twitter.com/Nomaticcap ► Learn about DeFi and Web3: http://defidad.com/ ------ The Edge Podcast Sponsor Resources ☀️ SUMMER.FI | THE BEST PLACE TO BORROW AND EARN IN DEFI 🧙 MERLIN CHAIN | THE RISE OF BITCOIN'S LARGEST LAYER 2 🔥 FBTC | YOUR GATEWAY TO BITCOIN EARNINGS 🍵 MATCHA | THE BEST PRICE ON OVER 5 MILLION TOKENS 🐡 PUFFER FINANCE | LIQUID RESTAKING FOR THE LITTLE FISH 🌕 MOONBEAM | INTEGRATED WEB3 FOR BUILDERS AND USERS ------ Timestamps 0:00 - Intro 3:39 - Founding MetaDAO 5:33 - What is futarchy? 9:00 - Why does Web3 need futarchy? 10:46 - MetaDAO vs Futarchy Protocol 11:24 - Example of decision market for Uniswap fee switch 15:01 - Who are early users of MetaDAO? 16:29 - Could futarchy work for Aave listing collaterals? 19:54 - Comparing MetaDAO vs Polymarket 23:50 - FBTC mid-roll 24:32 - Are MetaDAO decision markets normally a blind bet? 27:43 - Lessons from early users 30:01 - State of MetaDAO expansion 32:30 - What new ideas are being built on decision markets? 34:49 - Drawbacks to this decision markets 38:17 - Manipulation is possible, but not easy 42:50 - Moonbeam mid-roll 43:35 - Feedback from Robin Hanson for MetaDAO 46:30 - Closing 47:09 - MetaDAO to go fully permissionless? ------ 🔗 Guest Links 🔗 ► MetaDAO Website: https://metadao.fi/ ► MetaDAO on Twitter: https://x.com/MetaDAOproject ► Proph3t on Twitter: https://x.com/metaproph3t ► Proph3t's post on MetaDAO: https://x.com/metaproph3t/status/1819173856487395643 ► Robin Hanson's Futarchy Manifesto: https://mason.gmu.edu/~rhanson/futarchy.html ------ If you're a DeFi/Web3 builder, contact our team at: https://fourthrevolution.capital/ All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions and not necessarily those of Fourth Revolution Capital. Podcast guests and 4RC may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.

Alexei Zamyatin is the CoFounder of BOB. In this episode, we review how a new Bitcoin L2 called BOB (Build on Bitcoin) aims to combine the best of Bitcoin and Ethereum for DeFi users. Alexei shares how this hybrid L2 marries the security of Bitcoin with the versatility of Ethereum, why Bitcoin DeFi is so compelling, and how we can get started as early adopters. ------ 🔗 Essential Show Links 🔗 ► Youtube: https://youtube.com/@defidad ► Apple: https://tinyurl.com/edgepod ► Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/edgepodspotify ► Linktree: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod ► Follow DeFi Dad: https://twitter.com/DeFi_Dad ► Follow Nomatic: https://twitter.com/Nomaticcap ► Learn about DeFi and Web3: http://defidad.com/ ------ The Edge Podcast Sponsor Resources ☀️ SUMMER.FI | THE BEST PLACE TO BORROW AND EARN IN DEFI 🧙 MERLIN CHAIN | THE RISE OF BITCOIN'S LARGEST LAYER 2 🧑‍🌾 MANTLE | THE ETHEREUM L2 FOR TOP NATIVE YIELDS 🍵 MATCHA | THE BEST PRICE ON OVER 5 MILLION TOKENS 🐡 PUFFER FINANCE | LIQUID RESTAKING FOR THE LITTLE FISH 🌕 MOONBEAM | INTEGRATED WEB3 FOR BUILDERS AND USERS ------ Timestamps 0:00 - Intro 3:42 - What is BOB? 6:58 - Thoughts on wBTC and its impact on Ethereum DeFi 11:13 - How will BOB compete for DeFi users 19:40 - Mantle mid-roll 20:34 - 4 Phases of BOB Roadmap 28:45 - When BitVM and what is OP_CAT? 38:01 - Moonbeam mid-roll 38:47 - Exploring BOB ecosystem 45:31 - Closing ------ 🔗 Guest Links 🔗 ► BOB Website: https://gobob.xyz/ ► BOB on Twitter: https://x.com/build_on_bob ► Alexei Zamyatin on Twitter: https://x.com/AlexeiZamyatin ------ If you're a DeFi/Web3 builder, contact our team at: https://fourthrevolution.capital/ All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions and not necessarily those of Fourth Revolution Capital. Podcast guests and 4RC may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. DeFi Dad and Nomatic were angels in BOB. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.

Dion Chu and Billy Welch are CoFounders of Term Finance. In this live recording we produce weekly on Twitter/X, we deep dive into the most promising DeFi yields and primitives. This week, we cover how Term powers fixed rate crypto-backed loans via auctions on-chain, and what a predictable fixed rate of return means for the future of DeFi. ------ 🔗 Essential Show Links 🔗 ► Youtube: https://youtube.com/@defidad ► Apple: https://tinyurl.com/edgepod ► Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/edgepodspotify ► Linktree: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod ► Follow DeFi Dad: https://twitter.com/DeFi_Dad ► Follow Nomatic: https://twitter.com/Nomaticcap ► Learn about DeFi and Web3: http://defidad.com/ ------ The Edge Podcast Sponsor Resources ☀️ SUMMER.FI | THE BEST PLACE TO BORROW AND EARN IN DEFI 🧙 MERLIN CHAIN | THE RISE OF BITCOIN'S LARGEST LAYER 2 🧑‍🌾 MANTLE | THE ETHEREUM L2 FOR TOP NATIVE YIELDS 🍵 MATCHA | THE BEST PRICE ON OVER 5 MILLION TOKENS 🐡 PUFFER FINANCE | LIQUID RESTAKING FOR THE LITTLE FISH 🌕 MOONBEAM | INTEGRATED WEB3 FOR BUILDERS AND USERS ------ Timestamps 0:00 - Intro 1:44 - How onchain loan auctions work 6:59 - What a market clearing rate means for DeFi? 9:51 - Behaviors of early lenders and borrowers 17:43 - Sponsor mid-roll 19:39 - Most popular pairs for lending and borrowing 21:44 - New products to build on Term 23:54 - Longer term loans vs 4-week loans 25:37 - Support for Pendle PTs as collateral 26:17 - Scaling demand 29:52 - Term Points 32:54 - Closing ------ 🔗 Guest Links 🔗 ► Term Finance Website: https://www.term.finance/ ► Term Finance on Twitter: https://x.com/term_labs ► Dion Chu on Twitter: https://x.com/dionchu ► Billy Welch on Twitter: https://x.com/bwelch13 ------ If you're a DeFi/Web3 builder, contact our team at: https://fourthrevolution.capital/ All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions and not necessarily those of the hosts. Podcast guests and hosts may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. DeFi Dad and Nomatic were angels in Term Finance's seed round. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.

Michael Bentley is the CEO at Euler Labs. In this episode, we get a first look at Euler V2, the modular credit layer for DeFi. Michael shares what new innovations Euler V2 offers and why we’re excited for what this brings to DeFi lending and borrowing. ------ 🔗 Essential Show Links 🔗 ► Youtube: https://youtube.com/@defidad ► Apple: https://tinyurl.com/edgepod ► Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/edgepodspotify ► Linktree: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod ► Follow DeFi Dad: https://twitter.com/DeFi_Dad ► Follow Nomatic: https://twitter.com/Nomaticcap ► Learn about DeFi and Web3: http://defidad.com/ ------ The Edge Podcast Sponsor Resources ☀️ SUMMER.FI | THE BEST PLACE TO BORROW AND EARN IN DEFI 🧙 MERLIN CHAIN | THE RISE OF BITCOIN'S LARGEST LAYER 2 🧑‍🌾 MANTLE | THE ETHEREUM L2 FOR TOP NATIVE YIELDS 🍵 MATCHA | THE BEST PRICE ON OVER 5 MILLION TOKENS 🐡 PUFFER FINANCE | LIQUID RESTAKING FOR THE LITTLE FISH 🌕 MOONBEAM | INTEGRATED WEB3 FOR BUILDERS AND USERS ------ Timestamps 0:00 - Intro 3:28 - Genesis of Euler Finance 6:04 - Euler V1 flashloan attack and full recovery 11:31 - Euler V2 audits and rebuilding trust 15:18 - What's missing in DeFi lending and borrowing? 17:10 - Overview of Euler V2 24:01 - Types of vaults for Euler V2 32:15 - Mantle mid-roll 33:09 - How V2 compares with benefits of other major protocols 39:40 - Which assets are supported upon launch? 41:34 - What should be built on Euler V2? 43:53 - Moonbeam mid-roll 44:38 - Thoughts on EULER token and points 54:21 - Closing ------ 🔗 Guest Links 🔗 ► Euler Website: https://euler.finance/ ► Euler on Twitter: https://x.com/eulerfinance ► Michael on Twitter: https://x.com/euler_mab ► Euler V2 blog post: https://www.euler.finance/blog/euler-v2-is-live ------ If you're a DeFi/Web3 builder, contact our team at: https://fourthrevolution.capital/ All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions and not necessarily those of Fourth Revolution Capital. Podcast guests and 4RC may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.

DeFi Dave and 0xTerence, core contributors at Dinero, dive into the cutting-edge world of ETH staking. They discuss how apxETH achieves a higher yielding potential, making it appealing for individual investors. The conversation shifts to ipxETH, a product tailored for institutional players, and the necessity for trust in yield generation. They also ponder the future of Bitcoin integration into their offerings and whether apxETH will ever allow restaking. Tune in for insights into the dynamic DeFi landscape!

Tabasco is the Head of Developer Relations at Particle Network. In this episode, we discuss whether Particle Network can unify all crypto apps across all chains through chain abstraction. As Particle Network prepares for Mainnet launch, Tabasco shares their important work to simplify the crypto user experience with one account for any chain, why chain abstraction is more than hype, and how this will lead to greater mainstream adoption of crypto. ------ 🔗 Essential Show Links 🔗 ► Youtube: https://youtube.com/@defidad ► Apple: https://tinyurl.com/edgepod ► Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/edgepodspotify ► Linktree: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod ► Follow DeFi Dad: https://twitter.com/DeFi_Dad ► Follow Nomatic: https://twitter.com/Nomaticcap ► Learn about DeFi and Web3: http://defidad.com/ ------ The Edge Podcast Sponsor Resources ☀️ SUMMER.FI | THE BEST PLACE TO BORROW AND EARN IN DEFI 🧙 MERLIN CHAIN | THE RISE OF BITCOIN'S LARGEST LAYER 2 🧑‍🌾 MANTLE | THE ETHEREUM L2 FOR TOP NATIVE YIELDS 🍵 MATCHA | THE BEST PRICE ON OVER 5 MILLION TOKENS 🐡 PUFFER FINANCE | LIQUID RESTAKING FOR THE LITTLE FISH 💰 TELLER | DEFI'S CASH ADVANCE 🌕 MOONBEAM | INTEGRATED WEB3 FOR BUILDERS AND USERS ------ Timestamps 0:00 - Intro 4:08 - Tabasco's background 7:47 - Why Particle Network? 13:23 - What is chain abstraction? 17:01 - How Particle fits into chain abstraction stack 23:48 - Mantle mid-roll 24:42 - Why chain abstraction is more than hype? 40:52 - Apps made possible by chain abstraction 44:22 - Teller and Moonbeam mid-roll 45:36 - How can we trust Particle Network? 49:22 - When Particle Network Mainnet? 52:06 - Closing and Particle Pioneer program ------ 🔗 Guest Links 🔗 ► Particle Network Website: https://particle.network/ ► Particle Network on Twitter: https://x.com/ParticleNtwrk ► Tabasco on Twitter: https://x.com/tabascoweb3 ► Particle Pioneer Program: https://pioneer.particle.network/ ------ If you're a DeFi/Web3 builder, contact our team at: https://fourthrevolution.capital/ All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions and not necessarily those of Fourth Revolution Capital. Podcast guests and 4RC may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.

Jordan Tonani leads Institutions, Partnerships & Strategy at Index Coop. In this episode, we answer the question "are onchain structured products ready for the spotlight?" As a trailblazer in DeFi since 2020, Index Coop has helped lead the way in building simple products for complex exposure to crypto. These products include sector indices, yield indices, and leverage tokens for ETH and BTC. Jordan shares why he believes their moment in the sun is coming and why their DeFi products will not only be adopted by Wall Street but also built and offered by these institutions onchain! ------ 🔗 Essential Show Links 🔗 ► Youtube: https://youtube.com/@defidad ► Apple: https://tinyurl.com/edgepod ► Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/edgepodspotify ► Linktree: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod ► Follow DeFi Dad: https://twitter.com/DeFi_Dad ► Follow Nomatic: https://twitter.com/Nomaticcap ► Learn about DeFi and Web3: http://defidad.com/ ------ The Edge Podcast Sponsor Resources ☀️ SUMMER.FI | THE BEST PLACE TO BORROW AND EARN IN DEFI 🧙 MERLIN CHAIN | THE RISE OF BITCOIN'S LARGEST LAYER 2 🧑‍🌾 MANTLE | THE ETHEREUM L2 FOR TOP NATIVE YIELDS 🍵 MATCHA | THE BEST PRICE ON OVER 5 MILLION TOKENS 🐡 PUFFER FINANCE | LIQUID RESTAKING FOR THE LITTLE FISH 💰 TELLER | DEFI'S CASH ADVANCE 🌕 MOONBEAM | INTEGRATED WEB3 FOR BUILDERS AND USERS ------ Timestamps 0:00 - Intro 4:33 - Background and overview of Index Coop 11:45 - How leverage tokens work 20:40 - Evolution of DPI and sector indexes 25:54 - Mantle mid-roll 26:48 - PRTs (product revenue tokens) 34:57 - Balancing DAO ownership of PRTs 37:45 - Future of onchain structured products 42:31 - When will institutions build onchain? 45:08 - Teller & Moonbeam mid-roll 46:22 - State of Index Coop DAO 49:12 - Closing ------ 🔗 Guest Links 🔗 ► Index Coop Website: https://indexcoop.com/ ► Index Coop on Twitter: https://x.com/indexcoop ► Jordan on Twitter: https://x.com/jordantonani ------ If you're a DeFi/Web3 builder, contact our team at: https://fourthrevolution.capital/ All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions and not necessarily those of Fourth Revolution Capital. Podcast guests and 4RC may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. DeFi Dad is an advisor to Index Coop. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.

Mike Silagadze and Rok Kopp are CoFounders of ether.fi. In this live recording we produce weekly on Twitter/X, we deep dive into the most promising DeFi yields and primitives, this week being on ether.fi's Cash card. Cash allows us to spend our ether.fi balance on a Visa credit card, without having to off-ramp funds from DeFi to a bank. Given this is a live recording, thank you in advance for your patience with the audio quality! ------ 🔗 Essential Show Links 🔗 ► Youtube: https://youtube.com/@defidad ► Apple: https://tinyurl.com/edgepod ► Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/edgepodspotify ► Linktree: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod ► Follow DeFi Dad: https://twitter.com/DeFi_Dad ► Follow Nomatic: https://twitter.com/Nomaticcap ► Learn about DeFi and Web3: http://defidad.com/ ------ The Edge Podcast Sponsor Resources ☀️ SUMMER.FI | THE BEST PLACE TO BORROW AND EARN IN DEFI 🧙 MERLIN CHAIN | THE RISE OF BITCOIN'S LARGEST LAYER 2 🧑‍🌾 MANTLE | THE ETHEREUM L2 FOR TOP NATIVE YIELDS 🍵 MATCHA | THE BEST PRICE ON OVER 5 MILLION TOKENS 🐡 PUFFER FINANCE | LIQUID RESTAKING FOR THE LITTLE FISH 💰 TELLER | DEFI'S CASH ADVANCE 🌕 MOONBEAM | INTEGRATED WEB3 FOR BUILDERS AND USERS ------ Timestamps 0:00 - Intro 1:34 - Overview of ether.fi 3:31 - What is ether.fi Cash? 6:17 - How ether.fi Liquid works 9:26 - eETH vs eETHs and eETHk 12:23 - ether.fi mobile wallet and Visa card 14:08 - Privacy 15:56 - Mantle mid-roll 16:49 - Tiers of cards 19:59 - Where is Cash available? 24:21 - ether.fi Cash Points 26:34 - Integrated DeFi yields on ether.fi 27:58 - Closing ------ 🔗 Guest Links 🔗 ► ether.fi Website: https://www.ether.fi/products#cash ► ether.fi on Twitter: https://x.com/ether_fi ► Mike on Twitter: https://x.com/mikesilagadze ► Rok on Twitter: https://x.com/koppknows ------ If you're a DeFi/Web3 builder, contact our team at: https://fourthrevolution.capital/ All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions and not necessarily those of the hosts. Podcast guests and hosts may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. DeFi Dad and 4RC are investors in ether.fi. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.

Miri and Lux, CoFounders of Origami Finance, discuss revolutionizing decentralized finance with automated leverage. They introduce 'folding' strategies that make yield farming accessible for everyone. The duo details how their platform withstands market stress, ensuring stable liquidations during downturns. They also explore innovative vault structures and unique yield-generating approaches, like using points, while spotlighting new stablecoin vaults. Listeners gain insights into maximizing crypto yields through user-friendly design and risk management.

Jing is the CoFounder of Solv Protocol. In this episode, we explore Solv Protocol and their mission to build a decentralized Bitcoin reserve for BTCFi. Jing recounts how solvBTC became one of the fastest growing BTC derivatives this year, with over $1.3B in BTC deposited. He shares more on their grand mission to unlock liquidity for BTC holders and enable them with access to a wide array of DeFi apps, including a new BTC liquid staking token they just launched for Babylon, called SolvBTC.BBN. ------ 🔗 Essential Show Links 🔗 ► Youtube: https://youtube.com/@defidad ► Apple: https://tinyurl.com/edgepod ► Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/edgepodspotify ► Linktree: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod ► Follow DeFi Dad: https://twitter.com/DeFi_Dad ► Follow Nomatic: https://twitter.com/Nomaticcap ► Learn about DeFi and Web3: http://defidad.com/ ------ The Edge Podcast Sponsor Resources ☀️ SUMMER.FI | THE BEST PLACE TO BORROW AND EARN IN DEFI 🧙 MERLIN CHAIN | THE RISE OF BITCOIN'S LARGEST LAYER 2 🧑‍🌾 MANTLE | THE ETHEREUM L2 FOR TOP NATIVE YIELDS 🍵 MATCHA | THE BEST PRICE ON OVER 5 MILLION TOKENS 🐡 PUFFER FINANCE | LIQUID RESTAKING FOR THE LITTLE FISH 💰 TELLER | DEFI'S CASH ADVANCE 🌕 MOONBEAM | INTEGRATED WEB3 FOR BUILDERS AND USERS ------ Timestamps 0:00 - Intro 3:58 - Jing's background 4:40 - Solv's mission 6:29 - Who's Solv building for? 8:17 - Building a Bitcoin reserve 9:38 - Is a risk-free BTC yield possible? 11:33 - Popular DeFi strategies for solvBTC 13:36 - Partnership with FBTC 14:39 - Mantle mid-roll 15:32 - How solvBTC works 17:45 - Growing to $1.3B in solvBTC 20:34 - Attracting institutional investors 21:49 - What's BTCFi? 23:52 - Closing ------ 🔗 Guest Links 🔗 ► Solv Website: https://solv.finance/ ► Solv on Twitter: https://x.com/solvprotocol ► Jing on Twitter: https://x.com/jx_solv ------ If you're a DeFi/Web3 builder, contact our team at: https://fourthrevolution.capital/ All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions and not necessarily those of Fourth Revolution Capital. Podcast guests and 4RC may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. 4RC is invested in Solv Protocol. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.