Barely Famous

Delaware-born linebacker Debo Williams joins Kail this week to talk honest, unfiltered life after football, chasing the NFL dream, and becoming a 23-year-old tech entrepreneur. From growing up in Smyrna, grinding his way from an under-recruited high school athlete to the University of Delaware and then transferring to play SEC football at the University of South Carolina, Debo breaks down what college recruiting actually looks like.They get into the realities of what really happens when you don’t get drafted even after calls from most of the league. Debo shares how he turned that uncertainty into purpose by launching SpendHer Hotline, an app that connects real people to real experts for paid advice on anything from podcasting to mechanics.Debo and Kail also talk youth sports culture, parents rearranging their entire lives for kids’ athletics, when it’s time to push vs. when it’s time to pull back, and what to do when your kid is “good” but not a clear D1 star. If you’re a parent of an athlete, a student-athlete, or someone trying to pivot after a dream doesn’t go as planned, this episode is for you.Follow Debo and download SpendHer Hotline now!For full video episodes head to patreon.com/kaillowryThanks for supporting the show by checking out the sponsors!Hiya: for 50% off their best selling children’s vitamin head to hiyahealth.com/famousShopify: Start your one dollar a month free trial period at shopify.com/famousEveryday dose: Get 61% off your first Coffee+ Starter Kit, a free A2 Probiotic Creamer, with over $100 in free gifts by going to everydaydose.com/FAMOUS or entering FAMOUS at checkout.HERS: start your initial free visit at forhers.com/barelyfamous.Willie’s: Order now at drinkwillies.com and use code FAMOUS for 20% off of your first order + free shipping on orders over $95, and enjoy life in the high country.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In today's episode Kail sits down with the Dude Dads for a candid, funny, and unexpectedly tender catch-up that hits everything from joining the “dead dads club,” visiting her estranged father before he passed, and what closure actually feels like. Tom and Jerry open up about losing their dads, addiction in the family, and why the first holidays without someone you love can wreck you.They swap stories about fatherhood, lineage, and the quiet pressure of being “the one who handles it". It’s messy, honest, and weirdly healing exactly the kind of conversation we want you to send to the men you love.This episode is full of laughs, hard truths, and a reminder to keep traditions (and yourself) going. And if you need a new pod for your favorite guy, the Dude Dads want your follows and reviews.Listen to The Dude Dads here and Follow them for more!For full video episodes head to patreon.com/kaillowryThanks for supporting the show by checking out the sponsors!Hiya: for 50% off their best selling children’s vitamin head to hiyahealth.com/famousBoll And Branch:  Now’s your chance to change the way you sleep with Boll and Branch. Get 15% off, plus free shipping on your first set of sheets at bollandbranch.com/barelyfamousOPositiv: Take proactive care of your health at opositiv.com/famous for 25% off your first purchaseMerit: Right now, you can get early access to Merit’s only sale of the year when you go to MeritBeauty.com and use code E A FAMOUS from 11/21-11/23 You will get 20% off site wide- plus a gift with purchase, while supplies last.PAKA: To grab your PAKA hoodie and free pair of alpaca crew socks, head to GO.PAKAAPPAREL.COM/BARELYFAMOUS and use my code BARELYFAMOUS.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week Kail sits down with Jazmin Knighton from MTV’s My Super Sweet 16 for a raw, 20-years-later conversation that goes way beyond the glitz and the glam. Jazmin opens up about being adopted as a teen , reconnecting with biological family, how reality TV edited her voice, and the fallout of internet comments before social media exploded. They unpack foster-care failures, sibling resentment, breaking generational cycles, and what that experience means for Jazmin's motherhood today. Plus: the girls discuss early 20s trends and decide if they're still hot OR not. This episode is honest, vulnerable, and full of perspective for anyone who’s lived through family chaos and built something different.For full video episodes head to patreon.com/kaillowryDon't forget to check out our merch Thanks for supporting the show by checking out the sponsors!Better Help: for 10% off your first month visit betterhelp.com/barelyNutrafol: Start your hair growth journey with Nutrafol nutrafol.com promo code FAMOUSShopify: Start your one dollar a month free trial period at shopify.com/famousQuince: Give yourself the luxury you deserve with Quince! Go to quince.com/famousEveryday dose: Get 45% off your first subscription order of 30-servings of Coffee+ or Bold+ You’ll also receive a starter kit with over $100 in free gifts including a rechargeable frother and gunmetal serving spoon by going to everydaydose.com/FAMOUS or entering FAMOUS at checkout.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Kail sits down with Jemmye Carroll from The Real World & The Challenge for the reality-TV convo we’ve waited years to make happen. They get real about how early fame shaped their lives, grief, and why Jemmye chose to keep her relationships offline. Jemmye breaks down Challenge casting, why she walked away, and which shows she would do next . Kail and Jemmye compare Teen Mom vs. Challenge pressures, talk exit strategies and money, and play “Iconic or Ick” - going through pop culture phenomenons, social media trends and more.For more of Jemmye follow her instagram and tik tok For full video episodes head to patreon.com/kaillowryFor merch head to kaillowry.com Thanks for supporting the show by checking out the sponsors!Boll And Branch:  Now’s your chance to change the way you sleep with Boll and Branch. Get 15% off, plus free shipping on your first set of sheets at bollandbranch.com/barelyfamousHERS: start your initial free visit at forhers.com/barelyfamous.Tempo: For a limited time, Tempo is offering my listeners SIXTY PERCENT OFF your first box! Go to tempomeals.com/FAMOUS.DIME: Head to DimeBeauty.com and get 20% off your first order with code PODCAST20 See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Kail sits down with Dr. Sarah Hensley; social psychologist, researcher, and “Love Doc” to break down attachment styles in real life: secure, anxious, dismissive-avoidant, and fearful-avoidant. They dig into how early childhood shapes adult relationships, the anxious/avoidant dance, and what it actually takes to move toward a secure attachment style . If you’ve ever wondered “why do I pick the same partners?” or “can people actually change?” this one’s for you.For more of Dr. Sarah Hensley (“The Love Doc”) listen to her Podcast: The Love Doc check out her website thelovedoc.com and follow her on socials @DrSarahHensleyLoveDocFor full video episodes head to patreon.com/kaillowryThanks for supporting the show by checking out the sponsors!Hiya: for 50% off their best selling children’s vitamin head to hiyahealth.com/famousNutrafol: Start your hair growth journey with Nutrafol nutrafol.com promo code FAMOUSOPositiv: Take proactive care of your health at opositiv.com/famous for 25% off your first purchaseEveryday dose: Get 45% off your first subscription order of 30-servings of Coffee+ or Bold+ You’ll also receive a starter kit with over $100 in free gifts including a rechargeable frother and gunmetal serving spoon by going to everydaydose.com/FAMOUS or entering FAMOUS at checkout.Wayfair: Head to www.wayfair.com right now to explore their HUGE furniture selection.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lucy Score; indie romance powerhouse joins Barely Famous for her first in-person pod to talk pen names, slow-burn swoon, and building a publishing empire from the ground up. We get the adorable origin of “Lucy,” how a self-published book hit #1 on Amazon, and the role Mr. Lucy plays running the business so she can write.Lucy talks about her brand-new series starter Story of My Life. We dig into writing sprints, why she only turns a book in when she’s truly happy with it, navigating reviews with a thicker skin, audio-book casting, and the mindset shift from scarcity to “there’s room for all of us.”If you love grumpy-sunshine, enemies-to-lovers, big-heart small towns, and behind-the-scenes author chat, this one’s for you.Find Lucy: IG @scorelucy • lucyscore.comShop her books anywhere you buy books (indies encouraged!)See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Two weeks after meeting her dad for only the second time in her life, Kail got the call that he had passed away. In this emotional episode of Barely Famous, Kail sits down with Kristen to talk about grief, estranged parents, and finding closure after years of distance. Kail opens up about what it’s like to lose a parent you barely knew, navigating complicated family relationships, and processing complicated grief, the kind that comes when loss and timing make everything harder to understand.For full video episodes head to patreon.com/kaillowryThanks for supporting the show by checking out the sponsors!Better Help: This episode is brought to you by Better Help. For 10% off your first month visit betterhelp.com/barelyCowboy Colostrum: Get 20% Off with code Famous at www.cowboycolostrum.com. #CowboyColostrumPodEveryday dose: Get 45% off your first subscription order and also receive a starter kit with over $100 in free gifts including a rechargeable frother and gunmetal serving spoon by going to everydaydose.com/FAMOUS or entering FAMOUS at checkoutHiya: For 50% off their best selling children’s vitamin head to hiyahealth.com/famousHERS: Start your initial free visit at forhers.com/barelyfamousMagic Spoon: Get $5 off your next order at magicspoon.com/BARELYFAMOUSNutrafol: Start your hair growth journey at nutrafol.com using promo code FAMOUSOPositiv: Take proactive care of your health at opositiv.com/famous for 25% off your first purchaseSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Daphne Woolsoncroft true-crime podcaster and debut thriller author joins Barely Famous to talk about Night Watcher, her chilling new novel about a Portland radio host who receives a terrifying on-air call that dredges up a serial killer from her past. Daphne shares how years of researching cases for Going West shaped her victim-first approach, why she spotlights lesser-known and BIPOC stories, and how her own family tragedy informs the respect and sensitivity she brings to true crime. We dig into the line between awareness and sensationalism, the cases that haunt her and forensic details in Night Watcher.If you love thrillers, ethical true crime, and behind-the-scenes craft talk, this one’s for you.Buy Night Watcher hereFor full video episodes head to patreon.com/kaillowryThanks for supporting the show by checking out the sponsors!Better Help: for 10% off your first month visit betterhelp.com/barelyNutrafol: Start your hair growth journey with Nutrafol nutrafol.com promo code FAMOUSQuince: Give yourself the luxury you deserve with Quince! Go to quince.com/famousMagic Spoon: Get 5 dollars off your next order at magicspoon.com/BARELYFAMOUSSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Your favorite duo is back together again wreaking havoc. Kail and Matt open up about the loneliness that comes with fame, Matt spills all the tea on his throuple situation and the messy realities behind viral moments. They also talk touring, new music, and how performing became their lifeline. Listen for savage honesty, big laughs, and moments that prove growth isn’t always tidy.For more of Matt check out mattmathews.comFor full video episodes head to patreon.com/kaillowryThanks for supporting the show by checking out the sponsors!Hiya: for 50% off their best selling children’s vitamin head to hiyahealth.com/famousSearch for your newest home on apartments.comOPositiv: Take proactive care of your health at opositiv.com/famous for 25% off your first purchaseBrain.FM: Unlock FREE access to all of Brain.fm for 30 days by going to brain.fm/FAMOUS.Thrive: Go to ThriveMarket.com/BARELYFAMOUS and start saving today. Sale ends 8/31.Willie’s: Order now at drinkwillies.com and use code FAMOUS for 20% off of your first order + free shipping on orders over $95, and enjoy life in the high country.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Bestselling thriller author Noelle Ihli joins Kail to talk about her viral BookTok hits—Such Quiet Girls, Ask for Andrea, None Left to Tell, Run on Red, and Room for Rent. We dig into Noelle’s journey growing up Mormon in Idaho, leaving the church, and finding her voice as a full-time writer. She shares the real cases that inspire her novels; from the Mountain Meadows Massacre (1857) to the Chowchilla school-bus kidnapping. If you love character-driven suspense, true-crime origin stories, and behind-the-scenes craft talk, this episode is for you.For full video episodes head to patreon.com/kaillowryCheck out Barely Famous Merch Thanks for supporting the show by checking out the sponsors!Nutrafol: Start your hair growth journey with Nutrafol nutrafol.com promo code FAMOUSGIFTSearch for your newest home on apartments.comQuince: Give yourself the luxury you deserve with Quince! Go to quince.com/famousEveryday dose: Get 45% off your first subscription order of 30-servings of Coffee+ or Bold+ You’ll also receive a starter kit with over $100 in free gifts including a rechargeable frother and gunmetal serving spoon by going to everydaydose.com/FAMOUS or entering FAMOUS at checkout.HERS: start your initial free visit at forhers.com/barelyfamous.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.