

The Two Trees Podcast
Jon Dillon
We want to help modern people read an ancient book. We’re here to help you get over being bored with your Bible, how to see the patterns and the literary designs the ancient authors of scripture used, as the Holy Spirit led them to write the Bible, Most important of all, we're here to show you Jesus as Deuteronomy 10:17 describes Him: the Lord your God is the God of gods, and the Lord of lords, mighty and awesome.
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May 5, 2026 • 1h 4min
The Mark of Cain
Send us Fan MailIn this episode of The Two Trees Podcast, we explore the story of Cain in Genesis 4, asking what it means to bear God’s image outside the Garden—and what happens when that calling is rejected. Tracing Cain’s motives, his refusal to master sin, and his failure as both priest and brother, we examine how the ground itself becomes a witness to his rebellion and how exile shapes the biblical theme of wandering “east of Eden.” Yet even in judgment, God’s unexpected grace appears in the mysterious “mark of Cain,” not as punishment but protection. This episode challenges us to look beyond the mark itself and wrestle with the deeper question at the heart of the story: why does Cain choose violence, and why does God extend mercy to the undeserving?

Apr 28, 2026 • 18min
Story time with Pastor Jon
Send us Fan MailIt's a dark and stormy night here in Ohio, and Martin and Jon use the opportunity to read and discuss some of Jon's book, "The Way of Eden. https://www.amazon.com/Way-Eden-Resisting-Darkness/dp/B0G9HLLMZ6/ref=sr_1_2?crid=WL0H54WXN4V8&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.Q1rmWAhwAQcqjZIU9FL5-NXnPumP_Nj34IthV0lQFCcIBGlFZ8lcu4MURp8ZC4dqBQgep-vfArcV9cCxTpyaL9M1Rq7lm5a48dSQzWQ9TkPuhpkapGFxfRgRIJsftCDyqcFOEs6rn3u-PaxZHD9aD7DpY9wWTzTG9yGWNhnxJpK9Tv4PcR5SWNgVsuXGmCpdGwMiEmERZUAfJRamaDBC6e3BmZkhXD0l6WWsuDFDJd4.oe3iFPTu3Cw6WfBLi9N98o39IS6o6W2sePjqOj9GM40&dib_tag=se&keywords=the+way+of+eden&qid=1777330814&sbo=RZvfv%2F%2FHxDF%2BO5021pAnSA%3D%3D&sprefix=%2Caps%2C378&sr=8-2

Apr 21, 2026 • 1h 1min
Cains Sacrifice
Send us Fan MailIn this episode of The Two Trees Podcast, we step into the haunting story of Cain and Abel in Book of Genesis 4:1–16 and explore what lies beneath the surface of the first recorded act of worship—and the first act of violence. Why are these brothers bringing offerings in the first place, and what makes Abel’s sacrifice acceptable while Cain’s is rejected? As we trace the role of Eve as life-giver and namer, we begin to see early echoes of civilization, vocation, and identity taking shape east of Eden. But at the center of the story is a divine confrontation: God’s warning that “sin is crouching at the door,” inviting Cain—and us—into a deeper question of what it means to rule or be ruled. Is humanity destined to be a victim or a predator? This episode invites you to wrestle with the tension between calling and corruption, and to consider how the story of Cain is not just about one man’s failure, but a mirror held up to life in exile.

Apr 14, 2026 • 59min
Adam the Namer
Send us Fan MailIn our previous episode, we explored how names in the world of the Bible were never just labels—they carried identity, authority, and relationship. But what happens after humanities fall into sin? In this follow-up episode of The Two Trees Podcast, we trace the story forward—from Adam in Eden to Adam in exile, still speaking, still naming, but now in a fractured world. Drawing from the ancient Near Eastern understanding of names and the biblical story itself, we explore how naming was meant to bless, order, and bring life—and how it becomes distorted after the fall. Yet even east of Eden, Adam names again, calling his wife Eve, “the mother of all living,” a surprising act of hope in the shadow of death . From garments of grace to the guarded tree of life, this episode invites you to consider how humanity still bears the calling to speak life in exile—and how that calling ultimately finds its restoration in the name above every name.

Apr 7, 2026 • 59min
What's in a Name?
Send us Fan MailIn the world of the Bible, names were never just labels—they carried identity, authority, and even power. In this episode of The Two Trees Podcast, we explore how the ancient cultures surrounding Genesis understood naming as an act of ordering the world, and how that context reshapes our reading of Adam in the garden. When God brings the creatures to Adam, this is more than observation—it is a divine invitation into stewardship, priesthood, and participation in God’s rule. But what happens when that gift is distorted? From the blessing and cursing of the tongue to the deeper meaning behind renamed figures in Scripture, this episode invites you to rediscover the weight of words and the calling to speak life in a world shaped by exile.Authors note:. I MADE A MISTAKE. Around 53.26 I said Adam called his wife Ezer that is incorrect he calls her Isah which means woman Ezer is the word translated helper in verse 8. It's the word what describes what the Isah is suppose to be. I apologize.

Mar 24, 2026 • 57min
Martin attends the Theater....and other shocking truths.
Send us Fan MailWe finish our discussion of Adam's exile from the Garden of Eden, and Martin tells us about his new love of theater.

Mar 17, 2026 • 1h 13min
The First Rebellion: What Really Happened in Eden? Exile From Eden: The Beginning of Humanity’s War With God
Send us Fan MailIn Genesis 3 we encounter one of the most important moments in the entire Bible: the fall of Adam and Eve and the exile from the Garden of Eden. But what actually happened in the garden?In this episode of The Two Trees Podcast, we explore the ancient story of the first human rebellion against God’s kingdom. The serpent challenges the rule of God, Adam and Eve seize control for themselves, and the result is the fracture of creation itself.

Mar 10, 2026 • 1h 5min
When is a star more than a star?
Send us Fan MailWe discuss the imagery of stars and the importance of storytelling in scripture.

Mar 3, 2026 • 1h 13min
How does Leviathan fit it? Sea and Chaos Imagery part 2
Send us Fan MailWe continue our study of Chaos and Sea imagery

Feb 24, 2026 • 59min
Chaos and the Seas
Send us Fan MailAncient Near Eastern cultures had some interesting ideas about the sea. Let's begin a conversation about how the Biblical authors made use of the sea to discuss spiritual ideas.


