The Cinematography Podcast

The Cinematography Podcast Episode 314: Luke Cormack For cinematographer Luke Cormack, filming the National Geographic series David Blaine: Do Not Attempt was an exercise in capturing the raw, unscripted moments of human connection and extraordinary feats. Luke leaned into his experience as a wildlife documentarian to patiently wait for the perfect, instinctual moments to unfold. The goal was not to capture polished performances, but the raw, visceral reactions from Blaine and the people he encountered on his global journey. “David's not an actor or a host. We would have to create these 'biospheres of spontaneity.' So he can just get in there and be his most genuine self without you ever saying, 'Oh, stop, David. Can you do that again?' That just doesn't work at all,” says Luke. “You have to constantly be looking for those little pieces of magic and those pieces of magic are usually when you're setting something up or your eye isn't on the ball.” David Blaine: Do Not Attempt is not about magic, but about finding people in cultures around the world who perform real, extraordinary feats that look like magic. The series follows Blaine as he travels to nine countries, including Brazil, India, and Japan, and learns about their unique skills, lifting the veil behind those tricks. For the documentary crew, capturing this "magic" required a dedication to true verité techniques. This involved location scouting to determine optimal camera placements that would feel both intimate and unobtrusive. The producers also prepared the local performers for Blaine's arrival, allowing for natural, unscripted interactions. Luke's strategy often involved a subtle deception. He would keep the cameras rolling long after a scene appeared to have wrapped, patiently waiting for the "in-between moments" that often yielded the most candid footage. “That true verité, I feel like that's where we got all our nuggets. We'd often put everyone at ease as you actually pretend to stop filming,” he says. “When everyone thinks you've got the scene, you just keep rolling. And you kind of look away from the viewfinder a little bit, maybe relax your body language, and that's usually when he'll turn around and say something amazing.” This philosophy of patient observation required the camera crew to be constantly vigilant, nimble, and able to blend into the background. The use of lower-profile Ronin 4D cameras was key to allowing the crew to navigate large crowds without drawing attention. To elevate the visual storytelling, Luke chose high-end prime and zoom lenses. He hired special crews for high-stakes sequences, such as filming with sharks underwater in South Africa or skydiving in the Arctic Circle. The crew’s collaboration was often wordless, staying present and dedicated to capturing authentic interactions. They relied almost exclusively on natural light, repositioning themselves to find the most flattering illumination rather than directing the subjects. The unpredictable nature of Blaine's performances in public spaces also meant that the crew had to be prepared for anything. “We traveled to nine different countries and a lot of it is crowd control,” Luke explains. “Like once you blow someone's mind and they're standing there with a group of 10, it becomes a group of 50 very quickly. And then you're trying to get your shots and get in there and try and get the magic of it. But the whole time, you still have to keep your head on a swivel, have an exit strategy, realize that crowds can get dangerous really quickly, depending on where you are.” This constant state of readiness, combined with a commitment to capturing authentic, unrehearsed moments, allowed Luke and his team to document the genuine wonder, fear, and awe that defines David Blaine: Do Not Attempt. Find Luke Cormack: https://www.lukecormackfilms.com/ Instagram: luke_cormack The Cinematography Podcast website: www.camnoir.com YouTube: @TheCinematographyPodcast Facebook: @cinepod Instagram: @thecinepod Blue Sky: @thecinepod.bsky.social

In a captivating conversation, cinematographer Christophe Nuyens discusses his work on the first six episodes of Andor Season 2. Known for his naturalistic lighting and production collaboration, he reveals how he crafted unique visual identities for distinct worlds like the sunny Mina-rau and the moody Ghorman. He shares insights on using practical sets for authenticity, his philosophy of minimal camera movement, and how documentary experience shaped his storytelling. With a passion for evolving cinematography, Christophe offers a fascinating glimpse into bringing the Star Wars universe to life.

Ksenia Sereda and Catherine Goldschmidt, talented cinematographers behind The Last of Us Season 2, dive into their creative processes. They explore how Ksenia developed a cohesive lookbook to maintain the show's visual consistency while pushing character development forward. Catherine discusses the importance of lighting choices that reflect the characters' emotional journeys. They also share insights on balancing homage to the game with innovative filming techniques, creating intimate moments, and the meticulous planning behind pivotal scenes.

The Cinematography Podcast Episode 311: Jacques Jouffret, ASC Netflix's American Primeval plunges viewers into the harsh realities of a gritty, naturalistic Western winter. Cinematographer Jacques Jouffret, ASC, who shot all six episodes, collaborated closely with director Peter Berg to immerse the audience in the era's unforgiving environment. “That was really a lot of hard work. Pete wanted the audience to feel the difficulty of living in that period,” says Jacques. “He wanted to feel the dirt, dust, grime and the ugliness of it and the violence of it. And I tried to get into that spirit. My job was to really make the audience feel that coldness, the chill that you are open to the elements.” Jacques wanted the audience to feel the cold of American Primeval's harsh winter setting, even as the production continued into summer. One of the most significant challenges was maintaining a consistently overcast sky, and there were few interior locations. During the wintertime, it was easy to shoot wider to get the overcast sky, but the weather was constantly changing. Dutch angles worked not only as a stylistic choice, but also to help hide the sky when it wasn't overcast enough. The crew would strategically shoot close, shoot in the shade, or block the sky with silks. Portraying visceral realism is an important element of Jacques and Berg's collaborations. They have worked together before on films such as Novocaine and Mile 22. “That's one thing that I love working with Pete,” he shares. “You're making the audience feel that this is real, you are watching something that is right there and I'm able to suspend that disbelief. And so that's really always the approach, to make it as real as we can. And yet I'm giving it some style to present more of the emotion, more of the mood, the atmosphere, and where I want the audience to be.” To achieve a blend of raw reality and stylistic emotional depth on American Primeval, Jacques adopted a focused visual strategy, inspired by the legendary director Stanley Kubrick. Kubrick would choose just four or five strong visual ideas, and then repeat them over and over for visual impact. For the series, Jacques established his own core visual tenets: Expansive vistas: Super wide shots to take in the vastness of the Western scenery Dynamic Dutch angles: Wide and close dutch camera angles to increase the feeling of discomfort and danger, while still including visuals critical to the story Intimate compression: Lenses with long focal lengths that compress the image, allowing the audience to be with the character in the moment Juxtaposition of extremes: A deliberate contrast between wide, long shots with everything in focus, contrasted with close-ups on the actors with a wide angle lens. This created a visual language emphasizing the harsh environment, and Jacques avoided medium shots. Find Jacques Jouffret: https://www.jacquesjouffret.com/ Sponsored by Hot Rod Cameras: https://hotrodcameras.com/ The Cinematography Podcast website: www.camnoir.com YouTube: @TheCinematographyPodcast Facebook: @cinepod Instagram: @thecinepod Blue Sky: @thecinepod.bsky.social

Baz Irvine is a talented cinematographer known for his work on Silo Season 2, where he masterfully navigates the visuals of a darker, immersive world. He discusses the challenges of creating Silo 17's eerie atmosphere, using innovative lighting techniques and realistic decay to enhance the drama. Baz reveals how handheld cinematography follows characters closely and shares the thought process behind incorporating a functional flashlight for Juliette. His insights on lighting strategy and his journey in cinematography make for an engaging listen!

The Cinematography Podcast Episode 309: Scott Siracusano The Hulu original horror film, Control Freak, plunges audiences into the unraveling world of Val (Kelly Marie Tran), a motivational speaker tormented by an unrelenting itch on the back of her head. Is it a manifestation of her own mind, or is she falling prey to a parasitic demon from her homeland? Control Freak is a body horror film that delves deep into themes of control, perfectionism, mental health, and generational trauma. Cinematographer Scott Siracusano has known Control Freak writer and director Shal Ngo since 2019. The two made a short, The Box, which went to the prestigious Cameraimage Film Festival in Poland. Their creative partnership continued on another short film, Control, for season two of Hulu’s Bite Size Halloween. When Ngo was invited to expand Control into a feature-length film, Control Freak was conceived. Scott was captivated by the script and eager for the creative challenges it presented. Unfortunately, the film hit several roadblocks and delays before shooting was finally greenlit by the network. As a first-time feature DP, Scott had to meet with producers and pitch himself as the best cinematographer for the film. Championed by Ngo, Scott meticulously prepared a lookbook and presented his scene-by-scene shooting strategy in an hour-long meeting, ultimately securing his role as the film's cinematographer. One of the most significant cinematographic challenges on Control Freak was executing its underwater sequences. Due to a limited budget, there wasn't enough time or money to shoot the actors in real tanks of water. Scott chose to use dry for wet film techniques, where smoke, specialized filters, and dynamic lighting effects are skillfully combined to simulate an underwater environment. Inspiration for this approach came from Dan Laustsen's masterful work in The Shape of Water. “What I realized is that it is truly a less is more situation,” Scott says. “We need to have the caustics of water and moving lights that you would feel on your subject in tandem with atmosphere, and particles that could be added as effects. I was like, 'I think we could pull this off. I think we could actually do this.'” The biggest concern was creating realistic hair and body movement floating in water, so the actors' hair was tied back for these scenes. The production team found a music performance space where they could build a wire rig, enabling the actors to “float.” For close ups, Scott found simply having the actors sit and move around on a yoga ball effectively created a floating effect. Two projectors helped simulate water patterns, and the room was filled with atmospheric haze. Subtle fill light and slight camera movements completed the effect. Ultimately, these practical in-camera effects were so successful that the film required minimal visual effects for its underwater scenes. The lighting and color palette of Control Freak were crucial in establishing a claustrophobic atmosphere and exploring the film's central duality between sanity and madness. "We really wanted to lean into the surrealism and the dreamlike state of everything,” explains Scott. “Moonlight definitely allowed us a little bit more shaping, and being able to hide the monster. I really wanted to have rich, detailed shadows that were never true black—always some detail, no matter how dark the shadows.” Val's house was intentionally kept as an enclosed space, with curtains constantly drawn, immersing the audience in her confinement and heightening their sense of being trapped alongside her. As a horror fan himself, Scott loved creating the look and feel of Control Freak. “It's so cool and fun being on set, in the actual world with the creature there.” His takeaways from lensing his first feature included the importance of faithfully executing the director's vision while remaining adaptable to the unpredictable nature of filmmaking. “Going into a feature, you do everything you can to prep, but you know, just understand that things aren't always going to go according to plan, there's going to be happy accidents, there's going to be things that are just straight up accidents.” Find Scott Siracusano: https://scottsiracusano.com/ Instagram: @scott_siracusano Sponsored by Hot Rod Cameras: https://hotrodcameras.com/ Sponsored by Aputure: https://aputure.com/ The Cinematography Podcast website: www.camnoir.com YouTube: @TheCinematographyPodcast Facebook: @cinepod Instagram: @thecinepod Blue Sky: @thecinepod.bsky.social

Jessica Lee Gagné, a talented cinematographer and director, is celebrated for her pivotal work on Season 2 of "Severance." She discusses her transition to directing, sharing insights on the show's darker aesthetic, influenced by weather during location shoots. Gagné elaborates on her collaboration with the cast and crew, utilizing practical effects and complex lighting techniques that enhance the storytelling. She reflects on her creative process and hints at future projects, including a unique 90s-style erotic thriller.

Special: Adam Bricker, ASC Cinematographer Adam Bricker, ASC chats with Illya at our live podcast event hosted by the Broadcast Education Association at NAB Las Vegas. Adam discusses his early career and education, his breakthrough role as the DP of Chef's Table on Netflix, and his work as the sole cinematographer on all four seasons of the Max TV show, Hacks. Adam enjoys shifting between the documentary style of Chef's Table and the narrative scripted comedy of Hacks. "I want my documentary work to be like a movie, and I want my movies to feel more like documentaries," he says. "So I think that they're obviously different muscles. I've been lucky to do a season of Hacks, and then spend the summer traveling with my friends and shooting Chef's Table and then going back to Hacks." You can watch the current season of Hacks on Max, and the new season of Chef's Table: Legends will be on Netflix April 28. Find Adam Bricker: Instagram @realadambricker Hear our previous episode with Adam Bricker from 2021. https://www.camnoir.com/ep133/ Sponsored by Hot Rod Cameras: https://hotrodcameras.com/ The Cinematography Podcast website: www.camnoir.com YouTube: @TheCinematographyPodcast Facebook: @cinepod Instagram: @thecinepod Blue Sky: @thecinepod.bsky.social

The Cinematography Podcast Episode 307: Johanna Coelho As the cinematographer of all 15 episodes of The Pitt, Johanna Coelho helped create a fresh take on the medical genre's visual style. Executive producer John Wells wanted a feeling of constant urgency and realism to the hospital drama. They chose to treat The Pitt as if it were live theater, meticulously choreographing and blocking every action and movement within the bustling emergency room setting. Most of the episodes of The Pitt were shot in order, which helped with continuity on set. Johanna used the scripts as her blueprint, which carefully detailed character positioning in the background and clearly indicated the point of view for each scene. Her shot lists were fluid, evolving organically from the actors' movements within the space. This approach gave the camera operators remarkable freedom to follow the kinetic energy of gurneys and operating tables as they navigated the ER. The set was entirely open, with few places for the camera people to hide, so the entire crew wore scrubs to blend in. “Because of the way it's shot, the way everyone moves, we do no marks on the set,” says Johanna. “There's no marks, there's no lighting on the ground. It's a 360 set completely.” This required flexibility from the crew to embrace the spontaneous adjustments made by both the actors and the camera team, only doing additional takes when absolutely necessary. With an open set, Johanna and the electrical team had to get creative with their lighting strategy. The lighting was all integrated into the ceiling and run through a dimmer board. Absolutely no stands, flags, or fill lights were on the floor of the set. The gaffer created custom lighting that could be attached to the matte box on the camera and the occasional fill light was handheld on a pole. Cameras were entirely hand held, using a ZeeGee camera rig on a Steadicam arm, enhancing the sense of immediacy. As a result, the actors and crew never had to wait around for lighting or camera setups, which enabled them to shoot at a fast pace, about 9-10 pages per day. “We shoot extremely fast,” explains Johanna. “We come in at call time, we do the blocking and then we're ready to shoot, because the lighting is integrated. It's happening so fast, and we know the space so well. It's mostly the same pace and space all the time.” The immersive world of The Pitt was primarily constructed on a stage at Warner Bros. Studios in Burbank, with select exterior shots filmed on location in Pittsburgh. The production heavily relied on practical effects, employing detailed prosthetics and makeup captured in close-up to amplify the raw and visceral feeling of working in a high-stakes emergency room. “When I read the scripts, I felt it was clear you needed to be immersed in the middle of it,” says Johanna. “It's an experience for the audience, but it was also an experience for the crew shooting it. We were really inside that bubble, inside that ER set with the cast and crew.” You can see The Pitt on Max Find Johanna Coelho: https://www.johannacoelho.com/ Instagram @johanna_coelho Sponsored by Hot Rod Cameras: https://hotrodcameras.com/ Sponsored by Laowa by Venus Optics: https://www.venuslens.net/ The Cinematography Podcast website: www.camnoir.com YouTube: @TheCinematographyPodcast Facebook: @cinepod Instagram: @thecinepod Blue Sky: @thecinepod.bsky.social

Daredevil: Born Again cinematographers Hillary Fyfe Spera and Pedro Gómez Millán were both admirers of the original Daredevil on Netflix. As the lead cinematographer on the new series, Hillary wanted to bring something new to the look of the story. “The goal was to evolve it, to bring it to a more cinematic realm,” she says. This vision was achieved through the use of anamorphic lenses, lending a more elevated and cinematic feel. Influenced by 1970s cinema, particularly The French Connection, they established a strong visual reference point. Production, initially launched in 2022, was interrupted by the writers' strike. This hiatus allowed the showrunners to reassess the existing footage. Upon resumption, the production underwent rewrites and the addition of new material. Hillary was the DP for episodes 1, 2, 3, 6, 7, 8, and 9, while Pedro shot episodes 4 and 5 and additional photography. Their collaborative approach was essential to maintaining a cohesive visual style. “We didn't want every episode to look the same,” says Pedro, “so what can we do to make it better? It's about being a team player and executing that one single vision that everybody's on board for.” A key challenge was visually representing Daredevil's heightened senses due to his blindness. Hillary explains, “One of our challenges that we collaborated on was the sensory stuff. We're trying to represent a visual thing that's not visual, so it was fun to put our heads together and see what worked and what didn't work.” Consistent communication was facilitated by a shared camera crew, ensuring a unified visual approach across episodes. The process kept the production dynamic and engaging. To define the visual world of Daredevil: Born Again, both DPs employed a range of cinematic techniques. Color transitioned from a desaturated palette to increased saturation as the narrative progressed, with a heightened use of red to signify Matt Murdock's return to his Daredevil persona. These choices were meticulously planned in collaboration with the production designer. Hard lighting was strategically used to emphasize that there was nowhere to hide in the courtroom settings. Pedro enjoyed using hard light on Fisk/Kingpin, noting, “Let's take the hard light and make it interesting, especially because these two actors can take it. It goes with the character and the story. He's in the spotlight as the New York City mayor.” Camera movement in the show was also carefully considered. Matt Murdock's world is depicted with handheld shots, conveying a sense of immediacy, while Fisk's world is characterized by locked-down shots, dollies, and wide-angle close-ups, reflecting his power and control. Hillary chose to use many long zooms throughout the show. “We called them 'doom zooms,'” she explains. “This impending doom that's happening in the first season, it's all relentlessly crushing down. And so the zooms are doing the same thing- they're pushing in and targeting one thing.” You can see Daredevil: Born Again on Disney+ Find Hillary Fyfe Spera: Instagram @hillaryspera Find Pedro Gomez Millan: Instagram @pedrogmillan Sponsored by Hot Rod Cameras: https://hotrodcameras.com/ The Cinematography Podcast website: www.camnoir.com YouTube: @TheCinematographyPodcast Facebook: @cinepod Instagram: @thecinepod Blue Sky: @thecinepod.bsky.social