Mormon Stories Podcast

Dr. John Dehlin
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Apr 27, 2015 • 57min

538: Tom Phillips, the Second Anointing, and Apostle Jeffrey R. Holland Holland Pt. 4 - Correspondance with Elder Holland

In June of 2012 I interviewed Tom Phillips, former LDS church stake president in London, England U.K.  In this interview he discusses the following: His early experiences as a bishop and stake president in the LDS church, along with is friendship with LDS apostle Jeffrey R. Holland. His experience receiving a secret/sacred LDS church ordinance called the "Second Anointing," wherein he was anointed by the hands of Elder M. Russel Ballard, and assured exaltation in there hereafter. His subsequent loss of faith over historical and scientific issues with the church. His direct correspondence with then friend, LDS apostle Jeffrey R. Holland, over these troubling issues. The pain, suffering, and ultimate divorce that he and his family experienced as a result of his faith crisis. Additional detail about Tom's story can be found here. At the time I conducted this interview I was in deep discussions with my stake president, Mark Jensen, over my status with the church, and my ability to baptize my son.  Out of fear of church discipline, and as a sign of good will to President Jensen, I decided to not release this episode via Mormon Stories podcast, and instead granted permission to Tom to do with it as he saw fit. Over the subsequent months and years I have come to regret this decision made largely out of fear, and want to publicly apologize to Tom for it.  I now feel it is appropriate to release this interview, not because I seek to show disrespect for the LDS church or its temple ordinances, but because Tom's story a very poignant example of the pain and suffering that can come about as many LDS members continue to experience legitimate struggles with the LDS church's truth claims. Since this interview openly discusses secret/sacred LDS temple ordinances, listener discretion is strongly advised.
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Apr 27, 2015 • 45min

537: Tom Phillips, the Second Anointing, and Apostle Jeffrey R. Holland Holland Pt. 3 - Family Fallout

In June of 2012 I interviewed Tom Phillips, former LDS church stake president in London, England U.K.  In this interview he discusses the following: His early experiences as a bishop and stake president in the LDS church, along with is friendship with LDS apostle Jeffrey R. Holland. His experience receiving a secret/sacred LDS church ordinance called the "Second Anointing," wherein he was anointed by the hands of Elder M. Russel Ballard, and assured exaltation in there hereafter. His subsequent loss of faith over historical and scientific issues with the church. His direct correspondence with then friend, LDS apostle Jeffrey R. Holland, over these troubling issues. The pain, suffering, and ultimate divorce that he and his family experienced as a result of his faith crisis. Additional detail about Tom's story can be found here. At the time I conducted this interview I was in deep discussions with my stake president, Mark Jensen, over my status with the church, and my ability to baptize my son.  Out of fear of church discipline, and as a sign of good will to President Jensen, I decided to not release this episode via Mormon Stories podcast, and instead granted permission to Tom to do with it as he saw fit. Over the subsequent months and years I have come to regret this decision made largely out of fear, and want to publicly apologize to Tom for it.  I now feel it is appropriate to release this interview, not because I seek to show disrespect for the LDS church or its temple ordinances, but because Tom's story a very poignant example of the pain and suffering that can come about as many LDS members continue to experience legitimate struggles with the LDS church's truth claims. Since this interview openly discusses secret/sacred LDS temple ordinances, listener discretion is strongly advised.
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Apr 27, 2015 • 1h 4min

536: Tom Phillips, the Second Anointing, and Apostle Jeffrey R. Holland Holland Pt. 2 - The 2nd Anointing and the Aftermath

In June of 2012 I interviewed Tom Phillips, former LDS church stake president in London, England U.K.  In this interview he discusses the following: His early experiences as a bishop and stake president in the LDS church, along with is friendship with LDS apostle Jeffrey R. Holland. His experience receiving a secret/sacred LDS church ordinance called the "Second Anointing," wherein he was anointed by the hands of Elder M. Russel Ballard, and assured exaltation in there hereafter. His subsequent loss of faith over historical and scientific issues with the church. His direct correspondence with then friend, LDS apostle Jeffrey R. Holland, over these troubling issues. The pain, suffering, and ultimate divorce that he and his family experienced as a result of his faith crisis. Additional detail about Tom's story can be found here. At the time I conducted this interview I was in deep discussions with my stake president, Mark Jensen, over my status with the church, and my ability to baptize my son.  Out of fear of church discipline, and as a sign of good will to President Jensen, I decided to not release this episode via Mormon Stories podcast, and instead granted permission to Tom to do with it as he saw fit. Over the subsequent months and years I have come to regret this decision made largely out of fear, and want to publicly apologize to Tom for it.  I now feel it is appropriate to release this interview, not because I seek to show disrespect for the LDS church or its temple ordinances, but because Tom's story a very poignant example of the pain and suffering that can come about as many LDS members continue to experience legitimate struggles with the LDS church's truth claims. Since this interview openly discusses secret/sacred LDS temple ordinances, listener discretion is strongly advised.
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Apr 27, 2015 • 1h 1min

535: Tom Phillips, the Second Anointing, and Apostle Jeffrey R. Holland Holland Pt. 1 - Tom's Ascent to LDS Leadership

In June of 2012 I interviewed Tom Phillips, former LDS church stake president in London, England U.K.  In this interview he discusses the following: His early experiences as a bishop and stake president in the LDS church, along with is friendship with LDS apostle Jeffrey R. Holland. His experience receiving a secret/sacred LDS church ordinance called the "Second Anointing," wherein he was anointed by the hands of Elder M. Russel Ballard, and assured exaltation in there hereafter. His subsequent loss of faith over historical and scientific issues with the church. His direct correspondence with then friend, LDS apostle Jeffrey R. Holland, over these troubling issues. The pain, suffering, and ultimate divorce that he and his family experienced as a result of his faith crisis. Additional detail about Tom's story can be found here. At the time I conducted this interview I was in deep discussions with my stake president, Mark Jensen, over my status with the church, and my ability to baptize my son.  Out of fear of church discipline, and as a sign of good will to President Jensen, I decided to not release this episode via Mormon Stories podcast, and instead granted permission to Tom to do with it as he saw fit. Over the subsequent months and years I have come to regret this decision made largely out of fear, and want to publicly apologize to Tom for it.  I now feel it is appropriate to release this interview, not because I seek to show disrespect for the LDS church or its temple ordinances, but because Tom's story a very poignant example of the pain and suffering that can come about as many LDS members continue to experience legitimate struggles with the LDS church's truth claims. Since this interview openly discusses secret/sacred LDS temple ordinances, listener discretion is strongly advised.
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Apr 22, 2015 • 50min

534: Micah Nickolaisen Pt. 3 - Brainstorming Secular Communites as a Replacement for Religion

Micah Nickolaisen has been an important participant in the Mormon Internet for the past  three years.  His activism began in 2012 as co-founder of both the "A Thoughtful Faith" and the "Exploring Sainthood" podcasts/communities - both of which sought to encourage thoughtful and faithful LDS Church activity/participation.   After losing his faith/confidence in the LDS Church in 2013, and in reaction to the Kate Kelly and John Dehlin excommunications in 2014/2015, Micah co-led several projects which sought to bring attention/visibility to problems within in the LDS Church.  Micah co-founded the "Strangers in Zion" project, wherein LDS Church members were encouraged to request disciplinary councils (in lieu of resigning their membership).  Micah was also a co-founder of the recent "Any Opposed" initiative wherein several LDS Church members expressed vocal opposition to church policies/practices during the April 2015 LDS General Conference. In this three-part interview Micah discusses his early years of strong devotion to the church.  He then discusses his participation as a pro- and then a post-Mormon activist.  In the final episode, Micah discusses his newfound interest in the formation of secular communities for post-religious individuals (e.g., Sunday Assembly and Atheism 2.0).
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Apr 22, 2015 • 1h 3min

533: Micah Nickolaisen Pt. 2 - Mormon Activism - From "A Thoughtful Faith" to "Any Opposed"

Micah Nickolaisen has been an important participant in the Mormon Internet for the past  three years.  His activism began in 2012 as co-founder of both the "A Thoughtful Faith" and the "Exploring Sainthood" podcasts/communities - both of which sought to encourage thoughtful and faithful LDS Church activity/participation.   After losing his faith/confidence in the LDS Church in 2013, and in reaction to the Kate Kelly and John Dehlin excommunications in 2014/2015, Micah co-led several projects which sought to bring attention/visibility to problems within in the LDS Church.  Micah co-founded the "Strangers in Zion" project, wherein LDS Church members were encouraged to request disciplinary councils (in lieu of resigning their membership).  Micah was also a co-founder of the recent "Any Opposed" initiative wherein several LDS Church members expressed vocal opposition to church policies/practices during the April 2015 LDS General Conference. In this three-part interview Micah discusses his early years of strong devotion to the church.  He then discusses his participation as a pro- and then a post-Mormon activist.  In the final episode, Micah discusses his newfound interest in the formation of secular communities for post-religious individuals (e.g., Sunday Assembly and Atheism 2.0).
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Apr 22, 2015 • 1h 12min

532: Micah Nickolaisen Pt. 1 - Micah's Faith Journey

Micah Nickolaisen has been an important participant in the Mormon Internet for the past  three years.  His activism began in 2012 as co-founder of both the "A Thoughtful Faith" and the "Exploring Sainthood" podcasts/communities - both of which sought to encourage thoughtful and faithful LDS Church activity/participation.   After losing his faith/confidence in the LDS Church in 2013, and in reaction to the Kate Kelly and John Dehlin excommunications in 2014/2015, Micah co-led several projects which sought to bring attention/visibility to problems within in the LDS Church.  Micah co-founded the "Strangers in Zion" project, wherein LDS Church members were encouraged to request disciplinary councils (in lieu of resigning their membership).  Micah was also a co-founder of the recent "Any Opposed" initiative wherein several LDS Church members expressed vocal opposition to church policies/practices during the April 2015 LDS General Conference. In this three-part interview Micah discusses his early years of strong devotion to the church.  He then discusses his participation as a pro- and then a post-Mormon activist.  In the final episode, Micah discusses his newfound interest in the formation of secular communities for post-religious individuals (e.g., Sunday Assembly and Atheism 2.0).
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Apr 16, 2015 • 55min

Bonus: BYU Accreditation Meeting with Students (April 2015)

An April 15th, 2015 six board members from the Northwest Commission on Colleges and Universities had a meeting with BYU students to get the the most authentic feedback possible about religious and academic freedom at BYU -- without the administration present. This is a full audio recording of that meeting.
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Apr 11, 2015 • 1h 45min

531: John Larsen's Mormon Expression

John Larsen is the influential founder and host of Mormon Expression podcast, and of the White Fields Educational Foundation. This is his story.
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Apr 8, 2015 • 1h 29min

530: Kirk and Lindsay Van Allen - Facing Church Discipline for Rejecting Polygamy (D&C 132)

Kirk and Lindsay Van Allen are facing LDS Church discpline for rejecting the LDS doctrine of polygamy (as found in DYC 132).  This is their story.

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