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ChooseFI
Jonathan & Brad explore the world of Financial Independence. They discuss reducing expenses, crushing debt, building passive income streams through online businesses and real estate. How to pay off debt, Crush your grocery bill and travel the world for free. No topic is too big or small as long as it speeds up the process of reaching financial independence.
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Dec 2, 2019 • 1h
Retire Before Mom And Dad | Rob Berger
Rob Berger, founder of DoughRoller and author of Retire Before Mom and Dad, is a personal finance writer who left big law to pursue financial independence. He discusses quitting debt, keeping retirement savings while paying down obligations, index‑fund investing with small value tilts, a core‑satellite stock approach, and life redesign after selling a business.

Nov 29, 2019 • 1h 13min
Year End Tax Planning With Sean Mullaney
Most of your holiday debt happens when retailers convince you waiting in line at 4 AM for a 10% discount is a sound financial decision. Brad and Jonathan unpack the Black Friday madness, then shift gears into listener questions spanning everything from escaping financial abuse to last-minute tax moves before year-end.
Key Topics and Timestamps
[00:01:04] Black Friday Shopping Insights
The stress and absurdity of Black Friday shopping
Personal stories about avoiding crowds and focusing on strategic spending
Reflect on spending habits to avoid unnecessary debt during the holiday season
[00:06:19] Leslie Tain's Empowering Story
Leslie shares her journey out of financial abuse and the importance of financial literacy and hard work
Overcoming challenges can lead to inspiring others
[00:10:39] Importance of Setting Financial Boundaries
The need to say no to prioritize important aspects of life
"Saying no allows you to prioritize what matters most."
[00:16:01] Financial Independence
Understanding that financial independence is about having control, not just money
Importance of financial conversations in relationships
"True control comes from financial independence."
[00:18:05] Talking Tax Planning
Sean from FI Tax Guy discusses year-end tax strategies and planning
Overview of itemizing deductions vs. standard deductions
[00:19:00] Year-End Tax Planning Checklist
Important deductions and planning tactics for the end of the year
Make tax payments and contributions by December 31st to maximize benefits
Key Takeaways
Reflect on spending habits during the holiday season to avoid unnecessary debt [00:01:14]
Engage in financial conversations with your partner to align on goals and strategies [00:16:46]
Use year-end tax strategies to maximize deductions and contributions [00:19:58]
Set up a Solo 401k if self-employed to enhance retirement savings [00:57:24]
Regularly review and update beneficiary designation forms for your accounts [00:47:16]
Notable Quotes
"You can't excel at parenting and work at the same time." [00:08:22]
"Education savings should be a top priority." [00:14:38]
"Discuss finances for the sake of your legacy." [00:16:46]
Resources
ChooseFI.com
FI Tax Guy
Terminology
Roth IRA [00:39:01]
A retirement account that allows individuals to contribute after-tax dollars, which then grow tax-free.
Financial Independence [00:16:01]
Achieving the ability to live off one's savings and investments without actively working.
Tax Loss Harvesting [00:30:34]
Selling investments at a loss to offset taxable gains.
Solo 401k [00:57:24]
A retirement savings plan specifically for self-employed individuals.
Charitable Contributions [00:21:14]
Donations made to charitable organizations that can be tax-deductible.
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Nov 25, 2019 • 58min
FI For Single Parents| Leslie Tayne
What if the financial habits you learned as a child—watching your parents manage money—secretly programmed you to repeat the same patterns in your own relationships? Leslie Tain grew up in a household where her father handled all the finances. She went on to marry someone who also took complete control of the money, leaving her unaware that they were accumulating significant debt. As a financial attorney with over 20 years of experience and author of "Life and Debt," Leslie now helps others avoid the same trap.
Leslie's story reveals how financial dependence in a relationship can quietly erode your autonomy. When her marriage deteriorated, she discovered the importance of understanding financial matters firsthand, regardless of who traditionally "handles the money." Through her experiences as both a divorcee and an attorney, she advocates for financial literacy as a form of self-protection and independence.
Key Topics
Introduction to Leslie Tain [00:01:55] — Leslie's professional background as a financial attorney and her motivation for discussing financial independence.
Leslie's Early Financial Experiences [00:02:19] — How childhood experiences shape adult financial behavior and decisions.
Recognizing Financial Red Flags [00:07:37] — Warning signs in relationships regarding financial control and communication.
Financial Independence Insights [00:18:02] — Why financial independence matters for everyone, regardless of gender.
Managing Sports and Finances [00:47:30] — The cost of youth sports and balancing financial commitments as a parent.
Key Lessons
Communication is crucial [00:27:40] — Have open discussions about finances in relationships from the start.
Seek help early [00:51:00] — Don't wait until you're drowning in debt to reach out for professional advice.
Teach financial literacy [00:40:19] — Educate children about the value of money and the importance of independence.
Assess before acting [00:24:08] — When overwhelmed by debt, step back, assess the full picture, and consult trusted professionals who understand a broad range of options.
Notable Quotes
"Financial dependence compromises your autonomy." [00:18:25]
"Always ask financial questions early in relationships." [00:20:09]
"Debt affects everyone, regardless of background." [00:19:57]
"Prepare for inevitable financial challenges." [00:34:00]
"Prioritize saving for education over spending on sports." [00:50:12]
Terms to Know
Financial Independence [00:18:00] — Having sufficient personal wealth to live without actively working for basic necessities.
Debt Psychology [00:21:30] — The emotional and psychological effects caused by debt burdens.
529 Plan [00:50:12] — A tax-advantaged savings plan designed to encourage saving for future education costs.
Resources
Life and Debt by Leslie Tain — taynellaw.com/book [00:01:55]
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Nov 18, 2019 • 54min
154 | How to Hack the FAFSA for College Funding
Financial aid experts Brian Eufinger and Seonwoo Lee share strategies for hacking the FAFSA to graduate debt-free. Topics include optimizing FAFSA for favorable outcomes, navigating financial aid in blended families, maximizing aid eligibility through smart financial decisions, analyzing 529 plans and state tax deductions, using HELOC for college funding, and early planning for college costs.

Nov 8, 2019 • 1h 4min
Can I Retire Yet? A Drawdown Case Study | Big ERN
After years of meticulous saving, the real challenge begins: pulling money out without the panic. Becky and Steven have built a solid nest egg, but Becky admits that withdrawing funds feels like "stabbing herself in the heart." This episode tackles that exact psychological hurdle with Big Earn (Karsten) from Early Retirement Now, who brings his comprehensive sequence of return analysis to their real-world case study.
Brad and Jonathan walk through Becky and Steven's drawdown plan, covering the critical first five years of retirement, the math behind delaying social security to age 70, and how Roth conversions can ease the tax burden. Big Earn's verdict? An $80,000 initial withdrawal is viable — but only with the right strategy and the confidence to execute it.
Key Topics
Becky and Steven's Case Study — [00:06:01]
Their journey from accumulation to withdrawal, addressing the emotional resistance to drawing down principal. Big Earn emphasizes: "You should do your withdrawals confidently because that's what your retirement should be about."
Sequence of Return Risk — [00:04:27]
The first five years of retirement can make or break long-term sustainability, especially if markets stumble early.
Social Security Strategy — [00:09:32]
Waiting until age 70 maximizes benefits and reduces the strain on portfolio withdrawals.
Roth Conversions and Tax Planning — [00:17:01]
Structuring conversions to minimize lifetime tax liability while maintaining flexibility.
Final Verdict — [00:47:11]
Big Earn confirms Becky and Steven can retire comfortably with an $80,000 starting budget.
Key Takeaways
Delay Social Security: Waiting until 70 maximizes income and reduces portfolio pressure. [00:07:15]
Build a Multi-Phase Withdrawal Plan: Adjust spending as you move through retirement stages. [00:08:02]
Review Tax Implications Annually: Ongoing assessment keeps long-term taxes in check. [00:25:57]
Notable Quotes
[00:03:42] "Withdraw confidently—your retirement deserves it."
[00:04:09] "Retirement is about enjoyment—don't deprive yourself."
[00:30:20] "Exercise caution with bucket strategies in retirement."
Chapters
[00:00:53] Introduction
[00:06:01] Becky and Steven's case study discussion
[00:09:32] Social security benefits
[00:17:01] Roth conversions and tax implications
[00:47:11] Final verdict on retirement readiness
Terminology
Sequence of Return Risk — [00:04:09]
The risk of negative returns early in retirement, which can erode portfolio sustainability.
Drawdown — [00:01:23]
The period during which you withdraw from savings, especially in retirement.
Roth Conversion — [00:17:19]
Converting traditional IRA funds to a Roth IRA for tax-free growth.
Related Resources
Becky's case study on Early Retirement Now — [00:48:20]
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Nov 4, 2019 • 57min
152 | Starting Your FI Journey Later in Life
Starting from zero at age 50 sounds like a financial death sentence — but Becky Heptig proved that wrong, reaching financial independence in just 13 years. Becky and her husband spent the first 25 years of their marriage making poor financial decisions, living paycheck to paycheck despite good salaries. At 50, they faced crushing debt and saw no way out. Then a combination of Dave Ramsey's budgeting principles, ChooseFI strategies, and resources like the Retirement Manifesto transformed their trajectory. Their story proves that simple math — not perfect timing — drives financial success.
Key Topics Discussed:
Becky's Financial Background (00:03:06)
Good salaries but no financial planning; lived paycheck to paycheck.
Challenges Faced (00:08:35)
Debt accumulation leading to fear and financial distress.
Turning Point with Dave Ramsey (00:17:21)
Introduction to budgeting and the envelope system helped regain control.
Current Financial State and Impact of ChooseFI (00:32:17)
Positive financial changes and strategies developed after finding ChooseFI's resources.
Generosity and Giving Back (00:40:20)
Importance of being generous even in wealth accumulation stages.
Hot Seat Questions (00:47:20)
Quick questions leading to personal insights and tips.
Final Thoughts (00:55:08)
Emphasis on the message that it is never too late to change your financial path.
Key Takeaways:
Start with Budgeting: Utilize envelope systems to manage spending effectively. (00:25:47)
Forgive Financial Past: Evaluate and forgive past financial mistakes as a step towards recovery. (00:46:45)
Incorporate Generosity: Begin to incorporate generosity into your financial journey, regardless of current wealth. (00:40:20)
Notable Quotes:
"It's never too late to turn your finances around!" - Becky (00:46:03)
"Debt can be overwhelming, but there's always a way out!" - Becky (00:10:14)
"Acknowledging the need for change is the first step!" - Becky (00:17:21)
"If you can't eat it, we're not buying it." - Becky (00:20:22)
"The best time to start your financial journey is now!" - Becky (00:46:09)
Related Resources:
Dave Ramsey's Total Money Makeover (00:18:13)
Jim Collins' Simple Path to Wealth (00:31:42)
Retirement Manifesto by Fritz (00:33:46)
Episode Mentions:
Episode 100: The Story of Financial Independence (00:56:25)
Episode 13: Budgeting Techniques with Dave Ramsey (00:17:26)
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Nov 1, 2019 • 56min
Fit Waist Fat Wallet
Most people assume their first attempt will be close to perfect—whether it's a workout plan, a diet, or even a website layout. The truth? You're almost certainly wrong. Brad Barrett learned this the hard way in online marketing: tiny tweaks to wording or design could double conversion rates overnight. Now he and Jonathan Mendonsa are applying that same split testing mindset to something far more personal—your health, fitness, and nutrition habits.
In this episode, Jonathan, Brad, and guest MK explore how making one small change at a time and measuring the results can transform your approach to wellness. They discuss the critical role of sleep quality, the pitfalls of deprivation-based diets, and why "never take two days off" might be the simplest fitness rule that actually works. The conversation challenges the all-or-nothing mentality many people bring to health goals, advocating instead for incremental experimentation that reveals what truly works for your body.
Key Topics Discussed
Introduction to Split Testing [00:01:12]
The concept of split testing and its application in personal and professional growth.
Understanding Split Testing [00:01:36]
Brad shares insights about the significant impact of small changes in marketing strategies and how this principle extends beyond business.
Applying Split Testing to Health [00:05:12]
MK shares personal experiences applying split testing principles to health and fitness optimizations.
Importance of Sleep [00:09:05]
Sleep as a cornerstone of health and performance.
Fitness Routines and Sustainability [00:21:06]
Sustainable fitness routines and how goal setting plays into longer-term health improvements. Key advice: "Never take two days off, never three days off; never go a week without doing something hard."
Nutrition Strategies [00:32:22]
How to experiment with various diets for personal optimization and the importance of hydration.
Key Quotes
"Continual testing is essential for improvement; rarely will you get it right the first time." [00:04:30]
"Start small; even a minute walk can create significant change over time." [00:31:02]
"Awareness is crucial to understanding how food impacts your well-being." [00:36:30]
"Sustainable diets never feel like punishment." [00:13:13]
"Challenge yourself regularly to maintain progress." [00:28:40]
Actionable Takeaways
Experiment with different foods to see how they affect your energy and cravings [00:36:30]
Create a consistent sleep environment to improve your sleep quality [00:19:06]
Find a physical activity that you enjoy and stick with it [00:28:04]
Assess your current diet and identify one change you'd like to test [00:36:30]
Commit to improving your sleep environment with blackout curtains or temperature control [00:14:37]
Resources
Sleep Smarter by Shawn Stevenson [00:15:04]: https://www.sleepsmarterbook.com/
Related Episode:
Episode 009: Skinny Waste, Fat Walk [00:49:55]
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Oct 25, 2019 • 58min
Goals vs Systems
Most people drift through their finances paycheck to paycheck, aware something's off but never stopping to diagnose the problem. Jonathan Mendonsa and Brad Barrett break down the unsexy but essential first step: tracking where your money actually goes. Beyond spreadsheets and apps, they explore how identity statements and systems—not willpower—reshape your relationship with money. The episode balances tactical advice (building a net worth statement, evaluating purchases) with mindset shifts that turn budgeting from punishment into possibility.
Timestamps and Major Topics
[00:00:00] Introduction to FI 101: Overview of tracking spending as a foundational step to financial independence.
[00:00:58] The Importance of Tracking Spending: Discusses why understanding your spending habits is essential.
[00:01:34] Mindset and Financial Independence: The effect of mindset on financial habits and success.
[00:07:17] Evaluating Purchases: Slow down and ask yourself if a purchase brings value to your life.
[00:09:21] Applying a Decision-Making Framework: Use this framework for all life decisions, not just finances.
[00:15:18] Building Your Financial Blueprint: Discusses the importance of a comprehensive financial plan.
[00:40:14] Creating a Net Worth Statement: Steps on how to evaluate what you own versus what you owe.
Key Topics
Understanding your finances begins with tracking your spending, which lays the foundation for achieving financial independence. The hosts discuss recognizing your current financial habits and the role of mindset in managing finances effectively. They emphasize identifying your expenses—both fixed and variable—and maintaining a comprehensive view of your income and outflow. By doing so, listeners can create a financial plan that aligns with their lifestyle goals and values. The episode explores how habits and systems, rather than mere goals, dictate long-term success in personal finance. The conversation also touches on the significance of community support in this journey, encouraging individuals to engage in open discussions about financial decisions and strategies.
Start tracking your monthly expenses to understand your financial habits. [00:23:05]
Create an identity statement focused on your financial mindset and values. [00:17:12]
Evaluate your purchasing decisions by considering their value in your life. [00:07:17]
List out all your expenses to see where you can cut back. [00:23:05]
Create a net worth statement to get a holistic view of your finances. [00:40:26]
Quotes
"Track your spending to achieve financial independence!" [00:00:58]
"Align your actions with your goals." [00:10:14]
"Slow down to evaluate your purchases." [00:07:17]
"Use this framework for all life decisions." [00:09:21]
Terminology
Financial Independence: The state of having sufficient personal wealth to live without having to work actively for basic necessities. [00:00:58]
Expense Tracking: The process of monitoring your spending patterns to see where your money goes. [00:23:05]
Mindset: The established set of attitudes held by someone, particularly in relation to achieving financial goals. [00:01:34]
Net Worth: The total assets minus total liabilities of an individual, providing a measure of financial health. [00:40:14]
Related ChooseFI Episodes
Episode 017: Interview with Brandon from The Mad Scientist [00:03:33]
Episode 150: Discussion with Diana [00:17:12]
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Oct 21, 2019 • 47min
Accountability | Diania Merriam
What if your dream of becoming the world's highest-paid female CEO turned out to be someone else's dream entirely? Diana Merriam shares her journey from $30,000 in debt and corporate ambition to discovering what wealth actually means. After finding the FIRE movement, she rebuilt her financial life through accountability groups, particularly the Reputable Women's Development Club, where members supported each other's goals. A pilgrimage on the Camino reshaped her understanding of identity beyond career titles, leading her to value peace, relationships, and personal fulfillment over status. Now she's organizing the EconoMe Conference to build community around financial independence principles.
Key Takeaways
The FIRE Movement changed Diana's perspective on finances and allowed her to escape debt
Participation in accountability groups was instrumental in her journey toward financial independence
The EconoMe Conference aims to create a community for sharing financial independence principles
Diana's journey emphasizes the importance of balancing career ambitions with personal fulfillment and relationships
Timestamps
[00:02:07] Introduction to Diana Merriam
[00:02:24] Diana's Financial Journey — Diana reflects on her early financial habits that led to $30,000 in debt
[00:04:46] The Importance of Accountability Groups — Overview of the Reputable Women's Development Club and its role in supporting members
[00:18:26] Transitioning from Career Focus to Life Balance — Discussion about moving from a work-centered life to valuing peace, relationships, and personal fulfillment
[00:23:17] Diana's Shift in Mindset — How her experiences on the Camino pilgrimage reshaped her identity and approach to life
[00:32:41] Introducing the EconoMe Conference — Diana explains her initiative to create a platform for financial independence discussions
[00:34:06] Information on the EconoMe Conference and how to register
[00:42:01] Key insights on life changes and personal stories
[00:45:22] Emphasizing curiosity over fear for personal growth
Key Quotes
"You should be doing this, here are the tools you need, now go out and get it." — Practical tips empower you to reach your goals. [00:11:18]
"Even when things feel really bad right now, it can switch in a moment." — Your circumstances can change drastically in an instant. [00:42:01]
"Let your curiosity be bigger than your fear." — Embrace curiosity over fear for personal growth. [00:45:22]
"It's not about the highest paid female CEO; it's about peace of mind, time, space, happiness, relationships." — Focus on what truly matters: peace, happiness, and relationships, not status. [00:14:53]
Action Items
Join an accountability group to support your financial goals. [00:05:37]
Document your goals and progress for accountability. [00:08:10]
Explore opportunities to share resources within your community. [00:27:28]
Attend the EconoMe Conference for networking and learning. [00:33:35]
Related Resources
EconoMe Conference Website: economeconference.com
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Oct 17, 2019 • 56min
Whole Life Insurance
They unpack a creative Old Navy stacking hack that cut clothing costs to pocket change. They dig into why whole life insurance confuses buyers and compare term vs whole life pricing. College insurance plans and guaranteed payouts get evaluated against market investing. Practical takeaways include when whole life might be useful and smart strategies for employer-provided coverage.


