

ChooseFI | Financial Independence Podcast
ChooseFI
Jonathan & Brad explore the world of Financial Independence. They discuss reducing expenses, crushing debt, building passive income streams through online businesses and real estate. How to pay off debt, Crush your grocery bill and travel the world for free. No topic is too big or small as long as it speeds up the process of reaching financial independence.
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Feb 23, 2020 • 1h 16min
168 | Time Management and Productivity for Financial Independence
The average person checks their phone 150 times per day — yet most can't name what they accomplished yesterday. Jonathan Mendonsa experienced this firsthand: buried in busyness, he didn't have time to read a book about productivity until a flight delay forced his hand. He finished Make Time by Jake Knapp and John Zaratsky before landing, and immediately started reshaping his days.
Brad Barrett and Jonathan break down the book's four-step framework — Highlight, Laser, Energize, Reflect — designed to help you reclaim attention from "infinity pools" (endless content feeds) and redirect it toward what matters. Jonathan shares how choosing one daily highlight gave him clarity and purpose, while Brad reflects on the tension between meeting others' demands and pursuing personal goals. They tackle smartphone compulsion, email addiction, and the cognitive drain of constant task-switching, offering specific tactics you can implement today.
[00:00:41] Introduction to Make Time
Jonathan's experience reading the book and immediate application of its principles
Brad's connection with John Zaratsky and introduction to the book
[00:08:04] Daily Highlight Concept
Choosing one key highlight at the start of each day for clarity and purpose
"What do I want to be the highlight of my day?"
"There's something magical that happens when you start the day with one high-priority goal."
[00:15:27] Addressing Distractions
"Infinity pools" — apps and services that provide endless content
How technology pulls attention away from meaningful work
Impact of smartphones and social media on focus
[00:21:35] Reclaiming Time from Technology
Removing distracting apps from your phone
"You can reclaim that time and attention... by removing apps."
[00:30:09] Attention Residue
Cognitive load from switching between tasks
Why multitasking prevents full focus
[00:33:24] Make Time Framework
Four steps: Highlight, Laser, Energize, Reflect
How each step helps prioritize tasks and manage time
[00:59:50] Personal Sprints
Focused efforts over multiple days to achieve significant tasks
[01:00:19] Daily Reflection
"There's no failure. Tomorrow is a new day."
Reviewing progress and adjusting strategies
[01:02:04] Listener Q&A
Implementing Make Time strategies
Scheduling specific times for email checks to reduce distractions
Related Resources:
Make Time by Jake Knapp and John Zaratsky [01:02:06]
Action Items:
Set a specific highlight for tomorrow morning [00:08:04]
Remove at least one distracting app from your phone [00:21:35]
Reflect on your day and identify methods to improve tomorrow [01:00:19]
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Feb 20, 2020 • 1h 6min
Should I Refinance My Mortgage? R
Most homeowners don't realize they're paying tens of thousands more than necessary on their mortgage. Refinancing your home can lead to significant savings if done thoughtfully. Key considerations include understanding mortgage rates, the importance of knowing your loan-to-value ratio, and possible fees associated with refinancing. The hosts reveal how achieving even a 1% drop in interest can save thousands over the life of a mortgage. They emphasize the psychological aspects of saving and investing, highlighting behavioral nudges such as auto-enrollment in 401ks as drivers of increased savings rates. Furthermore, they discuss the importance of comparing offers from different lenders and leveraging existing relationships for competitive rates. The episode culminates with a conversation about tools available for financial planning and the significance of taking action towards financial independence.
Introduction to Refinancing [00:00:00]
Current Mortgage Rates and Market Trends [00:01:02]
Discussion on the recent mortgage rate changes and their implications for homeowners.
Importance of 401k Contributions [00:05:39]
Increase your 401k contribution by 1% this week for long-term savings benefits. Contact your HR department and consider increasing your contribution by a small percentage annually.
Understanding Loan-to-Value Ratios [00:22:30]
Explanation of loan-to-value ratios and their impact on refinancing terms. This measures the percentage of your mortgage in relation to your home's value; a lower ratio typically results in better loan terms.
Breakdown of Fees and Saving Strategies [00:16:00]
A detailed overview of potential refinancing fees and strategies to minimize costs. Fees may include origination fees, appraisal fees, and points, which can vary widely among lenders.
Interview with Steve Chen, Founder of NewRetirement [00:40:12]
Introduction of retirement planning tools that help users manage their financial future effectively.
Community Feedback and Local Events [00:59:26]
Closing Remarks [01:05:40]
Key Actions:
Review your current mortgage rate and explore refinancing options, especially if saving over 1%.
Set a goal to increase your 401k contribution by 1% before the end of the month.
Research and compare offers from different lenders to ensure cost-effectiveness.
Notable Quotes:
"If you can take one percentage point off the interest rate that you're paying on your home, that is pretty freaking compelling." [00:12:49]
"This is the easiest way to get a hundred percent return on your money instantly." [00:08:49]
Resources:
New Retirement: newretirement.com/chooseFI
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Feb 13, 2020 • 46min
It's A Small World After All
A $5,000 hospital bill landed in Jonathan's mailbox, but instead of panic—or acceptance—he made one phone call and saved thousands. This episode tackles the listener challenges and voicemails that show financial independence in action: from donating plasma for $400 a month to negotiating medical debt to understanding military benefits most service members miss.
Key Topics & Timestamps:
[00:01:02] Experiments in Financial Independence
The $1,000 challenge: raising money through side hustles and selling things
Andrew and Zach test internet money-making claims in real life
[00:02:21] Plasma Donation Experience
Andrew details donating plasma for extra cash
Potential earnings and actual process discussed
[00:08:30] Healthcare Costs Discussion
Jonathan shares how a personal medical bill turned into a negotiation lesson
The mechanics of high-deductible healthcare plans
[00:20:17] FI Terminology
Explanation of financial independence (FI) and its implications
[00:23:27] Documentary Series Announcement
Upcoming series featuring people new to FI
Application open for community members to participate
[00:27:22] Pop-Up Business School Announcement
Free two-week business school event in Charleston
Entrepreneurship without significant capital
[00:37:00] Local Events Highlight
Overview of upcoming community events
Local engagement in the FI community
[00:44:00] Drawing for Book Giveaway
Book giveaway details
Key Quotes:
"Never hesitate to ask for a better deal!" [00:10:36]
"Understanding your healthcare plan can save you thousands." [00:09:21]
"You can make up to $400 a month by donating blood." [00:02:21]
"It's amazing to hear from people who have done it, but it's hard to remember those first couple of steps." [00:25:35]
"There's a gap, but a lot of people are receiving benefits." [00:18:27]
Related Resources:
ChooseFI Travel Rewards Course [00:32:41]
Pop-Up Business School [00:27:40]
Terminology:
FI - Financial Independence, the state of having sufficient personal wealth to live without having to work actively for basic necessities. [00:20:17]
Pop-up business school - An informal educational event aimed at teaching entrepreneurship skills in a hands-on and accessible way. [00:27:22]
Plasma donation - A process where an individual donates plasma, the fluid part of blood, usually for medical use. [00:02:21]
TSP - Thrift Savings Plan, a retirement savings plan for federal employees and members of the uniformed services. [00:20:45]
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Feb 9, 2020 • 1h 3min
166 | How to Live on $25,000 a Year and Pay Off Student Loans
Court and Nick turned six figures of student loan debt into millionaire status within nine years while living on under $25,000 annually. Their Calgary-based family of three maintains this lifestyle not through deprivation, but by ruthlessly cutting expenses that don't bring joy while investing in what does. Their strategy combines aggressive debt payoff (eliminating $110,000 in student loans in two and a half years), house hacking to slash housing costs, and a cooking-at-home approach that keeps food spending minimal without sacrificing quality. The couple credits a shared financial mindset as their key to success, treating money decisions as a team sport from day one.
Timestamps
[00:00:43] Introduction to Court's Story
[00:01:46] Living on $25,000 a Year
[00:03:45] House Hacking Strategies
[00:04:55] Mindset Around Spending
[00:06:01] Debt-Free Journey
[00:12:07] Financial Independence Mindset
[01:00:45] Career Ownership and Advocacy
[01:00:51] Final Thoughts and Advice
Key Points
Cut the Fluff, Not the Joy: Focus spending on what genuinely brings value and eliminate everything else ([00:02:34])
Shared Mindset Required: Financial independence requires partners to align on goals and communicate openly ([00:06:09])
Rapid Debt Elimination: Paid off $110,000 in student loans within two and a half years through prioritized aggressive payments ([00:12:01])
House Hacking: Renting out portions of their home significantly reduced housing costs ([00:03:45])
Home Cooking Strategy: Preparing 95% of meals at home keeps food expenses low without sacrificing quality ([00:02:34])
Travel Rewards Leverage: Strategic use of travel rewards enables affordable experiences without budget impact ([00:08:45])
Action Items
Evaluate current expenses to identify what can be eliminated ([00:05:33])
Set financial goals with your partner and establish open communication about money ([00:10:00])
Consider house hacking to lower housing costs ([00:03:45])
Notable Quotes
"We've just kind of figured out a way to eliminate the fluff." ([00:02:34])
"It's not like we're living this deprived life... we've just focused on what truly brings joy." ([00:04:55])
"The mindset is the biggest thing to reaching financial independence." ([00:06:07])
"We each respectively killed our student loans, which is pretty unheard of." ([00:12:01])
"There's no one else looking after you and your career as much as you are." ([01:00:45])
Resources
Mr. Money Mustache ([00:54:54])
Your Money or Your Life ([00:54:19])
Key Terminology
House Hacking: A strategy to reduce housing costs by renting out portions of a residential property ([00:03:45])
Financial Independence (FI): Achieving a level of wealth that allows living without traditional employment ([00:12:01])
Travel Rewards: Points or benefits earned through travel-related expenditures that can be redeemed for free travel or lodging ([00:08:45])
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Feb 6, 2020 • 55min
Do You Need VTSAX? Vanguard vs Fidelity vs Schwab Index Funds
You panic-sold during this week's market dip—or you almost did. Brad and Jonathan field listener questions on how to ride out stock market volatility without sabotaging your long-term wealth. This mashup covers the emotional pitfalls of investing, tax-efficient account choices, and maximizing employer retirement matches without leaving money on the table.
Key Topics & Timestamps
[00:01:00] Q&A and Market Discussion
The week's stock market swings set the stage for a deep look at investor psychology and portfolio discipline.
[00:02:00] Understanding Emotional Investing
"Prepare for the emotional rollercoaster of investing." [00:02:09]
[00:06:00] The Importance of an Investor Policy Statement
An Investor Policy Statement acts as your decision-making guardrail when markets turn turbulent.
Action Item: Create an Investor Policy Statement to clarify your investment strategy. [00:06:00]
[00:15:00] Benefits of Low-Cost Index Funds
Broad market exposure with minimal fees compounds over decades—chasing active fund performance rarely does.
[00:39:00] Traditional vs. Roth Accounts
"Capital gains tax rates are very favorable." [00:43:39] Choosing the right account type hinges on your current and projected tax brackets.
[00:46:00] Maximizing Employer Match Contributions
Some employers spread their match over the full year. Max out your 401(k) too early and you forfeit part of the match.
Action Item: Review how your employer matches contributions and adjust your contribution strategy if necessary. [00:46:00]
Actionable Takeaways
Develop an Investor Policy Statement to guide decisions during volatility. [00:06:30]
Avoid panic selling during downturns; focus on long-term goals. [00:24:00]
Verify your employer's match distribution to capture every available dollar. [00:46:00]
Key Quotes
"Beware the inevitable churn of actively managed funds!" [00:25:54]
"Don't lock in losses; hold through the turbulence to let your money grow!" [00:09:46]
Related Resources
ChooseFI: Your Blueprint to Financial Independence
Terminology
Investor Policy Statement: A document outlining your investment strategy and guidelines. [00:06:00]
Long-term capital gains: Profits from assets held over a year, taxed at lower rates. [00:43:00]
Expense ratio: Annual fee as a percentage of assets under management. [00:17:30]
Churn: Frequent buying and selling of stocks within a portfolio. [00:25:54]
Basis points: 1 basis point = 0.01%; used to describe small percentage changes in fees or rates. [00:19:50]
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Feb 2, 2020 • 1h 12min
165 | YNAB Review: Why You Need A Budget
Most people think budgeting means restriction. But what if it's actually the path to spending more on what truly matters?
Brad and Jonathan debate whether budgets are essential or optional — then put the question to Jesse Mecham, founder of You Need a Budget (YNAB). Jesse built his budgeting software from a simple spreadsheet in 2004 into a company serving hundreds of thousands of people. The conversation explores how budgeting reduces financial stress, reveals your real priorities through trade-offs, and creates space for bigger opportunities by widening the gap between earning and spending. Whether you're a natural budgeter or have resisted it for years, this episode offers practical strategies for aligning your money with your values.
Timestamps and Highlights
[00:01:35] Interview with Jesse Mecham
[00:03:22] The YNAB Story
Jesse Mecham shares his journey from a simple spreadsheet to creating a well-regarded budgeting software.
[00:20:31] Budgeting Strategies
Practical strategies to alleviate financial stress. Strategies include giving every dollar a job, embracing true expenses, and managing money wisely.
[01:05:00] The Hot Seat with Jesse
Jesse answers questions on favorite books, memorable inflection points, and the best life hacks as they relate to financial independence and budgeting.
Key Quotes
[00:04:34] "Budgeting isn't about restriction; it's about assigning every dollar a purpose."
[00:09:36] Identify your financial non-negotiables to foster creativity in budgeting.
[00:22:17] "Aligning your money with your values is critical."
[00:53:53] "Scarcity reveals true values through trade-offs."
[00:56:16] "The size of your opportunities is defined by your income versus your spending."
[01:00:02] "Don't underestimate the power of an audacious, deeply held goal."
Related Resources
Effective Budgeting Guide
Episode 012: Overcoming Financial Anxiety
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Jan 30, 2020 • 51min
What Are The 5 Love Languages?
Most people think expensive dinners and jewelry win Valentine's Day — but they're wrong. What actually matters is whether your partner even wants those things, or if they'd rather you just wash the dishes.
Brad and Jonathan explore Gary Chapman's five love languages framework — acts of service, words of affirmation, quality time, gift giving, and physical touch — showing how relationships flourish when you match your expressions of affection to what your partner actually values. Through personal examples and community input, they demonstrate that the most meaningful gestures rarely require spending money. Instead, understanding whether your partner lights up from a heartfelt compliment, an uninterrupted afternoon together, or help with household tasks can transform everyday interactions.
The conversation covers how to identify your partner's primary love language, why "speaking" the wrong one creates disconnect even when intentions are good, and practical ways to show care throughout the year — not just on commercial holidays. Multiple community members share creative, low-cost approaches to quality time and thoughtful gift-giving that deepen connection without draining wallets.
Timestamps & Discussion Points
[00:01:04] Introduction to Love Languages
Overview of the five love languages and why understanding them matters year-round, not just around Valentine's Day.
[00:06:44] Acts of Service
Taking action to ease your partner's burden — household chores, running errands, handling tasks they dislike. If this is their love language, doing meaningful tasks resonates more than buying gifts.
[00:13:34] Words of Affirmation
Communicating love through compliments and verbal encouragement. Personal and specific affirmations fill your partner's emotional tank more effectively than generic praise.
[00:20:14] Quality Time
Giving undivided attention with zero distractions — no phones, no TV. Scheduled, intentional time together creates stronger bonds than casual proximity.
[00:26:08] Gift Giving
Thoughtful gifts that demonstrate understanding of your partner's interests and preferences. The thoughtfulness behind the gift matters far more than its price tag.
[00:33:26] Physical Touch
Love expressed through physical closeness — hugs, hand-holding, affectionate gestures. Simple physical connection can effectively communicate emotional security.
[00:36:00] Community Thoughts
Insights from the ChooseFI community about applying love languages and celebrating affection throughout the year rather than concentrating it on one day.
[00:41:00] Final Thoughts
Encouragement to express love consistently year-round, making special occasions simpler and more authentic.
Key Quotes
"Master the game of love by understanding your partner's needs." [00:10:49]
"Gift thoughtfully to truly show your understanding of your partner." [00:26:38]
"Expressing love year-round simplifies celebrations on specific days." [00:43:12]
Action Items
Identify your partner's love language to enhance your relationship experience [00:13:56]
Plan a no-cost day dedicated to quality time for your loved ones [00:20:00]
Create personalized gifts tied to your loved one's interests to show understanding [00:27:00]
Schedule a regular date night without distractions [00:20:14]
Related Resources
The Five Love Languages by Gary Chapman [00:10:00]
ChooseFI Community Group [00:36:35]
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Jan 27, 2020 • 1h 2min
164 | Building Wealth While Raising a Family
Christina Browning, an attorney who used scholarships and strategic careers to fast-track retirement. Amon Browning, a former federal worker turned real estate investor who leveraged house hacking and geoarbitrage. They talk about living rent-free during law school, DIY renovations with kids, travel hacking for family trips, creative Bay Area real estate tactics, and choosing Portugal for retirement.

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Jan 24, 2020 • 55min
Roth IRA Conversion Ladder Case Study
Struggling to save your first $1,000 while stuck in a paycheck-to-paycheck cycle? Jonathan and Brad tackle this exact challenge with practical strategies anyone can start today.
The hosts walk through the $1,000 Challenge — a framework for building your initial financial buffer even when money feels tight. They explore selling unused items through Facebook Marketplace and Craigslist, noting how most purchases depreciate significantly the moment you bring them home. The key insight: that neglected treadmill or unused kitchen gadget is only costing you space and mental energy.
The conversation shifts to the no spend challenge, particularly focusing on food expenses where many households quietly hemorrhage money. By temporarily cutting non-essential spending, you create breathing room to redirect funds toward your $1,000 goal while developing more intentional spending habits.
The second half dives into the Roth IRA Conversion Ladder — a strategy that lets you access retirement funds penalty-free before age 59½. Brad explains how converting traditional IRA funds to Roth accounts during low-income years creates a five-year waiting period, after which those conversions become accessible tax and penalty-free. This proves especially powerful for early retirees who can carefully manage their tax brackets during the conversion years.
[00:00:44] - $1,000 Challenge Introduction
Creating a financial buffer starting at just $1,000
Starting with small achievable goals
[00:01:50] - Selling Unused Items
Utilizing platforms like Facebook Marketplace and Craigslist to sell items gathering dust
Realizations about the actual value of purchased items and how they depreciate
Declutter your home and sell unused items to kickstart your $1,000 Challenge
[00:12:41] - No Spend Challenge Discussion
Introducing the concept of a no spend challenge to save money and re-evaluate spending habits
Focus on food expenses as a significant area for improvement
Consider implementing a no spend month as a family to save money
[00:25:36] - Roth IRA Conversion Ladder Explanation
How the Roth IRA Conversion Ladder allows access to retirement funds without penalties
Managing tax implications and leveraging tax brackets to minimize liabilities
Learn about the Roth IRA Conversion Ladder to access your retirement funds without penalties
Key Insights:
Mindset Shift: "Value lies in unused potential" — items cluttering your space are actively costing you, not helping you
Mindful Spending: Balance earning through selling unused items with being intentional about spending habits
Tax Efficiency: Control your tax rate to influence your lifestyle costs, especially when transitioning to early retirement
Related Resources:
The Simple Startup — resource discussed at episode's conclusion
Episode 136 - Liz and Brayden's Story — referenced at 00:19:18
Key Quotes:
"Value lies in unused potential." [00:06:14]
"Balance earning through decluttering with mindful spending." [00:14:12]
"Optimize your taxes by managing your income bracket." [00:31:06]
"Master tax strategies to influence your lifestyle costs." [00:42:44]
"Flexibility in conversions can optimize tax outcomes." [00:39:02]
Terminology:
Roth IRA [00:25:36]: A retirement account where contributions are made after tax, allowing tax-free withdrawals in retirement
$1,000 Challenge [00:00:44]: A personal finance initiative aimed at saving the first $1,000 for financial emergencies
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Jan 20, 2020 • 51min
163 | How to Get Your Spouse On Board with Financial Independence
Liz, who grew up with a single mom and won $100k+ in scholarships, and Braden, a former traditional-career professional turned stay-at-home dad, co-created the $2 Eats budget-friendly recipe project. They chat about mastering scholarships, teaching kids money skills, quitting for family life, radical budget optimizations, and cooking cheap, tasty meals.


