The Running for Real Podcast

Patti Castalano Dillon was the greatest female distance runner in the United States in the late 1970s - early 1980s. She won her first race, the 1976 Ocean State Marathon, only six months after she started running, earning a BQ. She set world records in the 5 mile, 20k, 30k, and half marathon; American records in the 10k and 15k; and was the first American woman to break 2:30 in the marathon. As one of the first female runners to sign a professional contract with a sponsor, she was a pioneer in women's distance running. Her successes came at a cost, however, which she talks about frankly in this episode. She's risen above the obstacles that she's faced over the years, and her story can serve as an inspiration to us all. For complete show notes and links, visit our website at runningforreal.com/episode292. Thank you to Tracksmith and InsideTracker for sponsoring this episode. Tracksmith is a Boston-based company that truly cares about the quality of their running clothes. Running can be demanding on our clothes; they definitely go through wear and tear to where we may be purchasing new clothes constantly. Tracksmith designers work with the finest materials and keep you in mind as a runner, with spots for your keys, phone, and fuel. You can go here to check out my favorites! Go here and use the code TINA15, and Tracksmith will donate 5% of your purchase to Runners for Public Lands, and you'll get free shipping! Have you not been feeling yourself lately? Gone down a lot of avenues but haven't really found clear solutions? That is where InsideTracker can come in for you. I have trusted this company for years to show me where I may be lacking and if I need a few tweaks here and there. I count on InsideTracker to help me decipher the science behind it all. Go here to get 25% off site wide. Thanks for listening! We know there are so many podcasts you could listen to, and we are honored you have chosen Running For Real. If you appreciate the work that we do, here are a few things you can do to support us: Take a screenshot of the episode, and share it with your friends, family, and community on social media, especially if you feel that the topic will resonate with them. Be sure to tag us on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram If you are struggling through something a guest mentions, chances are others are too, and you will help them feel less alone. Leave an honest review on iTunes or your favorite podcast player. Your ratings and reviews will really help us grow and reach new people. Not sure how to leave a review or subscribe? You can find out here. "Thank you" to Patti. We look forward to hearing your thoughts on the show.

Our first LONG Together Run, and today, hosted by Darius. Darius takes us on a run over two hours, he can become the perfect companion to your upcoming long run. Darius will begin with the usual check in with nature, body scan, senses check in, check in mentally and emotionally and go on to share about his running background, educational background, mental health, and his running dreams. Join Darius in this very Running For Real run as he takes a wrong turn, attempts to fuel while recording (another first in Together Runs), and offers 30, 60, 90 and 120 minute options for runners to enjoy. Part meditation, part reflection, part check-in, join Darius for #togetherrun45 Tina mentioned If you want to support Tina and the Running For Real team: Through a monthly donation on Patreon. To sign up, click here. You can share on social media and let others know about what you are loving in these together runs. You can leave a review on iTunes. Thanks for listening! We know there are so many podcasts you could be listening to, but we are honored you have chosen Running For Real. If you appreciate the work that we do, here are a few things you can do to support us: Take a screenshot of the episode, and share it with your friends, family, and community on social media, especially if you feel that topic will relate to them. Be sure to tag us on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram Leave an honest review on iTunes or your favorite podcast player Your ratings and reviews will really help us grow and reach new people Not sure how to leave a review or subscribe, you can find out here. Thank you for joining, we look forward to hearing your thoughts.

Journalist Tonya Russell has written for publications including The New York Times, The Washington Post, Self, The Atlantic, and Marie Claire. She's also a runner, coming back from a series of injuries. In this episode, she talks honestly about being a Type A runner, toxic positivity, and the emotions that being injured evoke. For complete show notes and links, visit our website at runningforreal.com/episode291. Thank you to Athletic Greens, Allbirds, and InsideTracker for sponsoring this episode. AG1 is a simple and easy way to get 75 vitamins, minerals, and whole food source ingredients to help strengthen your immune system. It's simple to make and it tastes good! Go here to get a FREE year's supply of Vitamin D and five FREE travel packs with your subscription. Allbirds is all about doing things better, like collaborating with Adidas to create a performance running shoe, the FOOTPRINT.FUTURECRAFT, with only 2.94kg CO2 per pair. Their products are made from natural and recycled materials, and best of all, they know who they are. They are confident in what they do, and are changing the entire running industry before our eyes. You can see their entire collection on their website, and since the FOOTPRINT.FUTURECRAFT is still in limited supply, you can subscribe to our weekly newsletter and we'll let you know when they become more widely available. Have you not been feeling yourself lately? Gone down a lot of avenues but haven't really found clear solutions? That is where InsideTracker can come in for you. I have trusted this company for years to show me where I may be lacking and if I need a few tweaks here and there. I count on InsideTracker to help me decipher the science behind it all. Go here to get 25% off site wide. Thanks for listening! We know there are so many podcasts you could listen to, and we are honored you have chosen Running For Real. If you appreciate the work that we do, here are a few things you can do to support us: Take a screenshot of the episode, and share it with your friends, family, and community on social media, especially if you feel that the topic will resonate with them. Be sure to tag us on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram If you are struggling through something a guest mentions, chances are others are too, and you will help them feel less alone. Leave an honest review on iTunes or your favorite podcast player. Your ratings and reviews will really help us grow and reach new people. Not sure how to leave a review or subscribe? You can find out here. "Thank you" to Tonya. We look forward to hearing your thoughts on the show.

Come join Tina for a run with a friend, even if you are on your own for every run. Tina takes you on a Together Run around St Louis in this meditative, calming, reflective run. Each run begins with a body scan and senses check in, then Tina asks how you are, really, and then chats with you as if you were by her side. Part meditation, part reflection, part check-in, join Tina for #togetherrun44 Tina mentioned Come join the Together22 Brave space meetup tomorrow at either 1pm or 8pm EST. Sign up for the newsletter here and you will be sent the links Register for the Tracksmith shakeout run with Tina and Tommie Runz No sponsors today, trying to keep this authentic and like really running with a friend. If you want to support Tina and the Running For Real team: Through a monthly donation on Patreon. To sign up, click here. You can share on social media and let others know about what you are loving in these together runs. You can leave a review on iTunes. Thanks for listening! We know there are so many podcasts you could be listening to, but we are honored you have chosen Running For Real. If you appreciate the work that we do, here are a few things you can do to support us: Take a screenshot of the episode, and share it with your friends, family, and community on social media, especially if you feel that topic will relate to them. Be sure to tag us on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram Leave an honest review on iTunes or your favorite podcast player Your ratings and reviews will really help us grow and reach new people Not sure how to leave a review or subscribe, you can find out here. Thank you for joining, we look forward to hearing your thoughts.

Yassine Diboun is a champion ultrarunner, routinely finishing near the top in some of the world's most demanding and prestigious races. He won and set the course record at the Leona Divide 50K in 2013 and was a member of the silver medal-winning U.S. team at the IAU World Trail Championships in 2015. What people may not know is that he can be found not only running the trails, but manning race aid stations dressed as a cowboy… or an astronaut. As owner of Wy'east Wolfpack in Portland, Oregon, he connects people to the joys of health and wellness through movement. Today he and Tina talk about his journey to becoming a top ultrarunner, connecting to nature, and why he's known for the fun that he brings to volunteering. For complete show notes and links, visit our website at runningforreal.com/episode290. Thank you to Tracksmith and InsideTracker for sponsoring this episode. Tracksmith is a Boston-based company that truly cares about the quality of their running clothes. Running can be demanding on our clothes; they definitely go through wear and tear to where we may be purchasing new clothes constantly. Tracksmith designers work with the finest materials and keep you in mind as a runner, with spots for your keys, phone, and fuel. You can go here to check out my favorites! Go here and use the code TINA15, and Tracksmith will donate 5% of your purchase to Runners for Public Lands, and you'll get free shipping! Have you not been feeling yourself lately? Gone down a lot of avenues but haven't really found clear solutions? That is where InsideTracker can come in for you. I have trusted this company for years to show me where I may be lacking and if I need a few tweaks here and there. I count on InsideTracker to help me decipher the science behind it all. Go here to get 25% off site wide. Thanks for listening! We know there are so many podcasts you could listen to, and we are honored you have chosen Running For Real. If you appreciate the work that we do, here are a few things you can do to support us: Take a screenshot of the episode, and share it with your friends, family, and community on social media, especially if you feel that the topic will resonate with them. Be sure to tag us on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram If you are struggling through something a guest mentions, chances are others are too, and you will help them feel less alone. Leave an honest review on iTunes or your favorite podcast player. Your ratings and reviews will really help us grow and reach new people. Not sure how to leave a review or subscribe? You can find out here. "Thank you" to Yassine. We look forward to hearing your thoughts on the show.

Run with a friend without physically running with someone else. Join Tina for a Together Run around St Louis. It will feel like you are with her in this run that begins with a body scan and senses check in, asks how you are, really, and then chats with you conversationally. In this run, you will even get to meet a special friend in Tina's life. Part meditation, part reflection, part check-in, join Tina for #togetherrun43 Tina mentioned No sponsors today, trying to keep this authentic and like really running with a friend. If you want to support Tina and the Running For Real team: Through a monthly donation on Patreon. To sign up, click here. You can share on social media and let others know about what you are loving in these together runs. Thanks for listening! We know there are so many podcasts you could be listening to, but we are honored you have chosen Running For Real. If you appreciate the work that we do, here are a few things you can do to support us: Take a screenshot of the episode, and share it with your friends, family, and community on social media, especially if you feel that topic will relate to them. Be sure to tag us on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram Leave an honest review on iTunes or your favorite podcast player Your ratings and reviews will really help us grow and reach new people Not sure how to leave a review or subscribe, you can find out here. Thank you for joining, we look forward to hearing your thoughts.

Neely Spence Gracey and Cindy Kuzma know a thing or two about setting and achieving goals. Neely is a three-time Olympic Trials qualifier and has her sights set on qualifying for the Trials in 2024. She was the top American at the 2016 Boston Marathon and has broken 70 minutes in the half. Cindy is a writer, author and podcaster who has helped countless athletes come back from injury with her book Rebound and her Injured Athletes Club podcast. They've teamed up to write Breakthrough Women's Running: Dream Big and Train Smart, drawing on their personal experiences and those of the successful women runners they interviewed. Their objective is to help women achieve their running goals and to recognize the ways that those goals can - and should - change throughout their lives. For complete show notes and links, visit our website at runningforreal.com/episode289. Thank you to Athletic Greens, Allbirds, and InsideTracker for sponsoring this episode. AG1 is a simple and easy way to get 75 vitamins, minerals, and whole food source ingredients to help strengthen your immune system. It's simple to make and it tastes good! Go here to get a FREE year's supply of Vitamin D and five FREE travel packs with your subscription. Allbirds is all about doing things better, like collaborating with Adidas to create a performance running shoe, the FOOTPRINT.FUTURECRAFT, with only 2.94kg CO2 per pair. Their products are made from natural and recycled materials, and best of all, they know who they are. They are confident in what they do, and are changing the entire running industry before our eyes. You can see their entire collection on their website, and since the FOOTPRINT.FUTURECRAFT is still in limited supply, you can subscribe to our weekly newsletter and we'll let you know when they become more widely available. Have you not been feeling yourself lately? Gone down a lot of avenues but haven't really found clear solutions? That is where InsideTracker can come in for you. I have trusted this company for years to show me where I may be lacking and if I need a few tweaks here and there. I count on InsideTracker to help me decipher the science behind it all. Go here to get 25% off site wide. Thanks for listening! We know there are so many podcasts you could listen to, and we are honored you have chosen Running For Real. If you appreciate the work that we do, here are a few things you can do to support us: Take a screenshot of the episode, and share it with your friends, family, and community on social media, especially if you feel that the topic will resonate with them. Be sure to tag us on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram If you are struggling through something a guest mentions, chances are others are too, and you will help them feel less alone. Leave an honest review on iTunes or your favorite podcast player. Your ratings and reviews will really help us grow and reach new people. Not sure how to leave a review or subscribe? You can find out here. "Thank you" to Neely and Cindy. We look forward to hearing your thoughts on the show.

It's Together Run Monday, but for the second week in a row, there is no Together Run to join. Tina talks about compassion and empathy towards ourselves in moments where things don't turn out as planned. Find the rest of the 42 previous Together Runs here. Oh, and it is the FINAL WEEK to vote for Running For Real as Best Fitness Podcast for Sports Podcast Award! We are competing for the win, help us win! Tina mentioned Vote for Running For Real as Best Fitness Podcast for Sports Podcast Award No sponsors today, trying to keep this authentic and like really running with a friend. If you want to support Tina and the Running For Real team: Through a monthly donation on Patreon. To sign up, click here. You can share on social media and let others know about what you are loving in these together runs. You can leave a review on iTunes. Thanks for listening! We know there are so many podcasts you could be listening to, but we are honored you have chosen Running For Real. If you appreciate the work that we do, here are a few things you can do to support us: Take a screenshot of the episode, and share it with your friends, family, and community on social media, especially if you feel that topic will relate to them. Be sure to tag us on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram Leave an honest review on iTunes or your favorite podcast player Your ratings and reviews will really help us grow and reach new people Not sure how to leave a review or subscribe, you can find out here. Thank you for joining, we look forward to hearing your thoughts.

Callan Porter-Romero is a mixed media artist and muralist, a flavor chemist, and an aspiring marathoner. She tells the stories of her multicultural community through her artwork, particularly her paintings of hands. "The way that I've approached art is about giving room for those stories and making people acknowledge that they exist." Callan is of Black, Japanese, and Mexican heritage, which she shares at the very top of her website. That multicultural background isn't unusual in her hometown of Oakland, CA, but the area is changing, which in some ways has been detrimental to the community. As she explains, the "exchange of cultures is really critical and crucial to the community of Oakland. And so I put that out there as a way of reminding that people like me still exist in this community." Oakland has evolved because of the cultural exchanges there, and her artwork is about giving a voice to the voiceless by reflecting their narratives and making sure that their contributions are recognized. "My philosophy is that there should be art everywhere." Callan has always been interested in art, but, she says, "my city has a history of gutting the arts programs. And so my experience with art, my relationship with artists, has been really limited. And so I'm really passionate about accessibility to art." She had time away from the chemistry lab during the first part of the pandemic, which allowed her to really think about what was important to her. She realized that she wanted to create public art, so she reached out to a non-profit, Three Thirty Three Arts, that coordinates with artists in the Bay area who paint murals for free. "It's a good reminder that the community is there and hungry for connection." Although municipalities often raise barriers to installing public art, the reaction from individuals is overwhelmingly positive. When Callan is painting her murals, people will come up and tell her, "We need this; we've always wanted a mural here." Being a part of 333 has enabled her "to fulfill that dream and be more ingrained and a part of the community which is really, really important, particularly during the pandemic when everyone has been so far apart." "I think there's a lot of stories you can tell from someone's hands." Besides public art, Callan's other current focus is on painting hands. "There's a lot of hidden labor in people's hands and you know what they've gone through in life, what they've been exposed to or how they feel in a situation," she explains. "The reason why I think hands are beautiful is because you can show age through them. You can show frustration. You can show personality." "What's important to me is that the hand is getting its say." She doesn't try to make her hands realistic; it's the story they tell that's important. That story is often of untold labor. The recycled materials that she uses are "a commentary on the fact that a lot of people who are doing these hidden labor jobs are being used as a replaceable product, where the humanity is stripped from people who are in those positions. And I use these types of materials to comment on that. And in a way, to show that despite the way that society views people like me or people who are in those circumstances, they're still going about their lives." By using recycled materials, she also helps in a small way to cut down on waste. "I'm trying to use those materials that would go to landfill and incorporate them into my art," she says, so she uses cardboard, packaging materials, and fabric from discarded clothing in her pieces. "It allowed me to, in my head, go on an adventure and really feel like I could do whatever, I could be whoever." Callan played soccer competitively in high school and college, so she ran as part of that, but didn't really start running for its own sake until she moved to Santa Cruz after graduating. She remembers that "running through the neighborhood felt like I had more control of my situation and I didn't feel alone and it also allowed me to explore." When she ran her first 10k, it was the first time that she'd run that far and she won first place in her age group! Now she's working towards her next goal, completing a marathon. "Don't have any zero days." As runners, we can use running as an analogy for just about anything. Callan can compare it to creating art. If she tries something and isn't satisfied, she can always paint over it. She believes that "doing it is what matters; it's like, at least I tried something." For her running, "it's remembering that I might not do the distance that I had wanted to do that day, but at least I did something." She got that perspective from her brother, who told her, "Don't have any zero days." That doesn't mean going out and doing something crazy; "it just means at least you tried something that day and you feel proud of yourself for at least doing one thing." "Don't put pressure on yourself to feel like you need to be something or you need to be acting a certain way. As long as you're thinking actively about wanting to connect, I think that's a good first step." Resources: Callan's Instagram Callan's website 333 Arts Thank you to Athletic Greens,Allbirds, and InsideTracker for sponsoring this episode. AG1 is a simple and easy way to get 75 vitamins, minerals, and whole food source ingredients to help strengthen your immune system. It's simple to make and it tastes good! Go here to get a FREE year's supply of Vitamin D and five FREE travel packs with your subscription. Allbirds is all about doing things better, like collaborating with Adidas to create a performance running shoe, the FOOTPRINT.FUTURECRAFT, with only 2.94kg CO2 per pair. Their products are made from natural and recycled materials, and best of all, they know who they are. They are confident in what they do, and are changing the entire running industry before our eyes. You can see their entire collection on their website, and since the FOOTPRINT.FUTURECRAFT is still in limited supply, you can subscribe to our weekly newsletter and we'll let you know when they become more widely available. Have you not been feeling yourself lately? Gone down a lot of avenues but haven't really found clear solutions? That is where InsideTracker can come in for you. I have trusted this company for years to show me where I may be lacking and if I need a few tweaks here and there. I count on InsideTracker to help me decipher the science behind it all. Go here to get 25% off site wide. Thanks for listening! We know there are so many podcasts you could listen to, and we are honored you have chosen Running For Real. If you appreciate the work that we do, here are a few things you can do to support us: Take a screenshot of the episode, and share it with your friends, family, and community on social media, especially if you feel that the topic will resonate with them. Be sure to tag us on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram If you are struggling through something a guest mentions, chances are others are too, and you will help them feel less alone. Leave an honest review on iTunes or your favorite podcast player. Your ratings and reviews will really help us grow and reach new people. Not sure how to leave a review or subscribe? You can find out here. "Thank you" to Callan. We look forward to hearing your thoughts on the show.

This is not the podcast episode that it was originally intended to be. That was going to be a full-length conversation with Sidney Baptista, founder of PIONEERS Run Crew in Boston, the PYNRS performance streetwear brand, and the coach for the PACE online coaching platform. That episode sadly was lost. But a situation that could be regarded as a failure became an opportunity to reflect on making mistakes, practicing self-compassion, and the importance of a supportive environment. If you've ever made a mistake in your life, this episode is for you. And if you're a perfect human being who has never committed an error, it's still for you, because you'll have the pleasure of meeting Sid for a brief conversation. He'll be back for a longer talk in the future. "I wanted to reach out and say it was someone else's fault other than my own, knowing full well that it was my fault and it's okay to make a mistake." After an anxiety-filled night thinking about all of the things that can go wrong when you're an entrepreneur, Tina awoke in the morning to find out that one of them had. She was told by her editor that the podcast file that she'd sent him didn't contain any audio. Somehow the interview hadn't been recorded. After the initial shock wore off, she decided to record an episode about making mistakes and reached out to tell the Running for Real team about it. "Admitting mistakes is easier when we are surrounded by a safe community of people." She knew that her team wouldn't think any less of her for making a mistake, and she also trusted that her listeners wouldn't be judgmental. For Tina, the Running for Real community is a "safe, encouraging, supportive environment, where I feel like I can share and can admit my mistakes and can talk about these things." Especially at this time in history, when there's so much blaming and shaming, and people are afraid that anything they say or do may be used against them, that safe space is something that everyone needs. If you feel as though you wouldn't feel comfortable speaking out if you made a mistake, think about how you can create a supportive environment. "If we don't allow ourselves the opportunity to make mistakes and to admit a mistake, we are also losing opportunities to be able to fix it, to be able to learn from it, to grow." When you tell someone about a mistake that you made, they may have advice for how to turn it into something positive, or at least less negative. It also gives you an opportunity to connect more deeply with that person, and helps them to feel that they can share their mistakes. It's only by acknowledging a mistake that we can move forward. And never underestimate the positive outcome that may result from it… Post-It Notes were created when their inventor failed to make the strong adhesive he was trying to develop! "Shame thrives on silence, judgment, and secrecy, and by bringing that out into the light I didn't allow it to take over my mind." Tina posted about what had happened on Instagram, and reached out to Sid to apologize and to ask if he would talk about it. Not only was he not angry, he thought "people will really enjoy this, and taking something that didn't work out and making it kind of a teaching moment and a learning moment is really cool." He could relate; it was a failure in his concert-promoting business that led him to running. That, however, is a story for a future episode… Resources: Sidney's Instagram PYNRS TikTok Stay on PACE w/Coach Sid #Running4Real Superstars Running for Real Newsletter Mindset: The New Psychology of Success Thank you to Tracksmith and InsideTracker for sponsoring this episode. Tracksmith is a Boston-based company that truly cares about the quality of their running clothes. Running can be demanding on our clothes; they definitely go through wear and tear to where we may be purchasing new clothes constantly. Tracksmith designers work with the finest materials and keep you in mind as a runner, with spots for your keys, phone, and fuel. You can go here to check out my favorites! Go here and use the code TINA15, and Tracksmith will donate 5% of your purchase to Runners for Public Lands, and you'll get free shipping! Have you not been feeling yourself lately? Gone down a lot of avenues but haven't really found clear solutions? That is where InsideTracker can come in for you. I have trusted this company for years to show me where I may be lacking and if I need a few tweaks here and there. I count on InsideTracker to help me decipher the science behind it all. Go here to get 25% off site wide. Thanks for listening! We know there are so many podcasts you could listen to, and we are honored you have chosen Running For Real. If you appreciate the work that we do, here are a few things you can do to support us: Take a screenshot of the episode, and share it with your friends, family, and community on social media, especially if you feel that the topic will resonate with them. Be sure to tag us on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram If you are struggling through something a guest mentions, chances are others are too, and you will help them feel less alone. Leave an honest review on iTunes or your favorite podcast player. Your ratings and reviews will really help us grow and reach new people. Not sure how to leave a review or subscribe? You can find out here. "Thank you" to Sidney. We look forward to hearing your thoughts on the show.