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Excess Returns
Excess Returns is dedicated to making you a better long-term investor and making complex investing topics understandable. Join Jack Forehand, Justin Carbonneau and Matt Zeigler as they sit down with some of the most interesting names in finance to discuss topics like macroeconomics, value investing, factor investing, and more. Subscribe to learn along with us.
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Feb 23, 2026 • 1h 9min
When You've Won the Game, Stop Playing | What Great Investors Taught Us About Portfolio and Purpose
Conversations about defining a portfolio's purpose beyond beating the market. Topics include preserving and growing wealth, liability-driven investing, and matching assets to future needs. They explore freedom and funded contentment, planning for retirement and multi generational wealth, and how upbringing shapes financial blindspots and emotional legacy.

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Feb 21, 2026 • 1h 16min
When Safe Becomes the Most Dangerous | The 100-Year Thinkers on AI, Staples and How Words Mislead
Robert Hagstrom, CIO at Equity Compass and seasoned value investor, and Chris Mayer, investor and Woodlock House co-founder known for finding compounders, discuss how language and expectations warp investing. They cover general semantics, AI hype and corporate dilemmas, Buffett’s cathedral vs casino metaphor, benchmarks and gamified markets, and why low-volatility staples can hide real risk.

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Feb 19, 2026 • 1h 3min
The Global Regime Change | Jason Hsu on AI, Factor Investing and What Investors Miss About China
Jason Hsu, founder of Reliant Global Advisors and co-founder of Research Affiliates, is a factor investing and China markets specialist. He tackles China’s fierce domestic capitalism and manufacturing dominance. He explores AI as the next wave of globalization and its impact on professional services. He argues for rethinking U.S.-centric portfolios and separating China from emerging markets.

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Feb 17, 2026 • 58min
When the Data Stops Working | Cameron Dawson and Dave Nadig on What Aggregate Economic Numbers Hide
Dave Nadig, ETF and crypto industry veteran, and Cameron Dawson, macro commentator at NewEdge Wealth, unpack how aggregate data hides K-shaped divergence and positioning-driven market moves. They debate AI capex winners, tokenization and stablecoin plumbing, dollar and international valuation dynamics, and why consensus forecasts often mask real risks.

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Feb 15, 2026 • 1h 7min
This Only Happens in Markets Down 30% | Brent Kochuba on the Rotation Indexes Hide
Brent Kochuba, founder of Spot Gamma and an options-market analyst, explains how options flows quietly steer price action. He unpacks hidden intraday volatility, massive single-stock spasms versus muted indexes, sector rotation into value and energy, and how dealer hedging, gamma positioning and OPEX cycles can create sudden market moves.

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Feb 13, 2026 • 1h 12min
Investing in a Fourth Turning | Neil Howe and Ben Hunt on Inflation, Trust and What Comes Next
Neil Howe, co-creator of the Fourth Turning framework and author, offers a generational lens on crises. Ben Hunt, founder of Epsilon Theory, links narratives to market moves. They discuss inflation as a crisis tool, gold and real assets in a regime shift, reversing global capital flows, AI hyperscaling versus broad productivity, and defensive diversification outside the U.S.

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Feb 12, 2026 • 60min
You Can't Eat Risk-Adjusted Returns | AQR's Pete Hecht on Portable Alpha's Capital Efficient Edge
Pete Hecht, head of AQR’s North American Portfolio Solutions Group, explains portable alpha and capital‑efficient portfolio construction in practical terms. He discusses combining equity beta with unconstrained long/short alpha. He covers implementation choices, suitable alpha sources like market neutral and managed futures, leverage versus financing risks, and evaluating excess returns and tail risk.

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Feb 10, 2026 • 1h 2min
46% of the S&P 500 is One AI Bet | Kai Wu on Why It’s Likely the Wrong One
Kai Wu, founder of Sparkline Capital and AI adoption researcher, breaks down where real AI economic gains are showing up. He contrasts infrastructure builders with early adopters and laggards. Short takes cover adoption S‑curves, earnings‑call ROI signals, valuation concentration in infrastructure, and why early adopters may offer a middle path.

Feb 9, 2026 • 1h 5min
It’s Only a Question of When | Nir Kaissar on AI, Private Credit and the Regime Shift Investors Miss
Nir Kaissar, Bloomberg Opinion columnist and founder of Unison Advisors, is a market and macro strategist. He talks about fast Waymo adoption and what it means for transportation. He questions consensus Fed cuts and reads two-year Treasuries as a signal. He explores AI’s stage vs the internet, concentration risks in big tech, private companies staying private longer, and hidden dangers in private credit.

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Feb 7, 2026 • 1h 5min
$70 Billion. 18 Straight Outperforming Years | David Giroux on the Index Trap and AI Hype
David Giroux, CIO of T. Rowe Price and long-time manager of the Capital Appreciation strategy, shares market mapping from micro S&P 500 valuation to sector-level calls. He discusses exploiting structural inefficiencies, buying into drawdowns, where AI may help or hurt companies, and why utilities and healthcare look attractive. Conversations also cover fixed income positioning, margin drivers, and how to think independently in volatile markets.


