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Chris Brennan
A weekly podcast on the history, philosophy, and techniques of astrology, hosted by professional astrologer Chris Brennan.
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Mar 22, 2023 • 2h 8min
Hillary Clinton’s Birth Certificate Released
In episode 394 astrologers Chris Brennan, Patrick Watson, and Nick Dagan Best discuss the recent release of Hillary Clinton's birth certificate, and whether it finally lays to rest a longstanding controversy in the astrological community over her true birth time.
Hillary Clinton's birth time has been the subject of interest among astrologers since at least the 1990s when she became First Lady of the United States, after her husband Bill Clinton was elected President in 1992.
The topic has long had an air of mystery surrounding it though, because there have been multiple conflicting birth times floating around, and much debate among astrologers over what the correct birth chart is for Hillary.
The mystery and debates surrounding this issue culminated in 2016 when Hillary ran for President against Donald Trump, and many astrologers based their predictions about the outcome of the election on different proposed times for Clinton, despite the uncertainties surrounding them.
Much of this was documented previously in episodes 90, 91, and 93 of The Astrology Podcast, titled 2016 US Presidential Election Birth Data Issues, Hillary Clinton's Birth Time Revisited, and Post-2016 Election Analysis and Reflections.
This month some of those questions were finally resolved when Hillary reached a certain age where her birth certificate became a matter of public record, and astrologers obtained an original copy that contains her birth time.
The birth certificate was posted on AstroDatabank on March 2, 2023 by data collector Viktor E:
https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Clinton,_Hillary
While in some ways the recorded birth time resolves a number of longstanding debates, although it may also raise other questions, as we discuss in the episode.
This episode is available in both audio and video versions below.
Timestamps
00:00:00 Intro
00:01:10 Background on the debate about Hillary Clinton's birth time
00:04:44 Scorpio rising 8:00 AM chart history
00:10:54 When Chris asked Hillary for her birth time
00:14:20 Gemini rising 8:00 PM chart
00:16:26 Leo rising chart
00:22:20 2016 Washington Post article about Hillary's birth time
00:26:10 How Hillary's birth certificate was obtained
00:30:50 Hillary's correct Gemini rising chart
00:36:15 Hillary's first Mars retrograde in Gemini in 1960
00:38:35 Mars retrograde in Gemini in 1975
00:40:45 Mars retrograde in Cancer in 1992
00:48:05 Mars retrograde in 2008
00:52:53 Why rectification is difficult for public figures
00:56:00 Why Nick thought Gemini rising was correct in 2009
01:01:40 When Patrick asked John Kerry for his birth time
01:06:28 Zodiacal releasing for the Scorpio rising chart
01:09:28 Zodiacal releasing for the Gemini rising chart
01:26:33 Saturn, Mars, and Pluto in Hillary's Leo third house
01:30:20 Wrong 2016 election predictions
01:33:42 Debate about the time on the birth certificate
01:44:35 Zodiacal releasing for the Leo rising chart
01:47:16 Transits that support the Gemini rising time
01:49:33 Lessons learned from the birth time debacle
02:01:08 Nick's videos on synodic cycles
02:01:39 Patrick's website and consults
02:03:47 Patrons and sponsors
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Mar 17, 2023 • 3h 25min
Pisces in Astrology: Meaning and Traits Explained
In episode 393 astrologers Austin Coppock and Chris Brennan discuss the meaning of the zodiac sign Pisces in astrology, and explain the traits and characteristics associated with people who were born under that sign.
Pisces is the twelfth sign of the zodiac, and it is a feminine or nocturnal sign, mutable, watery, and ruled by the planet Jupiter.
This is the final entry in our series of episodes where we do a deep dive into each of the signs of the zodiac, to help listeners develop a more detailed understanding of their underlying meaning and significations.
During the course of the episode we talk about different keywords and archetypes associated with the sign Pisces, look at the birth charts of celebrities who were born with different planets in that sign, and also compare Pisces to other signs of the zodiac.
Austin's credentials for this episode are that he has a stellium of planets in Pisces in his birth chart.
Austin's website:
https://austincoppock.com/
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Mar 1, 2023 • 1h 52min
Fate and Astrology
In episode 392 astrologers Adam Elenbaas and Chris Brennan discuss the relationship between fate and astrology, and how astrology can be used as a tool to study fate.
This episode was originally recorded as a Q&A for Adam's YouTube channel, where we answered some questions that were sent in my his fans about fate, free-will, and ancient astrology.
During the course of the episode we talk about how ancient astrologers viewed fate, and used astrology as a tool for understanding and negotiating it.
Along the way we also touched on other topics such as karma and reincarnation, electional astrology and magic, and how to delineate a birth chart in a way that balances determinism and free-will.
This episode is available in both audio and video versions below.
Timestamps
00:00:00 Intro
00:03:11 Diverse views of ancient astrologers
00:04:48 Were ancient astrologers fatalistic?
00:07:10 Definition of fate
00:10:35 Complete determinism
00:16:03 Partial determinism
00:19:08 Signs vs Causes
00:30:07 Resources about Jung on astrology
00:31:28 Is fate the same as karma?
00:43:24 Was astrology a religion?
00:49:08 Did ancient astrologers believe your chart was a set of instructions?
01:02:16 Was astrological magic used by all astrologers?
01:10:30 Electional astrology and magic
01:12:44 Limitations of predictive astrology
01:18:20 What successful astrology looks like
01:22:36 Why ancient texts sound fatalistic
01:28:45 Modern astrology's view of charts as a set of potentials
01:37:42 How to deliver a delineation
01:38:45 Why fate is a good thing
01:44:36 Concluding remarks
01:47:04 Patrons and sponsors
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Feb 23, 2023 • 2h 10min
Astrology Forecast for March 2023
In episode 391 we look ahead at the astrological forecast for March of 2023, with astrologers Chris Brennan, Austin Coppock, and Leisa Schaim.
March is one of the most notable months of 2023 because it contains a number of planetary ingresses, such as Saturn moving into Pisces, Pluto moving into Aquarius, and Mars finally departing Gemini for Cancer.
At the beginning of the episode we talk about some recent stories in the news and how the astrology played out over the past month, and then in the second half we do a full analysis of the astrology of March.
This episode is available in audio and video versions below.
Donate for to Earthquake Relief Funds
https://www.reddit.com/r/Turkey/comments/10w7nbc/how_to_help_turkey_earthquake_fundraisers/
https://events.softgiving.com/donate/HasanAbiForTurkeySyriaEarthquakesFund
About the Astrologers
https://www.chrisbrennanastrologer.com
https://austincoppock.com
https://leisaschaim.com
Auspicious Election for March
The most auspicious astrological date this month is March 22 around 2:00 PM, with Leo rising.
For more elections see:
https://theastrologypodcast.com/elections/
https://theastrologypodcast.com/2023report/
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https://www.patreon.com/astrologypodcast
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Feb 15, 2023 • 4h 4min
Aquarius in Astrology: Meaning and Traits
In episode 390 astrologers Aerin Fogel, Bear Ryver, and Chris Brennan discuss the meaning of the zodiac sign Aquarius in astrology, and explain the traits and characteristics associated with people who were born under that sign.
Aquarius is the eleventh sign of the zodiac, and it is a masculine or diurnal sign, fixed, airy, and ruled by the planet Saturn.
This is the eleventh entry in our series of episodes where we do a detailed breakdown of each of the signs of the zodiac, one per episode, in order to develop a more nuanced understanding of their overarching meaning and significations.
During the course of the episode we talk about different keywords and archetypes associated with Aquarius, and also look at the birth charts of celebrities who were born with different planets in that sign.
Aerin and Bear’s credentials for this episode are that they both have a number of prominent placements in the sign of Aquarius in their birth charts.
Aerin’s website:
https://aerinfogel.com
Bear’s website:
https://www.bearryver.com
This episode is available in both audio and video versions below.
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Feb 12, 2023 • 2h 7min
Robert Hand Responds to Deborah Houlding
Episode 389 features an interview with esteemed astrologer Robert Hand where he responds to Deborah Houlding’s recent claims about the history of house division, including some mischaracterizations that were about him personally, and sets the record straight about the recent history of the recovery of ancient astrology.
Rob was one of the three main founders of Project Hindsight, which was a translation project for ancient astrological texts in the 1990s.
In the interview we discuss the clear evidence for the existence of whole sign houses in ancient astrology, and Rob relates his firsthand accounts of the recovery of Hellenistic astrology, including sharing some stories about his time at Project Hindsight.
Along the way, Rob also shares some of his perspectives and experience from his 63-year career in astrology, and we hear about his life and work, as well some oral history about the recent recovery and revival of ancient astrology.
This is a followup to episodes 386 and 387, titled Deborah Houlding and Whole Sign House Denialism, and Demetra George Responds to Whole Sign House Denialism, and each of these episodes includes additional material and discussion about this topic.
You can find out more about Rob's work on his website:
https://www.arhatmedia.com
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Feb 11, 2023 • 1h 15min
Celebrating the Birthday of Vettius Valens
Episode 388 is a recording of an hour long webinar hosted by Chris Brennan and Jenn Zahrt where we celebrated the life and work of the 2nd century astrologer Vettius Valens last Wednesday, to mark the occasion of his 1903rd birthday.
The webinar was hosted by Jenn Zahrt of the CAELi Institute, which is an astrological research library that is available to the public in Olympia, Washington.
Last year Jenn helped me to publish a print translation of Valens by Mark Riley, and this was the first time the entire Anthology had appeared in print in English.
During the course of this episode we talk about Valens’ life and work, and then we also answer some questions from a live audience that attended that day.
Since this episode was recorded right in the middle of the week where there were a lot of discussions about Vettius Valens in connection to debates about house division, that was addressed as well.
See the previous episodes 386 and 387 for more context about that debate.
I wanted to release this recording because it represents part of the discussions that week, and may help to contribute some pieces to people’s understanding of the 2nd century astrologer who has recently become one of the major focal points of that discussion.
Sadly this week another major thing that happened is that a huge earthquake hit Turkey and Syria, and one of the towns that was devastated was the birthplace of Vettius Valens, a city named Antakya, Turkey, which is the ancient city of Antioch.
There are a number of charities that have been set up in order to help fund the earthquake relief efforts, and I’ve already made a donation, and I encourage all of my viewers and listeners to find a charity and donate some funds for the relief efforts if you can.
Donate to Turkey and Syria Earthquake Relief Efforts
Here is a link to a page with some resources for reputable organizations you can donate to in order to help the people of Turkey and Syria:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Turkey/comments/10w7nbc/how_to_help_turkey_earthquake_fundraisers/
The one I researched and decided to donate to was this one:
https://events.softgiving.com/donate/HasanAbiForTurkeySyriaEarthquakesFund
CAELi Institute
Find out more about Jenn's Celestial arts Education Library:
https://caeli.institute
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Feb 10, 2023 • 2h 9min
Demetra George Responds to Whole Sign House Denialism
Episode 387 features an interview with Demetra George where she shares her recollections of her time at Project Hindsight and sets the record straight about the recent history of the revival of ancient astrology.
This is a followup to episode 386, titled Deborah Houlding and Whole Sign House Denialism.
This episode available in both audio and video versions below.
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Feb 10, 2023 • 6h 42min
Deborah Houlding and Whole Sign House Denialism
In episode 386 Chris Brennan addresses a controversial lecture that was recently given by Deborah Holding where she denied the historical existence of the whole sign house system in ancient astrology.
Holding claims that whole sign houses did not exist in ancient astrology, and that the concept was only invented in the 1990s by Robert Hand and Robert Schmidt of Project Hindsight.
Chris sets out to present evidence that contradicts Holding's claims, demonstrating that there is ample evidence for the existence of whole sign houses in ancient astrology, and to provide a commentary on the distortions and misrepresentations made in her lecture.
During the course of the commentary Chris emphasizes the importance of separating the historical debate from the current practice of astrology, and criticizes Holding for denying the historical existence of whole sign houses based on personal preferences rather than objective evidence.
Chris also discusses the concept of whole sign house denialism, which is the attempt to deny the existence of whole sign houses in ancient astrology and dismiss or suppress any historical evidence that it existed, as well why it is important to address false claims in order to set the historical record straight.
This is a recording of a livestream that was broadcast on February 9, 2023.
It is best to watch the video version on YouTube, because there are lots of visual elements, although most of the information is contained in the audio.
This episode is available in both audio and video versions below.
Timestamps
00:00:00 Introduction
00:01:24 Houlding's lecture details
00:02:36 Houlding’s claims summarized
00:03:09 Her central false claim: 'Zero' historical astrologers
00:05:14 Whole sign house denialism
00:08:45 History vs. contemporary practice
00:11:36 Reconciling house systems
00:13:27 Why this response is necessary
00:16:30 History of the debate
00:19:43 Responding to the lecture release
00:21:31 Scholarly refutations of Houlding
00:24:43 Rhetorical question for the audience
00:27:02 Commentary and fair use
00:29:02 Further resources on house division
00:33:35 The 'sneak diss' tactic
00:37:50 Commentary begins
00:40:10 Houlding quotes Co–Star
00:43:17 Claim: Whole sign houses didn't exist pre-90s
00:48:19 Popularity of whole sign houses
00:53:25 Dismissing Equal Houses
00:58:32 The 'psychology' behind the movement
01:03:33 Houlding’s principal claim & James Holden
01:09:55 James Holden’s 1982 paper
01:14:00 Ancient sources defining whole sign houses
01:22:42 Examples of ancient horoscopes
01:27:26 Dorotheus of Sidon’s use
01:30:03 Project Hindsight coins the term
01:40:41 Vettius Valens’ chart examples
01:49:52 Precursors: German & French astrologers
02:00:23 Medieval Islamic tradition
02:11:00 The traditional astrology revival
02:16:40 Tensions between Lilly revivalists & Project Hindsight
02:22:48 Robert Hand’s background
02:31:52 Robert Schmidt’s background
02:44:53 Mischaracterizing Project Hindsight
03:00:34 Robert Zoller's split from Project Hindsight
03:10:52 Project Hindsight’s broad interests
03:22:53 Debunking Project Hindsight’s alleged narrow focus
03:36:34 Core Argument: Zero evidence
03:47:48 Houlding's conceptual argument
04:00:34 False claim: Valens only used quadrant houses
04:07:34 Calculating the Midheaven from the Ascendant
04:17:12 Schmidt’s theory: Topics vs. strength
04:24:43 The edited Robert Schmidt clip
04:52:46 Misrepresenting Valens’ Book 9
05:07:42 Valens' definition of Equal Houses
05:22:53 Presentation of chart diagrams
05:46:42 Dismissal of the Indian tradition
06:01:28 Wade Caves’ conceptual argument
06:18:02 Conclusion: 'It’s not a real system'
06:26:50 Final thoughts and conclusion
06:33:35 Astrologers and historical research
06:40:05 Rob Hand quote on evaluating ancient astrology
06:45:03 Final conclusions and moving forward
06:54:57 Saturn-Neptune correlation
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Jan 31, 2023 • 2h 39min
Astrology Forecast for February 2023
In episode 385 we look at the astrological forecast for February of 2023, with astrologers Chris Brennan, Austin Coppock, and Bear Ryver.
February is the final month of Saturn transiting through Aquarius and Mars through Gemini, and so it is a month of bringing things to completion and reflecting on how far you've come since those two transits started.
At the top of the episode we talk about the astrology of some recent events in the news, such as the release of Avatar 2 under the Jupiter-Neptune conjunction, AI starting to ramp up as a prelude to Pluto in Aquarius, and an entire generation successfully completing their Saturn return.
In the second half of the episode we get into the astrology of February, which includes Mercury finally moving into Aquarius after a long retrograde period in Capricorn, a Full Moon in Leo, and a new Moon in Pisces.
This episode is available in both audio and video versions below.
More About Chris, Austin, and Bear
ChrisBrennanAstrologer.com
AustinCoppock.com
BearRyver.com
Archetypal Explorer
ArchetypalExplorer.com
Astrology Calendar Posters for 2023
TheAstrologyPodcast.com/merch/
Vettius Valens Book Chat on Feb 8
caeli.institute/event/vettius-valens/
Auspicious Election for February
The most auspicious astrological date for February is:
February 22, 2023 at 2:01 PM local time, with Cancer rising
For more auspicious dates in February see our electional astrology podcast.
For dates later in the year see our 2023 Year Ahead Electional Astrology Report!
Patreon
https://www.patreon.com/astrologypodcast
Timestamps
00:00:00 Introduction
00:00:41 Quick February Astrology Overview
00:01:48 Welcoming Bear and Austin
00:05:23 Reviewing astrology of recent news stories
00:09:44 Avatar 2 and Jupiter conjunct Neptune
00:22:38 Saturn returns in Aquarius finishing
00:45:30 AI and Saturn and Pluto in Aquarius
00:53:15 Mars direct in Gemini
01:00:10 Andrew Garfield an astrologer?
01:04:22 Younger astrologers coming into community
01:09:52 Archetypal Explorer sponsor
01:13:26 Astrology Christmas tree
01:14:00 February astrology forecast begins
01:16:08 Venus in Pisces square Mars in Gemini
01:23:11 Full Moon in Leo halfway between eclipses
01:28:40 Venus conjunct Neptune in Pisces on February 15
01:34:48 Mercury-Pluto conjunction
01:38:16 USA Pluto return
01:40:46 Holland USA chart
01:46:24 Mercury enters Aquarius
01:46:58 Sun conjunct Saturn in Aquarius
01:52:00 Saturn in Aquarius reflections
02:03:56 Sun enters Pisces and New Moon in Pisces
02:12:30 Auspicious date for February
02:16:30 Final alignments of February
02:17:24 Mars-Neptune square
02:20:25 Mercury conjunct Saturn and Venus conjunct Jupiter
02:28:33 Bear's offerings and contact info
02:30:13 Austin's offerings and contact info
02:32:20 Chris' upcoming episodes and Patreon
02:34:25 End credits
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