

Secondhand Therapy
PonyBear Studios
Secondhand Therapy is a funny, honest mental health podcast where two unlicensed best friends unpack their weekly therapy sessions.Join Louie Paoletti and Michael Malone as they explore anxiety, ADHD, grief, masculinity, and emotional growth—with humor, heart, and total transparency. Each episode blends raw self-reflection with real time takes on therapy, trauma, relationships, and the messy process of healing.It’s real talk about mental health in the modern world, and why personal growth is so damn hard.
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Apr 14, 2025 • 35min
You Probably Think This Story’s About You: It Started as a Love Story
*Some names and details have been changed to conceal the identities of those who wish to remain anonymous.
When Brittani Ard matches with Kanon on Hingesparks fly. Their first date revealed an instantconnection and chemistry.Kanon is devastatingly handsome with a charm that disarmed even the mostguarded heart—plus he is surprisingly emotionally available for a man in his forties. It’s as if the universe has conspired to bring them together, two soulmates destined to find each other.
The couple spends the next five months diving fast into a whirlwind romance. Their connection so intense and their bond so deep that it seems like Brittani’s fairytale has finally found its happy ending. Until one weekend that changed her life forever.
Executive Producer Brittani Ard Follow Brittani@Brittani.Ard on all platformsThis episode contains mentions of suicide.If you are having thoughts of suicide, please reach out to the resources below. Suicide & Crisis Lifeline Call or Text 988Support the pod:
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Apr 7, 2025 • 48min
Why Am I Scared to be Happy? | #081
Louie grapples with the question: When is the right time to return to therapy? After making progress, Louie wonders whether he should open up about his podcast with his new therapist. Alongside Michael, they explore the balance between what to share and what to keep private in therapy. When does context matter in conversations about mental health? Michael faces the challenge of shedding his "sad guy" identity and navigating how this shift impacts his relationships.
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Mar 31, 2025 • 53min
Cheating on Your Pregnant Wife?! | #080
Louie and Michael unpack a shocking voice note from a listener who discovered her husband's infidelity while she was 9 months pregnant. The guys dive into the complexities of relationship trust, cheating, and how they might handle betrayal in their own lives. Tune in for a candid conversation on how to cope with infidelity, rebuild trust, and navigate difficult situations in relationships. If you've ever questioned what you'd do when trust is broken, this episode is a must-listen.
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Mar 24, 2025 • 47min
Overcoming Anxiety and Understanding Triggers | #079
Michael returns from his tour and opens up about his struggles with staying grounded in one place. Together with Louie, they unpack the complexities of anxiety, how to recognize it in the moment, and share personal experiences of navigating anxiety triggers. Michael’s hilarious moment of contemplating asking a bus driver for help (LOL) leads to an insightful conversation on how different people cope with similar situations.
Louie also dives deep into his decision to seek a male therapist and his concerns about working with a Black therapist. Does race play a role in therapy? Louie and Michael explore this topic while also touching on the challenges of feeling “too cool” for a therapist and the difficulties of breaking old habits—even when you’re just performing for others.
This episode is a must-listen for anyone navigating mental health, therapy concerns, or anxiety, offering real and raw conversations about growth, healing, and self-awareness. Whether you’re dealing with mental health struggles or seeking insights on finding the right therapist, tune in for an honest and empowering discussion.
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Mar 17, 2025 • 58min
Which Dating App is Best for Relationships? Attachment Styles & Political Climate with Jenny Zigrino | #078
This week, comedian and actress Jenny Zigrino shares her humorous and insightful take on dating apps like Hinge, Bumble, and Feeld, recommending the best ones for serious relationships. She opens up about her disorganized attachment style and its effects on her relationships, sparking a conversation on emotional connections and the concept of unconditional love. Jenny also critiques the current political climate and its toll on mental health, making for a thought-provoking exploration of love and life amidst societal chaos.

Mar 10, 2025 • 51min
Emotional Responsibility, Codependency & Communication Breakdowns | #077
Louie opens up about a recent fight he had with his girlfriend – no therapy, just real talk. It's a classic relationship argument, and we're diving deep into it. We discuss emotional responsibility, codependency, communication breakdowns, and much more that came up during the fight. Michael pushes Louie to reflect on his actions and how he approaches tough conversations. Plus, Michael shares his struggles with overwhelm from everyday tasks and his frustration with self-prioritization. Don't miss this raw, honest discussion – we want to hear your thoughts!
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Mar 3, 2025 • 54min
Trauma, Personal Growth & Normalizing Pain | #076
Michael opens up about his journey with Adderall and its impact on his mental health. A candid conversation reveals the pain of reconnecting with old memories, including the loss of loved ones. The duo discusses the insightful fable of the monkey and the fish to highlight the dangers of codependence. They dive into topics like guilt, grief, and the importance of self-preservation. With humor and vulnerability, the conversation normalizes trauma and explores the complexities of personal growth.

Feb 24, 2025 • 55min
Why Are Relationships So Hard? | #075
Lou and Michael reflect on a powerful voicemail they received about the aftermath of breakups and the grief that follows. Lou opens up about a past relationship where an ultimatum changed everything for him. The conversation shifts to a meaningful DM asking how women can better support the men in their lives—something Lou and Michael feel strongly about, as they've always connected more with women than men. They also dive into their thoughts on marriage—should it be viewed as a legal contract or something deeper? Lou gets raw and vulnerable to close out this emotionally charged episode. Listen to this episode for insights on:Navigating breakup grief and healing
How women can show support to men
Thoughts on marriage and its true meaning
Vulnerability and emotional honesty in relationship
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Cover Art Design: Louie Paoletti
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Feb 17, 2025 • 1h 8min
There’s a 12-Step Program for That | #074
Comedian and all-around good human, Ken Garr, joins the pod today. Ken discusses his history of being a black-out drunk alcoholic, with some stories that will make you think; before sharing his journey to being 8 years sober. He reflects on his addiction to toxic relationships and what he's learned through his 12-step program dealing with codependency.
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Feb 10, 2025 • 49min
I Don’t Trust Myself and I Have Anxiety (No I Don’t) | #073
Michael dives deep into his denial about anxiety and the fear of missing something, only to realize he’s been missing more than he thought. He opens up about the emotional impact of losing his mother and how it’s left him without a safety net. Michael also reflects on his tendency to quit things out of frustration and his hesitation to ask for help. As he lets go of his dreams of fame, he’s left searching for a new dream. Meanwhile, Lou explores his own fantasies and questions their true meaning, all while navigating the complexities of multiple truths.
#Anxiety #MentalHealth #SelfDiscovery #NewPurpose #LifeStruggles #FameDreams #PersonalGrowth #SelfReflection #EmotionalHealing #MultipleTruths #SpotifyPodcast
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