

Holy Heretics: Losing Religion and Finding Jesus
The Sophia Society
Holy Heretics seeks to foster honest conversations about the state of religion in the 21st century. We interview experts, spiritual seekers, scholars, and activists in our quest to examine just exactly how modern-day Christianity lost the Way of Jesus while also discovering how it can be regained through subversive thought and action.
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Jul 20, 2021 • 55min
Ep. 28: “Don’t Hurt the Witness of the Church” w/ That Loud Deconstructing One (Julia)
If you’ve ever been told not to speak up so you don’t “hurt the witness of the Church,” or if you’ve been discouraged from calling out toxic behavior because Christians are supposed to “bring light and joy and not negativity,” this episode is for you. After years of devoting herself to serving her church, Julia, aka @ThatLoudDeconstructingOne, finally decided she wouldn’t be silenced anymore. We talk with her about what started her deconstruction, why she's finally proud to be loud, and how she started her platform in order reclaim her voice to advocate for victims of abuse.Follow Julia on Instagram (@ThatLoudDeconstructingOne), on Twitter (@ThatLoudDecon1), and on TikTok (@ThatLoudDeconstructing1)!If you enjoyed this episode, please leave us a rating and a review 🙏For show notes, click here or go to www.holyheretics.org.Follow us on social media! Twitter: @holyheretics | Instagram: @holyhereticspodcast | Facebook: @holyhereticsAdvertising inquiries: podcast@sophiasociety.orgSupport our work on Patreon and get early access to episodes! https://www.patreon.com/holyhereticsThis episode was produced by The Sophia Society. Music is by Faith in Foxholes, and sound engineering is by Joshua Mudge (currently accepting new clients: josh.mudge09@gmail.com).

Jul 13, 2021 • 51min
Ep. 27: Is God in Control? w/ Dr. Thomas Oord
“God’s got this!” “Let go and let God.” “Everything will be okay in the end.” Despite being great bumper stickers, these sayings actually cause more theological problems than they solve. Today we’re chatting with Dr. Thomas Jay Oord, an open and relational theologian, about what God can and can’t do, what God does and does not know, and how we may have gotten God’s nature wrong for centuries.Follow Dr. Oord on Instagram and on Twitter (@ThomasJayOord) and check out his new book, Open and Relational Theology: An Introduction to Life-Changing Ideas!If you enjoyed this episode, please leave us a rating and a review 🙏For show notes, click here or go to www.holyheretics.org.Follow us on social media! Twitter: @holyheretics | Instagram: @holyhereticspodcast | Facebook: @holyhereticsAdvertising inquiries: podcast@sophiasociety.orgSupport our work on Patreon and get early access to episodes! https://www.patreon.com/holyhereticsThis episode was produced by The Sophia Society. Music is by Faith in Foxholes, and sound engineering is by Joshua Mudge (currently accepting new clients: josh.mudge09@gmail.com).

Jul 6, 2021 • 54min
Ep. 26: Rejecting Patriarchy, Finding Deeper Faith w/ Kelly Lamb
Women of the Christian faith eventually have to confront one really big question: Why stay in a system that actively works to silence women and keep them from following their callings? For today’s guest, Kelly Lamb, that question led her on a quest for the essence of faith. We talk with her about what she found, how her faith is different, and how she’s making space for women.Follow Kelly on Instagram and on Twitter (@kellyroselamb) for updates on her podcast!If you enjoyed this episode, please leave us a rating and a review 🙏For show notes, click here or go to www.holyheretics.org.Follow us on social media! Twitter: @holyheretics | Instagram: @holyhereticspodcast | Facebook: @holyhereticsAdvertising inquiries: podcast@sophiasociety.orgSupport our work on Patreon and get early access to episodes! https://www.patreon.com/holyhereticsThis episode was produced by The Sophia Society. Music is by Faith in Foxholes, and sound engineering is by Joshua Mudge (currently accepting new clients: josh.mudge09@gmail.com).

Jun 29, 2021 • 53min
Ep. 25: Finding God in Wild Places w/ Dr. Belden C. Lane
Can God only be experienced through the Church? Or is God revealed and able to be experienced elsewhere? Dr. Belden C. Lane, professor emeritus of theological studies, believes our experience of God is too limited and has thus spent many years cultivating the spiritual discipline of solo wilderness backpacking. In our conversation with him, we discuss why we need the wilderness, how being taken to the edge physically also pushes us spiritually, why we need “dangerous” books, and his deep admiration of the desert mothers and fathers.Find Dr. Lane’s books on Amazon.If you enjoyed this episode, please leave us a rating and a review 🙏For show notes, click here or go to www.holyheretics.org.Follow us on social media! Twitter: @holyheretics | Instagram: @holyhereticspodcast | Facebook: @holyhereticsAdvertising inquiries: podcast@sophiasociety.orgSupport our work on Patreon and get early access to episodes, as well as a spot in our brand new course on the Bible! https://www.patreon.com/holyhereticsThis episode was produced by The Sophia Society. Music is by Faith in Foxholes, and sound engineering is by Joshua Mudge.

Jun 22, 2021 • 1h 31min
Ep. 24: Liberation, Belonging, & Coming Out w/ Flamy Grant & Ben Grace (Heathen Podcast)
What happens when you realize your religion does everything except foster wholeness, flourishing, and love? For Flamy Grant and Ben Grace, two of the four hosts of Heathen Podcast, it meant searching for belonging, liberation, and authenticity beyond the confines of religion. We chat with them about what they found, where they found it, and what truly unconditional community and acceptance looks like.Follow Heathen on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook (@HeathenPodcast), check out Heathen Happy Hour on YouTube, and listen to their podcast.If you enjoyed this episode, please leave us a rating and a review 🙏For show notes, click here or go to www.holyheretics.org.Follow us on social media! Twitter: @holyheretics | Instagram: @holyhereticspodcast | Facebook: @holyhereticsAdvertising inquiries: podcast@sophiasociety.orgSupport our work on Patreon and get early access to episodes, as well as a spot in our brand new course on the Bible! https://www.patreon.com/holyhereticsThis episode was produced by The Sophia Society. Music is by Faith in Foxholes, and sound engineering is by Joshua Mudge.

Jun 15, 2021 • 1h 15min
Ep. 23: Bad Religion, Shame, & Community w/ Anissa & Karyn (Heathen Podcast)
As one half of the hosting team at Heathen Podcast, Anissa Nishira and Karyn Thurston are done with shame. Despite their vastly different upbringings, they each were taught a religion of shame, conformity, and certainty. In this episode, we talk with them about how they are now on a quest to drop the shame and helps others do so, all while building a faith that’s based on love. We also touch on deconstruction, birthing justice, microaggressions, being a Black woman in predominantly white spaces, and the meaning of community. (And don’t miss next week’s episode with Flamy and Ben, the other two hosts of Heathen!)Follow Heathen on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook (@HeathenPodcast), check out Heathen Happy Hour on YouTube, and listen to their podcast: https://www.heathenpodcast.com/If you enjoyed this episode, please leave us a rating and a review 🙏For show notes, click here or go to www.holyheretics.org.Follow us on social media! Twitter: @holyheretics | Instagram: @holyhereticspodcast | Facebook: @holyhereticsAdvertising inquiries: podcast@sophiasociety.orgSupport our work on Patreon and get early access to episodes, as well as a spot in our brand new course on the Bible! https://www.patreon.com/holyhereticsThis episode was produced by The Sophia Society. Music is by Faith in Foxholes, and sound engineering is by Joshua Mudge.

Jun 8, 2021 • 56min
Ep. 22: Nourishing Your Soul with Reina Rose
Fed up with superficial religion but also feeling empty from pursuing pleasure as the highest virtue, Reina Rose (host of the Roku TV show Soul Nutrition) began searching for a new way to fill her soul. In our conversation with her, she tells us what she discovered on her journey, how she nourishes her soul, and what spirituality looks like for her today, as well as offers some tips for how to find spiritual nourishment when the Church is no longer a safe option.Follow Reina on Instagram (@reina_rose_tv), Twitter (@reinarosetv), and Facebook (@reinarosetv), and check out her show: https://reina-rose.com/show.If you enjoyed this episode, please leave us a rating and a review 🙏For show notes, click here or go to www.holyheretics.org.Follow us on social media! Twitter: @holyheretics | Instagram: @holyhereticspodcast | Facebook: @holyhereticsAdvertising inquiries: podcast@sophiasociety.orgSupport our work on Patreon and get early access to episodes, as well as a spot in our brand new course on the Bible! https://www.patreon.com/holyhereticsThis episode was produced by The Sophia Society. Music is by Faith in Foxholes, and sound engineering is by Joshua Mudge.

Jun 1, 2021 • 1h 6min
Ep. 21: Should I Stay in Church? with Dismantle Pod
If you enjoyed this episode, please leave us a rating and a review 🙏To church or not to church, that is the question—at least for those of us who no longer claim the evangelical label. And if we do decide to stay, what do we do when we disagree with things being taught or supported either by the church or by our fellow churchgoers? We sat down with Joey, the host of Dismantle Pod, to talk about why he’s chosen to not only stay in church, but even serve in many different capacities, and how he’s learned to handle differences.Check out Dismantle Pod and follow along on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook (@dismantlepod). Email Joey at dismantlepod@gmail.com.For show notes, click here or go to www.holyheretics.org.Follow us on social media! Twitter: @holyheretics | Instagram: @holyhereticspodcast | Facebook: @holyhereticsAdvertising inquiries: podcast@sophiasociety.orgSupport our work on Patreon and get early access to episodes, as well as a spot in our brand new course on the Bible! https://www.patreon.com/holyhereticsThis episode was produced by The Sophia Society. Music is by Faith in Foxholes, and sound engineering is by Joshua Mudge.

May 25, 2021 • 1h
Ep. 20: What Is the Bible? with Dr. Pete Enns
If you enjoyed this episode, please leave us a rating and a review 🙏Most of us who are raised evangelical are taught 3 things about the Bible: 1. that it’s the Word of God; 2. that it’s inerrant (i.e., without error); and 3. that a “plain and simple” reading of it contains all the truth humankind will ever need. But what if none of those things is true? What is the Bible then? How do we read it if not from a literal, inerrant framework? And what place is it supposed to have in our lives? We talk with biblical scholar, author, and host of The Bible for Normal People podcast, Dr. Pete Enns, about what the Bible is and isn’t and how there are other faithful frameworks for approaching it despite what we’ve been taught.Follow Pete on Instagram and Twitter (@peteenns). Check out his podcast, The Bible for Normal People, and find it on Instagram.For show notes, click here or go to www.holyheretics.org.Follow us on social media! Twitter: @holyheretics | Instagram: @holyhereticspodcast | Facebook: @holyhereticsAdvertising inquiries: podcast@sophiasociety.orgSupport our work on Patreon and get early access to episodes, as well as a spot in our brand new course on the Bible! https://www.patreon.com/holyhereticsThis episode was produced by The Sophia Society. Music is by Faith in Foxholes, and sound engineering is by Joshua Mudge.

May 20, 2021 • 44min
BONUS: “I Just Want Real Friends”: Finding Community Post-Deconstruction (Roundtable Discussion)
If you enjoyed this episode, please leave us a rating and a review 🙏Everyone’s experience with “deconstruction” or “leaving the faith” is different, but one thing that so many have in common is a loss of community. Whether it was by choice or by some level of excommunication, we often find ourselves in need of a new community that understands what we’ve been through and where we are in our faith. So how do you find it? We joined Joey (host of Dismantle Pod), Emily (co-host of The Postmodern Fish Podcast), Katherine (host of Uncertain Podcast), William (co-host of The Space Between UK Podcast), and Tim (host of The New Evangelicals Podcast) to have a roundtable discussion of what it’s like to lose a community and where we’ve all found new ones.Check out the show notes (below) for links to follow everyone in this episode.For show notes, click here or go to www.holyheretics.org.Follow us on social media! Twitter: @holyheretics | Instagram: @holyhereticspodcast | Facebook: @holyhereticsAdvertising inquiries: podcast@sophiasociety.orgSupport our work on Patreon and get early access to episodes! https://www.patreon.com/holyhereticsThis episode was produced by The Sophia Society. Music is by Faith in Foxholes, and sound engineering is by Joshua Mudge.


