

The Pakistan Experience
The Pakistan Experience
The Pakistan Experience is a podcast looking to tell stories about Pakistan, and Pakistanis, through the lost art of conversations.
https://www.youtube.com/c/ThePakistanExperience
Also available on Spotify, Google Podcasts and Apple Podcasts.
Hosted by Shehzad Ghias Shaikh
https://www.youtube.com/c/ThePakistanExperience
Also available on Spotify, Google Podcasts and Apple Podcasts.
Hosted by Shehzad Ghias Shaikh
Episodes
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Apr 2, 2023 • 10min
Pakistan Lost - Ep 02 - Separate Electorates ft. Syed Muzammil Shah
Pakistan Lost is a series of audio essays on history exploring the choices that were made that impacted millions of people for decades to come.
Episode 2 of the series looks the the Muslim League demand for Separate Electorates and how that has shaped politics in Pakistan.

Apr 1, 2023 • 1h 21min
Journalism, Politics and Propaganda - Azaz Syed - Masterclass on Journalisms - #TPE 262
Pakistan's premier journalist Azaz Syed comes on The Pakistan Experience for a masterclass in Journalism. This really is a must watch for anyone interested in journalism in Pakistan.
One half of the popular Talk-Shock Duo, Azaz Syed on today's episode discusses Journalism, Verifying Facts, Imran Khan's conduct, The current political crisis, Dealing with Bias, Propaganda, Fear of Threats, The Establishment and attacks on Journalists.
Azaz Syed is an Islamabad based print and electronic media journalist trainer and author.His book titling, "The Secrets of Pakistan's War On Al.Qaeda"remained the best seller in year 2015. He reports and analyses issues related to democracy, civil military relations, counter terrorism, intelligence , national security and anti corruption..
In year 2009 / 2010 he hosted the countries first ever television show titling, The Spy Master , at Dawn News in which the role of intelligence agencies and military in politics was exposed.
The Pakistan Experience is an independently produced podcast looking to tell stories about Pakistan through conversations.
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The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications.
Instagram.com/shehzadghiasshaikh
Facebook.com/Shehzadghias/
Twitter.com/shehzad89
Chapters:
0:00 intro
01:10 Haqeeqat TV, what is journalism and being a journalist
07:48 Zil e Shah’s murder & attacking the police
16:21 Gathering information, verification of facts, is objectivity impossible?, Imran Khan’s conduct
23:31 Dealing with bias & doubt, PTI’s presentation of narrative, “syllabus” of the media and towing the line of respectability
31:20 Fear of threats, staying motivated, keeping going and possibility of being manipulated
40:11 Is the Establishment doing things differently, Imran Khan still powerful, mob violence, giving people context, being used
51:09 dealing with the establishment, information gathering through personal relationships and finding the truth
1:02:53 Requests from the powerful, institutional ganging up in Pakistan, violence & Hamid Mir’s attack
1:10:59 How to fix Journalism in Pakistan and predictions for the future

Mar 30, 2023 • 1h 55min
Pakistan is suffering in the war of PTI vs PDM - Journalist - Zarrar Khurro - #TPE 261
Journalist and Host of Zara Hutt Kay on Dawn News, Zarrar Khuhro joins for an emotionally charged episode of The Pakistan Experience where we discuss how Pakistan, and common Pakistanis, are suffering in this war of PTI vs PDM.
On this episode we discuss how badly PDM has messed up, the current polarization, serial killers, the news, fascism, Imran Khan, India, Hamza Shahbaz's Darzi and the Synderverse.
Zarrar Khuhro is Journalist and the Host of Zara Hutt Kay on Dawn News.
The Pakistan Experience is an independently produced podcast looking to tell stories about Pakistan through conversations.
Please consider supporting us on Patreon:
https://www.patreon.com/thepakistanexperience
To support the channel:
Jazzcash/Easypaisa - 0325 -2982912
Patreon.com/thepakistanexperience
And Please stay in touch:
https://twitter.com/ThePakistanExp1https://www.facebook.com/thepakistanexperiencehttps://instagram.com/thepakistanexpeperience
The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications.
Instagram.com/shehzadghiasshaikh
Facebook.com/Shehzadghias/
Twitter.com/shehzad89
Chapters:
0:00 Intro
1:29 Current political climate and polarization, the way forward
8:40 ECP’s constitutional violation, is this our worst crisis ever?, the battle for survival, and is there any hope for Pakistan?
15:56 Dealing with horrors, serial killers in Pakistan, and conspiracy theories
29:51 how to verify news, whataboutism, “Quaid ki vision” and mental gymnastics
37:48 Politicians coming clean, Zardari’s mastery, PTI’s ability to connect with people and PDM’s invisible narrative
48:19 Sidiq Jan & unacceptable arrests, democratic principles, PML-N’s losing politics, going from Miftah to Dar
57:13 What if IK comes to power, centrism, the transgender bill and adopting terms from the west
1:07:02 Being on the wrong side of history, evolving nature of political correctness, Zaraar’s criticism of India
1:13:46 Zaraar’s Zara Hut Kay on Dawn
1:16:37 Q&A
1:32:40 Affleck’s Batman and the Snyderverse

Mar 29, 2023 • 11min
How Zia-ul-Haq Destroyed Pakistan - Pakistan: Between Mosque and Military by Hussain Haqqani
TPE's Book of the month was Hussain Haqqani's 'Between the Mosque and the Military' - in this video we discuss the first three chapters of the book.
Watch the first episode in this three part series:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDqAxVwTTp0
Watch the podcast with Hussain Haqqani:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1whXAXmn9A&t=0s
The Pakistan Experience is an independently produced podcast looking to tell stories about Pakistan through conversations.
Please consider supporting us on Patreon:
https://www.patreon.com/thepakistanexperience
To support the channel:
Jazzcash/Easypaisa - 0325 -2982912
Patreon.com/thepakistanexperience
And Please stay in touch:
https://twitter.com/ThePakistanExp1https://www.facebook.com/thepakistanexperiencehttps://instagram.com/thepakistanexpeperience
The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications.
Instagram.com/shehzadghiasshaikh
Facebook.com/Shehzadghias/
Twitter.com/shehzad89

Mar 28, 2023 • 2h 15min
Chief Justice, The Supreme Court and the Constitution - Barrister Salahuddin Ahmad - #TPE 260
Barrister Salahuddin Ahmad is a leading lawyer of Pakistan. He was the President of the Sindh Bar Council and frequently writes as well.
Salahuddin comes on the podcast to answer all your questions about the Law, PTI, PDM, and The Constitution. On this week's episode, we discuss the Chief Justice, Suo-Moto Powers, Bench Forming, the Shahrukh Jatoi Case, Judicial Reform, Qazi Faez Isa, 63-A and whether delaying the elections is Unconstitutional.
The Pakistan Experience is an independently produced podcast looking to tell stories about Pakistan through conversations.
Please consider supporting us on Patreon:
https://www.patreon.com/thepakistanexperience
To support the channel:
Jazzcash/Easypaisa - 0325 -2982912
Patreon.com/thepakistanexperience
And Please stay in touch:
https://twitter.com/ThePakistanExp1https://www.facebook.com/thepakistanexperiencehttps://instagram.com/thepakistanexpeperience
The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications.
Instagram.com/shehzadghiasshaikh
Facebook.com/Shehzadghias/
Twitter.com/shehzad89
Chapters
0:00 Intro
01:21 Election delay and CJ’s impact in the elections
10:05 63-A, Politicians and Courts
24:59 Suo Moto and CJ’s role in Pakistan, CJ’s picking & choosing
36:29 Nazim Jokhio & Shahrukh Jatoi, silly Suo Motos, Iftikhar Chaudhry & the lawyers movement
44:17 Judges & the establishment and credibility of the courts
57:57 “Sadiq aur Ameen”, special treatment of Imran, Zaman Park & Nasla Tower
1:10:08 PML-N & PPP, Bahria Town, seniority principle & elevation, and the difficulty for women in law
1:29:08 possibility of parliamentary oversight, Qazi Faez Isa, his judgement against ISI
1:41:32 Audience Questions

Mar 25, 2023 • 12min
Between the Mosque and the Military - Hussain Haqqani - TPE Book Review
TPE's Book of the month was Hussain Haqqani's 'Between the Mosque and the Military' - in this video we discuss the first three chapters of the book.
Watch the podcast with Hussain Haqqani:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1whXAXmn9A&t=0s
The Pakistan Experience is an independently produced podcast looking to tell stories about Pakistan through conversations.
Please consider supporting us on Patreon:
https://www.patreon.com/thepakistanexperience
To support the channel:
Jazzcash/Easypaisa - 0325 -2982912
Patreon.com/thepakistanexperience
And Please stay in touch:
https://twitter.com/ThePakistanExp1https://www.facebook.com/thepakistanexperiencehttps://instagram.com/thepakistanexpeperience
The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications.
Instagram.com/shehzadghiasshaikh
Facebook.com/Shehzadghias/
Twitter.com/shehzad89

Mar 24, 2023 • 2h 3min
Can PML-N save the Economy and save Pakistan? - Zubair Umar on Elections and Fascism - #TPE 259
Zubair Omar is the Former Governor of Sindh, he has also served as the Chairman of Privatisation Commission of Pakistan and is currently the Chief Spokesperson for PML-N's Maryam Nawaz.
Zubair Omar comes on the podcast to discuss the Economy, Ishaq Dar, Reimagining Pakistan, Imran Khan, PTI's Politics, Establishment, Narrative Building and Audio leaks.
Did Zubair Omar meet General Bajwa?
Does PML-N want Elections?
Has PML-N abandoned Vote ko Izzat Do?
Find out this and more on this week's episode of The Pakistan Experience.
There was a glitch in the podcast render which is why for the first 16 minutes the camera is just on Zubair Omar. Apologies for that. It is fine after that.
The Pakistan Experience is an independently produced podcast looking to tell stories about Pakistan through conversations.
Please consider supporting us on Patreon:
https://www.patreon.com/thepakistanexperience
To support the channel:
Jazzcash/Easypaisa - 0325 -2982912
Patreon.com/thepakistanexperience
And Please stay in touch:
https://twitter.com/ThePakistanExp1https://www.facebook.com/thepakistanexperiencehttps://instagram.com/thepakistanexpeperience
The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications.
Instagram.com/shehzadghiasshaikh
Facebook.com/Shehzadghias/
Twitter.com/shehzad89
Chapters:
0:00 intro
1:02 Economic Policy & Ishaq Dar
12:04 Military Interference & vote ko izzat do
23:55 VoNC, establishment’s love affair with Imran Khan
30:42 Military’s role in history, General Umar and his role in 1971
40:50 Mockery of justice & political arrests, writ of the state, populism & fascism, and model town
51:40 Zaman Park, TLP, respect for police and courts, ZA Bhutto’s death
1:04:12 Standing up for your workers, narrative building and matching PTI’s social prowess, and why Dar replaced Miftah
1:22:25 If not Imran, then who?, realization for the need for change, our relationship with India and our neighbors
1:33:04 Audio Leaks, allegations and mud slinging
1:39:30 Why Zubair Umar joined politics & his journey
1:42:08 the role of governor and issues with Karachi
1:46:14 Audience Questions

Mar 23, 2023 • 18min
Pakistan Lost - Episode 1 - The Lahore Resolution vs The Pakistan Resolution debate
Pakistan Lost is a series of audio essays on history exploring the choices that were made that impacted millions of people for decades to come.
The first episode of the series explores the changing of the text of the Lahore Resolution and how that impacted the entire idea of Pakistan for decades to come.
The Pakistan Experience is an independently produced podcast looking to tell stories about Pakistan through conversations.
Please consider supporting us on Patreon:
https://www.patreon.com/thepakistanexperience
To support the channel:
Jazzcash/Easypaisa - 0325 -2982912
Patreon.com/thepakistanexperience
And Please stay in touch:
https://twitter.com/ThePakistanExp1https://www.facebook.com/thepakistanexperiencehttps://instagram.com/thepakistanexpeperience
The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications.
Instagram.com/shehzadghiasshaikh
Facebook.com/Shehzadghias/
Twitter.com/shehzad89

Mar 23, 2023 • 43min
Do I support PML-N or PPP? If not Imran Khan then who? And The problem with PTI's Narrative - #ASK10
A new series where I answer ten questions from the audience. This week I answer:
1. Are you biased
2. Are you a Patwari or a Jiyala?
3. Why are you not as hard on other parties?
4. Why dont you support Imran Khan?
5. Imran Khan is not great but he is better
6. Imran Khan is standing up to the Establishment
7. Who should we vote for?
8. Pakistan se sab se bara masla kya hay
9.Is say kaisay larayn
10. Should we leave Pakistan?
If you have any questions, write them in the comments or email us at thepakistanexperience@gmail.com with ASK10 in the Subject Line.
The Pakistan Experience is an independently produced podcast looking to tell stories about Pakistan through conversations.
Please consider supporting us on Patreon:
https://www.patreon.com/thepakistanexperience
To support the channel:
Jazzcash/Easypaisa - 0325 -2982912
Patreon.com/thepakistanexperience
And Please stay in touch:
https://twitter.com/ThePakistanExp1https://www.facebook.com/thepakistanexperiencehttps://instagram.com/thepakistanexpeperience
The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications.
Instagram.com/shehzadghiasshaikh
Facebook.com/Shehzadghias/
Twitter.com/shehzad89Chapters:0:00 Are you Biased?

Mar 22, 2023 • 2h 43min
The History of Pakistan after Partition and the Creation of Imran Khan - Muzamil Shah - #TPE 258
Anchor, Journalist and Thinker, Syed Muzammil Shah, comes back o the podcast for a detailed overview of PTI and Imran Khan's politics; we go into the history of Pakistan, comparing it with India, to see where they went right, and where we went wrong, and what can both countries learn from each other.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPTNN03y8vM
Is Imran Khan Anti-Establishment?
Why Pakistan struggled after 1947?
Does Pakistan even want good relations with India?
Find out this and more on this week's episode of The Pakistan Experience.
The Pakistan Experience is an independently produced podcast looking to tell stories about Pakistan through conversations.
Please consider supporting us on Patreon:
https://www.patreon.com/thepakistanexperience
To support the channel:
Jazzcash/Easypaisa - 0325 -2982912
Patreon.com/thepakistanexperience
And Please stay in touch:
https://twitter.com/ThePakistanExp1https://www.facebook.com/thepakistanexperiencehttps://instagram.com/thepakistanexpeperience
The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications.
Instagram.com/shehzadghiasshaikh
Facebook.com/Shehzadghias/
Twitter.com/shehzad89
Chapters:
0:00 Intro
01:11 Muzammil joining Bol and Imran Khan's narrative building
13:50 Establishment’s mistakes and loss of power
23:57 Supporting PDM vs Supporting PTI
28:47 PDM’s operation against PTI and Anti-Establishment Politics
37:41 Imran Khan’s health and Democracy
44:50 How Pakistan began
54:00 Military’s role, separate electorates, Pakistan’s relationship with Religion
1:04:04 US Aid & Ayub Khan, Musharaf’s fake secularism, and the 1965 war
1:13:42 Relations with our neighbors and India and Abhinandan
1:20:32 The COAS position, Pakistan’s declining geopolitical status and our inability to compete economically
1:28:35 Moral stances, conflicts of interest and things India has done right
1:39:53 Pakistan’s identity crisis a real issue?, are economic issues the root of all problems
1:49:09 The TTP and the Establishment
1:58:50 18th amendment, a step back in 2018 and the suffering of Pakistan’s politicians, and university politics
2:08:40 Urdu as a national language and the Pakistani identity and cricket with India, the dream of an open border, secularism and identity politics
2:24:35 IK’s stance on Covid and his savior complex
2:40:56 Summarizing what we need to learn


